April 2014 Moms

UO: Unpopular Opinion

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  • homediva said:


    Xxooxtina said:

     I also disagree with ppl giving their kids sugar before the age of 2 or 3. It is SO unnecesary. My SIL used to give her daughter brown sugar in her milk bottle as a baby. Claimed it was all natural anyways. SMH.

    I used to think I was against giving toddlers sugar too. That was before I had one. I'm not saying I would put sugar in a baby's milk (that sounds a little cray cray), but once you hit the first birthday party and all the other kids are taking bites of cupcakes, I wasn't about to whip a carob-flax muffin out of my purse. Now I say, all things in moderation. We got to age 1 without sugar.


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  • Thanks flom0036 for clarifying. It does make it difficult when "everyone" is doing it for restaurants to take the people who actually need their diet that way seriously. I went to a restaurant and asked the waiter to ask some questions to the the kitchen staff and he said he usually doesn't bother because most the people who are trying to order gluten free don't actually need it that way! On the other hand the boom in popularity has helped us out with all the products on the market.
  • homediva said:


    Xxooxtina said:

     I also disagree with ppl giving their kids sugar before the age of 2 or 3. It is SO unnecesary. My SIL used to give her daughter brown sugar in her milk bottle as a baby. Claimed it was all natural anyways. SMH.

    I used to think I was against giving toddlers sugar too. That was before I had one. I'm not saying I would put sugar in a baby's milk (that sounds a little cray cray), but once you hit the first birthday party and all the other kids are taking bites of cupcakes, I wasn't about to whip a carob-flax muffin out of my purse. Now I say, all things in moderation. We got to age 1 without sugar.


    Age 1 without sugar here too. With DS I did make a Greek yogurt smash cake instead of a traditional cake. I didn't with DD though (second child syndrome?) so she did experience full blown sugar. I still refuse to give her cake or ice cream now though. My DS is 3 and he can have those things occasionally but I regularly fight with my ILs about giving him so much sugar. At family gatherings there are kids running around with Mountain Dew in their bottles and they think I'm the worst person ever because I won't let them give my 15 month old 2 scoops of ice cream and a brownie.



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    edited August 2013
    homediva said:


    Xxooxtina said:

     I also disagree with ppl giving their kids sugar before the age of 2 or 3. It is SO unnecesary. My SIL used to give her daughter brown sugar in her milk bottle as a baby. Claimed it was all natural anyways. SMH.

    I used to think I was against giving toddlers sugar too. That was before I had one. I'm not saying I would put sugar in a baby's milk (that sounds a little cray cray), but once you hit the first birthday party and all the other kids are taking bites of cupcakes, I wasn't about to whip a carob-flax muffin out of my purse. Now I say, all things in moderation. We got to age 1 without sugar.


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    Same - DD's cake at her birthday party was her first sugar, but now, at 18 mo, she gets treats in moderation. Not to say she eats desserts and junk every day or even every week, but if we go out for froyo, she gets some too or if we're at a party, she can have a few bites of dessert. I think making certain foods "bad" or "off limits," is much more detrimental to future healthy eating habits than allowing some "junk" in moderation.
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  • VABride2008VABride2008 member
    edited August 2013
    playingonadream said: VABride2008 said: When did painting a room pink or blue become such a controversy?  Who gives a flying fuck?  You think because you're pushing barbies and pink sparkles down your son's throat that he will be a better person?  Or different?  My son had a blue room, he wears pink clips in his hair, he plays with trucks and dolls and baby strollers.  The color of his room does not define him.  The same goes for my daughter, she had a pink room, likes dresses and barbie's but she also likes to play in the dirt (aka pixie dust) and hates having her hair played with.  I wear pink and blue and green and yellow.  My husband wears pink and blue and green and yellow. 
    Also, we're going team green this time.  We have one of each, we found out the sex at the 20 week US with each of them, we painted their rooms and got "gender" specific clothing and had a pink baby shower.  Will it change my birth that I'm going team green?  Probably not.  Will it be exciting to hear my husband say "IT'S A..." after waiting 40 weeks?  I seem to think so.  
    I just really don't get why people get so hung up on the choices other people make (especially on things so minute as finding out the sex of your baby or what color clothes they wear).  /rant 

    Completely unrelated to the actual content of the post. (I agree with you BTW) How on earth did you get your husband to wear pink? Mine wouldn't even wear a pink striped tie for our rehearsal dinner.


