Pool Pass Update

Twinkler2011 · June 2013

Below is the email I received today.....

Dear Ms. *****,

I am in receipt of your email regarding Troy Aquatic Park season passes and I certainly appreciate your comments. Policies related to the Troy Aquatic Park are established by the Troy Recreation Board. Staff is then responsible for implementation and enforcement of these established policies.

The policies are reviewed each year by the Recreation Board following the pool season in either September or October. This particular policy was reviewed and discussed in detail by the Troy Recreation Board in 2010. At that time, the board determined to continue with the policy as it had been previously established. In order to qualify as a member of a family pass, the passholders that may be included can be ?custodial mother and/or father or legal guardian who are legally married and/or their children ages 3 - 18 who reside in the same household.?

I plan to present your suggested revisions to the board for their consideration when they next meet. However, as I mentioned, they typically do their annual review of all the policies each year in September or October. Therefore, I don?t know that any revisions to the policy would be made prior to that time.

For this season, I do not anticipate that Ms. ****** will qualify as part of this family season pass. She is certainly welcome to purchase an adult pass. If she would like to do this, please contact Carrie Slater and I would be willing to offer her the ?Early Bird? Adult Season Pass rate of $95.

Regards,

Ken Siler

I edited it to remove my partner and I's last names. I think it is so sad, that is was considered and they still chose discrimination.

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trisholio · June 2013

I missed the original post about this, but I am assuming they wouldn't let you purchase a family pool pass?

That is complete discrimination and absurd! It saddens me that stuff like this still happens in 2013 :-(

songbird31 · June 2013

Something so simple made so complicated by hate. I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this. Sigh. These situations are always so disappointing to me. Even their language was written specially to weed out gay people without saying it.

FriendinMoscow · June 2013

Ugh, maybe you should publicize this, tell the local paper/Facebook etc? In 2013 people get pretty worked up about this sort of thing, and their discrimination should be exposed. Where do you live?

Twinkler2011 · June 2013

trisholio:
I missed the original post about this, but I am assuming they wouldn't let you purchase a family pool pass?
That is complete discrimination and absurd! It saddens me that stuff like this still happens in 2013 :-(

Yea Trish in a nut shell that's pretty much what happened. The post was last week Thurs I think and its says Need Advise or something like that..... and yes it is sad!

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Twinkler2011 · June 2013

FriendinMoscow:
Ugh, maybe you should publicize this, tell the local paper/Facebook etc? In 2013 people get pretty worked up about this sort of thing, and their discrimination should be exposed. Where do you live?

We live in Troy Ohio

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Twinkler2011 · June 2013

I was especially dissapointed in the fact that they hadnt revisited the topic since 2010? Seriously.....I know we are not the only family denied this in our town!

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2MamazInSeattle · June 2013

Wow, I'm stunned! How backwards and to PP's point, 2010??? Seriously? That's the last time?

While I appreciate his tone was very respectful, and that clearly Ken here has no power, this is very sad and disappointing to say the least. Do you feel comfortable doing a letter to the editor of your newspaper? I'm happy to help you write it if you want!

I think that THIS is the kind of reason that we need to be able to be legally married and this is the EXACT kind of 'real life' scenario that the right wing nut jobs never think of (or, even the people who are borderline on the matter). This reminds me of paying the city taxes on the value of 1/2 my house that I bought with my money because I had my ex's name on the title! So when she left, I had to 'buy' her half and pay taxes on it's value! All because we were not married. Nobody thinks about the 'small' stuff. <jumps off soapbox>

Well, I give Ken 5 points for offering you the early bird rate since he obviously doesn't himself have the power to make bigger change. I'm sorry you're out $95 bucks...I know how hurtful this kind of thing is.

Hang in there.

