August 2013 Moms

forbidden foods based on your culture?

with all the dr's orders on what not to eat, are there any foods that are forbidden due to your culture? I'm Chinese and I hear all sorts of things. Some forbidden foods on the list:

bananas (although I ate a fair share before I told my family, and I want one so bad!)
shrimp (I've been eating this anyway)
bottled water
watermelon
sprouts
duck
lamb 

I think there's some things I'm forgetting because I probably don't eat it anyway. I'm really sad about the bananas and shrimp, everything else is meh. 

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Re: forbidden foods based on your culture?

  • Wait in your culture bottled water and bananas are forbidden during pregnancy? Watermelon also?

    How come can you please explain?

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  • basically bad for the fetus. I think they said watermelon and spring water are "cooling" foods. I still don't understand the banana thing. I think it's more of old wives tales per the culture.
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  • I think those are all old wives tales. Water is water.
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    basically bad for the fetus. I think they said watermelon and spring water are "cooling" foods. I still don't understand the banana thing. I think it's more of old wives tales per the culture.

    Cooling meaning like your baby won't be "cooking" anymore?

    Not trying to be snarky just trying to understand.

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    I think those are all old wives tales. Water is water.


    I get what you're saying, but if there was a strong negative association in my culture with something easy to avoid slash that didn't kill me to avoid... I think I'd have a hard time not heeding it. Call me superstitious, I guess.
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    imagecatskitch:
    basically bad for the fetus. I think they said watermelon and spring water are "cooling" foods. I still don't understand the banana thing. I think it's more of old wives tales per the culture.

    Cooling meaning like your baby won't be "cooking" anymore?

    Not trying to be snarky just trying to understand.

    I don't fully understand it either. I was just wondering if anybody else has something similar. I'm not going to question my mom or MIL or grandma or anybody who says otherwise. It's the first time I ever heard about the bottled spring water too, but I'm only going to take their advice with a grain of salt. 

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    imagehqinmd:
    I think those are all old wives tales. Water is water.


    I get what you're saying, but if there was a strong negative association in my culture with something easy to avoid slash that didn't kill me to avoid... I think I'd have a hard time not heeding it. Call me superstitious, I guess.


    I get this but what if the opposite has been proven true? ie watermelon is actually really good for you when pregnant. I don't feel like looking it up right now but remember reading all the health benefits for an expectant mother when I was pregnant with DD. just one example, also not trying to be snarky just curious?
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  • Never heard such a thing! I am interested in learning more. I know personally it would be hard for me to stay away from certain foods for no medical reason. I ate 30 watermelons the summer I was pregnant with charleigh!

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  • Bottled water is a relatively new thing - how can it be an old wives tale? :)

    Myself, I have cut out alcohol, caffeine, lunch meat, imitation sugars, some teas, raw pineapple, raw fish, and over the counter meds.

    I have limited my tuna/cooked fish intake.

    I stopped using my heating pad.


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    Bottled water is a relatively new thing how can it be an old wives tale? :Myself, I have cut out alcohol, caffeine, lunch meat, imitation sugars, some teas,nbsp;raw pineapple, raw fish, and over the counter meds. I have limited my tuna/cooked fish intake. I stopped using my heating pad.

    Most of those are medically advised, though. Not superstitions.

    And fair enough on the bottled water. But that seems so illogical. And fluids are important during pregnancy, and tap water is not always readily available if you're out and about.
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    Bottled water is a relatively new thing - how can it be an old wives tale? :)

    Myself, I have cut out alcohol, caffeine, lunch meat, imitation sugars, some teas, raw pineapple, raw fish, and over the counter meds.

    I have limited my tuna/cooked fish intake.

    I stopped using my heating pad.

    Whats wrong with pineapple? 

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  • :::lurking from July 2013:::

    My MIL is Taiwanese and some of the cultural advice she wants to tell me to avoid are similar to OP's. I just smile and nod. I drink bottled water and eat my shrimp etc. 

    If you want to adhere to your cultural traditions about food to avoid then that is up to you. Personally, I think if you want shrimp or whatever you should "cheat" and eat it. Your baby won't grow a *second or third head and be just as smart/successful and whatever than if you didn't eat it. I know its hard to believe otherwise when you've grown up expecting these things and being warned against them-- but truly.

