I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
What is wrong with those things? I don't understand. Do you really think your INFANT is going to realize how much math sucks just because they wore a onesie that said I hate math? (PS- math does suck!)
I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
I don't have friends who would buy those onsies but I don't really care. Wouldn't be my pick but whatever. But whoever brought up the two piece swimsuit thing - you try taking four little girls to a pool or a water park in one pieces. Two pieces take at least half the time to diaper change or potty break in on a wet toddler. And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier. If my DH had ever insisted they wear only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
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And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier. If my DH had ever insisted they were only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
I don't have girls. But I'd agree with ALL this. I wear a two piece. It's not skanky looking. I don't think anyone is going to say a baby or toddler in a string bikini is ok. But a baby in a two piece that shows maybe a little tummy? Or tanking style that shows nothing at all? NBD IMO. And convenient.
Makes me think of the onesie that my BIL wanted when his son was born. It was after years of failed adoption applications and they finally found someone who was willing to be a surrogate for them. So they did an adoption/surrogacy arrangement. But BIL has a sick sense of humor to begin with. File attached.
Gotta agree with OP, I wouldn't like it either. I don't think it's about the baby's interpretation of it at all, (I mean, duh, infant and all), but just perpetuating the bad body image stereotype that women and girls have to deal with. It's a double standard that we often ignore. They certainly don't make an equivalent for a little boy baby, do they? And if they did, would we think it was funny?
I have seen it in boy colors and thought it would be cute for my boy in fact better on a boy than a girl. Then again I am the mom who didn't get the onesie from Raygun that said "Darn it feels good to be a gangster" because the line is "damn it feels good to be a gangster" and my baby will quote Officespace songs appropriately!
I hate to be one of those moms,but as the mother of an 11 and 13 yo DD's you will face way bigger issues as they grow and if you start out this closed minded it will surely be an uphill battle for you.my girls are very secure with who they are,but it starts at home,as a PP mentioned teach her to love herself and silly little sayings will not affect her. As for the 2 piece bathing suit goes all 3 of my girls wear them including 2yo DD,they are adorable and so much easier for potty time.
I wouldn't put it on my LO, but mostly bc I think there are way funnier onesies to use. Someone bought me an iPood onesie which I think is lame, but I'll just shove it in the back of the closet.
I don't have friends who would buy those onsies but I don't really care. Wouldn't be my pick but whatever.
But whoever brought up the two piece swimsuit thing - you try taking four little girls to a pool or a water park in one pieces. Two pieces take at least half the time to diaper change or potty break in on a wet toddler. And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier.
If my DH had ever insisted they wear only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
Ok, well good for you. It's still against my religion to wear two-piece swimsuits, so I don't think convenience on changing a diaper is going to change my stance on that. I find them to not follow a code of modesty that I hold for myself, and for my daughter. I don't judge other people who let their kids wear them, or even prefer them, but we will not. Simple.
I don't have friends who would buy those onsies but I don't really care. Wouldn't be my pick but whatever.
But whoever brought up the two piece swimsuit thing - you try taking four little girls to a pool or a water park in one pieces. Two pieces take at least half the time to diaper change or potty break in on a wet toddler. And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier.
If my DH had ever insisted they wear only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
Ok, well good for you. It's still against my religion to wear two-piece swimsuits, so I don't think convenience on changing a diaper is going to change my stance on that. I find them to not follow a code of modesty that I hold for myself, and for my daughter. I don't judge other people who let their kids wear them, or even prefer them, but we will not. Simple.
In a totally non snarky way I have to bring up that some two pieces actually cover more than one pieces. It isnt against our religion but because of our beliefs we hold our family to a high standars of modesty as well. DD wears a two piece that is more like tshirt and shorts and covers way more than any one piece, as do I.
Well, that would be a different story, I suppose. I'm just not ok with the bikini type suits, which is what I've been talking about. Something that's board shorts and a water shirt = completely different ball park. I'll have to look into those, since I have a 50/50 chance of having a ginger.
I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
What is wrong with those things? I don't understand. Do you really think your INFANT is going to realize how much math sucks just because they wore a onesie that said I hate math? (PS- math does suck!)
