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    Our reception was dry but that's how we live so it wasn't a big deal.


    I think Mormons and Southern Baptists get a pass here. If you're going to a reception for either one and you think there will be alcohol, you're a silly goose who deserves your accidental sobriety.

    True. It's the reason flasks were invented.

    As I know no Mormons or Southern Baptists, I expect booze at weddings of all my heathen friends. 


    Most of the weddings I've been to are Catholic and they LOVE to drink!
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  • Cutting quote trees. Obviously I don't judge if the weather is dangerous to your or your child's health and safety. And I hope to get out when we have two but one never does know, do they?
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    imageScout2005:

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    Our reception was dry but that's how we live so it wasn't a big deal.


    I think Mormons and Southern Baptists get a pass here. If you're going to a reception for either one and you think there will be alcohol, you're a silly goose who deserves your accidental sobriety.

    True. It's the reason flasks were invented.

    As I know no Mormons or Southern Baptists, I expect booze at weddings of all my heathen friends. 


    Most of the weddings I've been to are Catholic and they LOVE to drink!
    Truth. I've been to a lot of Jewish weddings, and drinking is pretty much a requirement there.
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    I'm not a fan of the Kardashians at all. I don't get the hype.

    They make me want to vomit in my mouth.  

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  • Cutting trees as well:

    Christmas, Birthdays, and things of that nature: I don't expect a thank you.  If you thank me upon opening the gift that's fine with me.  Showers and weddings, I do expect a thank you.  I never wrote thank yous growing up except for when I got gifts at my high school graduation open house.  I sent my wedding ones out 5 months after the wedding (at least I did it), the showers ones right away, and any time someone gave DS a gift I sent them a thank you.  This is totally flameful, but I didn't for DS's baptism gifts.  DS was baptized not long before DH left so I had my hands full.  I apologized to family and they said they understood given the circumstances.



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  • I find college open houses tacky.  If you didn't get a high school open house, then maybe I would understand, but I'm not giving a college grad more than a card and maybe some alcohol.




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  • I had a dry wedding. Still love me? Our venue charged more if we planned on having alcohol plus we would have had to pay for a security guard. We got married at a museum and they don't take kindly to drunk people messing stuff up, hence the security guard. I worked at our church. My ILs teach at their church's school. 75% of our guest list were people from both churches (and no, not Mormon or Southern Baptist), so do the math. No one complained and my BIL, who was a groomsman, showed up drunk anyway.

    My UO: I don't think everything "environmentally-friendly" is better. They made the cover on Stouffers frozen meals thinner. Now instead of coming off easily, it shreds into these tiny shards of plastic film and you have to try to pick it all off so it won't go in your food. 

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    My UO is that I'm not a fan of private school. Even though growing up my family bordered on being upper middle class, I went to a public school that covered a very rich neighbourhood, some average ones and social housing. I had friends on income assistance and friends who had nannies and fancy houses. I got a great education. Having kids from all income levels going to the same school helps maintain a certain level of quality in the education, which is good for everyone. It also helps level the playing field a bit.

    I worked at a prestigious private school. There was still drugs, sex, provocative clothing, etc. It is the same scene as public school, just with fancier clothes and a superiority complex. 

    Of course I want the best for DD, but I also want the best for society. My kid's success shouldn't come at the cost, even indirectly, of another child who just happened to be born into poverty. 

    Yep, I'm a socialist. 

     

    My sister and I went to a private (Christian) school for a while. It was toxic and my parents pulled us out so fast, the principal's head spun.

    Is spun a word? It sounds funny. Spun.

     

     






     

  • Salty - I totally get the private school depending on where you live.  Some private schools are by nice public schools so I guess their reasoning is smaller schools.  We love our neighborhood, but the school system is terrible.  When DS is ready for elementary school, we will either move or send him to private school. 

    I work in a wealthy public school and you are so right.  Yes it's smaller, but we have problems too.  It's a close knit community so if you do drugs, but you're in good with administration it's fine.  No one enforces the dress code (I do within my own room) so there's no incentive to not dress like you're going clubbing.  The students' parents basically run my room - telling me what to teach and if they don't like, they alert administration. 



