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NBR: Obama or Romney?
So.... I am clueless about how the US electoral system actually works, but that ASIDE... how will you be voting? I'll make it a poll, but I'd also be interested in any comments... just a curious Canadian! 
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Re: NBR: Obama or Romney?
I don't really see any meaningful difference between Obama and Romney. I'll be voting for the Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson.
Pretty much. I can't decide whether it is worse to have the man in office who believes in the magic health plan, or the man who believes in magical underpants.
hahaha.. magical underpants.
What's that smell?
ahh, bigotry.
Couldn't hack writing that under your actual screen name, so you made up this one just for me? Or, are you just that new so your opinion really doesn't matter at all?
I don't "hate" him, or find him "intolerable", I just don't think that magical underpants are real, and thus find it hard to vote for a man who does. That is all I'm sayin'.
You must be new to the internet? Did what I posted on the world wide web offend you? Do some research yourself. For starters you have no idea who I am, I may be a former Mormon... but you don't know do you?
Mormon undergarments: When Mormons go through the Endowment ceremony in the Mormon temples, they are given a set of "underwear" known as "garments". Mormons are lead to believe that the garments have "magical properties" and can save them from bullets, fire and accidents. Many faith-promoting rumors are spread throughout the church about the saving powers of the garments - even though not a single rumor can be proven. Mormons cannot make their own garments - they must be purchased from the Mormon Church.
Magical underpants.
Wut.
I'm not voting for someone who has no concept of women's issues and thinks that it isn't his job to worry about 47% of the country.
Also, I can't stand when people say they aren't going to vote because both major candidates suck.
1. There are more than two candidates.
2. If you don't vote, don't complain about how the country is run.
I never understood why people call it throwing their vote away. It is her vote to use as she see fits. If anything else it shows her unhappiness with both parties. The two party system is stupid. If enough people vote for a different one then maybe it will open up the politicans to the idea that there are people who aren't just "right wing" and "left wing".
Obama.
Because, honestly, I still find Romney to be an unlikeable person, and his stance on the topics which *I* hold most dear are unbearable.
--He *is* a "good family man" as many have pointed out, yet he doesn't feel that ALL Americans should have that chance - to be "good family men" - and stands firmly against gay marriage.
--He is a "good family man" - but doesn't believe that his wife, daughter, sister, aunt, niece should be in control of their own bodies - and stands against a woman's right to choose.
--He is a "good family man" who likely has parents, and yet he looks to alienate the senior population by cutting Social Security, MediCare, and doesn't even feel that caring about that portion of the population is important.
Because of those things, specifically, I will not be voting for him, and will absolutely continue my support for our President.
I look at the strides Barack has made, and the massive opposition he has had at every step. Of course he hasn't made as much progress as he would have liked. He has had to fight tooth and nail for every single step.
And to imply that he is not a "hard worker" is beyond ridiculous. He has worked tirelessly for this country, and for her citizens. Barack Obama is not perfect. Neither am I. Neither is any other person on the planet (except Mary Poppins, and even she is only *practically* perfect.)
But a hard worker??? Absolutely. Comparing him to other Presidents is silly. He has worked just as hard - or in my own view, harder (perhaps that is just that I am more aware of him, since he is the first President in a long time I have felt so strongly about.)
I am struggling to Find The Good in Mitt Romney.
I have come to realize, in this election year, that what really truly matters to me in a leader are the personal, human, social issues.
All Presidents have to deal with taxes and budgets and economic stuff. They all have to deal with foreign policy. (Oh, and btw, pretty much EVERYONE I have met from other countries thinks Barack is the best thing to happen to the USA in eons.) <---off the subject, sorry.
All Presidents have to do all that political stuff.
What matters to me is the way a President feels about His (or Her) People. Do you stand for the RIGHTS of all Americans? If not, I don't want you. Do you believe that gay Americans should and MUST have the same rights as straight? Yes? Then I will vote for you. Do you think that Government has ANY business in my vagina? Yes? Then you will NOT be my President. Do you think that women should be in control of their own bodies, period? Then you have my vote.
