Controversial topic

aeterhune · May 2013

There seems to be a lot of members of the blue team here so I thought I would ask you guys. Circumcision or not? Hubby says absolutely do it but I'm not so sure.

tmccord21 · May 2013

aeterhune:
There seems to be a lot of members of the blue team here so I thought I would ask you guys. Circumcision or not? Hubby says absolutely do it but I'm not so sure.

I'm in the same boat. He wants to and I'm not for it. We need to sit down and have that convo for real. Fun times.

acethebase · May 2013

I did it with my first and I'm doing it with this one....... Personal preference

losersaidwhat · May 2013

Not, but it's not something I feel is medically necessary. For the most part it began as a religious/ceremonial thing (as far as I know) and we're certainly not religiously motivated in this decision, DH isn't, and neither are my first two sons, so everyone will match.

I could care less about what other women/their families choose to do.

cole89 · May 2013

asajeanmiller:
I did it with my first and I'm doing it with this one....... Personal preference

This. However we are team green so if this LO is also a boy DH and I have agreed on circumcision.

mancila60 · May 2013

We are doing it. DH felt strongly about it and I also had personal reasons for wanting it done. I agree even though it's not as much a religious thing anymore it is a personal choice.

Scientist23 · May 2013

losersaidwhat:
Not, but it's not something I feel is medically necessary. For the most part it began as a religious/ceremonial thing (as far as I know) and we're certainly not religiously motivated in this decision, DH isn't, and neither are my first two sons, so everyone will match.
I could care less about what other women/their families choose to do.

This... but we did it with DS. I left it up to DH. For what it's worth I had zero issues with recovery.

Sdeux · May 2013

Absolutely yes! Husband and I are both for it. Personal preference we both believe it looks better and cleaner.

HFrizzle · May 2013

We still haven't found out yet, but we are still on the fence. I am not for it at all and the hubby just thinks that's what you do. We've discussed it a few times, but we will see what happens in a few weeks when we find out.

Lava1017 · May 2013

I did mith my first son and plan on doing it again but every is different

ajjf1026 · May 2013

I think that if you're having trouble deciding and you're not basing your decision upon medical and or religious reasons, I would go with what DH wants. He's a man and he knows what it's like. While my DH and I discussed it, I ultimately feel like it should be more so based on what he wants to do. We're Team Green so if this LO is a boy, we will be circumcizing. And like PP have said, it's more or less a personal preference.

beckybeth123 · May 2013

beernifer:
Got to jump in and poke the nest a little bit. Sorry I am so bored at work cause of the holiday. For those of you saying it is a religious tradition;What about the studies that show that circumcision reduces the risk of STIs including HIV? Or even UTIs in the first year of life?nbsp;If you knew, for sure, that being "clipped" could reduce your son's risk of an STD later on in life, would you do it?nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;

The reduction in STIs is very minimal, to the point that the AAP does not recommend routine circumcision because the benefits do not significantly outweigh the risks. Condoms also reduce the risks of STIs. Get your facts straight before you try to say that people who don't circumcise increase the risk of STIs.
That being said, I don't care what people choose to do, but do your research first.

tbug082810 · May 2013

beernifer:
Got to jump in and poke the nest a little bit. Sorry I am so bored at work cause of the holiday.
For those of you saying it is a religious tradition;
What about the studies that show that circumcision reduces the risk of STIs including HIV? Or even UTIs in the first year of life?
If you knew, for sure, that being "clipped" could reduce your son's risk of an STD later on in life, would you do it?

Nope, I would teach my son safe sex practices, and good personal hygeine. I will not permanatley alter his body when it's not medically necessary, and also decreases sensitivity later on. The statistics are SO slim when it comes to the Uti's etc. For the record, my husband is circumsized and did not appreciate his parent's deciding that for him. He feels really strongly about it.

With all that being said, I would never think down upon anyone that chooses to, I just don't agree with most peoples justifications, unless it's religion based.

Please excuse any crappy spelling!

losersaidwhat · May 2013

beernifer:
Got to jump in and poke the nest a little bit. Sorry I am so bored at work cause of the holiday.
For those of you saying it is a religious tradition; I said "as far as I know" (can't speak for others) so I'm aware I could have it completely wrong for this.
What about the studies that show that circumcision reduces the risk of STIs including HIV? Or even UTIs in the first year of life? Any doctors I've spoken with on the matter since before DS1 was born have advised me that circumcision only decreases chances of these by a little bit. Circumcision is also classed as a cosmetic procedure where I live = not medically necessary.
If you knew, for sure, that being "clipped" could reduce your son's risk of an STD later on in life, would you do it? I'm not sure that I would if it were only guaranteed to reduce their chances. If it guaranteed they would never have to worry about it ever, regardless of their choices, then probably. Rather than circumcision I plan to educate my boys on good personal hygiene and responsible sex - not saying those things aren't on the agendas of parents who circumcise their sons, I just feel that they are "enough" for my family and that it's unnecessary.

bkeane619 · May 2013

I did not do it with my son. I feel there was no reason to do that to my son considering most of the civilized world does not. Just recently there was a debate on another board about it and I found a youtube video of it being done by a Dr and I have to say it was extremely disturbing. I started crying and had to turn it off. If you can sit through a video of it and say yea I want that done to my son at one day old then I say go for it. If you watch one and it upsets you like it did me, don't do it.

