July 2012 Moms

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Re: FFFC

  • imageJennMM:

    My FFFC is that we should drop the FF and just call it FC because it's obviously not FF and it never has been.

    True dat!  (kickin' it 90's style)




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  • imagemightybee:

    nese: You are most definitely not a failure! You show your love for E in many, wonderful ways. It doesn't have to be a birthday party or pinterest recipe. (I know you probably know this, but sometimes it's nice to hear it from others, too).

    I feel this way sometimes, too. Since becoming a mom, I never really feel like I'm on my "A game." I feel like I'm constantly juggling baby stuff, house stuff, work stuff, husband stuff, me stuff, when before it was much easier to keep different parts of my life separate and managed, if that makes sense. Sure, things have gotten easier over the past year, but I thought I'd have more of a hold on everything by now. Really, I just think there aren't enough hours in the day to do all of the things we really need/want to do and I am slowly learning to accept this.

    Thanks! 

    I guess the flamefull part of it for me is that if I were to spend my bumping time on other house things like crafting, cleaning, baking I would be able to get a whole lot done. But I choose to bump or watch tv at naps.  I'm awful. Dont hate me. 

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  • I'm trying to trim the quote tree.

    I dont think Pegleg is trying to be cruel or will say stuff like that to Evie once she fully understands what is being said. I think at this point in life she is joking to take some of the pressure off. These kids can be downright awful sometimes. Some of us need to make fun of it so we dont have a heart attack. 

    I was called every name in the book by my parents. I believe the first time I wore red lipstick at 17 I was called a whore. Not in a fun way. I do make fun of Emery all the time! I have to. I would have a stroke from the stress if I didnt. Will I call her stupid or whore or worthless? No. But will I say hay crazy cakes, knock it off? Yes.  

    I just think at 1 we are being a little extreme. I know its like a gateway, but Pegleg is a smart laide and I have no doubt in my mind she would never make Evie feel less than.  

     

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    imagelada85:
    This past month and a half separated from H has been glorious. I haven't been this happy in....I can't even remember. I love spending all my time with LO and not having to worry about what argument would happen every night.

    This makes me happy then too. I wondered how you were doing but feel weird coming out and asking.  I'm am so glad you took the step to take your life back. 

    I've wondered too, but didn't want to bring it up just in case.  I'm so glad you're happy! 



    Thank you! I love that I have you ladies.
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  • imagejfresh:
    Lada that's great to hear that things are going well!

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    Lada that's great to hear that things are going well!

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    imagehijoi:
    It made me so sad to read what some ladies call their children. It reminds me of the women I see in Walmart who curse out their five year olds for acting like five year olds.

    I don't judge anyone for what they say to their own child, but it broke my heart and reminded me of my childhood and why I hated myself for so many years.


    I participated in that thread and thought calling k a jerk was harsh. I was honestly shocked at peg calling her baby fatass. That kind of stung. I dont know why, shes not my kid. It just bothered me.

     

    I have to agree with this.  I was particularly taken aback when someone mentioned that they call their LO stupid, I thought that was pretty harsh.

    Jessie, I am no therapist, but I remember you saying you body image issues (?), I imagine that struck a chord with you.

    I also don't remember anyone calling their kid stupid... And I think a lot of this is done based on how you say it to your child. If you have a 4 year old you call stupid, it's going to do some damage... if you have an 11 year old and you say "that was a stupid thing you did" those are 2 completely different things, and I think all of it needs to be taken in context.

     

    Peg, I like you, I really do and I think you have a great sense of humor so I may have taken it the wrong way but I didn't want to call you out for it which is why I said "someone" but if you refer to your "Megs and other baby haters" post, that is where "stupid" came from.  Sorry, but I'm obviously PMSing or something so this may or may not have made any sense.



    You're right I did say I call my kid stupid. I didn't remember that. And if you (or someone else) don't like it, don't do it! We have a sense of humor here. It's funny, it's not true. I actually think she's pretty friggin smart. But you know what? She's 11 months old... and doesn't know. If I was calling me 4 year old stupid repeatedly I might understand someone saying yeah that's too bad for the kid. But at this point it's a matter of personal opinion. Just like some people don't want their kid to have any sugar, where some think it's ok for their kid to taste sugar every now and then. Just like some want to turn their kid ffing at 1 year rather than 2 or later. Just like some want a medicated child birth and some want unmedicated.

    You don't agree, accepted. To say it's poor parenting is YOUR opinion.

    I just think it's pretty crappy for Joi to say "this is sad to me" when she says she favors one child over the other.

