The doctor was wrong, and it could have harmed my baby.

pghctwife · November 2012

Y I Oughta:
I'm not going off on a tangent. I stated that I was angry and annoyed. I waited 13 weeks for someone to answer my question. I can only assume that someone would have looked at the results. I asked four different people the same question and each of them told me they would look into it but if they actually had they would have seen that the results were normal and the comment was wrong. That is why I'm angry. Instead of looking at the results and questioning they simply said u/s. What if it had been a more severe test they ordered because nobody bothered to look like they said they would. Maybe this time it was "just an u/s" but it could have been more serious and not one person stopped to question it but me.

The thing is... it WAS just an u/s. No 'severe' tests were ordered - and if they had you could have refused anyhow.

Why dont you understand that they can not psychically know that the one set of data was correct but the comments were wrong and not vice versa? And that a NORMAL response is th confirm via u/s? If you are so uncomfortable wtih that then you say no. But the Dr and CNM are not FORCING YOU into INVASIVE procedures by suggesting a follow up u/s.

Y I Oughta · November 2012

ct bride, my tablet won't let me quote you. In 2 you say they have no reason to go back over and reanalyze the numbers. I disagree because my questioning it should have been the reason. I didn't say they should double check every persons results.

As I said before, the numbers from both u/s showed normal. I could see that the numbers were similar and three weeks between should show a little growth, which it did. It was the added comment at the end that stated abnormal. The simple fact that both u/s showed a normal number in the measurement should have been enough. Nobody looked at the measurements, only the comment. So there was already a second u/s that would have confirmed the normal result.

jessrenee11 · November 2012

Pgh-CTBride:
Y I Oughta:
I'm not going off on a tangent. I stated that I was angry and annoyed. I waited 13 weeks for someone to answer my question. I can only assume that someone would have looked at the results. I asked four different people the same question and each of them told me they would look into it but if they actually had they would have seen that the results y normal and the comment was wrong. That is why I'm angry. Instead of looking at the results and questioning they simply said u/s. What if it had been a more severe test they ordered because nobody bothered to look like they said they would. Maybe this time it was "just an u/s" but it could have been more serious and not one person stopped to question it but me. 
The thing is... it WAS just an u/s. No 'severe' tests were ordered  - and if they had you could have refused anyhow. 
Why dont you understand that they can not psychically know that the one set of data was correct but the comments were wrong and not vice versa? And that a NORMAL response is th confirm via u/s? If you are so uncomfortable wtih that then you say no. But the Dr and CNM are not FORCING YOU into INVASIVE procedures by suggesting a follow up u/s. 

exactly! Have you never had to double check something? Obviously if there is conflicting information and you dont know which one it is, it only makes sense to do whatever you had to do to get the right results.

jessrenee11 · November 2012

Y I Oughta:
ct bride, my tablet won't let me quote you. In 2 you say they have no reason to go back over and reanalyze the numbers. I disagree because my questioning it should have been the reason. I didn't say they should double check every persons results. As I said before, the numbers from both u/s showed normal. I could see that the numbers were similar and three weeks between should show a little growth, which it did. It was the added comment at the end that stated abnormal. The simple fact that both u/s showed a normal number in the measurement should have been enough. Nobody looked at the measurements, only the comment. So there was already a second u/s that would have confirmed the normal result.nbsp;

maybe they didnt feel comfortable with that. Maybe just to be on the safe side they wanted to take another look.

Y I Oughta · November 2012

There were two sets of data to compare, not one. I stated that in my op.

goofyteacher · November 2012

::beats head against a brick wall::

jessrenee11 · November 2012

Y I Oughta:
There were two sets of data to compare, not one. I stated that in my op.nbsp;

all I am trying to say is that all your Dr. was trying to do is ease your mind. Seriously who is to say one of the measurements could have been off and not the comment. I dont think they would have automatically sent for an amio with out taking a look on an u/s so I think you are overreacting about that. Yes I would be annoyed to but they are trying to figure out if there is an abnormally or not. Thats all

clariknittist · November 2012

Anyone else have a headache??

jessrenee11 · November 2012

Maybe you need to find a new Dr. Obviously you are not happy with the one you have.