    Haha, he just doesn't care.  He has a pink polo and pink boxers (which I think are
    so sexy!). He's a manly man/nerd but he doesn't let a color define him.  I really think it's more about how you raise your kids than how you dress them or the color room they sleep in.
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  • I laugh when FTM say they will never do something. I was the best mom before I had kids.
    Lol!  Me too!  And I stuck to my guns pretty good with my first one.  She didn't even get to taste cake until her first birthday.  Then I realized I might be going a tad overboard. 
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  • I laugh when FTM say they will never do something. I was the best mom before I had kids.

    Lol!  Me too!  And I stuck to my guns pretty good with my first one.  She didn't even get to taste cake until her first birthday.  Then I realized I might be going a tad overboard. 


    Me too! I waited til his birthday but he ended up being sick and didn't even want to eat it!

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  • amhah09 said:
    Soy is awful for you. If you drink milk raw (goats or cow, we have both) the health benefits are incredible and even lactose intolerant people don't react terribly.

    Actually new studies have been done that show soy can help prevent breast cancer and is better for you than almond milk. Its just that so many things are supposed to be good for you and then become awful for you and then years later become better again. I'm tired of following the yo-yo.
    Interesting!! The last I read was that soy is terrible for women. I was reading that more in the context of soy protein, though. I try to stick to almond and coconut milk here. My DS won't drink the stuff though so I do give him organic cows milk. My DH doesn't really drink milk at all.

    Soy and wheat are so terribly modified, that their whole genetic composition has changed. That's why it's bad for you. If you can find organic soy and wheat, usually people don't have issues. I'm not totally organic, but I do what I can. I had duck eggs for breakfast, and a McDouble for lunch yesterday. I do need to be healthier, but right now, I'm just trying not to feel like crap.
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  • Enami said:


    amhah09 said:



    Soy is awful for you. If you drink milk raw (goats or cow, we have both) the health benefits are incredible and even lactose intolerant people don't react terribly.


    Actually new studies have been done that show soy can help prevent breast cancer and is better for you than almond milk. Its just that so many things are supposed to be good for you and then become awful for you and then years later become better again. I'm tired of following the yo-yo.
    Interesting!! The last I read was that soy is terrible for women. I was reading that more in the context of soy protein, though. I try to stick to almond and coconut milk here. My DS won't drink the stuff though so I do give him organic cows milk. My DH doesn't really drink milk at all.



    Soy and wheat are so terribly modified, that their whole genetic composition has changed. That's why it's bad for you. If you can find organic soy and wheat, usually people don't have issues. I'm not totally organic, but I do what I can. I had duck eggs for breakfast, and a McDouble for lunch yesterday. I do need to be healthier, but right now, I'm just trying not to feel like crap.

    I agree with you. I was doing pretty well with healthy eating until the morning sickness hit. Now I just do what I can to get through this funk and hopefully when I feel better I can resume my healthy eating!



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  • I'm a Christian and in professing that,I'm not saying I'm perfect or I'm Jesus it's a way of life. I don't judge others on decisions they make or find it ok for any other Christian to say what's right or wrong. I'm saying that for the pro lifers that are saying they're pro life because of their religion. You are not God nor do you have any right to judge what one does with their body, that's between them and God.
  • Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.
  • steph1977 said:
    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

    I think most of the people commenting here are wearing their big girl panties and enjoying themselves. No one has been rude or uppity that I can tell, and even if they are, so what? It's an anonymous message board and its kind of part of the thread.
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  • steph 1977, maybe you shouldn't read the UO thread if it causes you undue stress. 
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  • PuggleMama520PuggleMama520 member
    edited August 2013
    I hated UO (and thought it was some nothing better to do b*tch's idea of a good time) at first since its sole purpose seems to be pitting a bunch of hormonal women against each other...

    But our opinions are what make each of us unique, and no one can get mad about that. How boring would life be if everyone always had the same opinions?!

    With that said I LOVE the bachelor/ette, is it real? Probably not, but it makes damn good television IMUO!
  • @pugglemama520 at least im not the only one who likes bachelor(ette) its good tv lol

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  • steph1977 said:

    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

    Huh?
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  • @Steph1977 the point of this thread is to debate respectfully about silly or important things. While in the past the things said can get pointed and nasty the thread today in my opinion has been awesome! Everyone is treating people pretty well but there is enough debate to keep it fun. If it bothers you, you don't have to participate! I for one can't wait for the circumcision debate!! >:/ :D
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  • maelic said:

    steph 1977, maybe you shouldn't read the UO thread if it causes you undue stress. 

