September 2013 Moms

Maternity Leave Options

I get 6 weeks of paid maternity leave and have the option to take an additional 6 weeks unpaid.  We've been working our butts off and saving every penny to make it possible for me to get a full 12 weeks of leave.  However, I realized that I will still be required to pay my health insurance premiums (about $110/month) as well as my 401k loan payments (about $170/month).  So I started thinking about going back for 2 days a week after my 6 paid weeks are up so that we aren't quite as strapped for money. I'm just worried whether or not I will regret it.

Any BTDT moms that regret going back to work too early?

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  • Nope, no regrets for going back at 8 weeks.
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  • Yes. I went back at 8 weeks for financial reasons and regretted it a lot. We had plenty in our savings to cover more time off but I chose to return rather than dip into it. I think that was a mistake. 
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    I know that there was no way that I could have gone back at 6 weeks with DS.  He still wasn't sleeping much at night and I was a zombie and really just emotionally fried.  I had 6 weeks on STD and then took two weeks unpaid before working for 4 weeks at home.  I know there ARE people that go back to work at 6 weeks (or even earlier), but I couldn't have done it.
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  • I am given six paid maternity leave and am opting to add on an additional two weeks of my vacation days. There is no option of unpaid maternity leave and I am hoping that the additional two weeks I am taking and the three weeks DH is taking will ease my mind and I will have no regrets.

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  • auroraloo said:

    You might not regret going back early, but you might. It's quite unlikely you'll regret staying home longer.
    Not true for everyone.  I am not cut out for being a full time SAHM.  I am in Canada so I get a year of paid mat leave (at a % of my usual daily earnings, not full earnings) and I am terrified of being home that long that I am actively looking at job postings so I can go back to teaching sooner rather than the whole year later. 
  • auroraloo said:
    auroraloo said:

    You might not regret going back early, but you might. It's quite unlikely you'll regret staying home longer.
    Not true for everyone.  I am not cut out for being a full time SAHM.  I am in Canada so I get a year of paid mat leave (at a % of my usual daily earnings, not full earnings) and I am terrified of being home that long that I am actively looking at job postings so I can go back to teaching sooner rather than the whole year later. 
    well, I said quite unlikely, not definitely :) And taking a longer maternity leave doesn't make you a SAHM either :)
    I'll give you that one. 
    :P
  • You can't suspend 401K deductions while you're out?  
  • susanb887 said:
    What about FMLA. I know that's only a US thing but I'm not sure where everyone is from. That entitles you to 12 weeks unpaid leave. I'm not eligible because you have to be working somewhere for 1 year but the agency is being kind.
    Your company also has to have 75 employees in a 100 mile radius, in addition to the one year thing.

    OP, I think 2 days/week sounds like a perfect balance. You will get a feel as to whether or not you like being a SAHM or if you are relieved to be back at work.
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  • I'm taking 10 weeks, 6 short term disability (FMLA) paid at 70% and 4 unpaid. I too have to pay back insurance at 332.61 big weekly. I'll go back part time for a week to get my feet wet ....it sucks but happy to take 10

     

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  • I don't have a STD option, and no other sort of paid leave.  I'm taking FML (12 weeks of unpaid leave) plus another 2 weeks of supervisor-approved unpaid leave, and I've saved as much sick and personal leave as I can so I can get paid a little while I'm out.  I'll be out for 4 months this time around.  Last time I only took 9 weeks, although I could have taken more unpaid time and I regret going back early.  Putting my 9 week old baby in daycare was super hard.  I'm not doing it again, even though the guys I work with seem to think 4 months is an abnormally long time to be out.  (All the women, conversely, think it's great that I'm taking that much time off...in my field it's not uncommon to come back after 6 weeks--but I couldn't do it.) 

    As a previous poster mentioned, feeling up to working will depend a lot on how your baby sleeps and how much sleep you get.  DS was 6 months old before he slept more than 5 hours at a time at night, so I ran on fumes for a long time.  Plus, after I went back to work I was away from my desk pumping a lot, and didn't feel very productive...like I was failing at work and failing for not being home.  It's a difficult adjustment at first, probably no matter how much time you take off...but it gets better.  
  • Thanks for the insight ladies!  I should have clarified, the 6 paid weeks is STD and the additional 6 is part of the FMLA. 

