For some reason reason the post title got me thinking about raisin bran...didn't their slogan used to be two scoops ahead? Anyways...
OP, you should try Google first if you don't want to ask your doctor. It's a neat tool if you haven't heard of it... But seriously, we aren't your doctor. Ask him/her.
No google will list all the bad things, then she would be on here trying to ask us about it. Then people who gave honest answers would be called SNARKY!
She already called us rude for giving honest answers lol! (eta grammar)
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Started trying for our family 6.20.2012 -- BFP 4.16.2013 -- EDD 12.23.2013
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
Glo
Honestly, you have offered ZERO support to an of the women in this community and only chime in when you can act in a condescending manner. know what, your doctor will be likely be dismissive of the question when you ask her. Want to know why? Because contrary to what you may believe, not a ton of information is known about fetal development. Is it because the fetal cells are undergoing mitosis at a faster rate (meaning fetus x vs fetus y)? Because cell cycle isn't arresting, or signals are being transmitted faster/slower? Is it genetics? I mean, the vast majority of what is currently happening to the fetus is driven by its chromosomes. It takes from you what it needs, but it's really simply following a program.
Fetal growth and "normal" fetal growth is a game of statistics. When you're told you're measure bc weeks y days, it's an educated guess. There is no real bible that states the fetus MUST measure this in day x. Dates usually go off your LMP - not the date of implantation or the date that cell division began.
I'm so sick of you only posting to put down women; you have done NOTHING to establish yourself as a member of this community. The best advice women can give is to turn to your doctor if you have questions. Yet you seem to even have issues when that is stated because you feel the need to dissect everyone's tone and delivery. Get off whatever high horse it is you're sitting on, because Avon certainly is no Ivy Tower, and there's no place for your attempts of questioning posters being told to speak to their physician if they have specific questions about their specific cases. When you're done marketing foundation, read up a bit of statistics, normal distribution, fetal development ::specifically the advances in technology and what we know now vs. even 10 years ago:: and mitosis. Maybe at that point we can engage in an educated conversation on this topic, but until then, stick to foundation and actually speak to your doctor if you have questions. That is the BEST advice that can be offered. But, again, don't be surprised if the your ob cannot give you a straight, definitive answer.
If you want to be a member of his community learn to give and offer support. Right now you appear to be uncomfortable with both of these concepts, unless they involve you "rescuing" someone or treating people in a condescending manner. And if the latter if what you prefer, and you want to talk science, medicine or genetics: bring it.
Eta: apologies for typos, bumping while angry from iPad
5 cycles of "TTC" - 3 intentional, 2 not so intentional. 5 BFPs. My rainbow arrived 10/15/14. TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
Maybe her doctor is a d-bag and just ignored her, or he just didn't answer her question in a way that she (a normal person who hasn't been to medical school) could understand. I think she intended this post for those of us who DO know. There's really no reason to act like a billy bada.ss over the Internet because you think it's a "stupid question". As a FTM myself, I don't know what it means either, how is anyone supposed to know what it means unless they are in the same position? Sorry if I sound rude, but she was just looking for some helpful answers not mean and hateful comments.
Maybe her doctor is a d-bag and just ignored her, or he just didn't answer her question in a way that she (a normal person who hasn't been to medical school) could understand. I think she intended this post for those of us who DO know. There's really no reason to act like a billy bada.ss over the Internet because you think it's a "stupid question". As a FTM myself, I don't know what it means either, how is anyone supposed to know what it means unless they are in the same position? Sorry if I sound rude, but she was just looking for some helpful answers not mean and hateful comments.
Do you FTMs who have the "d-bag doctors" who can't answer simple questions (I'd change docs immediately) also not have Google?
Maybe her doctor is a d-bag and just ignored her, or he just didn't answer her question in a way that she (a normal person who hasn't been to medical school) could understand. I think she intended this post for those of us who DO know. There's really no reason to act like a billy bada.ss over the Internet because you think it's a "stupid question". As a FTM myself, I don't know what it means either, how is anyone supposed to know what it means unless they are in the same position? Sorry if I sound rude, but she was just looking for some helpful answers not mean and hateful comments.
