Pregnant with #2

BlueJewelM · December 2012

Laurakat81:
pantherRN:
lanesmama09:
Of course this wasn't planned because we wanted to get married and have some us time before we started to have children of our own but we look at this as God's plan and know that he doesn't make any mistakes!
I find your comment on God's plan terribly offensive and short-sighted.
Wow! Really?!

I just read her post above and came searching for this one to see what in the world this girl could have said to piss everyone off AND I assumed I'd actually find it. I haven't even made it past your post and I'm offended by what you have to say panther! As a mother who has battled three years of infertility and lost three babies I don't find lanesmama's comment on God the slightest bit offensive! Why is she not allowed to say this is Gods plan for her?! It had nothing to do with anyone else but her! It's her opinion! I don't believe it was Gods "plan" for me to suffer so much heartache the last few years because the God I know doesn't work that way but she isn't sitting here telling me that God planned to kill my babies or make me suffer! And she said nothing about you either. Get a grip people! It had nothing to do with you!

Yes I don't believe in God. But I do believe that her intro post had nothing to do with anybody but herself and her story.

Welcome lanesmama and Congrats! Pardon our raging hormones and boredom at work/home while we watch the days SLOWLY go by waiting for our babies to grow!

lanesmama09 · December 2012

"Wow so much anger about people you don't even know believing in God...

I believe my pregnancies have been God's will and that my miscarriage was as well. I, for one, am glad people are standing up for their beliefs in the face of your ridiculous persecution and asking people to renounce their faith. Come on."

Thank you! I'm glad you're standing up for Him as well!

lanesmama09 · December 2012

BlueJewelM:
Laurakat81:
pantherRN:
lanesmama09:

Of course this wasn't planned because we wanted to get married and have some us time before we started to have children of our own but we look at this as God's plan and know that he doesn't make any mistakes!

I find your comment on God's plan terribly offensive and short-sighted.
Wow! Really?!

I just read her post above and came searching for this one to see what in the world this girl could have said to piss everyone off AND I assumed I'd actually find it. I haven't even made it past your post and I'm offended by what you have to say panther! As a mother who has battled three years of infertility and lost three babies I don't find lanesmama's comment on God the slightest bit offensive! Why is she not allowed to say this is Gods plan for her?! It had nothing to do with anyone else but her! It's her opinion! I don't believe it was Gods "plan" for me to suffer so much heartache the last few years because the God I know doesn't work that way but she isn't sitting here telling me that God planned to kill my babies or make me suffer! And she said nothing about you either. Get a grip people! It had nothing to do with you!

I don't believe in God. But I do believe that her intro post had nothing to do with anybody but herself and her story.

Welcome lanesmama and Congrats! Pardon our raging hormones and boredom at work/home while we watch the days SLOWLY go by waiting for our babies to grow!

Thank you so much and congrats to you as well! I do understand we all have crazy hormones right now! I wish you a happy and healty 9 months!

Mrs JillB · December 2012

rwenck:
BreanneL24:
Mrs JillB:
jlotero:
Mrs JillB:
Either:
1. You believe that god has a plan for everyone (not just you), and therefore you are saying that pregnancies/losses/IF is god's plan.
or
2. You admit that saying your pregnancy was god's will was tactless and you lady-up and say you're sorry.
So you're basically saying she should give up on her fundamental belief in God having a plan to make everyone else "feel" better. I am sorry, but sometimes standing up for a belief that you have will piss people off, but that doesn't mean you need to apologize for having that belief. Some things are just do not require any apology, this is one of them.
No, I guess you are right. There is a third option:
3. Own your beliefs like the a-hole you really are.
Wow so much anger about people you don't even know believing in God...
I believe my pregnancies have been God's will and that my miscarriage was as well. I, for one, am glad people are standing up for their beliefs in the face of your ridiculous persecution and asking people to renounce their faith. Come on.
Completely agree with you!

I will say it s.l.o.w.l.y so that everyone can understand..... I'm not ridiculing your belief in god. It is offensive to me that you believe that you know god's will and you think that that is the reason that anyone has been given/lost a pregnancy.