    Right now I'm leaning toward going back for 2 days a week.  If I absolutely hate it, my manager is pretty flexible and I could probably drop back out.  I think that I'll feel terrible having to come up with an extra $500 to pay insurance preiums/401K payments vs. having all that taken care of PLUS an extra $900 in pocket cash that I can use for baby expenses throughout the 6 weeks.  It just makes the most sense.

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  • The US has the absolute worst policies regarding family leave. People in Afghanistan don't have this problem. AFGHANISTAN!

    I am thoroughly aware that this outburst of mine doesn't help your situation in the slightest. The topic in general just happens to be one that has set me off quite frequently in recent history for what I would consider to be obvious reasons.
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  • Samielle said:
    The US has the absolute worst policies regarding family leave. People in Afghanistan don't have this problem. AFGHANISTAN! I am thoroughly aware that this outburst of mine doesn't help your situation in the slightest. The topic in general just happens to be one that has set me off quite frequently in recent history for what I would consider to be obvious reasons.
    So true, I feel like the US is all about money, money, money and very little about family values compared to other countries.  I wish I lived in Canada at times like this!

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  • I am a retirement plan consultant so I can tell you this with regards to the 401k loan....401k Loan payments may be suspended for a period up to one year while a participant is on leave of absence. Whether that individual is entitled to a suspension depends on the language of the loan policy and plan document.

    Sec. 1.72(p)-1 refers only to "leave of absence"; thus, a leave for worker's comp, disability, family medical leave, or "I just need a break" leave will qualify.

    Under IRS regulations, a participant who has received a plan loan would be able to take a leave of absence of up to one year and not make loan repayments without violating the level amortization requirement (IRS Reg. §1.72(p)-1, Q&A-9). However, while on leave, the participant could not receive pay or could only receive a rate of pay that is (after withholding) less than the amount of the required installment payments. The loan would still have to be repaid within the required time period (i.e., the 5-year rule would not be extended) and installments due at the end of the leave period could not be less than those required under the original loan terms.
  • I am a retirement plan consultant so I can tell you this with regards to the 401k loan....401k Loan payments may be suspended for a period up to one year while a participant is on leave of absence. Whether that individual is entitled to a suspension depends on the language of the loan policy and plan document.

    Sec. 1.72(p)-1 refers only to "leave of absence"; thus, a leave for worker's comp, disability, family medical leave, or "I just need a break" leave will qualify.

    Under IRS regulations, a participant who has received a plan loan would be able to take a leave of absence of up to one year and not make loan repayments without violating the level amortization requirement (IRS Reg. §1.72(p)-1, Q&A-9). However, while on leave, the participant could not receive pay or could only receive a rate of pay that is (after withholding) less than the amount of the required installment payments. The loan would still have to be repaid within the required time period (i.e., the 5-year rule would not be extended) and installments due at the end of the leave period could not be less than those required under the original loan terms.
    Thanks for the info, I tried reading up on my plan but couldn't find any answers.  I guess I could always call.  Too bad I can't take a "leave" from my insurance premiums as well!

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  • I went back after 4 weeks with my daughter, by then I was going crazy to go back because I have always had a job and could not stand not being able to work. I also had no choice because I was not getting paid leave.

    This go around we will see what happens. We have a family business and it has been lightly discussed, but I would like at least 4 weeks to recover - even if I have to do work at home. My job is not physically demanding but when we are busy it is a mentally exhausting job. I know we can only afford to get paid a few weeks out of the office. We would be ok financially with me not working but I like having the income to put away in case something should happen to one of us or if business slowed back down again.
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  • I get leave, up to 120 days for medical needs, and plan to take my 8 weeks post csection. But no pay for anything except about a week that I have vacation left. DF insists that I take the full 8 unless I have to stop working a week or more before DS arrives. I have to pay my insurance premiums as well. You're 401K loan may be deferrable though!

  • Samielle said:
    The US has the absolute worst policies regarding family leave. People in Afghanistan don't have this problem. AFGHANISTAN! I am thoroughly aware that this outburst of mine doesn't help your situation in the slightest. The topic in general just happens to be one that has set me off quite frequently in recent history for what I would consider to be obvious reasons.
    So true, I feel like the US is all about money, money, money and very little about family values compared to other countries.  I wish I lived in Canada at times like this!
    This may be an UO, but I'm glad we don't have "better" leave policies in the US if you're talking about paid maternity leave. Reason being, that money comes from somewhere. It's not just free paid leave. My friend in Canada will enjoy a more financially sound postpartum leave than I will, and I totally prefer that over having to pay anywhere near what she does in taxes. Over a lifetime, it's cheaper for me to not have the paid maternity leave and enjoy a substantially lower tax rate.