    I'm not at all stressed, but thanks for thinking of me. I just think that our time could be much better spent, but to each his own.
  • Ugh, late to the UO thread. Apparently it's hard to Bump with an 11-month old running around. My biggest issue is probably on the pro-life/pro-choice argument.

    I am personally pro-life for myself because I can't imagine a situation in my own life where I would choose to abort a baby, especially after having been pregnant and having a child prior to this pregnancy. However, I don't judge people who have their own personal circumstances in their life and I think it's their decision to make.

    My UO is that I really hate when women say it's their body so their choice and have complete disregard for the father. I wish there was a way to require a father's consent to abort, which is obviously impossible since you cannot prove who the father is in advance. I get that a woman has to carry the child, but if the father wants to raise the child, then they should have some say. Just because I am carrying this baby does not make it any more my child than my husband's child.

    My 2nd UO for this topic: We really need better sex education in school, and it needs to be done earlier. We did real sex-ed in 10th grade, and there are teens getting pregnant well before that. I have talked to so many high school girls who legitimately think they can't get pregnant if they're on top, on their period, they do it in the shower, etc. because that is what they have heard. And don't even get me started on STDs...AND getting the HPV shot will not make your teenage girl a slut.

  • steph1977 said:

    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

    How cute there is always one. Your way sounds way too boring. I think I prefer to spend time arguing in a UO thread than rubbing my nonexistent belly.

    I apologize for boring you with my cute rants. You can choose to spend your time however you'd like. Have a great 9 months ;)
  • steph1977 said:

    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

    Are you serious? All I see here is healthy conversation and debate. People like you need to take your own advice. If you don't want to participate then move your happy ass to another thread. There's more to talk about in life than swollen feet and morning sickness.



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  • And for the other topics:

    1. I agree that cow's milk is intended for baby cows, but can't we agree that there are a lot of things that we eat that weren't intended for us to eat? Twinkies perhaps? At least cow's milk is natural.

    2. We will not be team green, but mostly because I won't be able to come up with a name without knowing the gender in advance. I am super indecisive and need to start talking about it with DH well before 40 weeks.

    3. We don't want to spank our children, but I realize that different forms of discipline are effective for different types of children. I don't think being a SAHM has anything to do with it, because I can assure you that they are disciplining your kids at daycare just fine without hitting them.

    4.I'm not really into the Bachelor/Bachelorette since like the 5th season, but I'm totally hooked on Teen Mom.

  • thomas930 said:


    steph1977 said:

    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

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    You must be new around here...this is nothing. 
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    amhah09 said:

    steph1977 said:

    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

    Are you serious? All I see here is healthy conversation and debate. People like you need to take your own advice. If you don't want to participate then move your happy ass to another thread. There's more to talk about in life than swollen feet and morning
    sickness.
    Yup, I'm serious. To me it seemed pretty heated, but perhaps I read into it a bit too much. Enjoy your debate - this "happy ass" is moving on.

  • I had a person I went to high school with recently state that atheists, and I am one, should be sterilized. "A godless child is not a child" he said. I promptly unfriended him.
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  • I also think that everybody should at least "consider" cloth diapering their child. I think there is a lack of education on the advancements in CD's, and I think people don't realize all of the negative things about disposables, such as:

    1. 27.4 BILLION diapers fill up our landfills each year and they take about 500 years to decompose. Over 300lbs of wood are used to manufacture disposables for each baby annually.

    2. Disposable diapers contain dioxin, a carcinogen listed by the EPA as the most toxic of cancer causing chemicals. They also contain Sodium Polyacrylate, a chemical that was banned from tampons in 1985 due to its link to Toxic Shock Syndrome.

    I never really thought about #1 when we had DS and I never would have fathomed #2. Just thought that I would share with all of the other moms who maybe don't know much about using cloth, because I certainly wish I would have known more.

    That being said, I totally get if people choose to use disposables over cloth, and there are plenty of reasons that legitimately make sense to me. I don't judge moms who don't CD, but I just wish that everybody would at least look into it for their situation.

  • I had a person I went to high school with recently state that atheists, and I am one, should be sterilized. "A godless child is not a child" he said. I promptly unfriended him.