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  • imageSaltylove:

    My UO is that I'm not a fan of private school. Even though growing up my family bordered on being upper middle class, I went to a public school that covered a very rich neighbourhood, some average ones and social housing. I had friends on income assistance and friends who had nannies and fancy houses. I got a great education. Having kids from all income levels going to the same school helps maintain a certain level of quality in the education, which is good for everyone. It also helps level the playing field a bit.

    I worked at a prestigious private school. There was still drugs, sex, provocative clothing, etc. It is the same scene as public school, just with fancier clothes and a superiority complex. 

    Of course I want the best for DD, but I also want the best for society. My kid's success shouldn't come at the cost, even indirectly, of another child who just happened to be born into poverty. 

    Yep, I'm a socialist. 

     

    There will always be good and bad public schools and good and bad private schools.

    Not everyone sends their kids to private school as an attempt to shelter them from sex, drugs, and other related things. Many times private schools have more rigorous academics and smaller class size, which appeals to a lot of parents.

     

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    My UO is that I'm not a fan of private school. Even though growing up my family bordered on being upper middle class, I went to a public school that covered a very rich neighbourhood, some average ones and social housing. I had friends on income assistance and friends who had nannies and fancy houses. I got a great education. Having kids from all income levels going to the same school helps maintain a certain level of quality in the education, which is good for everyone. It also helps level the playing field a bit.I worked at a prestigious private school. There was still drugs, sex, provocative clothing, etc. It is the same scene as public school, just with fancier clothes and a superiority complex.nbsp;Of course I want the best for DD, but I also want the best for society. My kid's success shouldn't come at the cost, even indirectly, of another child who just happened to be born into poverty.nbsp;Yep, I'm a socialist.nbsp;nbsp;

    I went to private school, Catholic at that, from kindergarten through high school. I had friends who did drugs, I had sex at the age of 16, and the cheerleaders got away with wearing their uniform skirts so short your could see their butt cheeks. I wish I had gone to public school so that I could have had the opportunity to take more advanced level classes cuz my high school only had the money and resources for a few and the extracurricular clubs were minimal. When I got to college I had friends who were in photography clubs, forensics clubs, academic decathlon [which got canceled when I was in HS cuz the teacher who was supposed to head it quit], stuff like that. My sister and I both told our parents once we got to college that we wished we had gone to public school. Our parents had regrets once hearing our reasons, but they wholeheartedly thought they were giving us a better education by sending us to private school.

    I will send DS to public school unless he specifically asks for a private school education. The right private school may have the same opportunities as a public school now, but I would rather not have to take the chance.

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    There will always be good and bad public schools and good and bad private schools.

    Not everyone sends their kids to private school as an attempt to shelter them from sex, drugs, and other related things. Many times private schools have more rigorous academics and smaller class size, which appeals to a lot of parents.

     

    Smaller class size is really appealing in my mind. Our district made cuts last year that put our elementary school classes an average of 40 students! 40 students for ONE teacher! That is insane to me! How is anyone supposed to learn when they are just trying to max out classroom sizes to keep costs down? Oh and this all came during the same year they built an all new building for one of the alternative schools in the district that the superintendent came out and said had passed standards for the next 5 years. Ugh. Education in general seems flucked to me. 

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  • Maybe because I'm not a big drinker, but I think it's ridiculous for someone to refuse to go to a wedding because there isn't alcohol. You're supposed to be there to celebrate the couple, show them that you want to be there for this momentous moment in their life, etc...not for free alcohol. If that's what you're there for, your time would probably be better spent elsewhere.

    I'm 24 and I've never flown. I didn't travel outside the state until I was 14 on a class trip. I didn't travel by myself/without my mom until I was 19. My mom was essentially a single mom supporting three kids and a deadbeat husband. She worked 7am-7pm Monday-Friday and the last thing she had time (or money) for on the weekends was a trip out of state. She did her best and put us in activities and what not, but I don't think I missed out on anything.

    If we still live around here, G will absolutely be in a private school. The kids in Detroit Public Schools don't even have their own books and the teachers have an allotted amount of copies they're allowed to make per year. SO's LB was handwriting his worksheets onto lined paper from a projection on the board at the end of the school year, FFS.