Honestly, it's as simple as it sounds. The measurement x is the average measurement seen for a baby measuring x weeks x days. Example: femur is 3mm. According to ALL the data we have on femur measurements, a 3mm femur on average, matches with a gestational age of x weeks and y days. A set of measurements are taken and this is repeated. The femur can measure one approximate dare while the head circumference another. All of these measurements are reviewed and the doctor makes a judgement using their training, practice and published literature.
Why is that so hard to understand?
5 cycles of "TTC" - 3 intentional, 2 not so intentional. 5 BFPs. My rainbow arrived 10/15/14. TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
Glo
Honestly, you have offered ZERO support to an of the women in this community and only chime in when you can act in a condescending manner. know what, your doctor will be likely be dismissive of the question when you ask her. Want to know why? Because contrary to what you may believe, not a ton of information is known about fetal development. Is it because the fetal cells are undergoing mitosis at a faster rate (meaning fetus x vs fetus y)? Because cell cycle isn't arresting, or signals are being transmitted faster/slower? Is it genetics? I mean, the vast majority of what is currently happening to the fetus is driven by its chromosomes. It takes from you what it needs, but it's really simply following a program.
Fetal growth and "normal" fetal growth is a game of statistics. When you're told you're measure bc weeks y days, it's an educated guess. There is no real bible that states the fetus MUST measure this in day x. Dates usually go off your LMP - not the date of implantation or the date that cell division began.
I'm so sick of you only posting to put down women; you have done NOTHING to establish yourself as a member of this community. The best advice women can give is to turn to your doctor if you have questions. Yet you seem to even have issues when that is stated because you feel the need to dissect everyone's tone and delivery. Get off whatever high horse it is you're sitting on, because Avon certainly is no Ivy Tower, and there's no place for your attempts of questioning posters being told to speak to their physician if they have specific questions about their specific cases. When you're done marketing foundation, read up a bit of statistics, normal distribution, fetal development ::specifically the advances in technology and what we know now vs. even 10 years ago:: and mitosis. Maybe at that point we can engage in an educated conversation on this topic, but until then, stick to foundation and actually speak to your doctor if you have questions. That is the BEST advice that can be offered. But, again, don't be surprised if the your ob cannot give you a straight, definitive answer.
If you want to be a member of his community learn to give and offer support. Right now you appear to be uncomfortable with both of these concepts, unless they involve you "rescuing" someone or treating people in a condescending manner. And if the latter if what you prefer, and you want to talk science, medicine or genetics: bring it.
Eta: apologies for typos, bumping while angry from iPad
I am truly sorry for making you so angry. I do however appreciate your explanation on why you are upset. I think you are wrong in characterizing my posts as condescending and saying that "I offer zero support to any of the women" here or that "I put people down." But to each her own. If I have been condescending, I am sorry. I do challenge you to point out where I am condescending though and I'm willing to admit my mistake.
I also appreciate your response as far as fetal development, etc. You learn something everyday.
I do not understand your looking into my background however. Cheap shot perhaps? What's the point? And only marginally accurate.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Maybe her doctor is a d-bag and just ignored her, or he just didn't answer her question in a way that she (a normal person who hasn't been to medical school) could understand.
Then it's time for a new doctor. Who in their right mind would put up with this???
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
I would be super careful about using the word karma around here lately, some of the girls around here are not going to take to this post lightly.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
I would be super careful about using the word karma around here lately, some of the girls around here are not going to take to this post lightly.
I really didn't think about that, I just meant over the forum as I was typing. I do apologize for that.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Gloworm anything said to you by some people is going to pale into comparission of what is going to be said to you now. You should just go before it gets really ugly, I want to remind this is a forum for entertainment only. There is no medical staff here that can answer questions of a poster that should be answered be her dr. I can not speak for everyone but I'm snarky because women come on here looking for us to answer the questions we ourselves have no clue about. Then when given honest answer's they pull the butt hurt card. Would you ask anther FTM what being behind means? Or would you go ask your dr who has had years and years of seeing babies? I think that posting on post you think are snarly and having no real posting history only hurts you. I get a good laugh I was once a new person and made mistakes but I lurked for awhile and learned sometimes it is best to sit there and shut up and not post anything.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
So, my fetus isn't viable because of karma? My husband and I are enduring a life altering tragedy because I have a shit ton of degrees on my wall and professional training that actually do give me the background to give true advice? Fuck the fact that DH and I don't exchange Christmas gifts and instead adopt an impoverished family every year and give them what they need, from simple items such as garbage cans, to clothing and toys for EIGHT children so that the children receive some joy on Christmas morning. Fuck the fact that my life work is devoted to understanding and fighting cancer, and that I began my career helping caregivers and patients withAlzheimers. Forget that I volunteered at animal shelters and found homes for countless animals, I won't even begin to list any other good that myself or my DHhas done, because apparently, karma deserved to bite me in the ass and take away this child, after I've already endured miscarriages. You're right, DH and I deserve to suffer because I was snarky on the bump.