    Do what makes you comfortable but if you really want something go for it!  

    edit: LOL your baby won't grow a second head either. I ate watermelon, shrimp and bananas during my pregnancy with DD and she is beautiful, healthy, ahead her in milestones and an adorable little diva to boot. She has one head, all her fingers and toes. 


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  • ok, so I found an article that sorta explains it. FWIW, the bottled water thing was from my MIL and they think bottle water is not good in general. I don't really believe it.

    My mom told me just to avoid the bananas during the first trimester for risk of miscarriage. the article below says that too.

    ethnomed.org/culture/chinese/chinese-cultural-profile

     

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    ok, so I found an article that sorta explains it. FWIW, the bottled water thing was from my MIL and they think bottle water is not good in general. I don't really believe it.

    My mom told me just to avoid the bananas during the first trimester for risk of miscarriage. the article below says that too.

    https://ethnomed.org/culture/chinese/chinese-cultural-profile 

    Sorry! The link isn't working. :( 


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    imagecinderin:

    Bottled water is a relatively new thing - how can it be an old wives tale? :)

    Myself, I have cut out alcohol, caffeine, lunch meat, imitation sugars, some teas, raw pineapple, raw fish, and over the counter meds.

    I have limited my tuna/cooked fish intake.

    I stopped using my heating pad.

    Whats wrong with pineapple? 

    Apparently raw pineapple has an enzyme that can induce contractions. Glad someone told me because I can eat a whole raw pineapple myself.


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    I think those are all old wives tales. Water is water.


    I get what you're saying, but if there was a strong negative association in my culture with something easy to avoid slash that didn't kill me to avoid... I think I'd have a hard time not heeding it. Call me superstitious, I guess.


    I get this but what if the opposite has been proven true? ie watermelon is actually really good for you when pregnant. I don't feel like looking it up right now but remember reading all the health benefits for an expectant mother when I was pregnant with DD. just one example, also not trying to be snarky just curious?


    That would be a harder decision for me, personally, then. I'd probably feel weird about eating it, and might look for alternatives. Idk. I guess I really AM superstitious.
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  • I generally jive with traditional Chinese medicine, but when it comes to fertility, the mixed messages/conflict with Western medicine can drive me batty.  Most of my Chinese friends value their family input highly, I can see how it'd kinda ruin watermelon for you.

    For me, culturally, I'd avoid squirrel.  ;)

    In seriousness, I have avoided soft cheeses, even tho I don't really believe they're that risky.  


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  • I'm Chinese too, and my Grandpa told me many times about 'hot' and 'cold' foods for different conditions. Some of them don't make sense logically, but it's just a cultural thing. Pregnancy is considered a 'hot' condition. I don't really follow all the rules but when I do I feel closer to my Grandpa!

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  • It all boils down to it being your pregnancy and your beliefs. I find it so interesting what different cultures believe in avoiding!

    With DS I avoided everything. Sushi, imitation sugars, nitrates, soda, diet soda, lunch meat, soft cheeses, fast food, and anything else you can think of that preggos aren't supposed to eat. I limited my fish intake to the ounces you are allowed to have and servings per week and types of ok fish.
    With this pregnancy I've been a smidge more lenient with myself but only because I had a week of 24 hour morning sickness. I am still sticking to most everything I did with DS. He turned out so healthy so I figure I must have done something right.
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  • You would have to eat A LOT of pineapple ton induce contractions. FYI. I avoid the norms. But I do think they are getting kind of ridiculous about what not to eat. But definitely avoid the alcohol even though I also beleive if you have a glass of wine a month you aren't going to do any harm. Buy I guess the jury is still out on that. I avoid unpasterized cheese not all soft cheeses. I also avoid anything that could be remotely undercooked. Miss my eggs overeasy.
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  • Sprouts is a real one to avoid, raw sprouts can have E. coli. The rest I'm pretty sure our just cultural old wives tales.