    I never said it was poor parenting.  I said that I was taken aback and that I thought it was harsh.

    This whole conversation is stupid. Everyone sucks, nobody is perfect end of story.
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  • It drives me crazy when ladies make confessions about something their kid ate this week, like a hamburger or french fry.  Is that really confession worthy? My kids eat that every week and I have never felt guilty about it. Not once.

    We are a fit, active family and I am a firm believer that exercise (in addition to a moderate diet) is the key to maintaining a healthy weight. So giving my kids hamburger or a chicken nugget or something does not seem flame worthy.  

    Oh and another confession that is on a similar topic:
    All the diet and weight loss programs out there are driving me crazy! My facebook newsfeed is covered in people trying to promote and sell herbalife and shakeology and such.  They then make comments about you don't even need to exercise, just drink special shakes.  I get kind of mad and just want to say GET OFF YOUR AZZ and exercise and eat healthy and you wont need to spend hundreds of dollars on fancy protein shakes!
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  • imagemrsmckinky:
    It has really been starting to bother me that Dex won't call me mama.nbsp; He was doing it for a little while, but only when he was really upset...now, he's just stopped.nbsp; He calls DH dada, and he is SUCH a daddy's boy.nbsp; He looks just like him, and if DH is home, there is no one in the room but him.nbsp; I feel like ever since I weaned, I'm no longer useful to him I know that's not true, but it just seems that way sometimes.nbsp;


    Rylan is the same way. When DH gets home, he just screams Dada and tries to jump out of my arms. It makes DHs day but inside it breaks my heart. Hes never away from me long enough to miss me. Its hard not to let it bother you...
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  • Ok.  I am going to address this issue of hating your kid.  I don't hate my kid.  Peg doesn't hate her kid.  I imagine she doesn't go around taunting her daughter and being terrible.  She is real.  I am real.  My "grinds your gears" post was saying that i can't stand that moms can't be real.  To me real is not going around in Walmart and saying terrible, horrible abusive things to my child.  I would NEVER do that.  By real I mean saying your kid is a "jerk" when they are.  Are they really? No they are a freaking baby!  Babies aren't jerks, but sometimes they are whiny and sad and crying and throwing food and you have a bad day and say to your husband "he was a real jerk today".

    When Peg then wrote a post saying, "megs and other baby haters" she was being quirky, tongue and cheek.  I don't hate babies.  I definitely don't hate mine. I imagine she doesn't since she is having another one any second.   

    I have a problem when mothers get their panties in a whirl when other mother's are real.  You either have an easy child or have the patience of a saint.  Good for you!  I wish I had more patience, but I don't.  I have terrible, hard days sometimes and say what a pita this kid is!  Because he is sometimes.  I call a spade a spade.   

    One more thing.  I also come here to vent so people hear a lot of negatives.  I don't come on and say, "i love my kid, he is so cute, he is funny" but i do all the time.  I also give him about 1,000 kisses and hugs a day.  So, no one needs to feel sad for my baby or anyone else's on here that are truthful and raw about their life. 

    ETA: I don't think I was brought up, but since I started it the other day I just wanted to write what I thought.  Now, I need to go shopping for my baby's fiesta 

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  • imageJennMM:

    imagereinedecajun:
    This whole conversation is stupid. Everyone sucks, nobody is perfect end of story.

    You just burst my bubbleCrying. Damn, I thought I had perfect down

    lol!
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  • imagejfresh:
    I am eating a stale panera bagel that I had to stop a coworker from throwing away. It's just too good not to eat.

    We just hired a girl who is a hot mess. She doesn't wear makeup, throws her hair in a messy bun, and her clothes are very rumpled and ill fitting. I don't judge her for it, I LOVE her for it because standing next to her I feel so put together and chic.

    I had pizza for breakfast and now after this bagel I'll have to eat only fruits and veggies worth zero points the rest of the day. I don't even care, worth it!


    Its almost like having that ugly friend that makes you look like a Kardashian when you go out together. I actually may be that friend to some... who knows! Ha!
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  • I think Megs said it perfectly. We all have moments where our kids are jerks. I cant get a shower without my kid turning into a monster tearing everything up from toilet paper to whatever else he can find. It is what it is.