Guess thanks to you I no longer have to sob every single night into silenc, asking why this had to happen to me. Thanks to you, I have my answer.
5 cycles of "TTC" - 3 intentional, 2 not so intentional. 5 BFPs. My rainbow arrived 10/15/14. TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
I hate being mean, but I will be brutally honest, I will come here and ask if similar things have happened to ladies, just for the experience I always call my dr if I'm unsure. Sorry if everyone on the forum is suppose to just give the answers to the OP but thats not how life rolls. Some people get all the answers and some people will never know the answers. What is the grand scheme of things is be grateful you have a child that is measuring ahead instead of behind. Some people in this month have not been so lucky.... If your going to post on the snarky comments to all those who have rudley posted today try being more active in posting period. Do not come on here and let a post that was not your post rub you in the wrong place. Please remember some of these ladies have been around for years and know what they are talking about.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Then leave and STFU!!! People are going through some crappy stuff right now and some moron asks a stupid question and they're going to get snarky responses. Read a freaking book and you can find so many answers. It's incredible! Sorry, seeing VC's response got me all worked up b/c she doesn't deserve it. She has been nothing but helpful to a majority of this board.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
So, my fetus isn't viable because of karma? My husband and I are enduring a life altering tragedy because I have a shit ton of degrees on my wall and professional training that actually do give me the background to give true advice? Fuck the fact that DH and I don't exchange Christmas gifts and instead adopt an impoverished family every year and give them what they need, from simple items such as garbage cans, to clothing and toys for EIGHT children so that the children receive some joy on Christmas morning. Fuck the fact that my life work is devoted to understanding and fighting cancer, and that I began my career helping caregivers and patients withAlzheimers. Forget that I volunteered at animal shelters and found homes for countless animals, I won't even begin to list any other good that myself or my DHhas done, because apparently, karma deserved to bite me in the ass and take away this child, after I've already endured miscarriages. You're right, DH and I deserve to suffer because I was snarky on the bump.
Guess thanks to you I no longer have to sob every single night into silenc, asking why this had to happen to me. Thanks to you, I have my answer.
This made me tear up, Vanessa. Shame on you, @hannahhensley for saying that to anyone EVER but especially now - to VC.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Ah, so I am being condescending by saying that a nutty thread such is not that important in the grand scheme of things....
I gauge from your post that VC is going through something serious. I did not know. I am truly sorry for what she is going thru and hope that it turns out well in the end. And I think this is more reason for her not to let a silly thread such as this one get her upset.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Ah, so I am being condescending by saying that a nutty thread such is not that important in the grand scheme of things....
I gauge from your post that VC is going through something serious. I did not know. I am truly sorry for what she is going thru and hope that it turns out well in the end. And I think this is more reason for her not to let a silly thread such as this one get her upset.
She can do whatever the hell she wants to! Maybe she can find a little bit of laughter from all the snark. You shouldn't make statements about what she should and should not be doing...
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Ah, so I am being condescending by saying that a nutty thread such is not that important in the grand scheme of things....
I gauge from your post that VC is going through something serious. I did not know. I am truly sorry for what she is going thru and hope that it turns out well in the end. And I think this is more reason for her not to let a silly thread such as this one get her upset.
And I think this is the point - if you knew this board, if you lurked, if you participated, you would know that already and know to think before you speak. And yeah, it is condescending to tell someone to not get worked up - it implies that you know what's important and they don't and they should listen to you.