And on and on. Seniors? Let's make sure they get the SS and MediCare they spent their lives paying into. Veterans? Make damn sure they have all the rights and privileges they deserve.
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I agree that the 2 party system sucks. I feel like we have more bread choices than choices for President. But I still think it's important to vote - there are many countries where you cannot vote. So instead of throwing the vote away, people can go into the booth and either vote for other smaller (lesser known) parties or write someone in.
This thread is reminding me to go get my absentee ballot since voting day is somewhat close to my due date!
My husband is LDS. He doesn't think the garments are magical at all, and he doesn't believe that the garments will "save" him from harm. He believes that if God's will is that my husband will have harm come to him, it will.
Shannda: the poster who called the garments "magical" or thinks that Romney thinks that they are "magical" is just showing how ignorant they are. While I was a little offended by their comment, I'm just laughing my face off at them right now.
I would much rather "throw away" my vote on a man that I feel represents myself, and what I believe my country could and should be, rather than chuck it unwillingly at the two children that are most prominently displayed on Fox News and CNBC. It is this narrow minded view that our country should only be led by the Democratic or Republican party that has lead us into a tailspin of debt, economic collapse, and various war zones. Perhaps my vote, added with a few others, will be the one that topples that system and starts this country down a road to a better future for my children and grandchildren. When you think about what this country could be, and then look at what it is, how can you convince yourself that we only have two options when neither of them are appealing to you?
Well, I am happy I gave you a chuckle. That was my initial intent.
I am not wasting time with voting because I live in Illinois and we're sewn up for Obama no matter what.
But then I'm gonna complain all I want.
Same here.
Amen!
I don't know what it is about Romney, but he's skeeved me from the beginning. He just screams slimy business man to me for some reason.
My issue with Romney is that he just seems so clueless half the time. Sometimes it's little things, like saying stupid nonsense, and other times it's bigger stuff like saying he's not worried about almost half of the country's vote. I know it's typical politics to pluck soundbites from interviews to make the candidate look bad, but I just feel like he doesn't think enough before he speaks, and that could cause problems when it comes to maneuvering the very delicate politics of the world.
Every time I think he has something relevant or worthwhile to say, he does something stupid to screw it all up. He talks about being able to relate to the middle class and understand their needs, but then he talks about the multiple cars his wife owns that are GM. I get the point he was trying to make - GM is in business, good stuff, definitely a good thing for our country (I know there was more to that whole interview, but that was the point of that statement). But don't talk about being able to relate to a $70k/yr household that can maybe afford two cars, max, while in the same breath mentioning your wife's multiple Cadillacs. Not that there's anything wrong with that, they can have as many cars as they want. If he'd just left it at GM being in business is a good thing, I probably wouldn't even remember the interview. He just stuck his foot in his mouth, which he seems to do a lot, and that kind of stuff sticks with people.
The other thing that irked me was what I just saw on TV. He was standing at some airfield giving a speech, talking about how Obama sucks for this and that reason, and in the background is his private jet. Come on now. "Yes I understand your strife and needs. Let me fly around the country in my private jet to tell you just how much." To me that's right up there with the oil bigwigs showing up to Congress in their private jets to beg for money.
I realize that these are not major issues by any means. But it just seems as though they seem to stem from the bigger problem of him just not being able to understand the middle and lower classes at all. I'm not saying there's something wrong with him or that he shouldn't be president just because he's rich. I could care less about that. I just don't feel as though there's any way he can relate to me or my problems, and that's a big issue for me.
As a fellow Canadian, I really hope Obama gets re-elected. We have public healthcare up here and it works great! I know the US doesn't have that exactly, but I personally don't see the big deal with "Obamacare" and I think Romney is just not qualified for the job. I know most Canadians are hoping Obama gets re-elected, too.
