So...ok...at the risk of alienating myself from my best Internet friends, I have some thoughts about this:
1. I am kind of troubled at everyone's flippant reaction to call CPS. Granted, I don't know anything about these posters or any history they have with their fellow BMBers, and yes the OP's friend sounds a bit irresponsible, but CPS shouldn't be a knee-jerk or first response to a problem like this. I have worked in social work, and I know firsthand that social workers are stretched incredibly thin as it is. Diverting their time to someone who may only be a recreational pot smoker is doing a grave disservice to the children who may actually benefit from legal intervention. My first reaction to what the OP is going through would be to actually talk to my friend and discern whether or not an actual problem exists. Involving CPS, even if all parties are deemed innocent, can cost the accused thousands of dollars, inflict unnecessary trauma on the parents and child, and will tie up valuable social worker hours in something that could have been avoided with a simple conversation; so this course of action should be reserved for serious situations or as the last in many steps toward helping the child.
2. The person who claims that her parents were constantly high on marijuana and therefore forgot to feed their children grew up in an anomalous environment. Most people who smoke marijuana -- even if they do so habitually -- are not completely useless like that. Her parents were bad parents because they were bad parents -- Not because they smoked weed.
3. People who underestimate the dangers of prescription medication are fooling themselves. Also, I was prescribed codeine for my vaginal birth -- Narcotic pain killers aren't just for C-section births.
4. Any of the people on that board who say they don't drink or use OTC drugs around their children are either lying, haven't had any children yet, or are teetotalers.
I am not coming to the defense of someone who left her child with a friend to run off with friends, but I am disturbed by the number of people rallying for the OP to call CPS.
I actually agree with many of your points. No, I don't think she needed to call CPS right off the bat--it did strike me as a red flag that her friend felt she was so intoxicated that she couldn't drive. At that point I'd probably offer to keep the baby, especially knowing that CPS has been called on her before.
To your second point, I completely agree. My mom was a pothead for much of my life, but during those years I was always fed, clothed and safe. She was actually very high functioning. Which also goes into your third point. My mom was prescribed prescription vicodin after a heart attack when she was 34--she never got off of it, even up until her death at 47. Painkillers can be highly addictive! I think people were just trying to say that comparing them to pot or other illegal substances is apples to oranges, KWIM?
Yea, I read through it but couldn't figure out what happened the first time CPS was called. Maybe I overlooked it??
@BettyandCo, that's crazy...my mom smoked pot for most of my life, too. I come to the defense of pot smokers only after many years of battling a dialogue crafted by D.A.R.E. programs that pot smokers are worthless and don't love their children. That perception of people who smoke pot really negatively affected my life, way more than the pot smoking itself. I know that pot smokers can be pieces of shit (just like anybody), but most of them are just normal people, so I hate to see people condemned on that basis alone. I know that my mom gave me a wonderful life and never ever forgot to care for me, marijuana or no.
That being said, I think the OP's friend needs to be talked to for sure. I should probably follow O13 more, they seem super fun ;-)
@ThisisBrea, I just need to get this off my chest -- Your siggy pic gets me every time. Holy shit, Ev is adorable. I love that facial expression in the picture on the right.
Re: Lol Oct. 13
1. I am kind of troubled at everyone's flippant reaction to call CPS. Granted, I don't know anything about these posters or any history they have with their fellow BMBers, and yes the OP's friend sounds a bit irresponsible, but CPS shouldn't be a knee-jerk or first response to a problem like this. I have worked in social work, and I know firsthand that social workers are stretched incredibly thin as it is. Diverting their time to someone who may only be a recreational pot smoker is doing a grave disservice to the children who may actually benefit from legal intervention. My first reaction to what the OP is going through would be to actually talk to my friend and discern whether or not an actual problem exists. Involving CPS, even if all parties are deemed innocent, can cost the accused thousands of dollars, inflict unnecessary trauma on the parents and child, and will tie up valuable social worker hours in something that could have been avoided with a simple conversation; so this course of action should be reserved for serious situations or as the last in many steps toward helping the child.
2. The person who claims that her parents were constantly high on marijuana and therefore forgot to feed their children grew up in an anomalous environment. Most people who smoke marijuana -- even if they do so habitually -- are not completely useless like that. Her parents were bad parents because they were bad parents -- Not because they smoked weed.
3. People who underestimate the dangers of prescription medication are fooling themselves. Also, I was prescribed codeine for my vaginal birth -- Narcotic pain killers aren't just for C-section births.
4. Any of the people on that board who say they don't drink or use OTC drugs around their children are either lying, haven't had any children yet, or are teetotalers.
I am not coming to the defense of someone who left her child with a friend to run off with friends, but I am disturbed by the number of people rallying for the OP to call CPS.
I actually agree with many of your points. No, I don't think she needed to call CPS right off the bat--it did strike me as a red flag that her friend felt she was so intoxicated that she couldn't drive. At that point I'd probably offer to keep the baby, especially knowing that CPS has been called on her before.
To your second point, I completely agree. My mom was a pothead for much of my life, but during those years I was always fed, clothed and safe. She was actually very high functioning. Which also goes into your third point. My mom was prescribed prescription vicodin after a heart attack when she was 34--she never got off of it, even up until her death at 47. Painkillers can be highly addictive! I think people were just trying to say that comparing them to pot or other illegal substances is apples to oranges, KWIM?
And what is a teetotaler? LOL.
@BettyandCo, that's crazy...my mom smoked pot for most of my life, too. I come to the defense of pot smokers only after many years of battling a dialogue crafted by D.A.R.E. programs that pot smokers are worthless and don't love their children. That perception of people who smoke pot really negatively affected my life, way more than the pot smoking itself. I know that pot smokers can be pieces of shit (just like anybody), but most of them are just normal people, so I hate to see people condemned on that basis alone. I know that my mom gave me a wonderful life and never ever forgot to care for me, marijuana or no.
That being said, I think the OP's friend needs to be talked to for sure. I should probably follow O13 more, they seem super fun ;-)
That is definitely not me.