    My FC.. Im being passive aggressive to a friend of mine on fb. She has a kid who isnt even one and is FF in the car. To each their own but come on. Turning him at 7 months is dangerous. She also isnt allowing him to nap anymore in hopes he will STTN. Poor kid is probably exhausted.
    Oh. And I had a Little Debbie cake and diet coke for breakfast. My kid had homemade blueberry pancakes. I suck at eating good.
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  • imagedaniellesa1220:
    imagemegs52881:

     

    I know that all the ladies on this board are AMAZING and incredible moms and love their kids more than their own lives, no doubt about it.  I'm just full of emotions today that are jumbled up because of stress at work and lack of sleep and the fact that we are probably going to visit my MIL tomorrow and I am DREADING it Angry that woman has been getting on my nerves and I'm not sure how much more of it I can take!!

    No one hates you! Its ok! You need a hug. I can feel it. (((((((hug)))))))) 

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  • Emery runs around in pretty much a diaper only every day. I thought never in a million years would I do that. Alas, here we are. She is impossible to get a diaper on now let alone pants. 

     

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  • imagenellrose:
    I think submitting a false expense report for personal gain and blatantly lying about it cannot be justified by any number of reasons.
    To me its the same as pocketing a 20 out of petty cash, or helping yourself to store stock because "you work hard enough and deserve it" or "they don't pay me enough" [I've heard both of those amazingly enough].

    I also think there's a line between putting your kid in his place and putting your kid down. That line is often way too blurred [not saying J12, just commenting on the general issue].

    Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go have some coffee and get off my soapbox for the day.


    I don't think I need justification for it. No excuses required, just is what it is and I don't feel bad about it.
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  • imagenellrose:
    imagebreannie:
    imagenellrose:
    I think submitting a false expense report for personal gain and blatantly lying about it cannot be justified by any number of reasons.
    To me its the same as pocketing a 20 out of petty cash, or helping yourself to store stock because "you work hard enough and deserve it" or "they don't pay me enough" [I've heard both of those amazingly enough].

    I also think there's a line between putting your kid in his place and putting your kid down. That line is often way too blurred [not saying J12, just commenting on the general issue].

    Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go have some coffee and get off my soapbox for the day.


    I don't think I need justification for it. No excuses required, just is what it is and I don't feel bad about it.


    ::shrugs:: Good for you


    Thanks! I promise I'll think really hard about what I've done while I'm at the beach on Sunday.
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  • imagenellrose:
    imagebreannie:
    Thanks! I promise I'll think really hard about what I've done while I'm at the beach on Sunday.
    Nah, what's the point. You deserve it.

    That is so sweet of you to think so.

    Like I said...I don't think I need to justify it or come up with excuses. But at least you have set the ethics bar really high and I have something to work towards, so thanks for that. 

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  • imagebellaxanthe:

    Nese you have to understand, I don't have everything together.  I hang on by a thread some days.  I couldn't be a SAHM because I would run out of ways to entertain C. I make a priority of doing some crafty stuff but other parts of who I am are just gone right now. I have had to prioritize somehow and hope that someday those parts will come back.  I was a huge avid biker but have yet to get on my bike since last year. I haven't gone to a concert in eons.  Marriage isn't super passionate right now. But   It's just balancing what you can.  I have never ever thought you weren't crafty.  In fact I get a little inspired by all the places you take Emery and keep telling myself I need to be more like you in that capacity.  Truly! 

    Wow really? Thanks! And I'm sure as these kids get older other parts will fall back into place. Its a huge life change and overhaul. I just am truly in aw of some of you.  

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    I feel like a SAHM failure.

    EX: RTaylor's Taylor's birthday party with all the home made goodies and how hard she worked to show her daughter love that day, and then I think she works on top of that, I'm like... Whoa I suck. Same goes for StokedWifey and Bella, and a bunch of other ladies on here that arent coming to mind for because I havent had coffee yet. 

    I'm not crafty, I cook dinner and thats about it, I dont bake, I dont ever make pinterest projects, My house is usually clean 60% of the time, I shop a lot and dont budget really, and if given the choice to buy or make something I would probably buy it 95% of the time.

    Disclaimer: I in no way judge what other SAHM's do or are doing, I'm judging myself only.  I'm simply in aw of some of you wonderful full time working mommas!

    I am this 100% too! Totally in awe of many of you ladies on here!

    ETA: Minus the SAHM part, of course.

