So I am obviously in the dark and casually mentioned to DH that I had some errands to run one being Hobby Lobby (Ive never been, thought it might be cheaper then Michaels) He gives me this look of disgust that I would ever consider shopping there. The owners are very religious and think contraception is wrong, therefore, they are fighting the gov't to allow them not to include birth control options to their employees per their insurance coverage.
My question to you is are there items you wont buy or places you would not shop because morally you feel it would be supporting something you dont believe in.
Re: HTT: Hobby Lobby
I was just thinking of you the other day. How are you doing?
This plus they're closed on Sundays which I find really flucking annoying!
Hum, ok, I will not shop at Abercrombie, mainly because I am not 16...and I love Chick-fil-A, and do not really care what their CEO's opinion is; so, I guess, if it's food driven and I like their food...I will go back!
Um, Chick-fil-A. ::drools::
ETA...these people do not have to work at Hobby Lobby if they don't agree with their policies. I'm just sayin'.
No, it plays no part in my shopping habits.
BTW... for all my crafting supplies, I get as much as I can at Jo-Ann's because they take multiple coupons plus competitor's coupons, FWIW.
However, ehile I do not agree with chickfila's gay marriage stance, I do think they have the right to this opinion. They don't exclude gay people from working there, etc. I also think they treat their employees really well.
Regarding hobby lobby, again, I believe in birth control, but I also support the company's right to not include it in part of their insurance plan if it was for contraception purposes; I do think they should include it for other issues that it is prescribed for. If they whole heartily don't believe in contraception, I don't blame them for not wanting to assist/pay for its coverage. I would have an issue if they prohibited their employees from taking it, however.
The only stores I will not buy things in are pet stores who sell animals. I also wouldn't eat at KFC after that whole scandal where the employees were videotaped abusing the chickens, but I never ate there anyway, so it's kind of a moot point. We don't have any Chick-fil-A's around here.
I do try to avoid Hobby Lobby and Wal-Mart. It annoys me that HL is closed Sundays and the people who work there are pretty weird- I always see this one car whenever I'm there, and it has bumper stickers all over it about how marriage should be between a man and women, etc. Also, one of the cashiers was really rude to a friend of mine not too long ago, but what made it even worse was when she went back to buy more of the same thing (mason jars), and the same cashier told her a story about someone else who bought a bunch of mason jars, and it was the story about her! Helloooooo!
Agreed. I love chickfila and personally believe in what they stand for. Also, if an employee doesn't agree with the company's beliefs, then leave? I'm not saying I agree with their health plan but there are plenty other minimum wage jobs out there.
I agree with all of this!
I tend not to shop at place that I feel treat their employees negatively or like people have mentioned, pet stores that treat animals inhumanely.
As far as Hobby Lobby, I feel that they have a right to run their business according to their beliefs. They don't force their beliefs on me and until the Obama Care issue came up they weren't actively crusading to get contraceptives off the insurance of every business place. They just do what they feel is right for the type of business they decided to establish. If I need something from there I will buy it. They pay their employees well and are very charitable from what I have researched. Employees know going into the job the companies stance of religion, birth control, etc.
I'm not particularly religious, and I am very independent political wise. I do think however if you as a person feel extremely strongly about a certain issue it is absolutely your right to not shop there as a way of protest.
So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?
Same for me on all of this. To go further i don't purchase products that participate in animal testing either. Which usually means I spend more money on everything but it is well worth it in my eyes.
I can get on board with you sleepy, but then 'Merica needs to not allow private companies or institutions...socialization will need to be mandatory. And while I think that's a fabulous idea, 'Merica cannot get behind being so liberal. So, until we collectively agree that we should be run differently, we allow companies and other institutions to be private and make their own rules.
Sleepy for President! Amjoy for VP!
Well, that's the end result of my logical train, obv. I think unfortunately it will have to reach a situation like that before people are actually willing to take a risk on real nationalization of health care.
Ok good, I was just about to say I am confused...
Oh and also, health insurance should not be dictated by your job. That is all.
Now it makes sense on why so many older people work there. I did not know this about the BC. Everyone in this country gets to live by their own beliefs. Just because I don't believe what they do doesn't mean I won't shop in their stores.
And I love me some Chick-fil-a.
That being said, it wouldn't make a difference. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I support that. I will not push my beliefs on anyone.
My personal opinion on this that they will sell a pet to ANYONE; they don't do a background check or any research on who they giving this pet to.
That is definitely interesting. I do know for a fact that the small business pet stores I was referring to did NOT treat their animals badly like you talked about above. I suppose some of the large chains could very well treat their animals like you said above, but I just wouldn't know for certain. Whereas the stores where I knew the owners and how they treated their animals I knew for sure. You know? Also, my family didn't shop at the chain stores because they sold pet medicine that my dad also sold for cheap and often times with no prescription and without much regulation. So, he never liked them. Again, I'm sure not all but there are some.
This is a good point.
I was like, how the heck is there someone here from Topeka that I've never seen before?? Then I realized you're November. Hi! I work in Topeka, live in Lawrence. And I hate the Phelps, obv.
haha Hi!! I got bored in November and came over here. Your guys' HTT are always interesting to read
Oh boy!
Ok, for me there is a big difference between not caring what the business owner thinks and not caring if the business owner uses their money and power to contribute to political campaigns and organizations that I am morally opposed to. Chick Fil A has given a LOT of money to organizations that are anti-gay and pro 'gay conversion'. I find it disgusting and I won't patronize their store. Is their management free to think whatever they want? Sure. But when they so blatantly use their money to support politics I don't agree with, I'll reserve my right not to do business with them. It works both ways.
As for your last sentence, it's hard to flame something that has absolutely no substance or depth. Expound a little bit, I'm sure I'll find a way.
Ditto this!
I should clarify. I don't shop at pet stores that sell animals that can be easily adopted here in NYC. Which are Rabbits, dogs, and cats. There are too many of these animals that are homeless and no one should be buying them. Fish, lizards, etc I'm ok with since it is not something you can rarely get at a shelter.