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Judgement Thursday
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Re: Judgement Thursday
And still waiting. Cause its the only thing you can actually provide proof for or against. The other points are a matter of opinion, and my opinion is that the person who stated them is an a-hole.
"We like nothing better than buffing our Zygoma. And imagining a horny time traveling long overcoat purple scarf wearing super sleuth nordic legend fuck fantasy. Get to work on that, internet." Benedict Cumberbatch
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I guess you are going to wait all day. As I have said this is my personal experience. I am open-minded on the subject. So if you have stats/facts/unbiased reliable information, then it would certainly be food for thought (no pun intended)
So now you are stating a fact about tattoos. I'm confused, mine is wrong but yours is right because you are stating it. I will agree that world is less conservative when it comes to piercings, tattoos, etc. But I won't agree that having uncoverable tattoos doesn't limit your job choices. Maybe not as much as it did once (which I'm all for).
I didn't say I haven't ever lost my cool--I just don't yell and swear at my kids in public. Thanks for the win! I do walk them quickly out of the store, sometimes in quite the rush.
Yes I'm using anecdotal evidence--that is what opinions are based on. I forgot, what evidence is it that you are using? Oh that's right, you are using your opinion, unless I missed where you are backing up your side with sources. As I have said, because it's anecdotal and my opinion, I have an open mind and would love someone to post stat/unbiased reliable information on the subject. Otherwise I have never said it wasn't my opinion, just as yours is your opinion
In criminal defense, you are less likely to come across honest people. For starters, you work with lawyers. Secondly, there are your clients. Working with a less than honest segment of society hardly qualifies you to judge the welfare system based on personal anecdotes.
Here is something I found today. It only has a few stats regarding welfare qualifications, but since I have it right now...
As Alabama Cuts Benefits, Desperate Man ?Robs? Bank To Get Food, Shelter In Jail
By Scott Keyes on Jul 11, 2013 at 12:45 pm
Rickie Lawrence Gardner
Rickie Lawrence Gardner, a 49-year-old man from the small town of Moulton, Alabama, entered Bank Independent on Monday and handed the teller a note saying he had a gun and to hand over the bank?s money. After the employee complied, Gardner took the bag of cash, walked outside, and locked it in his car. He then sat on a bench in front of the bank and waited for police officers to arrive.
?When officers got there, he did not offer any kind of resistance. He was just waiting on them,? Moulton Police Chief Lyndon McWhorter said. ?His is the first bank robbery I?ve ever worked where the robber was waiting outside the bank for the police to turn himself in.?
What drove Gardner to such a drastic measure? He was on the cusp of losing his job because a leg injury put him in so much pain that it prevented him from working. Facing possible homelessness, jail was a preferable option in his mind. And he wasn?t looking for just a short stay. Despite his note, Gardner wasn?t even carrying a gun when he committed the robbery; he?d only mentioned it in the note, according to the AP, ?because he thought it would get him a longer sentence.?
As heartbreaking as it is that a poor American might think that giving up his own freedom is his best hope for survival, there are many reasons why someone might hold that view. Indeed, Alabama has one of the worst social safety nets of any state in the country. It has one of the stingiest maximum TANF benefits, formerly known as welfare, at just $190 per month for a family of two. In other words, even if Gardner had a child and were receiving $190 per month, that would still leave him 85 percent lower than the federal poverty line of $14,710.
Alabama lawmakers have also made it increasingly difficult for poor residents like Gardner to receive health care. Though some Republican governors in states like Arizona and Ohio have embraced Obamacare?s expansion of Medicaid to cover poor citizens, Alabama has steadfastly opposed doing so, despite the fact that it?s fully funded by the federal government for the first three years. As a result, hundreds of thousands of low-income individuals won?t receive health care. Even without the Medicaid expansion, it?s already incredibly difficult to be eligible in Alabama. A single adult, like Gardner, who makes more than $1,332 per year is considered too wealthy to qualify for Medicaid in Alabama.