    Also, it's the same thing for companies that subsidize maternity leave; its part of an overall compensation package and has to come from somewhere. I work for the federal government, where we get zero paid maternity leave (have to use our own sick leave and annual leave). But when I look at my pension plan, retirement matching policy, etc, I'm glad that my overall benefits are structured the way they are. 

    I think just looking at wanting paid maternity leave without considering the overall impact of what that would mean is short-sighted. Of course, if ya'll were talking about non-paid leave, disregard 
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  • I have always had to go back at 8 weeks. I get 6 weeks of STD then use my vacation for the rest. I hate my job but I have to work. I would take off as much time as you can afford.

     

  • Cleo421 said:

    Samielle said:
    The US has the absolute worst policies regarding family leave. People in Afghanistan don't have this problem. AFGHANISTAN! I am thoroughly aware that this outburst of mine doesn't help your situation in the slightest. The topic in general just happens to be one that has set me off quite frequently in recent history for what I would consider to be obvious reasons.
    So true, I feel like the US is all about money, money, money and very little about family values compared to other countries.  I wish I lived in Canada at times like this!
    This may be an UO, but I'm glad we don't have "better" leave policies in the US if you're talking about paid maternity leave. Reason being, that money comes from somewhere. It's not just free paid leave. My friend in Canada will enjoy a more financially sound postpartum leave than I will, and I totally prefer that over having to pay anywhere near what she does in taxes. Over a lifetime, it's cheaper for me to not have the paid maternity leave and enjoy a substantially lower tax rate.

    Also, it's the same thing for companies that subsidize maternity leave; its part of an overall compensation package and has to come from somewhere. I work for the federal government, where we get zero paid maternity leave (have to use our own sick leave and annual leave). But when I look at my pension plan, retirement matching policy, etc, I'm glad that my overall benefits are structured the way they are. 

    I think just looking at wanting paid maternity leave without considering the overall impact of what that would mean is short-sighted. Of course, if ya'll were talking about non-paid leave, disregard 
    B-)
    @Cleo - are you being serious? We are supposed to be a first world country, but we have the WORST maternity leave options in the world.  We should take a page from the Scandinavians here and have at least 12 weeks paid leave, and paternity leave.  It is a shame that a mother (and father) has to leave a baby at home/ at daycare because of the financial impact. Now  there's an overall impact that should be considered. Everywhere in Europe and the rest of the world this is standard.  Here it is frowned upon. I'm sorry, but my UO is if you think that maternity leave should be unpaid  and that is the right thing to do, they have you brainwashed.
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  • I took 6 weeks with my first and went from full- time to part-time of 15 hours. Since I am still part-time, I'm only taking 5 weeks this time around. I am also fortunate because my husband watches our kids when I work, so I think that is a big factor in deciding how long of maternity. If they are going to day care, I'd take the 12 weeks.
  • My UO is that I'd rather pay higher taxes for a more focused FMLA...
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  • Wow! I feel for you ladies. Things are so different here in Australia. My employer gives us 15 weeks at full pay or 30 weeks at half pay and a total of 12 months maternity leave. I'm taking the 30 weeks and staying off work for 12 months with what I've saved. I couldn't imagine going back so soon especially as a FTM.

  • Cleo421 said:



    Samielle said:

    The US has the absolute worst policies regarding family leave. People in Afghanistan don't have this problem. AFGHANISTAN!

    I am thoroughly aware that this outburst of mine doesn't help your situation in the slightest. The topic in general just happens to be one that has set me off quite frequently in recent history for what I would consider to be obvious reasons.

    So true, I feel like the US is all about money, money, money and very
    little about family values compared to other countries.  I wish I lived
    in Canada at times like this!
    This may be an UO, but I'm glad we don't have "better" leave policies in the US if you're talking about paid maternity leave. Reason being, that money comes from somewhere. It's not just free paid leave. My friend in Canada will enjoy a more financially sound postpartum leave than I will, and I totally prefer that over having to pay anywhere near what she does in taxes. Over a lifetime, it's cheaper for me to not have the paid maternity leave and enjoy a substantially lower tax rate.