    Oh man you guys. I am definitely not the do-it-all mom that her bday party would lead you to believe. Like I said on the AW post I made, I got super carried away and initially my intentions were to buy some dollar store decorations in all different colors, kinda rainbow-ey, make a rainbow swirl cake (which was going to be my only "big crafty" thing) and serve some chips and a veggie tray. Then I saw tons of rainbow stuff while shopping and one thing lead to another. Also, my job (which is only 30-32 hrs a week, I have 3 days off) consists of helping customers every once and a while. In between doing that I sit and toil away the house online. Planning her party killed some major time, I'm sad it's over b/c I'm bored at wok now. I don't do anything Pinterest-y on a regular basis. Right now it's past noon and I haven't brushed my teeth or done any chores. I'm watching Americas Next Top model reruns in the PJs I woke up in. I never want to feel like "that mom" who people have to live up to. Half the time I feel the same way about other people here on J12, and the only reason I even AWed her party in the first place was because I was in shock of what I pulled off. I NEVER do that kind of stuff.

    Also, FFFC is a little ridic today. Did that many people take the "ppl who hate babies" thread that literally? It's not like Peg is screaming in Evie's face, "I hate you stupid fatass." Really you guys? Take a pill.

  • imagenesenotes:
    imagebellaxanthe:

    Nese you have to understand, I don't have everything together.  I hang on by a thread some days.  I couldn't be a SAHM because I would run out of ways to entertain C. I make a priority of doing some crafty stuff but other parts of who I am are just gone right now. I have had to prioritize somehow and hope that someday those parts will come back.  I was a huge avid biker but have yet to get on my bike since last year. I haven't gone to a concert in eons.  Marriage isn't super passionate right now. But   It's just balancing what you can.  I have never ever thought you weren't crafty.  In fact I get a little inspired by all the places you take Emery and keep telling myself I need to be more like you in that capacity.  Truly! 

    Wow really? Thanks! And I'm sure as these kids get older other parts will fall back into place. Its a huge life change and overhaul. I just am truly in aw of some of you.  

    I agree w/ this Nese!! You've taken Emery to the beach, Gymboree all the time, amusement parks, etc. Taylor would love Emery's life! LOL.

  • FFFC to many people on this board have their panties in a wad 24/7's over how other people raise their kids!
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  • imagehijoi:
    Ok last time. I was sad FOR ME because it reminded ME of MY childhood. I was not sad for your kids, I was not sad for you. I do not think that using or not using unflattering words makes you a better mom, a crap mom, or a mediocre mom. It makes you human. Life is not perfect. If you think it is, you need to pull your head out of that unicorn's azz. And now I'm done.

    Your feelings are totally your own and valid. 

    I didn't read your post as being judgey about the other moms, just sharing how you felt. 

    Both "sides" can be correct on this.  That's the wonder of personal opinions, beliefs, experiences and life in general.

     

    My $.02 - I read everything on here in the context of a *** session between girls.  I figure better we have a chance to vent here about the tiny terrorists at home then tell them about it.  

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    If formula were cheaper, I would consider switching from BFing to FFing when I return to work after the baby. But alas I already own a pump and should really use it. But I will not be afraid to supplement when needed!

    This will be me for baby #2.  I'll BF and pump at work, but I'm not going to fight supplementing nearly as hard as I did this time.   The amount of stress and anxiety that has been lifted from me since I quit the pump last month has been unbelievable.  I'm sooo much happier and that's got to be better for E.

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  • imagenesenotes:
    I feel like a SAHM failure.EX: RTaylor's Taylor's birthday party with all the home made goodies and how hard she worked to show her daughter love that day, and then I think she works on top of that, I'm like... Whoa I suck. Same goes for StokedWifey and Bella, and a bunch of other ladies on here that arent coming to mind for because I havent had coffee yet.nbsp;I'm not crafty, I cook dinner and thats about it, I dont bake, I dont ever make pinterest projects, My house is usually clean 60 of the time, I shop a lot and dont budget really, and if given the choice to buy or make something I would probably buy it 95 of the time. Disclaimer: I in no way judge what other SAHM's do or are doing, I'm judging myself only. nbsp;I'm simply in aw of some of you wonderful full time working mommas!


    Nesse I SAH and I'm the same as you are. Not crafty, don't bake and don't even cook huge dinners! I mean I probably cook 5 out of 7 nights per week but we do pizza and pasta at least once and usually go out once. Oh and my house is generally clean but cluttered. And no budgeting or couponing here. You are not alone!!
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  • imageSunshineLady6:

    imagenellrose:
    imageMeow84:
    She does deserve it. She works her assss off and is fabulous at what she does. Maybe it is not "morally correct" but I don't think the company will miss the extra hundred bucks for a hotel stay. Not all of us can be Mother Theresas [or at least pretend to be].
    Sure. To quote Breannie, "it is what it is".

