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laurid75
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update on my crazy high HCG levels - ***UPDATED***
laurid75
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I am still in shock and can't believe the experience I just had.
Recap - My first beta was huge - 9000 so they wanted to schedule u/s for today and they also sounded concerned that I may have ALREADY been pregnant when they did IUI.
Went in for the U/S and I heard the Dr ask the nurse "how many follicles did she have?" Nurse said "one" and then I said "oh no!" looked at the nurse and she held up three fingers to me. I lost it and started hysterically crying. The Dr looked around for awhile , took a bunch of picures, and then we talked inhis office. Basically he sees THREE "areas." he hesitated to call them sacs. One is larger than the other two, which would indicate an earlier and further along pregnancy. That would also explain my crazy high HCG levels. So basically there is a chance we conceived on our own at the end of Dec., and then again wth IUI - which then split into identical twins!!! During the u/s the nurse actually called another nurse in t hold my hand b/c I was such a total mess....The Dr did NOT see a heartbeat in the larger sac/area whatever the heck it is and that pregnancy (if it is one) would be like 7-7 1/2 weeks so I would think there would be a clear heartbeat by now???
They took more blood today and are checking that. They also think they might have CD3 bloodwork stll on hand and although estrogen and fsh didn't indicate pregnancy, they are going to re-scan for HCG. Then we need to wait and see what happens, another u/s in a week.
I'm totally in shock right now.
UPDATED: Dr called me himself. I was pregnant when they did the IUI. Had a very low level (5). This is bananas!!!
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Re: update on my crazy high HCG levels - ***UPDATED***
Oh my gosh. I did not know that was even possible! And I thought they always did a pregnancy test at CD 3? If not, they should start now.
I'm so sorry you are having such a crazy experience. I can't imagine how long this week will feel for you.
What if the bigger sac is a blighted ovum and the other two are viable? Is that a possibility?
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. -Philo
Baby N conceived after 1 miscarriage and more than 2 years of TTC. Diagnosis was low sperm count. We found success after 3 months of anastrozole to increase DH's testosterone and one IUI.
Some charts
I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not attractive. - Happy Gilmore
I suppose that is possible although i'm not sure how that would work and if they could survive? i have so many questions and not a lot of answers....
Saying a little prayer for you! I hope at least the ID twins are okay. I hope they are all okay. Oh, hun, I am so sorry. I hope a miracle happens and they all pull through.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
Was the 5 Beta from "CD 3" (or what they thought was CD 3) or from right before they did the IUI?
If that beta was just from right before the IUI, the bigger guy might be not as far along as they think because it would have just implanted a little before the IUI. Huge hugs and prayers for you!!!
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
This! I can't believe all this, I can only imagine how you feel. GL.
IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
beta #2 11/28 = 2055
Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
Wow! I didn't even know follicles would continue to develop after a pregnancy. I am so sorry you are going through this. I don't even know what to write because I can't even imagine what you are going through. I keep typing things and then deleting them because I am afraid it might not come out right and don't know what to say. I just can't even fathom the various emotions you must be experiencing. Not only the shock of finding out you may be pregnant with triplets, but everything else, too...I just pray for peace for you...
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
The power of Clomid I guess?
Wow about already being pregnant! That's so crazy. I wish you a good result on your next result and try to keep your head up.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. -Philo
Baby N conceived after 1 miscarriage and more than 2 years of TTC. Diagnosis was low sperm count. We found success after 3 months of anastrozole to increase DH's testosterone and one IUI.
Some charts
I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not attractive. - Happy Gilmore
2 years, 2 surgeries, 2 clomid fails, 2 IUIs, 1 loss, IVF #1 - 10/25/10 = BFP!, DS is now 3.5yrs!
TTC #2 - 6/12 surgery #3, FET #1 & 1.2 = BFN, 12/2012 FET #2 = BFP! DD is 1.5 yrs!
Surprise! 12/16/14 BFP, loss #2 12/31/14
I can't wait for the "im getting a divorce" post in 5 years or so because your husbands were fed up with your disgusting chair asses from playing on the knot all day and getting fired 4-5 times for not doing any work. you guys are all winners!! ~ Laur929
Trust me, I am. i was just too much in shock to really say anything about it other than ask him if they test for pregnancy on CD3 and he said no.....I was also hysterically crying....
Unexplained Infertility
After two Clomid cycles, three injectable IUI cycles, two IVFs, two miscarriages, and one lap surgery, IVF #2 has brought us our little boy!
TTC #2
After months of being postponed or cancelled, FET #1.3 (Natural FET) brought us twin girls!
I find it extremely odd that your doctor still has a tube of blood sitting around for a month.
Hope everything works out for you!
TTC#1 for 19 months with PCOS and MFI IUI#3 + injectables = BFP!!!! Beta#1-134(13dpiui) Beta #2-392(15dpiui)
#1 born December 2011
TTC#2 - Beta #1 -51@10dpo Beta#2 -1353 @16dpo
#2 born May 2013
TTC # 3 June 2014 BFP 12-1-14
#3 born August 2015
#4!!!!!!! due June 2017
A when doing an IUI they check your lining. They would notice a sac and a hearbeat!
B bloodwork would show high progesterone levels
C The RE clinic would have called Inside Edition already and this would be all over the damn news.......because it JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
MUD!
After 7 years trying to concieve, 3 failed IUIs and 2 failed IVFs, my third IVF was a success!
My Christmas baby turned into a turkey bird! Dillon Richard was born at 34 weeks, 5 days on November 28, 2009 after 10 weeks on bedrest for preeclampsia.
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After 7 years trying to concieve, 3 failed IUIs and 2 failed IVFs, my third IVF was a success!