Yes, I think it is inappropriate to socialize girls into thinking that math is hard and they are expected to act like divas. Similarly, I think it is inappropriate to socialize boys to be aggressive or macho. Therefore, I do not dress my children in clothing that conflicts with my values. Clearly, the infant cannot read the shirt. But everyone else can. And I prefer not to contribute to those gender stereotypes. Judging from this thread, there is a substantial market for that kind of thing, but I'm not it.
I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
What is wrong with those things? I don't understand. Do you really think your INFANT is going to realize how much math sucks just because they wore a onesie that said I hate math? (PS- math does suck!)
Yes, I think it is inappropriate to socialize girls into thinking that math is hard and they are expected to act like divas. Similarly, I think it is inappropriate to socialize boys to be aggressive or macho. Therefore, I do not dress my children in clothing that conflicts with my values. Clearly, the infant cannot read the shirt. But everyone else can. And I prefer not to contribute to those gender stereotypes. Judging from this thread, there is a substantial market for that kind of thing, but I'm not it.
Would you let your child wear a "my aunt rocks!" Onesie? I'm really not trying to be snarky, I just am trying to understand the mindset. NO words allowed on onesies? What about I love my mom?
DH and I are total suckers for the "I love Daddy" onesies. I actually have a onesie for a coming home outfit that says "My heart belongs to Daddy". Adorable!
I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
What is wrong with those things? I don't understand. Do you really think your INFANT is going to realize how much math sucks just because they wore a onesie that said I hate math? (PS- math does suck!)
Yes, I think it is inappropriate to socialize girls into thinking that math is hard and they are expected to act like divas. Similarly, I think it is inappropriate to socialize boys to be aggressive or macho. Therefore, I do not dress my children in clothing that conflicts with my values. Clearly, the infant cannot read the shirt. But everyone else can. And I prefer not to contribute to those gender stereotypes. Judging from this thread, there is a substantial market for that kind of thing, but I'm not it.
judging from this thread there is a substantial market for this kind of thing? Are you able to read, yet not comprehend? I think the majority of us agreed that the OP was overreacting which is plenty different than saying we were all going to dress our children in these onesies.
I don't understand the logic of making an issue out of a non issue.
I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
What is wrong with those things? I don't understand. Do you really think your INFANT is going to realize how much math sucks just because they wore a onesie that said I hate math? (PS- math does suck!)
Yes, I think it is inappropriate to socialize girls into thinking that math is hard and they are expected to act like divas. Similarly, I think it is inappropriate to socialize boys to be aggressive or macho. Therefore, I do not dress my children in clothing that conflicts with my values. Clearly, the infant cannot read the shirt. But everyone else can. And I prefer not to contribute to those gender stereotypes. Judging from this thread, there is a substantial market for that kind of thing, but I'm not it.
Would you let your child wear a "my aunt rocks!" Onesie? I'm really not trying to be snarky, I just am trying to understand the mindset. NO words allowed on onesies? What about I love my mom?
It is way easier to just say no words at all. Since so many of the clothes with phrases are inappropriate, telling the family "no words" makes it much more likely that the kids will wear clothes that are given to them. We don't do clothes with designer names or licensed characters either. That may change as the kids get older and have their own preferences, but right now, that stuff doesn't stay in the house.
It's not that I Love Mom is a terrible message, but I don't really like clothes that put words in the kid's mouth. What is the point of a onesie that says Auntie Rocks? It's not particularly funny or clever and the chances that an outfit with a cliche phrase emblazoned on it is a cute outfit are really, really low. They're usually just solid color onesies with some glitter spackled on. The ones I really object to are the ones that say Mommy's Shopping Buddy! or Daddy's Wingman! But I don't feel like we're missing out on much in the style department by skipping I Love Mom as well.
I'm with you, OP. In fact, I find so many of the "cute" sayings on kids' clothes to be horrifying that we have a blanket "no words on clothing" rule for our kids. Unless it is a logo of a sports team we cheer for, clothes with phrases go directly into the donate/return pile. If they are particularly offensive, they go in the trash. Sometimes, if the outfit is cute except for a removable piece with words on it, I will cut the offending piece off (a lot of baby clothes from Carter's have a little saying on a tag that is easily removable with a seam ripper).