Perhaps most tragic about Gardner?s saga is that even if he gets his wish and winds up in prison, Alabama?s incarceration system is severely overcrowded and underfunded. Because it draws its funding largely from the General Fund, state lawmakers? budget-cutting zeal could produce shortfalls in prison funding. As a result, Chris Sanders, a policy analyst at the public interest group Arise Citizens? Policy Project, notes that Gardner could be entering ?a system that runs at nearly double its designed capacity and that many people long have believed to be teetering on the brink of a federal takeover.?
So for those of you who think people WANT to live this way, maybe broaden your horizons and pull your heads out your asses.
"We like nothing better than buffing our Zygoma. And imagining a horny time traveling long overcoat purple scarf wearing super sleuth nordic legend fuck fantasy. Get to work on that, internet." Benedict Cumberbatch
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Actually you've got me there. I don't know, maybe she is feeding her kids crap because that is what she can afford and she is not eating....maybe. But it's not judgement if you know their entire life story and background, and where's the fun in that? Everyone has something they judge about--whether it be the way someone dresses, what someone eats, the color of someone's hair etc. If you don't judge at all--then you win. My only super power --as mentioned above--is being able to keep from yelling and screaming at my kids in public. So on a judgement thread, I have comented what I judge.
Me too! Especially the ones who act like the world's greatest parent and complain about others who go out 'all the time' on FB, yet are the ones going out every other weekend when their kids are at their dad's house.
I've went out once since my son was born, and even then came home early because I missed him.
I saw this and have to say that Alabama is CRAZY (there I judged).
However, most lawyers I have dealt with are pretty ethical despite the bad rap attorneys get in general. You are judging when you say that they are less then honest, right?
Yes I agree, my bias probably does have to do with dealing with the less then honest public. Obviously if you can kill a person, you can probably also cheat the system. It would be interesting to see if there was a relationship between criminal records and welfare assistance and if so, why that relationship exists.
I find welfare in general to be interesting, but only because I keep an open-mind on it. Sincerely, I believe we should tighten those who can get it. But give more to those who qualify. Obviously, what we really need is a system that would prevent the "lifers" and help those who are really in need and are really struggling and working to become self-supportive. I'm all for that.
But until that time....I'm going to continue to lock down the skittles :-)
Exactly, acting like super mom on FB and then posting pictures of yourself later out drinking and doing it multiple times a month is not cool. I don't care. Have a glass of wine at home and be there for your kids!
lolwhut?
So moms are supposed to stay at home when their kids aren't even at home?
For cereal?
When my kids are spending the night at my parents house, you best believe I'm getting out of the house and not sitting there crying in my processed food Cheerios that one of my kids isn't waking me up at 3 AM.
Unable to even.
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You don't understand the appeal of Benedict Cumberbatch / think he's fug / don't know who he is? WATCH SHERLOCK. Until you do, your negative opinion of him will not be taken seriously.
Yes, right after the first trimester, where most people are in the clear.
Thats when we told people because fear of miscarriage. It took me another month to tell my boss to get my long term sub ready. Kudos to you, did you throat punch him?
That doesn't make sense.
Same here...I get boxed foods like cereal...and yikes/gasp...crackers at Target or Wal-Mart and hit up Whole Foods or Sprouts for meat and produce...
Actually my statement was "it SEEMS...." Obviously, my opinion and not a fact. So the takeaway here is that we both have opinions (mine that welfare is milked by people gaming the system and the majority SEEM to be "lifers") and yours which is welfare only goes to those who truly need it and a minority game the system, right? So aren't people allowed to have differing opinions, I'm unsure of what your problem is? I understand you don't like my opinion, but you not liking it doesn't make it wrong. Or did I miss where I said we should stop all welfare.
I stated that the workforce is changing, so saying it absolutely limits choices isn't necessarily true. We disagree on this. You are stating your opinion and I have stated mine. Again, unless you have some facts to back this up, my opinion won't change. Having a tattoo, or lots of them, that can't be covered will limit your job choices. Obviously there are exceptions--butin general you are going to get side-eyed in the interview.