Nickisiebert · May 2013

It's not for us. H isn't, and we aren't Jewish, and I don't feel it's incredibly medically beneficial based on the info I have...so there we have it. I'm a Christian and I know in some circles it's still expected that Christians follow the Jewish tradition, but our church community seems to agree that it's a do it if you feel like it but it's not a requirement kinda deal.

jen-dale · May 2013

beernifer:
Got to jump in and poke the nest a little bit. Sorry I am so bored at work cause of the holiday.
For those of you saying it is a religious tradition;
What about the studies that show that circumcision reduces the risk of STIs including HIV? Or even UTIs in the first year of life?
If you knew, for sure, that being "clipped" could reduce your son's risk of an STD later on in life, would you do it?

Research has proved this to be untrue.

ClomidCrazed · May 2013

Google the pros and cons of it, I was always the who needs it kind of girl but my husband isn't cut and reveal research does wonders.

beckybeth123 · May 2013

beernifer:
beckybeth123:
beernifer:
Got to jump in and poke the nest a little bit. Sorry I am so bored at work cause of the holiday. For those of you saying it is a religious tradition;What about the studies that show that circumcision reduces the risk of STIs including HIV? Or even UTIs in the first year of life?nbsp;If you knew, for sure, that being "clipped" could reduce your son's risk of an STD later on in life, would you do it?nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;

The reduction in STIs is very minimal, to the point that the AAP does not recommend routine circumcision because the benefits do not significantly outweigh the risks. Condoms also reduce the risks of STIs. Get your facts straight before you try to say that people who don't circumcise increase the risk of STIs.
That being said, I don't care what people choose to do, but do your research first.

To be fair, my facts come from the Mayo clinic website. So as we all know. Since it is in the interwebs it must be true. And I wasn't saying that been uncircumcised would increase the risk. Just a question. If you knew for sure, would you do it? That is all.

So, does the mayo clinic reccommed routine circumcision? I'm pretty sure the answer is no because the evidence supporting STI reduction is minimal at best.

Beccabby · May 2013

Jaycarmelxo:
Personally, it seems silly for me as a woman to be so firm in an idea that I will never truly know the reprocutions of.. I have never and will never experience what it is like to have a penis, so to me women arguing over which is better is kind of silly. That being said, the arguments for both sides have good points, but if I have a son ..I find out Monday.. He will be circumcised due to mine and his fathers position of a cleanliness factor..

If we have a son he will be circumcised for this reason. I also think is a couple years that scientists will change their mind and find other research that now says that circumcision has benefits. Studies flip flop all the time on their views of everything so its not always easy to make a decision based on studies and scientists. Its a personal decision for us not a scientific one.

aeterhune · May 2013

I'm pretty sure I watched that same video, that's what put me on the fence about it.

--halo-- · May 2013

This is a tough topic for me. With DS I was on the fence about it and let DH decide. He chose to get it done, and DS had lots of complications from it and there was a lot of ensuing anxiety for me.

If we have a boy this time I really would rather not do it. But I worry about one brother being cut and the other not and what kind of feelings may arise from that.

bkeane619 · May 2013

Here is the other thing the whole HIV thing is based off of African studies. Look at the HIV rate in this country at .6% where a higher percentage of men are circumcised. Now, look at the UK .2%, Australia .1%, Germany.1% places that do not do it routinely. Those are the countries with educated public who use condoms. It is education that prevents STDs not circumcision.

bkeane619 · May 2013

--halo--:
This is a tough topic for me. With DS I was on the fence about it and let DH decide. He chose to get it done, and DS had lots of complications from it and there was a lot of ensuing anxiety for me. If we have a boy this time I really would rather not do it. But I worry about one brother being cut and the other not and what kind of feelings may arise from that.