I was at a Canucks game when the results came in last time and they announced it over the loud speakers and the crowd went nuts!
ETA: Yes I agree with Blowfish, too! We have gay marriage and abortion up here, and access to birth control, and it's fine. I still don't even get how these are even issues in the US anymore.
That would be dandy if we could afford it. Not enough people put into the pot to be able to support everyone. My healthcare goes up to support everyone else isn't really fair for us. Until there becomes a solution where more people can contribute it doesn't work.
Me, too!
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Again, if you don't vote, don't complain about the government. You are given a chance to try to change things and you don't take the opportunity to do so.
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Again, if you don't vote, don't complain about the government. You are given a chance to try to change things and you don't take the opportunity to do so.
As a former lobbyist, if I were going to set about trying to change things, I wouldn't do it by voting in my district that rarely has close races for anything.
I don't think its *just* the lack of people contributing. It is also because you have companies who are gouging the system. The .gov has a lot of fat trimming to do BEFORE they try to tell everyone they have to pay for everyone elses healthcare. I have no problem with it mind you. I think it would be great for everyone to benefit. However RIGHT NOW.. we don't have the money. They need to find all these medicare contracts that are out there and buy the equipment instead of renting at 300 times the cost. The .gov spends SO MUCH money on rental equipment.
THIS THIS THIS!!!!
1. 100% agree.
2. I don't like either candidate, so I'll be writing in my vote for Hilary Clinton. I know it won't do any good, but at least my vote will go toward someone I can stand behind.
I will be voting for Obama mainly for these reasons:
1) I don't believe the economy grows from the top down. I believe that those that make more need to pay their fair share of taxes. There is no reason why a family making $50K should be paying more proportionally than millionaires.
2) I don't agree with Romney's stance on abortion and women's rights in general.
3) I don't agree with Romney's stance on gay marriage/rights.
**To be honest, I don't even know why #2 &3 are even government issues. To me it seems like people that are against those two issues rely on religion for their views. That is fine and everyone is entitled to their own view but to force that on the entire country is wrong as every American isn't a Christian and doesn't have the same beliefs.
4) I feel like Romney is so out of touch with the average American and running for president seems like it's something for him to check off his to-do list, not something that he's really passionate about in order to restore our country.
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I can not agree with the Canadian system. As a healthcare provider in the US, I am always shocked by the number of Canadians we get crossing the border willing to pay out of pocket to get better and quicker healthcare in the US. I am definitely opposed to government run healthcare. Obamacare is so poorly planned it will fail.
Though I can not say either candidate is perfect, Romney is closer to my beliefs and hopes for the future of this country. I wish he had more personality. I don't share his religion, but do respect him for standing behind his beliefs. I do have to give Obama the personality card. But he has nothing to show for his last 4 years in office.
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This is what immediately popped into my head too.
FTR, I don't think you're throwing your vote away if you don't vote for Romney or Obama. I just laughed my @$$ off remembering that Simpson's episode.
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This sums up my feelings pretty well. It kills me when my H complains about politics and isn't even a registered voter
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IUIs 1-3 BFN, lap Dec. 2010, IUIs 4-6 BFN
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To quote Tina Fey...
I hope you still plan to vote, even if not for the Presidential election. Obama v. Romney isn't the only thing on the ballot. The other races are just as important, if not even moreso. Please go vote for your local and state issues.
I don't agree with either candidate but I refuse to vote for Obama because I feel that if he has time to party with Jay-Z and Beyonce and make appearances on Letterman and the View while all of the back lash from that video are going on around our embassies then he is not worthy of my vote and I don't feel like dealing with his constant vacations for another 4 years instead of him actually running our country. Irritates the F#ck out of me.
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I think you and I could be best friends.
I'm voting third party again this election. I'm not happy with either of the two major choices, as usual.
Ha! Don't worry, I understood it to be a funny and supportive picture. I guess no one else remembers that episode of the Simpsons.
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