Laurakat81 · December 2012

Mrs JillB:
rwenck:
BreanneL24:
Mrs JillB:
jlotero:
Mrs JillB:
Either:
1. You believe that god has a plan for everyone (not just you), and therefore you are saying that pregnancies/losses/IF is god's plan.
or
2. You admit that saying your pregnancy was god's will was tactless and you lady-up and say you're sorry.
So you're basically saying she should give up on her fundamental belief in God having a plan to make everyone else "feel" better. I am sorry, but sometimes standing up for a belief that you have will piss people off, but that doesn't mean you need to apologize for having that belief. Some things are just do not require any apology, this is one of them.
No, I guess you are right. There is a third option:
3. Own your beliefs like the a-hole you really are.
Wow so much anger about people you don't even know believing in God...
I believe my pregnancies have been God's will and that my miscarriage was as well. I, for one, am glad people are standing up for their beliefs in the face of your ridiculous persecution and asking people to renounce their faith. Come on.
Completely agree with you!
I will say it s.l.o.w.l.y so that everyone can understand..... I'm not ridiculing your belief in god. It is offensive to me that you believe that you know god's will and you think that that is the reason that anyone has been given/lost a pregnancy.

NO ONE SAID ANYTHING OF THE SORT!!!! I do believe that each and every one of my children was God's plan. I do NOT believe that it was God's plan for them to die or for me to suffer. I believe all good things are His will and that when bad happens He grieves with us and yet I dont for even a second think He planned or wanted it that way . But if my opinion doesn't fit into the tiny box you think it should then I'm an *** too?! You know nothing of my life, my losses, my grief, or MY GOD! I don't know anything of God's plan for you or anyone else and the OP wasn't claiming to either.

This whole thing is so ridiculous. Are you really calling people assholes for having their own beliefs that don't have a thing to do with you?! It sounds to me like you've got some serious issues to work through and need to step back and decide if you should even be on a public forum if the words "God's will" are really that upsetting to you.

Mrs JillB · December 2012

Laurakat81:
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING OF THE SORT!!!! I do believe that each and every one of my children was God's plan. I do NOT believe that it was God's plan for them to die or for me to suffer. I believe all good things are His will and that when bad happens He grieves with us and yet I dont for even a second think He planned or wanted it that way . But if my opinion doesn't fit into the tiny box you think it should then I'm an *** too?! You know nothing of my life, my losses, my grief, or MY GOD! I don't know anything of God's plan for you or anyone else and the OP wasn't claiming to either.

This whole thing is so ridiculous. Are you really calling people assholes for having their own beliefs that don't have a thing to do with you?! It sounds to me like you've got some serious issues to work through and need to step back and decide if you should even be on a public forum if the words "God's will" are really that upsetting to you.

Huge eyeroll. Seriously.

BlueJewelM · December 2012

Mrs JillB:
rwenck:
BreanneL24:
Mrs JillB:
jlotero:
Mrs JillB:
Either:
1. You believe that god has a plan for everyone (not just you), and therefore you are saying that pregnancies/losses/IF is god's plan.
or
2. You admit that saying your pregnancy was god's will was tactless and you lady-up and say you're sorry.
So you're basically saying she should give up on her fundamental belief in God having a plan to make everyone else "feel" better. I am sorry, but sometimes standing up for a belief that you have will piss people off, but that doesn't mean you need to apologize for having that belief. Some things are just do not require any apology, this is one of them.
No, I guess you are right. There is a third option:
3. Own your beliefs like the a-hole you really are.
Wow so much anger about people you don't even know believing in God...
I believe my pregnancies have been God's will and that my miscarriage was as well. I, for one, am glad people are standing up for their beliefs in the face of your ridiculous persecution and asking people to renounce their faith. Come on.
Completely agree with you!
I will say it s.l.o.w.l.y so that everyone can understand..... I'm not ridiculing your belief in god. It is offensive to me that you believe that you know god's will and you think that that is the reason that anyone has been given/lost a pregnancy.

But she didn't say that she thought that was the reason ANYONE has been given/lost a pregnancy. She says that it was why she believed SHE was given/lost a pregnancy.

There is a huge difference. Stop personalizing someone's personal relationship with their creator and stop beating this horse. You done beat it. Really.

My atheist ass is getting back to more fun topics.