    Here's my UO: Diaper raffles are extremely common in my area, along with planning your own shower. GASP. I had a diaper raffle, everyone expected me to have one, and everyone participated. We didn't have to buy any diapers for G until he was 4 months old. Say what you want, but that ish helped out immensely when I was getting paid a measly $250 every two weeks on ML. Diaper raffles, FTW! I don't side-eye it. I expect it when someone invites me to their shower (and 99.5% of the time, there is one), and we gave away awesome azz baskets at mine (FWIW, I didn't plan my own shower, but I helped my mom).

     

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  • My view of public school is a little skewed because I was gifted and spent all of my time bored out of my mind while teachers had to cater to the average and below-average students. Even the special classes for gifted students weren't challenging. I wasn't challenged academically until I was homeschooled and could do everything at my pace. I breezed through grades 7-12 in 3.5 years and got my GED at 16. Do I miss not having the regular high school experience, like being in drama club and going to prom and stuff? Sure, but I don't miss being bored.

    We live in the nice part of the school district and I actually like the schools on this side of town, so I don't have qualms at the moment about sending Elijah to them. However, we do have a (private) school about 15 minutes away for gifted children and if Elijah goes through the same things I did and tests into that school, I will send him there in a heartbeat.

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    I find college open houses tacky.  If you didn't get a high school open house, then maybe I would understand, but I'm not giving a college grad more than a card and maybe some alcohol.


    What's an open house? Like a grad party?

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  • I'm going to be homeschooling my 2 older children next year because I refuse to send them into a D rated school system.

    The only private school around covers a tricounty area, it's far away and it's as expensive as a high end car payment, per child.

    I would've never thought I'd consider homeschooling my kids until we moved here. There are a ton of families that do it in our community and there are so many resources to help us get started.

    I'm not intimidated anymore.

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  • I have a friend with a daughter who was in a charter school until she got into the gifted class. Then she started hating school and her grades suffered. Turns out, her teacher was picking her out of the other students and pointing out every little thing she did wrong because she skipped a grade and then was also put into the gifted class. My friend spoke with the director about moving her daughter to a different class with a different teacher but couldnt because there werent any other gifted classes in an appropriate grade level. Wrong on the teacher's part but my friend moved her to a public school and she is doing great in the advanced classes, winning science fairs and stuff in the region. Just pointing out the smaller class size can have bad consequences too if the teacher ends up being one of "those" teachers.
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    I have a friend with a daughter who was in a charter school until she got into the gifted class. Then she started hating school and her grades suffered. Turns out, her teacher was picking her out of the other students and pointing out every little thing she did wrong because she skipped a grade and then was also put into the gifted class. My friend spoke with the director about moving her daughter to a different class with a different teacher but couldnt because there werent any other gifted classes in an appropriate grade level. Wrong on the teacher's part but my friend moved her to a public school and she is doing great in the advanced classes, winning science fairs and stuff in the region. Just pointing out the smaller class size can have bad consequences too if the teacher ends up being one of "those" teachers.
    Like I said, positive and negative stories on both sides. You need to know your kid and your area before making a decision like that.I was homeschooled through my sophomore year of HS and went to a catholic HS for the last two years. I loved it. All of it. The public schools in our area are just not very competitive. I could have graduated two years early, but I wanted to play sports.nbsp;One size does not fit all. Some kids will excel in a public setting and some in a private.nbsp;

    ETA: And for some kids a certain learning environment can inhibit them.
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    I'm going to be homeschooling my 2 older children next year because I refuse to send them into a D rated school system. The only private school around covers a tricounty area, it's far away and it's as expensive as a high end car payment, per child. I would've never thought I'd consider homeschooling my kids until we moved here. There are a ton of families that do it in our community and there are so many resources to help us get started. I'm not intimidated anymore.

    I wish I could afford to home school. I so would do it.  

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    imageManda-Kay:

    I find college open houses tacky.  If you didn't get a high school open house, then maybe I would understand, but I'm not giving a college grad more than a card and maybe some alcohol.