We have made this policy clear to our families and even though some of them think we are nuts, they don't waste their money on anything that says "Diva" or "I Hate Math" or "Handsome Like Daddy" or "Tough Guy" or anything else like that.
What is wrong with those things? I don't understand. Do you really think your INFANT is going to realize how much math sucks just because they wore a onesie that said I hate math? (PS- math does suck!)
Yes, I think it is inappropriate to socialize girls into thinking that math is hard and they are expected to act like divas. Similarly, I think it is inappropriate to socialize boys to be aggressive or macho. Therefore, I do not dress my children in clothing that conflicts with my values. Clearly, the infant cannot read the shirt. But everyone else can. And I prefer not to contribute to those gender stereotypes. Judging from this thread, there is a substantial market for that kind of thing, but I'm not it.
It is so not even a battle worth fighting though. The clothing your children wear for the most part are bot going to influence the way they are treated. Here are some things to do instead. If you want your daughters to not act like divas or think education is hard, do actual socialization not worrying about their clothing. Read them books about strong educated women. Introduce them to women who are worthy of respect. Likewise allow your boys to cry and do dance if it so pleases them. The saying on their clothing do not affect how people treat them. The people you expose them to does. Ive never once seen a baby with a shirt that says 'princess' or something and switched from treating her as an intelligent little person to a ditzy airhead.
Obviously, the battle is not won or lost on the clothes. But I see no reason to dress them in clothing I find objectionable. If I were a Christian, I would probably not dress my kid up in Little Devil clothes. If I were a Yankees fan, there would probably not be a lot of Red Sox clothing in the house. Since I object to the messages on these clothes, there is no reason to dress my young kids in them. It's not as if my infant cares what he's wearing, so it might as well not be something that makes me wince.
So over this debate...it's really getting old here. The point is, OP received a gift that she is "ungrateful" for, which is ridiculous to me (considering someone thought of her. She could always give it away but to be ungrateful for a gift? No).
Dress your kid in whatever you want. I know I will.
So over this debate...it's really getting old here. The point is, OP received a gift that she is "ungrateful" for, which is ridiculous to me (considering someone thought of her. She could always give it away but to be ungrateful for a gift? No).
Dress your kid in whatever you want. I know I will.
Come on, California....don't you want to drag out a pointless argument with me? What's more fun than that?
So over this debate...it's really getting old here. The point is, OP received a gift that she is "ungrateful" for, which is ridiculous to me (considering someone thought of her. She could always give it away but to be ungrateful for a gift? No).
Dress your kid in whatever you want. I know I will.
Come on, California....don't you want to drag out a pointless argument with me? What's more fun than that?
We're in entertainment, and we're bicoastal. We spend half our time in LA, where raising a little girl who's not an idiot about her body can be a full-time job. I was pretty taken aback that someone would produce an infant onesie like this one.
To each her own. And, no, of course I'm not putting her in it. I want it out of the house.
That's true about all girls, worldwide.
Um no kidding. That's true for parents of girls all over the world.
*headdesk* boys can have body images too. its true of pretty much the WHOLE WORLD. not just girls. (EX: "do you even lift bro")
Eat your food people. You are pregnant, not made of glass. ~PrimRoseMama
And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier.
If my DH had ever insisted they were only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
I don't have girls. But I'd agree with ALL this. I wear a two piece. It's not skanky looking. I don't think anyone is going to say a baby or toddler in a string bikini is ok. But a baby in a two piece that shows maybe a little tummy? Or tanking style that shows nothing at all? NBD IMO. And convenient.
I classify both of these as string bikinis. they exist and people buy them and put their kids into them.
Eat your food people. You are pregnant, not made of glass. ~PrimRoseMama
And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier. If my DH had ever insisted they were only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
I don't have girls. But I'd agree with ALL this. I wear a two piece. It's not skanky looking. I don't think anyone is going to say a baby or toddler in a string bikini is ok. But a baby in a two piece that shows maybe a little tummy? Or tanking style that shows nothing at all? NBD IMO. And convenient.