Mrs JillB · December 2012

BreanneL24:
Mrs JillB:
rwenck:
BreanneL24:
Mrs JillB:
jlotero:
Mrs JillB:
Either:
1. You believe that god has a plan for everyone (not just you), and therefore you are saying that pregnancies/losses/IF is god's plan.
or
2. You admit that saying your pregnancy was god's will was tactless and you lady-up and say you're sorry.
So you're basically saying she should give up on her fundamental belief in God having a plan to make everyone else "feel" better. I am sorry, but sometimes standing up for a belief that you have will piss people off, but that doesn't mean you need to apologize for having that belief. Some things are just do not require any apology, this is one of them.
No, I guess you are right. There is a third option:
3. Own your beliefs like the a-hole you really are.
Wow so much anger about people you don't even know believing in God...
I believe my pregnancies have been God's will and that my miscarriage was as well. I, for one, am glad people are standing up for their beliefs in the face of your ridiculous persecution and asking people to renounce their faith. Come on.
Completely agree with you!
I will say it s.l.o.w.l.y so that everyone can understand..... I'm not ridiculing your belief in god. It is offensive to me that you believe that you know god's will and you think that that is the reason that anyone has been given/lost a pregnancy.
And I will say it again s.l.o.w.l.y. for you. Not a single person has made the generalization that God has caused anyone else's loss/IF/pregnancy. I believe my situation was a direct result of God's will but neither I nor anyone has said anything about your situation or anyone else's other than their own. And I'm not sorry that you're offended by my faith. And calling us as.sholes for believing this way sure seems like religious persecution to me.

Someone call the ACLU!

MkWaltrip15 · December 2012

Welcome Lanesmom! It's so nice to have you. Trusting God's will in our lives is a difficult thing to do... But I trust His will as well. We tried for 15 months to get pregnant and for 15 months I trusted there was a reason it wasn't happening yet - either we weren't financially ready, mentally ready, or physically ready. Sure enough, we are now pregnant with our first and thankful - and I believe the 15 months I had to wait prepared me to be a better mom, and a more thankful mom - who was given time to get healthy!

My brother, whose wife suffered two early miscarriages and then a stillborn prayed for God's Will to take place in our lives. After the devastation he and his wife experienced with their three losses 15 years ago, he still believed it was God's Will. God certainly didn't want them to suffer - but it happened that way for a reason. They too, feel they were able to be better and more appreciative parents - and were able to discover a major health problem with his wife, that had they not found it before they had a baby - could have changed their story for the worse.

I realize your post was a Happy JOYFUL MOMENT for you, and I am sorry that people feel the need to take that away and read into everything and stir up drama. THAT, is exactly why I don't post on here, because it's like being in high school all over again. I can only IMAGINE the crap I will take for this post, and I don't care.

You are entitled to feel blessed by God's Will. If people don't like that, then ignore the post and move the hell on!

s2elcraf · December 2012

OMFG! I may not believe in gods plan but I believe in karma. You people are total bitches. No wonder you spend all your time on the Internet because you sure as hell don't have real friends if you act like that. Why can't you just be happy for someone and if you don't have anything nice to say keep your trap shut. I have had a miscarriage and in no way found her comment offensive. I think your kids or pets need attention go tend to them!

Mrs JillB · December 2012

s2elcraf:
OMFG! I may not believe in gods plan but I believe in karma. You people are total bitches. No wonder you spend all your time on the Internet because you sure as hell don't have real friends if you act like that. Why can't you just be happy for someone and if you don't have anything nice to say keep your trap shut. I have had a miscarriage and in no way found her comment offensive. I think your kids or pets need attention go tend to them!

Speaking of paying attention to your kids, you little girl's carseat is not made to have that extra padding on the straps. It makes the straps less effective in a car accident.

Fletcha · December 2012

Mrs JillB:
s2elcraf:
OMFG! I may not believe in gods plan but I believe in karma. You people are total bitches. No wonder you spend all your time on the Internet because you sure as hell don't have real friends if you act like that. Why can't you just be happy for someone and if you don't have anything nice to say keep your trap shut. I have had a miscarriage and in no way found her comment offensive. I think your kids or pets need attention go tend to them!
Speaking of paying attention to your kids, you little girl's carseat is not made to have that extra padding on the straps. It makes the straps less effective in a car accident.

Nice try, but it looks like those are stock pads. A lot of car seats come with them.

I know my opinion isn't welcome, but your treatment of someone who made a very normal, innocent and genuinely happy statement is really appalling and I know I'm not alone in making the decision to not participate on this board if this kind of thing will be the status quo. I'm saddened by it, really. Are you really so easily offended and quick to attack in your day to day life? This kind of "snark" isn't funny, at least to most of us mothers here.

Mrs JillB · December 2012

Fletcha:
Mrs JillB:
s2elcraf:
OMFG! I may not believe in gods plan but I believe in karma. You people are total bitches. No wonder you spend all your time on the Internet because you sure as hell don't have real friends if you act like that. Why can't you just be happy for someone and if you don't have anything nice to say keep your trap shut. I have had a miscarriage and in no way found her comment offensive. I think your kids or pets need attention go tend to them!
Speaking of paying attention to your kids, you little girl's carseat is not made to have that extra padding on the straps. It makes the straps less effective in a car accident.
Nice try, but it looks like those are stock pads. A lot of car seats come with them.
I know my opinion isn't welcome, but your treatment of someone who made a very normal, innocent and genuinely happy statement is really appalling and I know I'm not alone in making the decision to not participate on this board if this kind of thing will be the status quo. I'm saddened by it, really. Are you really so easily offended and quick to attack in your day to day life? This kind of "snark" isn't funny, at least to most of us mothers here.

