Trouble TTC

when to give up??

we are at that point. 4 surgeries to try to fix my uterus. Almost 4 years of trying. 3 years of almost non stop medicated cycles, iui, and surgeries and 8 miscarriages. My husband wants to be done because he thinks it is too much on my body but i still have hope and want to have my own baby. i am just more scared about never being  a mom than i am about what this is doing to my body. Do you all have a stopping point? when are you going to give up?

Married 11/27/09 and TTC right away
Dx: Complete septate uterus with cervical duplication, endometrial polyps, PCOS, endometriosis, hypo thyroid, luteal phase defect
4 uterus surgeries to correct my complete septum and to remove polyps and 2 years of seeing the RE, medicated cycles and IUIs
Baby 1 and 2: BFP 3/3/11 with 2 babies EDD 11/1/11, M/C 4/6/11
Baby #3: 8/11 pregnant EDD 4/27/11 and m/c:(
Baby #4: 10/12/11 BFP! EDD 6/16/12m/c 10/26/11
Baby #5: 3/13/12 BFP! EDD 11/25/12 ANOTHER m/c :(

Baby #6: 2/14/13- BFP! EDD 10/24/13, CP 2/19/13
Baby #7: 3/15/13- BFP! EDD 11/27/13, another CP
Baby #8.  BFP 5/19/13 EDD 1/22/14. 8 was not our lucky number

4th septum resection on 5/31/13.
Baby #9: 6/29/13 BFP. C section scheduled for March 5th!

My miracle baby was born March 5 at 9:33am. He was 8 lbs 12.5 oz and 21.25 inches long!

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Re: when to give up??

  • Communicating with my husband and looking ahead to how "mom" is defined helps us.  I am a "mom" to my nephews and to my students.  We want my health to come first and then we talk about how our treatment options are possible.  It's such a personal decision, but just know there are so many ways to "mother" a child, wether we give birth to our own children or not, those loving skills of nurturing another human being will not go to waste.

    Thinking of you.  You've been through so much and remember, as a couple, you both ARE a family! Smile  Stay strong and take good care of yourself this Sunday.

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    Married August 2012 -- Me (40 yrs old) My husband (45 yrs. old) 

    RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF 

    IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN

      Decided to do IVF... Began stimming on September 10th!  Egg Retrieval 9/20/13.  19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI

     3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5  Beta #2 on 10/6/13 =  negative

      IVF#2 - Lupron plan  (set to begin on 10/28/13)  (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)

     Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months

    CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron.  (Got my calendar today!  IVF#2 is a go!)

    ER = 1/14/14  (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized.  Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized.  At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing.  Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)

    ET = 1/19/14  (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred!   (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze.  =(  )

    Beta #1 = 1/28/14   (2 weeks after ER)  BFP! 209 (9dp5dt)   EDD 10/7/14

    Beta #2 - 1/30/14  (11 dp5dt) 302

    Beta #3 - 2/3/14  (15 dp5dt)  1222 

    Ultrasound set for 2/17/14......TWINS!        Twin A - HR 124 bpm; Twin B - HR 126 bpm

    Final Ultrasound with RE 3/10/14 - Twin A - HR 176 bpm; Twin B - HR 177 bpm.

     PAIF/SAIF Welcome! 

     

     

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  • thank you guys. i really appreciate your input. there is so much to think about

    Married 11/27/09 and TTC right away
    Dx: Complete septate uterus with cervical duplication, endometrial polyps, PCOS, endometriosis, hypo thyroid, luteal phase defect
    4 uterus surgeries to correct my complete septum and to remove polyps and 2 years of seeing the RE, medicated cycles and IUIs
    Baby 1 and 2: BFP 3/3/11 with 2 babies EDD 11/1/11, M/C 4/6/11
    Baby #3: 8/11 pregnant EDD 4/27/11 and m/c:(
    Baby #4: 10/12/11 BFP! EDD 6/16/12m/c 10/26/11
    Baby #5: 3/13/12 BFP! EDD 11/25/12 ANOTHER m/c :(

    Baby #6: 2/14/13- BFP! EDD 10/24/13, CP 2/19/13
    Baby #7: 3/15/13- BFP! EDD 11/27/13, another CP
    Baby #8.  BFP 5/19/13 EDD 1/22/14. 8 was not our lucky number

    4th septum resection on 5/31/13.
    Baby #9: 6/29/13 BFP. C section scheduled for March 5th!

    My miracle baby was born March 5 at 9:33am. He was 8 lbs 12.5 oz and 21.25 inches long!

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  • We are going to do one maybe two more IUI's then moving on. We havent yet decided if moving on means IVF or adoption. We are waiting to do my DH's second SA to see if the morphology improves at all. Either way, financially both options are a long ways out. 