    I would have hunted him down and punched him in the face. When DH and I got engaged, my bat-shit crazy MIL asked me if I was saved (like, this was the very first thing she said). As I was not comfortable discussing my spirituality with my MIL, I just answered no. She said I needed to get saved so she could be with any future grand babies she might have up in heaven when the rapture came. I was speechless, then she asked me if I worshipped "Zeus, trees, or any of that crazy shit". Where is this a good conversation? We are a mixed religious household, and our son and none of children are having infant baptisms/initiations into any religion. We are just now talking about introducing our almost 2yo to religion, but have made no decisions yet.
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  • Enami said:
    I had a person I went to high school with recently state that atheists, and I am one, should be sterilized. "A godless child is not a child" he said. I promptly unfriended him.

    I would have hunted him down and punched him in the face. When DH and I got engaged, my bat-shit crazy MIL asked me if I was saved (like, this was the very first thing she said). As I was not comfortable discussing my spirituality with my MIL, I just answered no. She said I needed to get saved so she could be with any future grand babies she might have up in heaven when the rapture came. I was speechless, then she asked me if I worshipped "Zeus, trees, or any of that crazy shit". Where is this a good conversation? We are a mixed religious household, and our son and none of children are having infant baptisms/initiations into any religion. We are just now talking about introducing our almost 2yo to religion, but have made no decisions yet.

    No way!! I would have freaked!! Poor you.
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  • EnamiEnami member
    edited August 2013
    @kbuckleyharp Its no big deal, she's a wench and I'm currently not speaking with her. She, and my dads Mormon friends, inspired me to create my own religious literature to hand out to idiot people about how easy it is to have a mixed religious household.
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  • I could not agree more!
  • I could not agree more!

    .....with everyone? Lol



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  • steph1977 said:
    Really, ladies? Is this how you want to spend the majority of our time together? Lets all just take a deep breath, put our feet up, and rub our bellies. Be thankful that you're still a part of this group; as we all know, ladies are disappearing from this board every day. No matter if you're pro-spanking, team green or a raging liberal, we're all about to become parents. So...put on your big girl panties and get over yourselves, please. Make your future son or daughter proud.

    I find this conversation extremely interesting and quite civilized :-)
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  • I also think that everybody should at least "consider" cloth diapering their child. I think there is a lack of education on the advancements in CD's, and I think people don't realize all of the negative things about disposables, such as:

    1. 27.4 BILLION diapers fill up our landfills each year and they take about 500 years to decompose. Over 300lbs of wood are used to manufacture disposables for each baby annually.

    2. Disposable diapers contain dioxin, a carcinogen listed by the EPA as the most toxic of cancer causing chemicals. They also contain Sodium Polyacrylate, a chemical that was banned from tampons in 1985 due to its link to Toxic Shock Syndrome.

    I never really thought about #1 when we had DS and I never would have fathomed #2. Just thought that I would share with all of the other moms who maybe don't know much about using cloth, because I certainly wish I would have known more.

    That being said, I totally get if people choose to use disposables over cloth, and there are plenty of reasons that legitimately make sense to me. I don't judge moms who don't CD, but I just wish that everybody would at least look into it for their situation.

    I started CD'ing my son at 4 months and I'll never go back!! It's almost an addiction and I can't wait to start CD'ing a newborn. I try to educate new moms as often as I can. Unfortunately my working mom friends don't think they can do it because of time. I work full time but still manage to keep up with the laundry.

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  • edited August 2013

    I guess I'll chime in on this thread.

    1) I'm Pro-choice and pro death penalty.

    2) I feed my child all organic dairy products (no milk though, he drinks almond milk) and produce and to this day he's never had chocolate or really any sugar. I did make him a cake for his 1st birthday and he wanted nothing to do with it. I also made his food when he was eating purees. He has never had anything to drink but water or milk and he won't for several more years if I can control it. My husband's side of the family thinks I'm mean, but they're the ones with overweight children, not me.

    3) I'm pro-spanking but have yet to spank my child. I was spanked as a child and think I turned out ok.

    4) Someone mentioned dressing twins up and giving them similar names. I'm an identical twin and my mom dressed us the same until we were 7, we actually enjoyed it. And our names are Christina and Casandra, so not entirely alike. I did go to school with 2 sets of identical twins. Their names were Gina and Tina and Myesha and Nyesha!!

    5) My older sister who is now 38 has ADD. She was diagnosed at age 13. It made a HUGE difference in regards to her education. She was able to focus and finally get good grades and her attitude really changed at home once she was put on medication. She now has 2 kids of her own and her daughter was diagnosed with ADHD. However, I feel her issues have everything to do with poor parenting than anything else. So I do feel ADD and ADHD are true disorders, but I feel the diagnosis is handed out all too frequently without thorough evaluation of the child.

    6) I cloth diaper full time and try to educate new moms as often as possible.

     

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