    What's an open house? Like a grad party?

    We call grad parties, open houses.  People come and go.  For most, there's a display of things from high school or thoughout school.  My mom made me a binder with pictures from birth - my senior picture.  I had my diploma and awards I received on a table and graduation cake.  I've never been to a college open house (just been invited) but I would imagine it's along the same lines.  



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  • imagebigbootyjudi:

    Maybe because I'm not a big drinker, but I think it's ridiculous for someone to refuse to go to a wedding because there isn't alcohol. You're supposed to be there to celebrate the couple, show them that you want to be there for this momentous moment in their life, etc...not for free alcohol. If that's what you're there for, your time would probably be better spent elsewhere.

    I'm 24 and I've never flown. I didn't travel outside the state until I was 14 on a class trip. I didn't travel by myself/without my mom until I was 19. My mom was essentially a single mom supporting three kids and a deadbeat husband. She worked 7am-7pm Monday-Friday and the last thing she had time (or money) for on the weekends was a trip out of state. She did her best and put us in activities and what not, but I don't think I missed out on anything.

    If we still live around here, G will absolutely be in a private school. The kids in Detroit Public Schools don't even have their own books and the teachers have an allotted amount of copies they're allowed to make per year. SO's LB was handwriting his worksheets onto lined paper from a projection on the board at the end of the school year, FFS.

    Here's my UO: Diaper raffles are extremely common in my area, along with planning your own shower. GASP. I had a diaper raffle, everyone expected me to have one, and everyone participated. We didn't have to buy any diapers for G until he was 4 months old. Say what you want, but that ish helped out immensely when I was getting paid a measly $250 every two weeks on ML. Diaper raffles, FTW! I don't side-eye it. I expect it when someone invites me to their shower (and 99.5% of the time, there is one), and we gave away awesome azz baskets at mine (FWIW, I didn't plan my own shower, but I helped my mom).

     

     

    I agree with the bold.  I live in Northern VA and the schools systems are great, here I would never consider putting Micah in private school.  My dad is from Chicago.  Nothing against Chicago, I love it and used to live there but they school system where my family lives is awful.  Most of my cousins go to private school.  I think it depends on the area and if I lived in an "inner city" Micah would be in private school.

     We had a diaper raffle at my shower.  I thought it was the best idea when my friend who was throwing the shower told me she was having one.  We didn't have to buy diapers for the first 2 months.  Now I tell everyone I know who is pregnant and they have one also.  I don't get how its tacky, when people are bringing gifts to the shower anyway.  Everyone got a raffle ticket when they put their diapers in the designated area and at the end of the shower I picked a winner and they got a $20 Starbucks gift certificate.

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  • BBJ - totally get what you're saying about diapers at a baby shower but it bothers me that I have to buy a gift and a pack of diapers or a book.  When I'm invited to one of those, I get a smaller gift to compensate for the cost of buying a pack of diapers or a book. 


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    Part of why I would consider private school for the elementary years is because I want my child to have fun in school. Around here, there are no more holidays or birthday celebrations in the public schools. I know there are other ways for them to have fun, but most of my best memories of elementary school have to do with things like getting dressed up for Halloween and having a parade, or Christmas around the world celebrations, etc.
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    BBJ totally get what you're saying about diapers at a baby shower but it bothers me that I have to buy a gift and a pack of diapers or a book.nbsp; When I'm invited to one of those, I get a smaller gift to compensate for the cost of buying a pack of diapers or a book.nbsp;


    My thoughts too. Also two baby showers I went to recently didn't say they were having a diaper raffle. I would have liked to be part of it if I had known, but like manda said, my gift would have been less expensive.
  • I taught in charters for 6 years and now teach in what is considered a very good public school district. We could never afford private school and the only option here is religious schools, which would not be a good fit for us.

    DD will not be going to my public school system for a variety of reasons, unless it improves vastly in 4 years. We plan to get her on the waiting list for both local charter schools whenever we can and cross our fingers. 

    I liked the way charter schools that I worked in viewed parents as partners in education and created a school community. I also liked that the management was site-based and all curricular decisions were made by teachers, not suits in a central office. 

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