    I know how hard a year of trying is, but 5 years I cant imagine. Its something YOU need to decide on. He has already let you know how he feels, but you need to be truly happy with the decision you make otherwise it will eat at you forever. I feel you have proven yourself to be strong after everything you've been through. You have exerted more effort to one cause than some people exert in their whole life. I think whatever decision is made will be right for you two. You deserve happiness no matter the form it comes in :)

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    First off I'm very sorry you've had to go through this much hell in your journey. The decision to stop ttc is a very personal one and it should be discussed and agreed upon by both partners.

    My Dh and I have talked about what our stopping point will be several times. There are a lot of parameters involved but the big one for us is once IVF is our only option then we're done because IVF is not an option for us. I'd be willing to do up to 4 IUI and if they don't take I'm done. If Dh's sa doesn't improve by the end of the year, then we're done. If I had two miscarriages I know I would be done, I don't know how you've managed to keep on keeping on. But just because we'd be done ttc doesn't mean that my journey towards motherhood would end, the road I take would just be a different one as we would pursue adoption.


    TTC since March of 2012
    Me: 27 Dh: 35 Testing Begins 3/5/13
    Six SA's show DH has low numbers across the board = severe MFI
    Genetic testing for me = MTHFR+, also carrier for blood clotting disorder Otherwise all else normal
    Dh's karotype= Normal!!
     Mini-IVF/ICSI - July -August 2014 - 1R,M,&F Transferred 1 Grade 1 Morula-5dt - BFFN


     
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  • I would really recommend reading Sweet Grapes. We chose childfree as a resolution (not "giving up" - I hate that phrase) to our infertility about 18 months ago. Reading it really helped me work through some of the thoughts and questions I had about what a CF life could look like for us. I also saw a therapist to help talk through the grief and other feelings. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk - brookelynpaisley at gmail
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    DX: severe MFI (low all 3) and low T. Undergoing replacement therapy.
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    I would really recommend reading Sweet Grapes. We chose childfree as a resolution (not "giving up" - I hate that phrase) to our infertility about 18 months ago. Reading it really helped me work through some of the thoughts and questions I had about what a CF life could look like for us. I also saw a therapist to help talk through the grief and other feelings. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk - brookelynpaisley at gmail

     

    Thank you. i really appreciate it. i am going to read that book. we have also talked about living child free and that is one of the things we are considering.

    Married 11/27/09 and TTC right away
    Dx: Complete septate uterus with cervical duplication, endometrial polyps, PCOS, endometriosis, hypo thyroid, luteal phase defect
    4 uterus surgeries to correct my complete septum and to remove polyps and 2 years of seeing the RE, medicated cycles and IUIs
    Baby 1 and 2: BFP 3/3/11 with 2 babies EDD 11/1/11, M/C 4/6/11
    Baby #3: 8/11 pregnant EDD 4/27/11 and m/c:(
    Baby #4: 10/12/11 BFP! EDD 6/16/12m/c 10/26/11
    Baby #5: 3/13/12 BFP! EDD 11/25/12 ANOTHER m/c :(

    Baby #6: 2/14/13- BFP! EDD 10/24/13, CP 2/19/13
    Baby #7: 3/15/13- BFP! EDD 11/27/13, another CP
    Baby #8.  BFP 5/19/13 EDD 1/22/14. 8 was not our lucky number

    4th septum resection on 5/31/13.
    Baby #9: 6/29/13 BFP. C section scheduled for March 5th!

    My miracle baby was born March 5 at 9:33am. He was 8 lbs 12.5 oz and 21.25 inches long!

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  • First of all, I am so sorry that this has been a long and difficult journey for you. IF is painful, both mentally and physically, and it sounds as though you have experienced plenty of both.

    I've definitely had my moments of considering how much is enough in terms of TTC. (In fact, I think I posted about it a couple of months ago). Unfortunately for us, cost is a factor. We don't have unlimited resources, so at some point, we will need to stop, baby or not.  In addition to resources, I don't have the mental or emotional stamina to keep going with this beyond a certain point. For me, I feel like it would be more productive to start thinking about what life could be like child free. As much as I want a child of my own, my husband has already said that he could be happy if our family ended up just being the two of us, and a slew of nieces and nephews that we love. That was honestly a relief to me, and the beginning of me being able to think about the alternate reality from what I had envisioned.

    At  this point, I still have some energy to keep going, and am not totally at peace with the alternative, but I am getting there. GL to you, and sending lots of positive thoughts your way. 