    Also, it's the same thing for companies that subsidize maternity leave; its part of an overall compensation package and has to come from somewhere. I work for the federal government, where we get zero paid maternity leave (have to use our own sick leave and annual leave). But when I look at my pension plan, retirement matching policy, etc, I'm glad that my overall benefits are structured the way they are. 

    I think just looking at wanting paid maternity leave without considering the overall impact of what that would mean is short-sighted. Of course, if ya'll were talking about non-paid leave, disregard 
    B-)

    @Cleo - are you being serious? We are supposed to be a first world country, but we have the WORST maternity leave options in the world.  We should take a page from the Scandinavians here and have at least 12 weeks paid leave, and paternity leave.  It is a shame that a mother (and father) has to leave a baby at home/ at daycare because of the financial impact. Now  there's an overall impact that should be considered. Everywhere in Europe and the rest of the world this is standard.  Here it is frowned upon. I'm sorry, but my UO is if you think that maternity leave should be unpaid  and that is the right thing to do, they have you brainwashed.


    I'm actually pretty insulted that you think because I disagree with you that "they" (and who exactly are "they," praytell?) have me "brainwashed." I'm a fairly intelligent person who is very politically informed and welcomes a debate on this. But please, don't act like I'm ignorant or "brainwashed" bc I disagree with you.

    Scandinavia??! Do you know what their tax rate is?! Now is my turn to ask you if you're kidding me. One of my closest friends is from Sweden. Try living over there and taking home a substantially smaller portion of your paycheck because you are subsidizing (among other things, obviously) others' maternity leave and childcare.

    And to say its a "shame" that a parent has to leave their child at home or put them in daycare bc of financial impact of staying home themselves? If you don't have the money to live off of one income, then yes, you need to arrange childcare. Exactly who do you think should pay you for staying home and caring for your child? Me? The rest of the taxpayers? IMO, that's pretty entitled. What was just said on the UO thread about fiscal responsibility when family planning?

    Many people, myself included, choose to take longer maternity leaves (im taking four unpaid months). But I pay for it myself with money that I've saved. I don't think that just bc I'm popping out kids, it's unfair that Uncle Sam doesn't cut me a check (like they do in Scandanavia). Me paying for my own maternity leave has minimal financial impact compared to my paying higher taxes every year.

    And no, I'm not some "brainwashed" extremist republican if that's what you're thinking. I'm from Boston if that tells you anything, was trained in some of the most liberal institutions in the country, and have been politically active in just about every major socially liberal cause out there. And I also happen to believe strongly in fiscal conservatism.
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  • foxyroxy said:
    susanb887 said:
    What about FMLA. I know that's only a US thing but I'm not sure where everyone is from. That entitles you to 12 weeks unpaid leave. I'm not eligible because you have to be working somewhere for 1 year but the agency is being kind.
    Your company also has to have 75 employees in a 100 mile radius, in addition to the one year thing.

    OP, I think 2 days/week sounds like a perfect balance. You will get a feel as to whether or not you like being a SAHM or if you are relieved to be back at work.

    There are exceptions to this. You really need to find out what your state requires for businesses that do not meter that criteria. It's a small chance but something to look into
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  • 6 weeks seems early.  I know personally for me I wasn't ready, I was still so, so tired.  But my DD had severe reflux and was difficult the first few wks of life, and the added stresses of being a FTM was hard on me.  I would say I was ready to go back around 10 wks, but took the full 12 weeks off b/c I got paid all the way through. 

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  • @Cleo: (because the quote tree is getting too long)

    Intelligence has nothing to do with being brain washed... And really don't get me started on what uncle Sam pays for (or should pay for, because that is a whole new discussion) Trust me I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal, this had nothing to do with entitlement.  You have the ability to have to savings to be able to save and stay at home for 4 months.  Many people in this country do not. There has to be a way that 12 weeks paid maternity leave is just the norm.  You want to talk numbers? Start crunching the numbers of one mother, that can go back to work after 12 weeks, and contribute to the economy.  How many jobs are created? How many mothers have to stay at home because child care costs are so insane that it is "cheaper" for her to stay at home? You are not looking at the big picture here.  The impact of this is much bigger .
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