And none of this is meant to be snarky or mean - it's just a fact. We are a close-knit community who genuinely try to help one another. And we get a little annoyed by silly questions (or questions that are worded in a silly manner) because people ARE going through serious stuff on here. And we did give good advice - we have no idea what it means for your kid, ask your doctor. We usually don't get snarky until someone comes back and scolds us for being mean. THEN, we usually respond in kind. Again, you would know this if you spent much time with us.
Just use the wonderful new tool we have and flag them, they are not worth the space on the page anymore. I'm sorry hensley and glo and anyone else who has commented on the snarkyness of the group, you must all have perfect lives. You must be all powerful and able to answer anyones question here is a suggestion GTFO and go form an know it all group you all belong with each other.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
So, my fetus isn't viable because of karma? My husband and I are enduring a life altering tragedy because I have a shit ton of degrees on my wall and professional training that actually do give me the background to give true advice? Fuck the fact that DH and I don't exchange Christmas gifts and instead adopt an impoverished family every year and give them what they need, from simple items such as garbage cans, to clothing and toys for EIGHT children so that the children receive some joy on Christmas morning. Fuck the fact that my life work is devoted to understanding and fighting cancer, and that I began my career helping caregivers and patients withAlzheimers. Forget that I volunteered at animal shelters and found homes for countless animals, I won't even begin to list any other good that myself or my DHhas done, because apparently, karma deserved to bite me in the ass and take away this child, after I've already endured miscarriages. You're right, DH and I deserve to suffer because I was snarky on the bump.
Guess thanks to you I no longer have to sob every single night into silenc, asking why this had to happen to me. Thanks to you, I have my answer.
VC,
I am very sorry for what you are going through right now. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
You were very angry in your responses in this thread and given what you are going through, I now understand. I do sincerely hope that despite how bleak things are right now, you will find happiness in the not-too-distant future.
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Ah, so I am being condescending by saying that a nutty thread such is not that important in the grand scheme of things....
I gauge from your post that VC is going through something serious. I did not know. I am truly sorry for what she is going thru and hope that it turns out well in the end. And I think this is more reason for her not to let a silly thread such as this one get her upset.
If you had really been lurking on this board, you would know what is going on with her. Anyone who even remotely reads this forum knows what she is going through.
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Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Ah, so I am being condescending by saying that a nutty thread such is not that important in the grand scheme of things....
I gauge from your post that VC is going through something serious. I did not know. I am truly sorry for what she is going thru and hope that it turns out well in the end. And I think this is more reason for her not to let a silly thread such as this one get her upset.
See, that's why you popping in and out to white knight for people is really fucking annoying...not to mention how dare you tell VC how to spend her time.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
Glo
Honestly, you have offered ZERO support to an of the women in this community and only chime in when you can act in a condescending manner. know what, your doctor will be likely be dismissive of the question when you ask her. Want to know why? Because contrary to what you may believe, not a ton of information is known about fetal development. Is it because the fetal cells are undergoing mitosis at a faster rate (meaning fetus x vs fetus y)? Because cell cycle isn't arresting, or signals are being transmitted faster/slower? Is it genetics? I mean, the vast majority of what is currently happening to the fetus is driven by its chromosomes. It takes from you what it needs, but it's really simply following a program.
Fetal growth and "normal" fetal growth is a game of statistics. When you're told you're measure bc weeks y days, it's an educated guess. There is no real bible that states the fetus MUST measure this in day x. Dates usually go off your LMP - not the date of implantation or the date that cell division began.
I'm so sick of you only posting to put down women; you have done NOTHING to establish yourself as a member of this community. The best advice women can give is to turn to your doctor if you have questions. Yet you seem to even have issues when that is stated because you feel the need to dissect everyone's tone and delivery. Get off whatever high horse it is you're sitting on, because Avon certainly is no Ivy Tower, and there's no place for your attempts of questioning posters being told to speak to their physician if they have specific questions about their specific cases. When you're done marketing foundation, read up a bit of statistics, normal distribution, fetal development ::specifically the advances in technology and what we know now vs. even 10 years ago:: and mitosis. Maybe at that point we can engage in an educated conversation on this topic, but until then, stick to foundation and actually speak to your doctor if you have questions. That is the BEST advice that can be offered. But, again, don't be surprised if the your ob cannot give you a straight, definitive answer.