     

    I work my assss off too, but I don't steal from my company. Which is what this is.

    Oh jeez. Seriously?

    Not that I need to justify myself to anyone because I know I am not stealing and I know it is not NEARLY as big of a deal as this is being made out to be....HOWEVER flights back Saturday were more expensive then Sunday anyway. Because I am meeting family I do not have to expense cab rides to and from the airport.  I also got up at 3:00 this morning and drove myself to the airport instead of expensing a car service (which is allowed by my company).  All of this more than makes up for the $ of the extra hotel night, and my starbucks coffee and sandwich on Sunday.

    So thanks for all the judgement about stealing everyone, but maybe you should know what you are talking about first before jumping to conclusions and questioning my morals.

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  • imagenellrose:
    imagebreannie:
    imageSunshineLady6:

    I work my assss off too, but I don't steal from my company. Which is what this is.

    Oh jeez. Seriously?

    Not that I need to justify myself to anyone because I know I am not stealing and I know it is not NEARLY as big of a deal as this is being made out to be....HOWEVER flights back Saturday were more expensive then Sunday anyway. Because I am meeting family I do not have to expense cab rides to and from the airport.  I also got up at 3:00 this morning and drove myself to the airport instead of expensing a car service (which is allowed by my company).  All of this more than makes up for the $ of the extra hotel night, and my starbucks coffee and sandwich on Sunday.

    So thanks for all the judgement about stealing everyone, but maybe you should know what you are talking about first before jumping to conclusions and questioning my morals.

    Oh no. I've been told. I do indeed not know your lyfe. Thank you for educating me.

    Soooo dramatic. Why the need?

    You have not been told. Im not crying that you don't know my lyfe.  I added some more details about the situation to address that you and sunshine may have jumped to conclusions without all of the information about my "stealing".

    Why do we so quickly have to jump from some dumb "FF"FC to this nonsense? Its so ridculous! IOther people saw the fun in it, I don't know what you get from pointing out that you are such a better person than me morally. I just don't get it. Especially when you are just wrong.

     

     

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  • imagebreannie:

    Oh jeez. Seriously?

    Not that I need to justify myself to anyone because I know I am not stealing and I know it is not NEARLY as big of a deal as this is being made out to be....HOWEVER flights back Saturday were more expensive then Sunday anyway. Because I am meeting family I do not have to expense cab rides to and from the airport.  I also got up at 3:00 this morning and drove myself to the airport instead of expensing a car service (which is allowed by my company).  All of this more than makes up for the $ of the extra hotel night, and my starbucks coffee and sandwich on Sunday.

    So thanks for all the judgement about stealing everyone, but maybe you should know what you are talking about first before jumping to conclusions and questioning my morals.

    FTR, I'm on your side and would do the same thing as you given the circumstances.  BUT, come on.  You HAD to know at least a few people would have this opinion.  At least a *tiny* bit of you had to think there was a *tiny* bit wrong with this, or you wouldn't have deemed it anything worthy of CONFESSING to begin with!  

    It amazes me the was "confessions" work around here... Maybe we need to post the definition each week? 

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  • imageSallySunrise:
    imagebreannie:

    Oh jeez. Seriously?

    Not that I need to justify myself to anyone because I know I am not stealing and I know it is not NEARLY as big of a deal as this is being made out to be....HOWEVER flights back Saturday were more expensive then Sunday anyway. Because I am meeting family I do not have to expense cab rides to and from the airport.  I also got up at 3:00 this morning and drove myself to the airport instead of expensing a car service (which is allowed by my company).  All of this more than makes up for the $ of the extra hotel night, and my starbucks coffee and sandwich on Sunday.

    So thanks for all the judgement about stealing everyone, but maybe you should know what you are talking about first before jumping to conclusions and questioning my morals.

    FTR, I'm on your side and would do the same thing as you given the circumstances.  BUT, come on.  You HAD to know at least a few people would have this opinion.  At least a *tiny* bit of you had to think there was a *tiny* bit wrong with this, or you wouldn't have deemed it anything worthy of CONFESSING to begin with!  

    It amazes me the was "confessions" work around here... Maybe we need to post the definition each week? 

    It's wrong to lie to my job. Agreed. Slap my hand with a ruler. To jump to that I am stealing and that my morals are wrong, thats just silly and no I really didn't think it would go down this road. 

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  • imagePaddyB:
    imagebreannie:
    imagenellrose:
    imagebreannie:
    imageSunshineLady6:

    I work my assss off too, but I don't steal from my company. Which is what this is.