Clearly your choice. I don't have a problem with that being your choice. But if you are swearing, screaming, and yelling at your kids in public, I'm going to judge you. People are judged for their choices all the time. You, right now, are judging me for judging those people.
Some govt assistance programs give vouchers to farmers markets, as well. Juuust sayin.
LOL. Sorry your lives aren't fun. That's really too bad.
I kid. Kinda.
And now I'm judging you for buying an apple. Why don't you have time to grow your own? Also was it an organic apple because if not, then you should have just skipped it in the first place.
You guys, sometimes...I go out at night on weekdays. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SHlT?
But my husband has tattoos! They will totally take my kid!
I don't mind beating a dead horse...obviously they can't feel it. Below is on page three of this thread and what I originally said. Your quote is taken out of context because the very next sentence I say. IT SEEMS..... I guess I could have made it more clear that it's my opinion, but I thought that was a given when posting on a baby board. But I think I have restated several times now that it is my opinion
Also, while I'm not asserting a fact, we can't say it might not be what is factual, because in reality we don't know if it is or if it isn't. Just as we don't know if your opposite it fact--it actually might be and might not be.
"As for as judging what people on assistance buy or don't buy--yes I judge people who buy crap while on assistance--this includes designer bags, big screen TV's etc. Why? Because it's about choices. Yes some people are on assistance because they really need assistance have recently fallen on hard times (lost their job, divorced, medical problems, etc.) But that does not and is not the majority of people. The majority of people seem to be "lifers" and while assistance doesn't make you rich, you aren't doing anything to "earn" that money. So yes, I judge people who make bad choices such as the items noted above while on assistance. The who goal should be working to get off the assistance and be self-supportive."
I meant going out like drinking, bar hopping every single weekend your kids are gone and then posting your drunken escapades on FB. I can only think of one individual I know that does this every.single.weekend. her kids are gone.
Is it sad I almost feel jealous? Haha. I am in bed so early, I would cherish a night out, but Big Bang Theory and my sweats always call my name
Okay, but now I'm judging you for not being willingly to drive 4-6 hours to find a store with organic produce. I mean really--how can you raise a kid on the other crap, you know they are going to grow up to be a delinquent.
On another note--I also judge people who feed their kids trans fats. The kids have little choice about what they eat and new research suggest that trans fats don't ever leave the body.
I've got another-.
I judge moms who pierce their little girls ears at or near birth, yet I don't judge parents who circumcise their little boys.
Flame away. I'm also going out this weekend while my kid is with my husband...
HER.KIDS.ARE.GONE.
She doesn't have to stay home and do mom stuff. I would judge anyone who stays home every night her kid is gone and feels smug about it.
That doesn't make you a better mom. It makes you boring.
Unable to even.
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You don't understand the appeal of Benedict Cumberbatch / think he's fug / don't know who he is? WATCH SHERLOCK. Until you do, your negative opinion of him will not be taken seriously.
I judge people who have to go to another board to mock people whose opinions they disagree with.
I would rather have the debate on something then have to sink to name calling and the such.
Oh, and I'm calling out Ellahella posting on the parenting board.
I appreciate you posting stats, because I do realize that my opinion can be bias. I did takeaway from the stats that they were more about trafficking and not about people who stay on assistance just because they can. I'm really not sure how you would even go about conducting a study on that. But that is what I mean by "lifers", people who could find jobs etc. which would allow them to be self-supportive but don't do so.
I like your quote.
You should really go over to Parenting and post this. Really.
Like, really.
I have become pretty boring since becoming a mom I guess, I like to sleep when I can. LO likes to play at 1, 3 & get up at 5 am, so I'm tired. I'd just rather stay in and have a beer instead of going out and get wasted every weekend, it's just not for me anymore. You judge me, that's fine - that's what this post is for and I judged her since again, that's what this post is for.
Yeah, but you were so stressed out about my opinion that you had to do it on two separate boards. It actually makes me smile a bit to have gotten so much under your skin that instead of entering into the debate (which everyone else has) you had to resort to mocking me and name-calling. Calm down.