DH and I had a "little" conversation last night, and I say little because it didn't last long, about having a second LO. He basically said he didn't want another one and he loves DS and that is enough. I asked him "Well, couldn't you love another one just the same?" and he didn't answer.
I told him it was really unfair of him to just say he didn't want any without even the possibility of talking about it again or thinking about it again in like 2 years. It's not like I was saying let's have one now, this very second. I was talking about a few years from now.
I asked him why and he didn't really answer me. Instead he looked at DS and said "Daddy upset Mommy." NO SH!T!!!!! He barely talked to me. I've always known DH wasn't that much of a children person, he's never really grown up around them like I have, but he's always knows how much I love them and how much I've wanted kids. We always joked around about how many we would have and laughed about things but never really had a set conversations as he's always kind of changed the topic. I just can't imagine never being pregnant again and never having a sibling for DS or another LO for me to love. I just can't picture it.
I know he'll come around to talking about it again, DS is only 8 months and we are just getting our new family life figured out, but it's still so upsetting and it's all I can think about right now.
Anyone else in the same boat where they want more and their DS doesn't, or vise versa? Sigh
Re: I needed to vent :(
Didn't you guys talk about the number of children you wanted before getting married? Your DS is only 8 months old. Maybe the newborn days are still pretty fresh in his mind and at this time he is still learning about your first DS that another child isn't on his radar.
While my DH and I knew going into marriage we would have atleast 2. Talking about a second one didn't happen until DD1 was 18 months. We were still learning about being parents and I had kind of a rough recovery from my vaginal birth when she was 8 months old.
Right now we are both kind of undecided if we will have a third. DD2 was a very difficult newborn and is just now coming around to being "easy" and "enjoyable" (as my husband put it). I would like a third (however ask me on different days and my answer is different...ha) and DH is still undecided. I see him look at newborns and he kind of melts so I have a feeling that once DD2 is getting close to 2 he might want another. But, if he doesn't...that is fine. Yes, I might grieve for being done with having children, but if my husband says we are done...we are done.
Goodbye little angel(7/22/2011)....see you in heaven
Goodbye my second angel (9/18/2011)
BFP: 10/27/2011 | EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/S
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
I'm sorry that happened to you. my DH is similar in that he doesn't really give a straight answer to a lot of things unless I sit him down ans say we NEED/HAVE to talk about this (whatever this happens to be at the time).
I only want to have one more (a girl preferably) but ONLY 1 more. I hated being pregnant especially in my third trimester, but want a sibling for DS. i would prefer for DS to be on his way out of diapers before we think about our second, I also want to enjoy DS's babyhood.
Once you have had a chance to cool down I would just tell your DH that you need to have an actual conversion about this (maybe when DS is asleep so he can't direct his attention to him and avoid the conversation). Keep it short and just let him know that you are thinking about another kid in the future and that you will need to discuss it. leave it as open ended as possible.
PS: Parker is flipping adorable! OMG! I love the lion one the most I think!
This....you guys should have had this discussion before you got married. Not to sound harsh but your husband is acting like a child himself acting the way he did. It's not like you're jumping his bones ttc right that second.
My DH and I kid around about having to get a 2nd job if we have another one but it's just playing. We had the kid talk before we even got engaged. We both agreed on 2 kids with the possibility of adopting 1 more, DH has 2 adopted sisters so he is all for it.
Thanks, NSYoder! The lion one is my favorite too!
I'm glad my husband isn't the only one who avoids topics. And yes, to what the other PP said, my DH does act like a child when it comes to having a serious coversation.
We did have a kids discussion before getting married, it just never included how many from his point of view. I always talked about 2 kids, and he never really agreed or disagreed with it, all he ever does is give a joking/sarcastic comment like "Haha... so you think so?"
I think what's best is for me to relax more and to have us enjoy Parker's babyhood together and make the most of it.
It doesn't help that all of our family/friends get involved and always ask when number 2 is going to happen. They always scare him off, they did that with "When are you going to propose?" and "so now that you are married, when are you having a baby?" That kind of stuff doesn't work with my DH, you basically have to leave him alone to come to the realization on his own. It's very frustrating at times, but I love him still!
BFP: 10/27/2011 | EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/S
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
This was very helpful to read, Jennifer. Thank you. I do feel like he'll change his tune, but like you said it's hard to hear out of the blue like we did. And yes, we both need to be okay with having more but also both being okay with being done. Thanks again.
BFP: 10/27/2011 | EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/S
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
Thanks, unaveragejane, and thank you for sharing your story/experience.
BFP: 10/27/2011 | EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/S
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
I think you have already been open and honest about your desire for more children with your DH. I think at this point, because your baby is still young, DH needs more time to process everything.
I seriously know how you feel. My DH and I went through the same convo. But we agreed to one and done and I changed my mind. It just took him time to understand how I felt. I just needed to hear from him that the time would come and we would try again. I was so in need of reassurance that he knew I wanted more children and that he was open to it that I annoyed and stressed the heck out of him over it. He is the logical thinker and he needed to think about money and space in our home and if our car was big enough before he could decide how he felt.
Ita. Op in one of your follow up posts you said "yes we did have the conversation. I said I wanted 2 and dh said nothing". That's not having a conversation!
You need to work on your communication skills in general before broaching the topic of more kids. Have you ever considered a short course of marriage counseling to tune up your communication? It could really help!
If my husband asked me if I wanted another right now, we wouldnt have a conversation. I would probably just give a weird little laugh and continue what I was doing *unless of course he really wanted to talk about it and then we would
I agree with PPs that maybe it is too soon for his mind to process having another one of these little things scooting around.
FWIW, I personally dont think this necessarily needs to be one of things completely hammered out before you get married. We said 1 or 2. Well, my pregnancy wiped our savings and we've really struggled with some issues PP. We werent expecting that and even though we said 2, alot has changed.
I wouldnt give up hope
Good luck
We don't need counseling, we actually do have a really great marriage. I'm more of the talker and he's not. It typically works for us, we just hit a bump.
After reading all the posts i really do think it's just too soon for him to even think about having more children and i know him well enough that i shouldn't have pushed the topic just yet. We do communicate, always have, he just doesn't get really vocal unless he's mentally ready and prepared. It's different but generally works for us.
I appreciate all the advice though, i just need to relax and give it more time.
BFP: 10/27/2011 | EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/S
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
THANK YOU!!! i agree with you completely!
BFP: 10/27/2011 | EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/S
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.