    Oh jeez. Seriously?

    Not that I need to justify myself to anyone because I know I am not stealing and I know it is not NEARLY as big of a deal as this is being made out to be....HOWEVER flights back Saturday were more expensive then Sunday anyway. Because I am meeting family I do not have to expense cab rides to and from the airport.  I also got up at 3:00 this morning and drove myself to the airport instead of expensing a car service (which is allowed by my company).  All of this more than makes up for the $ of the extra hotel night, and my starbucks coffee and sandwich on Sunday.

    So thanks for all the judgement about stealing everyone, but maybe you should know what you are talking about first before jumping to conclusions and questioning my morals.

    Oh no. I've been told. I do indeed not know your lyfe. Thank you for educating me.

    Soooo dramatic. Why the need?

    You have not been told. Im not crying that you don't know my lyfe.  I added some more details about the situation to address that you and sunshine may have jumped to conclusions without all of the information about my "stealing".

    Why do we so quickly have to jump from some dumb "FF"FC to this nonsense? Its so ridculous! IOther people saw the fun in it, I don't know what you get from pointing out that you are such a better person than me morally. I just don't get it. Especially when you are just wrong.

    She is not wrong.  From a moral, legal, and ethical standpoint, just becuase your company was willing to pay for additional things that you are not taking advantage of, does not mean that lying to receive a benefit that you will take advantage of is ok.

    The ethical way to have handled your situation would have been to ask if it was ok to fly back on Sunday, particularly in light of the fact that flights are cheaper and pay for the additional night  in the hotel yourself.  That is not what you did.

    Yes. I understand the situation. But thank you for spelling it out for me again.

    I didn't say there was nothing wrong with the situation, as Sally pointed out, that is why it was a confession. I personally didn't view it as stealing from the company. Thats just my opinion.

    Everyone is going to call it what they want, but it just seems a little hard to believe that the people who are calling me out are ethical 100% of the time. ETA: and not just because of who it is, but because no one is ethical 100% of the time.

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    This is hilarious!  I was doing fine until the earring, then lost it laughing! 

    That is exactly the part that got me too!

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  • I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.
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    I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.
    There will always be double standards and the inability to get over things. Wouldn't this place be so boring without?
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  • imagecwm11985:
    I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.

     I actually dont steal from there anymore. After I wrote it, I got better about checking under the diaper bag and have actually been incident free since then.  Not that anyone gives a shiit. I know my truths!

    But thanks for bringing me into it.  

    ETA: AAAAAAAAAAANNNNNDDDDD I owned it and called it what it was, STEALING. I never said I deserved it. 

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    imagecwm11985:
    I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.

     I actually dont steal from there anymore. After I wrote it, I got better about checking under the diaper bag and have actually been incident free since then.  Not that anyone gives a shiit. I know my truths!

    But thanks for bringing me into it.  

     

    I am glad you don't anymore, but that wasn't why I said anything about it.  I brought it up because that day you confessed it a lot of people commented that it was NBD.  Its the same principle as what is going on today- there is no difference so my only question was why was it being treated differently. I wasn't trying to drag you into it, if I was I would have used your name.  I purposely left out a name because I figured most people had forgotten who even said it.  You kind of brought yourself into it with this post.  At any rate, I wasn't trying to make you mad I was honestly questioning the double standard.  And MelRC, just stfu. Do you ever say anything helpful or nice? Or do you just pop in for the drama?

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  • imagecwm11985:
    I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.

    Just speculating, but I imagine it's because the same people who flamed nese are the people standing up for breannie. I don't GAF who steals what, but it's funny how opinions on the matter seem to change based upon who people are friends with.

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    imagecwm11985:
    I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.

    Just speculating, but I imagine it's because the same people who flamed nese are the people standing up for breannie. I don't GAF who steals what, but it's funny how opinions on the matter seem to change based upon who people are friends with.

     

    Could be.  I am not expressing my opinion either way, nor have I in this thread, I was just posing the question for everyone out there. 

     

     

    ETA: I take that back.  I did call her a genius.  I will retract everything that I'VE said, but I still want to leave the double standard idea out there. 

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  • imagecwm11985:
    I want to know why it was acceptable that one of us regularly steals from target but Breannes situation is being flamed so much. Double standards J12. Get a grip and get over it.

    Funny - my memory of that event is that Nese was flamed to hell.  

    See - perceptions are funny things.  Seems to me the support/flaming split has been about the same on both of those things.   

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