If you want to be a member of his community learn to give and offer support. Right now you appear to be uncomfortable with both of these concepts, unless they involve you "rescuing" someone or treating people in a condescending manner. And if the latter if what you prefer, and you want to talk science, medicine or genetics: bring it.
Eta: apologies for typos, bumping while angry from iPad
I am truly sorry for making you so angry. I do however appreciate your explanation on why you are upset. I think you are wrong in characterizing my posts as condescending and saying that "I offer zero support to any of the women" here or that "I put people down." But to each her own. If I have been condescending, I am sorry. I do challenge you to point out where I am condescending though and I'm willing to admit my mistake.
I also appreciate your response as far as fetal development, etc. You learn something everyday.
I do not understand your looking into my background however. Cheap shot perhaps? What's the point? And only marginally accurate.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
I think you're missing a huge element of the act of being condescending. It's in the eye of the beholder. It's about how you speak to someone and how you address them. It's their physical and emotional reaction to your words and your delivery. The fact that multiple people have told you that when you are on here, you are in fact, condescending, should be a bit of a hint to you that you are presenting yourself in such a manner. I've been told I am condescending because I can be very blunt and factual. Could someone actually point to words that were condescending, such as actual put downs? No, they could not, but that wasn't the point. It's more about the way you present yourself and the way people are receiving you. Obviously, at least on here, people are receiving your posts as being condescending, and that's that.
5 cycles of "TTC" - 3 intentional, 2 not so intentional. 5 BFPs. My rainbow arrived 10/15/14. TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
Nor do you have the right to tell someone when the will get over their grief. BTW sometime's people never do it takes a peice of them, I think you should leave now your nothing but a troll and take the other trolls with you....
Being rude to strangers over the Internet must give some of you some kind of weird happiness in your lives. Y'all can go ahead and talk about everyone else's "stupid" questions, but when something comes up that you don't understand don't be crying about how people are rude to you because you don't know the answer to it. Sorry, but karma is going to bite you in the arse someday for acting like that. This is a forum for all sorts of questions to be answered by people who care and know the answers to. Not to act like high schoolers & post about everyone. I did like this website until I saw all of the rude comments that some women have posted. There's a way to answer a question and to let someone know to just ask their doctor or "google" it next time, instead of being a smart alec.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
Um, before you say things like this, you should maybe know who you are talking to. Of ANYONE on this board, she knows what is important and what isn't right now.
Before anyone goes and misinterprets what I meant by that innocent phrase let me restate it.
All of the crap currently happening on this thread is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Nope, that's pretty much exactly what i thought you meant. And I again say, of anyone, VC knows what's important and what's not. More importantly, you asked to be told when you were being condescending - well, here's one. You tell someone who's gone through what VC has gone through not to get worked up because this isn't important? Yeah, condescending.
Ah, so I am being condescending by saying that a nutty thread such is not that important in the grand scheme of things....
I gauge from your post that VC is going through something serious. I did not know. I am truly sorry for what she is going thru and hope that it turns out well in the end. And I think this is more reason for her not to let a silly thread such as this one get her upset.
If you had really been lurking on this board, you would know what is going on with her. Anyone who even remotely reads this forum knows what she is going through.
I work full time and so I don't know what is going on with most if not all the members on this board. If I read a post or thread, I don't pay particular attention to the name of the poster. I try to follow the discussion.
Nor do you have the right to tell someone when the will get over their grief. BTW sometime's people never do it takes a peice of them, I think you should leave now your nothing but a troll and take the other trolls with you....
By telling her that this thread wasn't that important in the grand scheme of things, I was not telling her to get over her grief (which I didn't she was going through.) That is a huge leap.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I would say that I appreciate the question. Since I'm a FTM I'm not familiar with what the phrase "measuring x days/weeks ahead" truly means. My question is it good/bad/inconsequential for the baby/mom? How does that happen? Is it because the mom eats too much? Or is it mostly genetic? I truly don't know. But, perhaps I'll ask my doctor at my next appointment. Maybe she'll find my question impertinent and respond in a snarky manner.