My DH is cut and my son is not. We will explain why when he is old enough to understand. I don't even worry about it.

losersaidwhat · May 2013

Jaycarmelxo:
mmgkms:
mancila60:
We are doing it. DH felt strongly about it and I also had personal reasons for wanting it done. I agree even though it's not as much a religious thing anymore it is a personal choice.
This. There was no question about in our house. I dated a guy who wasn't cut, and frankly it was a huge turn off for me. And I think I've only met one woman who didn't mind. :: I brought up the turn off thing because there is ultimately going to be a few women who say it can decrease sexual pleasure and they are thinking about their sons future sex life...well, so am I ::Regardless of what anyone says, for me I feel like it is cleaner, and this is something my boyfriend wholeheartedly agrees with. I stand by my choice.
This.. I can't say that the male sexual experience is better or worse, and honestly it's more of a preference to them since they won't know the other way around either, but I've also dated a guy before who was not cut and my personal sexual preference is a circumcised man.. dun dun dunnn ..you're welcome for that little tidbit of information..

FWIW my DH is uncut and is the best sex of my life. Wink Every other guy I've been with before him was cut so I'm not sure what to think of that.

bkeane619 · May 2013

Jaycarmelxo:
mmgkms:
mancila60:
We are doing it. DH felt strongly about it and I also had personal reasons for wanting it done. I agree even though it's not as much a religious thing anymore it is a personal choice.

This. There was no question about in our house. I dated a guy who wasn't cut, and frankly it was a huge turn off for me. And I think I've only met one woman who didn't mind. :: I brought up the turn off thing because there is ultimately going to be a few women who say it can decrease sexual pleasure and they are thinking about their sons future sex life...well, so am I ::Regardless of what anyone says, for me I feel like it is cleaner, and this is something my boyfriend wholeheartedly agrees with. I stand by my choice.

This.. I can't say that the male sexual experience is better or worse, and honestly it's more of a preference to them since they won't know the other way around either, but I've also dated a guy before who was not cut and my personal sexual preference is a circumcised man.. dun dun dunnn

..you're welcome for that little tidbit of information..

I had the opposite with two uncut men. Don't tell DH. I used to call the one "the uncut wonder" lol.

lbethke99 · May 2013

I left it up to my dh since he is a guy and I don't know what (really) goes on with all that. That being said we did get our son circ.

elllaf · May 2013

Dh is cut.
Actually I have never been with an uncut guy. Thats a whopping 5 people...
But I would hate for my son to feel uncomfortable around his peers or women later in life for being uncut. Dh feels the same way and it wasn't even a long conversation for us. We will be circ our son.
As for watching a video...um that's flucking nuts. Doctors eyes only.
Of course I'm concerned for my little boy and will be sad knowing what he will be going through but he will be ok shortly after and I will be waiting close by to comfort him.
Case in point...personal preference.

BrittanyCupcakes · May 2013

losersaidwhat:
Jaycarmelxo:
mmgkms:
mancila60:
We are doing it. DH felt strongly about it and I also had personal reasons for wanting it done. I agree even though it's not as much a religious thing anymore it is a personal choice.
This. There was no question about in our house. I dated a guy who wasn't cut, and frankly it was a huge turn off for me. And I think I've only met one woman who didn't mind. :: I brought up the turn off thing because there is ultimately going to be a few women who say it can decrease sexual pleasure and they are thinking about their sons future sex life...well, so am I ::Regardless of what anyone says, for me I feel like it is cleaner, and this is something my boyfriend wholeheartedly agrees with. I stand by my choice.
This.. I can't say that the male sexual experience is better or worse, and honestly it's more of a preference to them since they won't know the other way around either, but I've also dated a guy before who was not cut and my personal sexual preference is a circumcised man.. dun dun dunnn ..you're welcome for that little tidbit of information..
FWIW my DH is uncut and is the best sex of my life. Every other guy I've been with before him was cut so I'm not sure what to think of that.

This. SO and one of my exes were uncut, and the sex with each of them was exponentially better than sex with the ones that were cut.
I'm glad I'm having a girl so we don't have to worry about this one. I'm against it, SO is for it, even though he is uncut. And he never had any problems finding sexual partners. His number is shockingly high (at least it is to me), and he's STD free.

aeterhune · May 2013

For those who had it done, what was the recovery like? Was he is pain?

LeahV78 · May 2013

First born was cut, second was not. We're expecting a daughter, but if we had a boy we would cut (I remarried and hubby is Jewish) Honestly, it was easier taking care of the uncut son when he was younger, but now he has "dribbles" which my circ son never had. Like extra pee dribbles. Looking back, I wish I had him cut.

sleepy33 · May 2013

Not circumcising my son. My H is not circumcised, and the sex is and has always been amazing. I am hoping everyone here is aware that an erect, uncircumcised penis looks exactly like a circumcised penis, w/ regard to being 'sexually appealing' to future sex partners... The foreskin is only visible when it is flaccid. I see no more reason to remove a son's foreskin than there would be to remove a daughter's labia.