My Christmas baby turned into a turkey bird! Dillon Richard was born at 34 weeks, 5 days on November 28, 2009 after 10 weeks on bedrest for preeclampsia.
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v705/arriinthere/PJ/?action=view
I once saw a 3 headed man at a carnival too.
After 7 years trying to concieve, 3 failed IUIs and 2 failed IVFs, my third IVF was a success!
My Christmas baby turned into a turkey bird! Dillon Richard was born at 34 weeks, 5 days on November 28, 2009 after 10 weeks on bedrest for preeclampsia.
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v705/arriinthere/PJ/?action=view
I feel bad for you that you are so bitter you have to tear apart people you don't know. And I feel bad for people who can't get support here because they have to prove themselves.
Superfecundation is really rare. And usually only happens within hours. Not days. Not with clomid. Not with fertility treatments. There's pretty much no part of this that makes sense. At all.
After 7 years trying to concieve, 3 failed IUIs and 2 failed IVFs, my third IVF was a success!
My Christmas baby turned into a turkey bird! Dillon Richard was born at 34 weeks, 5 days on November 28, 2009 after 10 weeks on bedrest for preeclampsia.
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v705/arriinthere/PJ/?action=view
I have to say that although this story does sound hard to believe (and the thought did go through my mind that it was MUD), I tend to give the OP the benefit of the doubt. Yes, she could be taking us all for fools, but she could also be telling the truth and if that is the case I would hate to not provide support to someone who is very much in need of support.
With no heartbeat, the first pregnancy probably was not a viable pregnancy which could explain why her levels were slow on CD 3 bloodwork that a pregnancy was not detected and why her hcg was only 5. If this was something like a blighted ovum, I think it is quite possible that her levels would not have risen normally.
Also, I can't speak for everyone's experience with Clomid/IUI, but when I did it, they did not check my lining at my RE's office. My RE did not check my lining or do an u/s at all of my uterus. (Now I had previously had an HSG and a hysterscopy.) All they did was a CD 3 ultrasound to check my ovaries for cysts and it was done by a tech and she was in and out in under 5 minutes. I'm not saying these are the "best" medical practices, but I am saying that if OP's was at an office like my RE's office, I think it would be possible that they did not see a pregnancy by ultrasound. Plus, you have to remember she would not have been very far along at this time so I am not even sure if anything would have shown up if the tech HAD been looking. I'm guessing her "period" was probably implantation bleeding so if her story is true you would have been talking about an embryo (or sac) that was only a matter of a few days old. And, again, if it was anything like the CD 3 ultrasounds I had, the tech probably wasn't checking the uterus for a pregnancy.
Is her story remarkable? Absolutely. But if we have been fooled then all we have wasted is a few minutes providing someone unneeded support (or entertainment). But if she is telling the truth, then I would hate to accuse her of lying when she clearly needs support. So, OP, I hope you come back here and update us. And I hope that things work out for you.
Edit: And as for the thought that she would not ovulate after the pregnancy, it is rare, but it does happen. There have been reported cases of twins being conceived weeks or even a month apart. If it can happen in nature without fertility drugs, I would suspect that it could happen with the use of fertility drugs...especially if her body did not recognize the first "pregnancy" as a true pregnancy. Is this MUD? Probably so. But I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt for now.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
While I would like to give OP the benefit of the doubt, I have to agree with this. I cannot understand why your doctor would keep old blood around after it's tested. That just seems hard to believe.
TTC #1 since 8/09, Dx MFI 4/10
IUI #1: 6/10 = Cancelled, IUI #2: 7/10 = Cancelled, IVF #1: 9/10 = BFP
Baby girl arrived - 6/14/11
TTC #2
IVF #2 - Oct/Nov 2012: 11/5 - eSET - 7 Frosties - BFP
Baby girl arrived - 7/17/13
TTC #3
FET #1 6/21/18
Thank you so much for this post. I agree with other posters that it makes ZERO sense to still have blood on hand. Also, I didn't have a CD3 ultrasound, only CD3 bloodwork and accoridng to the nurse they check FSH and Estrogen for any abnormalities. i can't make this stuff up. Each piece that I hear I am more and more flabbergasted. Can I explain it? Not in the slightest. Hell, if this wasn't me I would also think it was someone who is looney tunes. I have done a bit of research myself and see that there are 10 cases of this happening, babies born weeks apart. i haven't found documentation on any except one in alabama, and she was not on fertility drugs.
I'm calling another Dr today to make an appointment for a second opinion and I'm anxiously awaiting my U/S next Thursday to see if there are 1,2 oe 3 sacs in there. I am pretty convinced the first one sin't viable if he didn't see a heartbeat yesterday but I suppose anythign is possible.
Maybe you'll see me on the Today show someday and then you'll know I was telling the truth.
Meant to say babies CONCEIVED weeks apart
I would find that odd, too, except for the fact I have had something similar occur.
When I went in for my first beta at my RE's office, they did not test my progesterone. When the nurse called to give me the beta number a day or so later, I asked about my progesterone. She said they didn't test that...the orders weren't for that. Obviously, I was like "Are you kidding me!?!!!" I explained to the nurse that this was particularly concerning for me because I have always had a problem with short LP's--which indicates low progesterone. The nurse agreed with me that my progesterone needed to be checked asap. I then asked if I needed to come back in that day. When I let her know how much of an inconvenience this was (I was at work in downtown Houston and my RE's office--with the in-house lab--was near I-10 and Beltway 8), she told me that they could use some of the blood I had already given. Sure enough, she called me back later with the results. So, in my case, the lab at least kept the blood for a couple of days.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
OMG, I can't even wrap my head around this! I'm sorry there is so much confusion and ambiguity for you right now.
So if the first pg isn't viable, will it negatively impact the twin pregnancy? Or will it just disappear?