Twinkler2011 · June 2013

2MamazInSeattle:
Wow, I'm stunned! How backwards and to PP's point, 2010??? Seriously? That's the last time?
While I appreciate his tone was very respectful, and that clearly Ken here has no power, this is very sad and disappointing to say the least. Do you feel comfortable doing a letter to the editor of your newspaper? I'm happy to help you write it if you want!
I think that THIS is the kind of reason that we need to be able to be legally married and this is the EXACT kind of 'real life' scenario that the right wing nut jobs never think of (or, even the people who are borderline on the matter). This reminds me of paying the city taxes on the value of 1/2 my house that I bought with my money because I had my ex's name on the title! So when she left, I had to 'buy' her half and pay taxes on it's value! All because we were not married. Nobody thinks about the 'small' stuff. <jumps off soapbox>
Well, I give Ken 5 points for offering you the early bird rate since he obviously doesn't himself have the power to make bigger change. I'm sorry you're out $95 bucks...I know how hurtful this kind of thing is.
Hang in there.

Thanks 2mamaz, I did write a short note to the editor of our paper and the lead journalist. I also forwarded the emails (mine & his) to them. I hope someone takes an interest. My city is only 90 minutes from Columbus and 20 minutes from Dayton, cities that I am sure this kind of thing doesn't happen in very often! We are a pretty big town with a tiny town mentality! Gah!

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Twinkler2011 · June 2013

sparkles412:
I am so sorry about this! I think that it was great that you wrote the letter and I hope that in the future this will change - I would probably consider posting about this on social media, etc - but that is just me.
I noticed that it said a family membership includes a mom/dad or legal guardians - have you done a 2nd parent adoption (sorry if you already mentioned this previously)? Wouldn't that then mean that your partner is a legal guardian and therefore you would both qualify?
It would make me so upset to even give them the business by purchasing an extra adult pass, but then my kids would miss out - I would be torn!
Sorry the update wasn't better!

We are in Ohio, no second parent adoption here available to us. Ohio has a long way to go on a lot of LGBT issues....

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Twinkler2011 · June 2013

2MamazInSeattle:
Wow, I'm stunned! How backwards and to PP's point, 2010??? Seriously? That's the last time?
While I appreciate his tone was very respectful, and that clearly Ken here has no power, this is very sad and disappointing to say the least. Do you feel comfortable doing a letter to the editor of your newspaper? I'm happy to help you write it if you want!
I think that THIS is the kind of reason that we need to be able to be legally married and this is the EXACT kind of 'real life' scenario that the right wing nut jobs never think of (or, even the people who are borderline on the matter). This reminds me of paying the city taxes on the value of 1/2 my house that I bought with my money because I had my ex's name on the title! So when she left, I had to 'buy' her half and pay taxes on it's value! All because we were not married. Nobody thinks about the 'small' stuff. <jumps off soapbox>
Well, I give Ken 5 points for offering you the early bird rate since he obviously doesn't himself have the power to make bigger change. I'm sorry you're out $95 bucks...I know how hurtful this kind of thing is.
Hang in there.

Perhaps you could help me with a response to dear Mr. Ken Siler?

trisholio · June 2013

Twinkler2011:
sparkles412:
I am so sorry about this! I think that it was great that you wrote the letter and I hope that in the future this will change - I would probably consider posting about this on social media, etc - but that is just me.
I noticed that it said a family membership includes a mom/dad or legal guardians - have you done a 2nd parent adoption (sorry if you already mentioned this previously)? Wouldn't that then mean that your partner is a legal guardian and therefore you would both qualify?
It would make me so upset to even give them the business by purchasing an extra adult pass, but then my kids would miss out - I would be torn!
Sorry the update wasn't better!

We are in Ohio, no second parent adoption here available to us. Ohio has a long way to go on a lot of LGBT issues....
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Ugh, yes Ohio has a very long way to go in LGBT rights. We have a huge LGBT community, especially in Columbus, but there are a lot of conservatives in the smaller towns that are obviously discriminating and holding us back.

firstcomeslove2013 · June 2013

I just got a response and then responded to her response from the pool lady. Twinkler I am going to PM you my email address. Email me and I'll send you those emails as well.

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