Mama5181 · November 2012

clariknittist:
Anyone else have a headache??

Yes

Y I Oughta · November 2012

And all I am saying is that I have a right to be upset by something that has caused me uneccesary fear and anxiety for 13 weeks because nobody actually looked when they said they would. I've already admitted that maybe I am overreacting, but none of you have the right to tell me my feelings are wrong. My doctor told me it could be microcepahly, which has caused me a ton of anxiety for 13 weeks. Only to find out all of this is because they didn't actually look into it when they said they would. The MW just told me that I have nothing to worry about and there is no concern after actually reading the measurements.

I'm pretty sure anyone would have some anger and anxiety over something like that.

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

Raeily · November 2012

clariknittist:
Anyone else have a headache??

Yes... I thought it was the pre-e but it must be this thread.

LaurelBee · November 2012

goofyteacher:
::beats head against a brick wall::

Yes

First, I'll say that I understand your frustration bc you feel like you're not getting the kind of care you want. Have a sit down convo and talk to your care provider about your options, fears, and your own research.

Secondly, I agree with almost everything CTbride has said. I think you're way over reacting and your staunch stance on how YOU were mistreated or wronged by your care providers is misplaced. You're coming off as someone who has more trust in your ability to determine what problems there are vs allowing your care provider the opportunity to dig a little deeper and get real and accurate results.

I am planning a HB, so I can totally relate to not wanting any unnecessary interventions or tests, but if I thought for a second my baby might not be growing properly, you bet your bum I'd want an US to prove/disprove. Especially since that would most definitely alter my plans to birth out of hospital if there was a chance my baby would need to go to the Nicu.

hansonam446 · November 2012

OP you should just probably fire your Dr, your Midwife and rely exclusively on Dr. Google for all your medical needs here on out. He'll never try and give you a follow up u/s.

martha919 · November 2012

Y I Oughta:

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

So, you have the right to vent, and the right to tell anonymous strangers on a public internet forum not to respond however the hell they want to on it? Wow. You must be superwoman.

LaurelBee · November 2012

Also, back in the day researchers thought ice cream was the cause of Polio bc the huge hike in cases during the summer when ice cream was it its peak selling point. Obviously they were wrong.

They also blamed autism on vax's and were proved wrong. I don't blame researchers for questioning if there is a link between USs and autism, but if there was any kind of evidentiary support, we'd all know about it by now. One extra US will not be the tipping point that will give your LO autism IMO. But I'm not a Dr so take my opinion with a grain of salt...

Y I Oughta · November 2012

I didn't do my homework via google, never implied anyone else was harming thier babies, or claimed to be better than anyone. The amnio could have harmed my baby and I am avoiding the u/s because I feel that it could be potentially harmful when not medically necesarry, which it wasn't, because the measurements were normal. That doesn't mean I think I'm better than anyone. I don't have to link up all of my research on a subject to feel it's not right for me. The nonchalance of them throwing around the amnio and additional tests upset me

If they were studying the way anything could be linked to autism I would avoid it. I only stated that I am avoiding it because they are studying it, not that you are ensuring your baby will have it.

pghctwife · November 2012

PrivacyWanted:
Y I Oughta:

And all I am saying is that I have a right to be upset by something that has caused me uneccesary fear and anxiety for 13 weeks because nobody actually looked when they said they would. I've already admitted that maybe I am overreacting, but none of you have the right to tell me my feelings are wrong. My doctor told me it could be microcepahly, which has caused me a ton of anxiety for 13 weeks. Only to find out all of this is because they didn't actually look into it when they said they would. The MW just told me that I have nothing to worry about and there is no concern after actually reading the measurements.

I'm pretty sure anyone would have some anger and anxiety over something like that.

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

If your title didn't include "and it could have harmed my baby." I don't think people, including myself, would be responding the same way. It's that line that got to me.
And in your OP the focus seemed to be the anger over the potential u/s than "they didn't really do their homework."