I classify both of these as string bikinis. they exist and people buy them and put their kids into them.
And...you quoted me because....
Yes I know they exist dummy ...and they are not cool as I said, not many people think they are. As a parent you will find there are things available for purchase that you will not find appropriate for your child. You are going to have to use your judgement and do what's best for your family.
Eyeroll. I'm with Cali, this whole thread has gone waaaay of the original post! Lol.
Some of you are serious prudes. It's a onesie FFS! Stop reading so much into it. Also, dd has always worn a two piece, because they're adorable, and you can have fun getting your kid out of a wet one piece for a diaper change.
I would gift that to my friends, but hey, we aren't uptight women who shelter their kids.
Re: Inappropriate gifts for baby girls. Yes, I'm totally ungrateful.
You're logic is mind boggling.
But whoever brought up the two piece swimsuit thing - you try taking four little girls to a pool or a water park in one pieces. Two pieces take at least half the time to diaper change or potty break in on a wet toddler. And it's not like we buy slutty looking suits for our girls. Tank-style tops and full coverage bottoms can still be cute, appropriate and make potty time much easier.
If my DH had ever insisted they wear only one piece suits I would insist he handle all potty issues during swim trips.
File attached.
Like this. This is a two piece. And very modest.
Yes, I think it is inappropriate to socialize girls into thinking that math is hard and they are expected to act like divas. Similarly, I think it is inappropriate to socialize boys to be aggressive or macho. Therefore, I do not dress my children in clothing that conflicts with my values. Clearly, the infant cannot read the shirt. But everyone else can. And I prefer not to contribute to those gender stereotypes. Judging from this thread, there is a substantial market for that kind of thing, but I'm not it.
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Would you let your child wear a "my aunt rocks!" Onesie? I'm really not trying to be snarky, I just am trying to understand the mindset. NO words allowed on onesies? What about I love my mom?
judging from this thread there is a substantial market for this kind of thing? Are you able to read, yet not comprehend? I think the majority of us agreed that the OP was overreacting which is plenty different than saying we were all going to dress our children in these onesies.
I don't understand the logic of making an issue out of a non issue.
It is way easier to just say no words at all. Since so many of the clothes with phrases are inappropriate, telling the family "no words" makes it much more likely that the kids will wear clothes that are given to them. We don't do clothes with designer names or licensed characters either. That may change as the kids get older and have their own preferences, but right now, that stuff doesn't stay in the house.
It's not that I Love Mom is a terrible message, but I don't really like clothes that put words in the kid's mouth. What is the point of a onesie that says Auntie Rocks? It's not particularly funny or clever and the chances that an outfit with a cliche phrase emblazoned on it is a cute outfit are really, really low. They're usually just solid color onesies with some glitter spackled on. The ones I really object to are the ones that say Mommy's Shopping Buddy! or Daddy's Wingman! But I don't feel like we're missing out on much in the style department by skipping I Love Mom as well.
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Obviously, the battle is not won or lost on the clothes. But I see no reason to dress them in clothing I find objectionable. If I were a Christian, I would probably not dress my kid up in Little Devil clothes. If I were a Yankees fan, there would probably not be a lot of Red Sox clothing in the house. Since I object to the messages on these clothes, there is no reason to dress my young kids in them. It's not as if my infant cares what he's wearing, so it might as well not be something that makes me wince.
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Dress your kid in whatever you want. I know I will.
Come on, California....don't you want to drag out a pointless argument with me? What's more fun than that?
Come on, California....don't you want to drag out a pointless argument with me? What's more fun than that?
Usually I do. But this one is just annoying
And...you quoted me because....
Yes I know they exist dummy ...and they are not cool as I said, not many people think they are. As a parent you will find there are things available for purchase that you will not find appropriate for your child. You are going to have to use your judgement and do what's best for your family.
Eyeroll. I'm with Cali, this whole thread has gone waaaay of the original post! Lol.
Some of you are serious prudes. It's a onesie FFS! Stop reading so much into it. Also, dd has always worn a two piece, because they're adorable, and you can have fun getting your kid out of a wet one piece for a diaper change.
I would gift that to my friends, but hey, we aren't uptight women who shelter their kids.