Glo
Honestly, you have offered ZERO support to an of the women in this community and only chime in when you can act in a condescending manner. know what, your doctor will be likely be dismissive of the question when you ask her. Want to know why? Because contrary to what you may believe, not a ton of information is known about fetal development. Is it because the fetal cells are undergoing mitosis at a faster rate (meaning fetus x vs fetus y)? Because cell cycle isn't arresting, or signals are being transmitted faster/slower? Is it genetics? I mean, the vast majority of what is currently happening to the fetus is driven by its chromosomes. It takes from you what it needs, but it's really simply following a program.
Fetal growth and "normal" fetal growth is a game of statistics. When you're told you're measure bc weeks y days, it's an educated guess. There is no real bible that states the fetus MUST measure this in day x. Dates usually go off your LMP - not the date of implantation or the date that cell division began.
I'm so sick of you only posting to put down women; you have done NOTHING to establish yourself as a member of this community. The best advice women can give is to turn to your doctor if you have questions. Yet you seem to even have issues when that is stated because you feel the need to dissect everyone's tone and delivery. Get off whatever high horse it is you're sitting on, because Avon certainly is no Ivy Tower, and there's no place for your attempts of questioning posters being told to speak to their physician if they have specific questions about their specific cases. When you're done marketing foundation, read up a bit of statistics, normal distribution, fetal development ::specifically the advances in technology and what we know now vs. even 10 years ago:: and mitosis. Maybe at that point we can engage in an educated conversation on this topic, but until then, stick to foundation and actually speak to your doctor if you have questions. That is the BEST advice that can be offered. But, again, don't be surprised if the your ob cannot give you a straight, definitive answer.
If you want to be a member of his community learn to give and offer support. Right now you appear to be uncomfortable with both of these concepts, unless they involve you "rescuing" someone or treating people in a condescending manner. And if the latter if what you prefer, and you want to talk science, medicine or genetics: bring it.
Eta: apologies for typos, bumping while angry from iPad
I am truly sorry for making you so angry. I do however appreciate your explanation on why you are upset. I think you are wrong in characterizing my posts as condescending and saying that "I offer zero support to any of the women" here or that "I put people down." But to each her own. If I have been condescending, I am sorry. I do challenge you to point out where I am condescending though and I'm willing to admit my mistake.
I also appreciate your response as far as fetal development, etc. You learn something everyday.
I do not understand your looking into my background however. Cheap shot perhaps? What's the point? And only marginally accurate.
Lastly, don't get so upset. All of this is really not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Glo
I think you're missing a huge element of the act of being condescending. It's in the eye of the beholder. It's about how you speak to someone and how you address them. It's their physical and emotional reaction to your words and your delivery. The fact that multiple people have told you that when you are on here, you are in fact, condescending, should be a bit of a hint to you that you are presenting yourself in such a manner. I've been told I am condescending because I can be very blunt and factual. Could someone actually point to words that were condescending, such as actual put downs? No, they could not, but that wasn't the point. It's more about the way you present yourself and the way people are receiving you. Obviously, at least on here, people are receiving your posts as being condescending, and that's that.
Everyone here has their own definition of this word, I think.
Re: Measuring 2 Weeks Ahead
She already called us rude for giving honest answers lol!