The whole tone implies that those of us who have additional u/s out of medical necessity are somehow harming our babies, ensuring they'll be autistic, whereas you are far better than us and do your homework via google to avoid them

Yes

Exactly.

clariknittist · November 2012

Y I Oughta:

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

Hey come on, this is a tough thread to decipher, and I'm pretty sure we all have baby brain! Too bad you jumped to a conclusion about my "headache" as it was meant generally, not personally...oh well.

pghctwife · November 2012

Y I Oughta:
I didn't do my homework via google, never implied anyone else was harming thier babies, or claimed to be better than anyone. The amnio could have harmed my baby and I am avoiding the u/s because I feel that it could be potentially harmful when not medically necesarry, which it wasn't, because the measurements were normal. That doesn't mean I think I'm better than anyone. I don't have to link up all of my research on a subject to feel it's not right for me. The nonchalance of them throwing around the amnio and additional tests upset me
If they were studying the way anything could be linked to autism I would avoid it. I only stated that I am avoiding it because they are studying it, not that you are ensuring your baby will have it.

Honest question: do you believe you were going to be forced into an amnio? Because, truly, you maintain the right to refuse that. I cant think of any other reason why you would be so upset at the amnio being put on the table as an option down the road. You and your Drs were all concerned about some very serious complications. And amnio isnt something to be taken lightly IMO - but neither are those health risks.

Runner313 · November 2012

PrivacyWanted:
Y I Oughta:

And all I am saying is that I have a right to be upset by something that has caused me uneccesary fear and anxiety for 13 weeks because nobody actually looked when they said they would. I've already admitted that maybe I am overreacting, but none of you have the right to tell me my feelings are wrong. My doctor told me it could be microcepahly, which has caused me a ton of anxiety for 13 weeks. Only to find out all of this is because they didn't actually look into it when they said they would. The MW just told me that I have nothing to worry about and there is no concern after actually reading the measurements.

I'm pretty sure anyone would have some anger and anxiety over something like that.

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

If your title didn't include "and it could have harmed my baby." I don't think people, including myself, would be responding the same way. It's that line that got to me.
And in your OP the focus seemed to be the anger over the potential u/s than "they didn't really do their homework."

The whole tone implies that those of us who have additional u/s out of medical necessity are somehow harming our babies, ensuring they'll be autistic, whereas you are far better than us and do your homework via google to avoid them

Yes

Raeily · November 2012

clariknittist:
Y I Oughta:

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

Hey come on, this is a tough thread to decipher, and I'm pretty sure we all have baby brain! Too bad you jumped to a conclusion about my "headache" as it was meant generally, not personally...oh well.

Yeah, it's not a personal comment, this thread is just a lot.

laurapacheco · November 2012

Y I Oughta:

And all I am saying is that I have a right to be upset by something that has caused me uneccesary fear and anxiety for 13 weeks because nobody actually looked when they said they would. I've already admitted that maybe I am overreacting, but none of you have the right to tell me my feelings are wrong. My doctor told me it could be microcepahly, which has caused me a ton of anxiety for 13 weeks. Only to find out all of this is because they didn't actually look into it when they said they would. The MW just told me that I have nothing to worry about and there is no concern after actually reading the measurements.

I'm pretty sure anyone would have some anger and anxiety over something like that.

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

Sorry OP, but welcome to The Bump. Heck, welcome to the interwebs.

mgade001 · November 2012

EAMommy:
FurtureMrsCurtis:
Y I Oughta:
Sending me to get an amnio could have caused me to go into preterm labor. Which the midwife told me when I was there. I am also avoiding the extra u/s because of the possibility that too many can be harmful to a fetus. Both of which could have harmed my baby.
I can understand being cautious but if an ultrasound could simply confirm things are ok I would think you'd want to go that route. FWIW I will have had 20. Yes that's right twenty ultrasounds by the end of this pregnancy due to early issues. And not ONE person has said to me "oh my goodness you're giving your baby autism."
This. I've had 10... All were necessary due to issues that arose.