I truly was not snarking, Fletcha. I know your story and even before that I would never joke about something like that. Carseat safety is something I am very passionate about. I'm kind of the go-to in my group for all things carseat related.

ETA: They don't look like stock to me because they're a different color.

Fletcha · December 2012

Mrs JillB:
Fletcha:
Mrs JillB:
s2elcraf:
OMFG! I may not believe in gods plan but I believe in karma. You people are total bitches. No wonder you spend all your time on the Internet because you sure as hell don't have real friends if you act like that. Why can't you just be happy for someone and if you don't have anything nice to say keep your trap shut. I have had a miscarriage and in no way found her comment offensive. I think your kids or pets need attention go tend to them!
Speaking of paying attention to your kids, you little girl's carseat is not made to have that extra padding on the straps. It makes the straps less effective in a car accident.
Nice try, but it looks like those are stock pads. A lot of car seats come with them.
I know my opinion isn't welcome, but your treatment of someone who made a very normal, innocent and genuinely happy statement is really appalling and I know I'm not alone in making the decision to not participate on this board if this kind of thing will be the status quo. I'm saddened by it, really. Are you really so easily offended and quick to attack in your day to day life? This kind of "snark" isn't funny, at least to most of us mothers here.
I truly was not snarking, Fletcha. I know your story and even before that I would never joke about something like that. Carseat safety is something I am very passionate about. I'm kind of the go-to in my group for all things carseat related.
ETA: They don't look like stock to me because they're a different color.

I know you weren't snarking about the straps and I agree they look slightly different, but that doesn't mean they're dangerous. It's not something I would have brought up against that poster, but that's your prerogative. I'm glad you are able to be a resource for car seat advice in your group.

And I want to clarify my feelings about the attacks against OP are not just aimed at you. I think anyone who has participated in this overblown drama should consider if they really want to contribute to this type of atmosphere. It is very sad to me to see this birth club get so ugly so early on over something so trivial.

Mrs JillB · December 2012

Fletcha:
Mrs JillB:
Fletcha:
Mrs JillB:
s2elcraf:
OMFG! I may not believe in gods plan but I believe in karma. You people are total bitches. No wonder you spend all your time on the Internet because you sure as hell don't have real friends if you act like that. Why can't you just be happy for someone and if you don't have anything nice to say keep your trap shut. I have had a miscarriage and in no way found her comment offensive. I think your kids or pets need attention go tend to them!
Speaking of paying attention to your kids, you little girl's carseat is not made to have that extra padding on the straps. It makes the straps less effective in a car accident.
Nice try, but it looks like those are stock pads. A lot of car seats come with them.
I know my opinion isn't welcome, but your treatment of someone who made a very normal, innocent and genuinely happy statement is really appalling and I know I'm not alone in making the decision to not participate on this board if this kind of thing will be the status quo. I'm saddened by it, really. Are you really so easily offended and quick to attack in your day to day life? This kind of "snark" isn't funny, at least to most of us mothers here.
I truly was not snarking, Fletcha. I know your story and even before that I would never joke about something like that. Carseat safety is something I am very passionate about. I'm kind of the go-to in my group for all things carseat related.
ETA: They don't look like stock to me because they're a different color.
I know you weren't snarking about the straps and I agree they look slightly different, but that doesn't mean they're dangerous. It's not something I would have brought up against that poster, but that's your prerogative. I'm glad you are able to be a resource for car seat advice in your group.
And I want to clarify my feelings about the attacks against OP are not just aimed at you. I think anyone who has participated in this overblown drama should consider if they really want to contribute to this type of atmosphere. It is very sad to me to see this birth club get so ugly so early on over something so trivial.

I think that we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

lanesmama09 · December 2012

MkWaltrip15:

Welcome Lanesmom! It's so nice to have you. Trusting God's will in our lives is a difficult thing to do... But I trust His will as well. We tried for 15 months to get pregnant and for 15 months I trusted there was a reason it wasn't happening yet - either we weren't financially ready, mentally ready, or physically ready. Sure enough, we are now pregnant with our first and thankful - and I believe the 15 months I had to wait prepared me to be a better mom, and a more thankful mom - who was given time to get healthy!