As far as the STD 'study', I certainly will tell my son that the only way for him to remain safe from STDs is to practice safe sex, not to rely on lack of a foreskin to protect him from HIV.

sleepy33 · May 2013

Jaycarmelxo:
I don't think anyone was saying uncircumcised sex wasn't good, I think that we all were just commenting on personal preferences.. But no, an uncircumcised vs circumcised erect penis is not equally appealing to everyone.. It's everyone's individual preference, as is circumcision..

I didn't say that they were equally 'appealing' (whatever that means) I said that they look the same, and they do, assuming the man's foreskin functions normally. I would wager most women wouldn't know the difference when erect.

bkeane619 · May 2013

sleepy33:
Jaycarmelxo:
I don't think anyone was saying uncircumcised sex wasn't good, I think that we all were just commenting on personal preferences.. But no, an uncircumcised vs circumcised erect penis is not equally appealing to everyone.. It's everyone's individual preference, as is circumcision..
I didn't say that they were equally 'appealing' (whatever that means) I said that they look the same, and they do, assuming the man's foreskin functions normally. I would wager most women wouldn't know the difference when erect.

lol I remember when "the uncut wonder" told me he was uncut I freaked and went home and googled pics. I was like oh crap and super nervous. When the time came I was like that's it?it looked normal Lol I had freaked myself out for nothing.

sleepy33 · May 2013

bkeane619:
sleepy33:
Jaycarmelxo:
I don't think anyone was saying uncircumcised sex wasn't good, I think that we all were just commenting on personal preferences.. But no, an uncircumcised vs circumcised erect penis is not equally appealing to everyone.. It's everyone's individual preference, as is circumcision..
I didn't say that they were equally 'appealing' (whatever that means) I said that they look the same, and they do, assuming the man's foreskin functions normally. I would wager most women wouldn't know the difference when erect.
lol I remember when "the uncut wonder" told me he was uncut I freaked and went home and googled pics. I was like oh crap and super nervous. When the time came I was like that's it?it looked normal Lol I had freaked myself out for nothing.

Yeah, I truly had no idea with my H until well into the relationship. I mean, think about it, how many times early on do you really see it in the light of day when it's...ahem...not ready for action?

CousinVicki · May 2013

i am so disgusted by the "cleanliness factor" being a reason for circumcising. clearly you all have done ZERO research. and "leaving it up to the father" ??? really? Shouldnt you make an informed decision? my husband is circ'd, but we both did research and realized it was a completely unnecessary practice so thankfully i had a husband that actually looked into this and didnt' just look down and say "duh he should be like me"

CousinVicki · May 2013

sleepy33:
I am hoping everyone here is aware that an erect, uncircumcised penis looks exactly like a circumcised penis, w/ regard to being 'sexually appealing' to future sex partners... to practice safe sex, not to rely on lack of a foreskin to protect him from HIV.

unfortunately many do NOT get this. *side eye

CousinVicki · May 2013

another crucial point that is overlooked with the HIV study in africa (despite it was an incredibly small study that should not be as cited as it is-- just for this reason). many areas of Africa practice a culturally accepted "dry sex" (ewww) and this causes abrasions , which makes it easier for HIV to pass on, obviously. So, taking THIS into account makes the study seem even more erroneous.

bkeane619 · May 2013

CousinVicki:
i am so disgusted by the "cleanliness factor" being a reason for circumcising. clearly you all have done ZERO research. and "leaving it up to the father" ??? really? Shouldnt you make an informed decision? my husband is circ'd, but we both did research and realized it was a completely unnecessary practice so thankfully i had a husband that actually looked into this and didnt' just look down and say "duh he should be like me"

lol was wondering where u were

CousinVicki · May 2013

bkeane619:
CousinVicki:
i am so disgusted by the "cleanliness factor" being a reason for circumcising. clearly you all have done ZERO research. and "leaving it up to the father" ??? really? Shouldnt you make an informed decision? my husband is circ'd, but we both did research and realized it was a completely unnecessary practice so thankfully i had a husband that actually looked into this and didnt' just look down and say "duh he should be like me"

lol was wondering where u were

so mad i am getting in on this late lol

bkeane619 · May 2013

CousinVicki:
bkeane619:
CousinVicki:
i am so disgusted by the "cleanliness factor" being a reason for circumcising. clearly you all have done ZERO research. and "leaving it up to the father" ??? really? Shouldnt you make an informed decision? my husband is circ'd, but we both did research and realized it was a completely unnecessary practice so thankfully i had a husband that actually looked into this and didnt' just look down and say "duh he should be like me"

lol was wondering where u were

so mad i am getting in on this late lol

don't worry it will come up again, and again, and again

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