    I actually just heard of the hot/cold thing this week for the first time. We do amniocenteses at my work and a Chinese woman almost fainted. She was offended when we offered her cold water.
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    You would have to eat A LOT of pineapple ton induce contractions. FYI. I avoid the norms. But I do think they are getting kind of ridiculous about what not to eat. But definitely avoid the alcohol even though I also beleive if you have a glass of wine a month you aren't going to do any harm. Buy I guess the jury is still out on that. I avoid unpasterized cheese not all soft cheeses. I also avoid anything that could be remotely undercooked. Miss my eggs overeasy.
    We buy pasteurized eggs! Then you can eat them runny! I have seen them at almost every regular grocery store. 

    The pineapple thing sounds strange to me. 

    ETA, I just googled, appears you need to eat 7 whole pineapples (I believe including the cores)  

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  • My DH is from India and my MIL warns me not to eat papaya. Not medically necessary, but a cultural thing. She says it is bad for the baby and can cause m/c. I don't like papaya, so it's no big loss for me. She also thinks its bad for people to know I'm pregnant because they'll send evil thoughts my way and cause me and the baby harm.
  • I like how this straight forward cultural question turned into others saying why you better not follow grandmother's superstitions... or not even answering the question but instead going off on what they themselves are avoiding for commonly known health reasons (that I'm sure we've all read in many other threads already).
    smh

    As half Mexican I have not heard any food superstitions- but I do know if you really want to touch a pregnant belly and DON'T you are giving the baby bad luck. lol

    An Asian one I've heard is not to eat shell fish because then the baby will be allergic to many many things.

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  • This isn't necessarily a superstitious thing but my last pregnancy, there was a thread about Fiber One bars possibly causing contractions. Have any of you heard about this?
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    This isn't necessarily a superstitious thing but my last pregnancy, there was a thread about Fiber One bars possibly causing contractions. Have any of you heard about this?


    Lol. Well, I have to believe this kind of relates to the castor oil theory. Some women drink it to bring on labor...but most women just experience some major poops. Haha. Which some say can get things going. I dunno...I think fiber one bars or White Castle would be a way better induction method via the poops than castor oil! Hehe!
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    I like how this straight forward cultural question turned into others saying why you better not follow grandmother's superstitions... or not even answering the question but instead going off on what they themselves are avoiding for commonly known health reasons (that I'm sure we've all read in many other threads already).
    smh

    As half Mexican I have not heard any food superstitions- but I do know if you really want to touch a pregnant belly and DON'T you are giving the baby bad luck. lol

    An Asian one I've heard is not to eat shell fish because then the baby will be allergic to many many things.

    Seriously!

    No interesting cultural anecdotes for me, but I do remember thinking it was funny when the british tabloids were speculating that Kate Middleton was pregnant because she refused peanut paste, and pregnant women weren't supposed to eat peanuts.  I've NEVER heard that in the US. 

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  • Ok, now I'm freaking out. In these responses I see that someone wrote bananas cause miscarriages?? I read on another one if these boards two day ago that bananas help with m/s so I bought a bunch and have been eating them! And Fiber One bars are bad too? Does anyone have anything that backs up these claims so we're not just scaring people here?! Because I'm freaking.
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    Ok, now I'm freaking out. In these responses I see that someone wrote bananas cause miscarriages?? I read on another one if these boards two day ago that bananas help with m/s so I bought a bunch and have been eating them! And Fiber One bars are bad too? Does anyone have anything that backs up these claims so we're not just scaring people here?! Because I'm freaking.

    Relax, none of these are medically based. Old wives tales. My doc recommends eating  bananas 

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    imagejbean1325:
    Ok, now I'm freaking out. In these responses I see that someone wrote bananas cause miscarriages?? I read on another one if these boards two day ago that bananas help with m/s so I bought a bunch and have been eating them! And Fiber One bars are bad too? Does anyone have anything that backs up these claims so we're not just scaring people here?! Because I'm freaking.

    Relax, none of these are medically based. Old wives tales. My doc recommends eating  bananas 



    I think you totally missed the point of this thread. We were talking about cultural practices that aren't necessarily backed up by medical facts and old wives tales passed down.

    If bananas or fiber one bars were "bad" it would be on reputable websites like American pregnancy, the AMA, heck even web md.

    Jilly is right. Relaaaaax. I eat bananas all the time and gave birth to a very healthy boy though he may be part monkey because of it. :
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