Yeah, I've been getting u/s monthly and now have to go for an MRI. Not ideal, but I'm going to go with what the professionals think is safest.

That said, OP- I can see where you're coming from. It sounds like a sloppy mistake. But I agree with everyone else, you're giving it too much energy. As someone who is going through a tough pregnancy with A LOT of risks, my advice to you is to just be grateful that things are going well.

Magenta728 · November 2012

Y I Oughta:

And all I am saying is that I have a right to be upset by something that has caused me uneccesary fear and anxiety for 13 weeks because nobody actually looked when they said they would. I've already admitted that maybe I am overreacting, but none of you have the right to tell me my feelings are wrong. My doctor told me it could be microcepahly, which has caused me a ton of anxiety for 13 weeks. Only to find out all of this is because they didn't actually look into it when they said they would. The MW just told me that I have nothing to worry about and there is no concern after actually reading the measurements.

I'm pretty sure anyone would have some anger and anxiety over something like that.

For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

I thought 13 weeks ago was your original u/s and all the measurements weren't taken? You didn't find out about this possible microencephaly until later.

SWOG31 · November 2012

Y I Oughta:
And all I am saying is that I have a right to be upset by something that has caused me uneccesary fear and anxiety for 13 weeks because nobody actually looked when they said they would. I've already admitted that maybe I am overreacting, but none of you have the right to tell me my feelings are wrong. My doctor told me it could be microcepahly, which has caused me a ton of anxiety for 13 weeks. Only to find out all of this is because they didn't actually look into it when they said they would. The MW just told me that I have nothing to worry about and there is no concern after actually reading the measurements.
I'm pretty sure anyone would have some anger and anxiety over something like that.
For those of you with a "headache", nobody told you to read or respond. I have a right to vent.

Nope, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been angry over this. As for the anxiety, I would have had the u/s immediately after it was 1st suggested just so I wouldn't live with the anxiety for longer than necessary.

jobiann · November 2012

FurtureMrsCurtis:
clariknittist:
Anyone else have a headache??

Oh God, me!!

smwiggle · November 2012

Even if you had 2 u/s, one of the u/s showed that the analysis of the results that there could be a problem. Even though this was due to a typo, the doc would order an extra u/s to confirm whether there was a problem or not. Any medical professional or scientist will do multiple tests to confirm a diagnosis.

As for your midwife non-chalantly throwing out an amino, all she said was that if the u/s showed a problem then an amino could be the next step to confirm. Again, as pp have stated, the amino would have been optional, no doc can make you do anything you don't want to do. You brought up your concerns to her, and she gave you an option of what you can do, so I don't understand your anger towards your midwife.

Kay1029 · November 2012

PrivacyWanted:
Y I Oughta:
My whole point is that this could have all been avoided if someone had just looked at the results instead of just sending my for more tests.

But aren't you now in a position where you don't know which is off...the measurement or the percentile? Sure, the measurement written down is in the 30th...but for some reason they wrote down 4%...maybe the 4% is correct, and the measurement was written down.

It seems your midwife just wants to check so she knows the reason, and can/could ally your fears.
But since you've gotten all the answers you need/want from Dr. Google, I guess that doesn't matter

COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!! There are so many different numbers and measurements that go into an US that either number could be wrong. What if the actual measurement was wrong and not just the percentile? I think you are being absolutely ridiculous in this case. You brought up concerns, your CMF, hospital doc, AND US tech ALL thought it was a good idea for you to get a follow up US based on YOUR concerns. NO ONE has sched you an amnio. It was simply said by your CMF that it COULD happen if the results came back abnormal.

As for you not wanting to get the extra U/S based on a study that the CDC is doing right now.. I just shake my head. They do thousands and thousands of case studys, a lot which come back negative. And like PP have said, it's in the second tri not third.

I'm glad you feel comfortable relying on your internet research (I dont care if its google or some "not .com' website). The internet is the internet. I would have rather had the extra U/S and been able to know FOR SURE if it was a typo or if something was really wrong that they accidently looked over. Because, that happens, people make mistakes.

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