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Honestly, you have offered ZERO support to an of the women in this community and only chime in when you can act in a condescending manner. know what, your doctor will be likely be dismissive of the question when you ask her. Want to know why? Because contrary to what you may believe, not a ton of information is known about fetal development. Is it because the fetal cells are undergoing mitosis at a faster rate (meaning fetus x vs fetus y)? Because cell cycle isn't arresting, or signals are being transmitted faster/slower? Is it genetics? I mean, the vast majority of what is currently happening to the fetus is driven by its chromosomes. It takes from you what it needs, but it's really simply following a program. Fetal growth and "normal" fetal growth is a game of statistics. When you're told you're measure bc weeks y days, it's an educated guess. There is no real bible that states the fetus MUST measure this in day x. Dates usually go off your LMP - not the date of implantation or the date that cell division began. I'm so sick of you only posting to put down women; you have done NOTHING to establish yourself as a member of this community. The best advice women can give is to turn to your doctor if you have questions. Yet you seem to even have issues when that is stated because you feel the need to dissect everyone's tone and delivery. Get off whatever high horse it is you're sitting on, because Avon certainly is no Ivy Tower, and there's no place for your attempts of questioning posters being told to speak to their physician if they have specific questions about their specific cases. When you're done marketing foundation, read up a bit of statistics, normal distribution, fetal development ::specifically the advances in technology and what we know now vs. even 10 years ago:: and mitosis. Maybe at that point we can engage in an educated conversation on this topic, but until then, stick to foundation and actually speak to your doctor if you have questions. That is the BEST advice that can be offered. But, again, don't be surprised if the your ob cannot give you a straight, definitive answer. If you want to be a member of his community learn to give and offer support. Right now you appear to be uncomfortable with both of these concepts, unless they involve you "rescuing" someone or treating people in a condescending manner. And if the latter if what you prefer, and you want to talk science, medicine or genetics: bring it. Eta: apologies for typos, bumping while angry from iPad
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
How do you go though your pregnancy without caring enough to educate yourself about what's happening.
Babies do not all weight the same when they are born. What!?!?! You mean people grow at different rates?!?! Seriously...
Also, stop using FTM as an excuse because I don't want to be labeled for your ignorance.
I really didn't think about that, I just meant over the forum as I was typing. I do apologize for that.
So, my fetus isn't viable because of karma? My husband and I are enduring a life altering tragedy because I have a shit ton of degrees on my wall and professional training that actually do give me the background to give true advice? Fuck the fact that DH and I don't exchange Christmas gifts and instead adopt an impoverished family every year and give them what they need, from simple items such as garbage cans, to clothing and toys for EIGHT children so that the children receive some joy on Christmas morning. Fuck the fact that my life work is devoted to understanding and fighting cancer, and that I began my career helping caregivers and patients withAlzheimers. Forget that I volunteered at animal shelters and found homes for countless animals, I won't even begin to list any other good that myself or my DHhas done, because apparently, karma deserved to bite me in the ass and take away this child, after I've already endured miscarriages. You're right, DH and I deserve to suffer because I was snarky on the bump. Guess thanks to you I no longer have to sob every single night into silenc, asking why this had to happen to me. Thanks to you, I have my answer.
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
So, my fetus isn't viable because of karma? My husband and I are enduring a life altering tragedy because I have a shit ton of degrees on my wall and professional training that actually do give me the background to give true advice? Fuck the fact that DH and I don't exchange Christmas gifts and instead adopt an impoverished family every year and give them what they need, from simple items such as garbage cans, to clothing and toys for EIGHT children so that the children receive some joy on Christmas morning. Fuck the fact that my life work is devoted to understanding and fighting cancer, and that I began my career helping caregivers and patients withAlzheimers. Forget that I volunteered at animal shelters and found homes for countless animals, I won't even begin to list any other good that myself or my DHhas done, because apparently, karma deserved to bite me in the ass and take away this child, after I've already endured miscarriages. You're right, DH and I deserve to suffer because I was snarky on the bump.
Guess thanks to you I no longer have to sob every single night into silenc, asking why this had to happen to me. Thanks to you, I have my answer.
This made me tear up, Vanessa.
Shame on you, @hannahhensley for saying that to anyone EVER but especially now - to VC.
And none of this is meant to be snarky or mean - it's just a fact. We are a close-knit community who genuinely try to help one another. And we get a little annoyed by silly questions (or questions that are worded in a silly manner) because people ARE going through serious stuff on here. And we did give good advice - we have no idea what it means for your kid, ask your doctor. We usually don't get snarky until someone comes back and scolds us for being mean. THEN, we usually respond in kind. Again, you would know this if you spent much time with us.
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See, that's why you popping in and out to white knight for people is really fucking annoying...not to mention how dare you tell VC how to spend her time.
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
I work full time and so I don't know what is going on with most if not all the members on this board. If I read a post or thread, I don't pay particular attention to the name of the poster. I try to follow the discussion.
CP: 01/2011 | MMC: 01/2012 | MMC: 10/2012 | DS: 11/2013 | MMC: 11/2014 | DD: 01/2016
BFP: 06/2018 - EDD: 02/09/2019