My brother, whose wife suffered two early miscarriages and then a stillborn prayed for God's Will to take place in our lives. After the devastation he and his wife experienced with their three losses 15 years ago, he still believed it was God's Will. God certainly didn't want them to suffer - but it happened that way for a reason. They too, feel they were able to be better and more appreciative parents - and were able to discover a major health problem with his wife, that had they not found it before they had a baby - could have changed their story for the worse.

I realize your post was a Happy JOYFUL MOMENT for you, and I am sorry that people feel the need to take that away and read into everything and stir up drama. THAT, is exactly why I don't post on here, because it's like being in high school all over again. I can only IMAGINE the crap I will take for this post, and I don't care.

You are entitled to feel blessed by God's Will. If people don't like that, then ignore the post and move the hell on!

Thank you so much. I'm so glad that you understand. This is a happy and joyful moment for me and all I was trying to do was share that with other women who I thought were also happy about their babies and would understand where I was coming from. I also agree with you 100% that I am entitled to feel blessed by God's will and I'm just going to move on from now on if someone doesn't like that. I believe that there were just as many people on here that weren't offended by what I said just as there were people that were. Thank you for being so sweet. Your post really made me feel alot better!

lanesmama09 · December 2012

I just wanted to clear everything up about what I said. First of all, I will say this: I'm sorry if you took what I said the wrong way and it offended you. However, I am not going to apologize for believing that God had a reason for me to get pregnant at this point in my life. I have the right to believe in God and his plan for MY life just like anyone else has the right to believe whatever they want. I was in no way saying that It was God's will for anyone to hurt or anyone to have a MC or anything like that. I was simply excited about MY pregnany and chose to believe it was a gift from God whom I personally believe in. I have PCOS and it took me 2 years to get pregnant with my first son, so I know the heartache that people go through because I have been there myself. I also have cousins and other family members that have suffered a MC and I woudln't wish that on anyone and I was certainly in NO WAY saying that it was God's will for that to happen to anyone! If that had been what I was trying to say then I would have said it that way. People just read into what I said and made it mean what they wanted it to mean. I came to this board to try and find women who were going through the same thing as me and who I could share my excitement with. Thank you to the few of you that actually did congradulate me. It's means a lot to me and reguarless of who you are or what you do or do not believe in, I hope you all have a happy and healty 9 months

MkWaltrip15 · December 2012

lanesmama09:
MkWaltrip15:

Thank you so much. I'm so glad that you understand. This is a happy and joyful moment for me and all I was trying to do was share that with other women who I thought were also happy about their babies and would understand where I was coming from. I also agree with you 100% that I am entitled to feel blessed by God's will and I'm just going to move on from now on if someone doesn't like that. I believe that there were just as many people on here that weren't offended by what I said just as there were people that were. Thank you for being so sweet. Your post really made me feel alot better!

I am happy to hear it made you feel better. Congratulations and I pray you have a happy and healthy 9 months!!

lanesmama09 · December 2012

MkWaltrip15:
lanesmama09:
MkWaltrip15:

Thank you so much. I'm so glad that you understand. This is a happy and joyful moment for me and all I was trying to do was share that with other women who I thought were also happy about their babies and would understand where I was coming from. I also agree with you 100% that I am entitled to feel blessed by God's will and I'm just going to move on from now on if someone doesn't like that. I believe that there were just as many people on here that weren't offended by what I said just as there were people that were. Thank you for being so sweet. Your post really made me feel alot better!

I am happy to hear it made you feel better. Congratulations and I pray you have a happy and healthy 9 months!!

Congratulations to you as well and I also pray for a happy & healthy 9 months for you!! :)

m1ssl1ss · December 2012

lanesmama09:

Thank you so much! I in no way meant what I said to be offensive to anyone. And I certainly don't believe that anyone who has suffered a loss or had heartache did so because it was God's will. I just see this pregnancy as a blessing from the Lord. I appreciate your support so very much!

This. Not everyone believes it's a two way street. How narrow-minded would you be if you were to think that everyone who believes in God believes in exactly the same thing and they're all crazy? Don't be silly.
Believers are not all Westboro.

lanesmama09 · December 2012

m1ssl1ss:
lanesmama09:

Thank you so much! I in no way meant what I said to be offensive to anyone. And I certainly don't believe that anyone who has suffered a loss or had heartache did so because it was God's will. I just see this pregnancy as a blessing from the Lord. I appreciate your support so very much!

This. Not everyone believes it's a two way street. How narrow-minded would you be if you were to think that everyone who believes in God believes in exactly the same thing and they're all crazy? Don't be silly.
Believers are not all Westboro.

I don't understand what you're trying to say by that. I'm sorry.

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