    ** After  2 1/2 years of Unexplained IF, 2 failed medicated cycles, and 4 failed IUI's - our baby girl came to us through the miracle of
     Mini IVF! **

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  • I am so sorry, my heart is breaking for you. I hope you guys can figure it out I don't know if I could make that decision. Good luck to you in whatever you decide.
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    TTC since 0ct. 2011
    Me-34,DH-34
    Dx:Hypothyroidism 2008
    HSG- All clear CD 3 bloodwork normal
    SA- Abnormal Dx:MFI
    DH on 50mg Clomid 3x week
    BFP#1- 1/21/13 CP 1/24/13
    Cycle 18,19 & 20 50mg Clomid+trigger+IUI= All BFFN
    Cycle 21-25 Taking a break for now, still HIO Hoping!
    Moving onto IVF Next AF
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  • I am so sorry this journey has been so difficult for you guys and that you are now faced with the decision.  I hope you and your husband are able to come to a decision that you are both comfortable with.  Keeping you guys in my T&P.  

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    Me 32 :: DH 41

     TTC since November, 2011

    DH's SA : Excellent

    Lap and Hysteroscopy June 2012

    DX: PCOS, Stage III Endo, slight Adenomyosis, blocked tube, and probable LPD

    Treatments:  6 Months Lupron Depot injections; 1500 mg metformin; 3 cycles of Clomid + TI = BFN

    3 endometrial biopsies all were "out of phase" 

    September - December, 2013:  Break to lose weight and get healthy

    40 lb weight loss but still not ovulating "in phase"  

    February - March 2014: bcps + follistim + trigger + TI = BFP

     Beta #1 (12dpo): 30; Beta #2 (18dpo): 500; Beta #3 (25dpo): 7,000!!! 

    1st u/s 4/16: One beautiful hb at 144 bmp 

    2nd u/s 4/29: hb at 166 bmp.  Graduated from RE!!

    TEAM PINK! 

    Baby girl arrived on Thanksgiving day weighing 7lbs 6oz and measuring 20 inches

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  • I am so sorry fertility has been so cruel to you! I can not imagine the pain you have felt, it is not something I have experienced in my own fertility journey.

    Sending you all the love and patience I am capable of as you make this difficult decision. 

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    Me: 36, DH: 41 TTC: Feb 2011
    Dx uterine fibroids & MFI = Varicocele causing decreased SA
    *** 12/2011: IUI #1 50mg Clomid = BFN ***
    *** 8/2012: IUI #2 100mg Clomid = BFN ***
    *** 11/2012: IUI #3 150mg Clomid & Metmorphin 150mg = BFN ***
    *** 1/2013: Changed RE's & Urologists for more focus on MFI ***
    *** 4/2013: IUI#4 Femara & Follistim = BFFN ***
    *** 5/2013: IUI#5 Femara, Follistim & Bravella = BFFN ***
    ***6/2013: Taking a much needed break***
  • jfb29jfb29 member
    HUGE HUGS!!!!  I have don't have any more advice for you than what the other ladies have given you thus far.  I am so sorry you are at this point in your very tough journey.  I hope that you and your DH can work this out and find your happiness, whatever that may be...

    TTC #1 Since 7/2011

    Me: 30, PCOS with anovulation
    DH: 38, Low Morph & DE
    Rx: Metformin 500mg

    Cycle #1: Clomid 100mg + Ovidrel = No Response, Canceled
    Cycle #2: Clomid 150mg + Ovidrel = No Response, Canceled
    Cycle #3: Clomid 150mg + Follistim + Ovidrel = No response, Canceled

    Cycle #4: Femara 7.5mg + Gonal-f + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP!!!!

     

    ~ EDD 03.26.14 ~

  • I'm so sorry this has been such a tough journey for you.  I send you many big hugs!  My DH and I have talked, we will not be doing IVF.  We have always said that we would like to adopt through the foster care system even if we had our own children.  So many kids need a good home.  Right now we are in a VERY small 2 bedroom home (just barely 800 sq. ft.).  Its not enough space for an older child and a baby, so we can't do both at the same time.  Due to loss in home value selling isn't an option and we are not at a place where we are ready to turn it into a rental property (hope fully in the next 2 years).  We have decided that once we start treatments we will give it a year.  If it doesn't look like a healthy pregnancy is possible, we will start the foster care program.  If it is possible we will give it another 6 months before enrolling, once we have the bigger home we will definitely be doing both.  I don't know if I will ever be able to stop trying for a biological child.  I am staying positive because pregnancy or not we will have children in our home. 

    Me: 33 - PCOS & Hypothyroidism DH: 35 - SA is good Married since 2010 (together since 2006) TTC since June 2009 (we knew we would have issues and wanted family right away after we got married). No pregnancies yet. May 2013 - started first round of Chlomid & ovidrel cycle.
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