Nursing cover

rainyblues · August 2012

For other moms that are smokers could you please recommend your nursing cover. I'm trying to find one that is lightweight and comfy for baby but also smoke and flame retardent. I was looking at the hooter hider but couldn't find any safety info for it.

rainyblues · August 2012

Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

shrtfrkgrl · August 2012

I don't think you are going to find a nursing cover that is smoke and flame retardent. I think when nursing covers are made they are made with the intention that the mother isn't going to smoke. Maybe try looking for some flame retardant material and try to make your own or just use that material. Or maybe when you are nursing just wait to smoke or smoke before hand.

JennaNAaron · August 2012

You are planning on actually smoking WHILE feeding? I haven't heard of anyone doing that. I'm not judging for smoking, but smoking around baby isn't a good idea.

shrtfrkgrl · August 2012

Here's a website for flame retardant material if you are looking for material and cannot find a nursing cover.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/281884092/cotton_flame_retardant_fabric_for_Safety.html

rainyblues · August 2012

shrtfrkgrl:
Here's a website for flame retardant material if you are looking for material and cannot find a nursing cover.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/281884092/cotton_flame_retardant_fabric_for_Safety.html

Thanks,is this also smoke proof?

rainyblues · August 2012

Yes, I smoke while nursing sometimes mostly during night feedings. I try to limit the number of times per day especially since I don't have a cover yet but with her constantly eating sometimes the two overlap. I was thinking if I use a cover it could block some of the smoke.

PurrBox · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

You've got to be kidding me. In that case, I guess everyone should take up smoking around their babies.

In all seriousness, I'll be the person who lectures: please seriously consider the negative impact smoking around your baby will have on their health. There are so many health problems that young children develop due to second-hand smoke.

Also, "smoking" is a verb, so how does smoking while breastfeeding build immunity to smoking. This just doesn't make sense to me.

Kaisa07 · August 2012

Honestly, I think you should put forth more effort on not smoking while nursing than finding a smoke-proof nursing cover .. smoke before, or after .. preferably outside where the baby isn't sucking in your smoke .. poor child .. smdh ..

couliegirl · August 2012

**facepalm**

rainyblues · August 2012

This is why I hardly post here! I asked a simple question and its being blewn out of portion. My baby is healthy and just fine, thank you. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity. I'm not on here to argue since you all must be doctors! I simply need a cover that will filter some of the smoke and provide somewhat of a barrier from ashes and what have you. If you can help with that I appreciate it anything else is unwanted opinions!

RaeDae29 · August 2012

rainyblues:
. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity.

Gosh, if there has been tons of research shown that exposure builds imunity then you would think that someone would have come up with a nursing flame retardant cover for mom's who want to smoke and BF at the same time. Hey! I have a new idea for an Etsy shop!! I can't believe this market hasn't been tapped! Thanks, guuurl!

amandarins · August 2012

rainyblues:
This is why I hardly post here! I asked a simple question and its being blewn out of portion. My baby is healthy and just fine, thank you. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity. I'm not on here to argue since you all must be doctors! I simply need a cover that will filter some of the smoke and provide somewhat of a barrier from ashes and what have you. If you can help with that I appreciate it anything else is unwanted opinions!

If you didn't want opinions, then you should have stuck to google then posting on a message board. You're poisoning your helpless child whether you want to believe it or not. I really hope this post is just MUD, because it just makes me so sad

AliciaS1411 · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

Well it sounds like you sure need one. You're a real winner. Mom of they year and all that.

mary35699 · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

What?!?!? Unlike your beliefs here some backed up by medical proof and a little something called fact. I've also attached the links unlike you.

Infants and children exposed to second-hand smoke are more likely to suffer chronic respiratory illness, impaired lung function, middle ear infections, food allergies and can even succumb to sudden infant death syndrome.

https://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/tobac-tabac/second/fact-fait/index-eng.php

How does second-hand smoke harm children?s health?

Kids who are exposed to second-hand smoke are at higher risk for many serious health problems. Compared to other kids, children who regularly breathe second-hand smoke have:

More risk of dying from sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)1
More cough and wheeze ²
More cases of asthma, and among kids with asthma, worse asthma symptoms^3, 3
More ear infections ⁴
Less lung capacity ⁵
More respiratory tract infections (bronchitis, croup, pneumonia, etc.) ⁶
Lower test scores in math, reading and logic ⁷
More chance of taking up smoking themselves

There is also growing evidence that kids exposed to second-hand smoke are more at risk of developing cancer later in life. ¹⁰ And new research suggests that kids who are exposed to second-hand smoke may have more behaviour problems than other kids.⁸

https://www.lung.ca/protect-protegez/tobacco-tabagisme/second-secondaire/children-enfants_e.php

The Risks of Secondhand Smoke to a Child

Low birthweight for gestational age
Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS)- children whose mothers smoked during pregnancy have an increased risk of SIDS.
The EPA estimates that passive smoking is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 of these infections in children under 18 months annually
Asthma - According to the EPA, between 200,000 and 1,000,000 kids with asthma have their condition worsened by secondhand smoke every year. Also, passive smoking may also be responsible for thousands of new cases of asthma every year
Chronic respiratory symptoms such as cough and wheezing may be attributed to secondhand smoke.
Children who breathe in secondhand smoke are more likely to suffer from dental cavities, eye and nose irritation, and irritability
Middle ear infections - exposure to ETS causes buildup of fluid in the middle ear, resulting in 700,000 to 1.6 million physician office visits yearly

https://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/secondhandsmoke/a/secondhandsmoke.htm

Re: If I smoke cigarettes, how will it affect my breastfed baby?

Babies -- breastfed or formula-fed -- with parents who smoke are more likely to experience pneumonia, asthma, bronchitis, ear infections, sinus infections, eye irritation, and croup than babies who aren't exposed to smoke. (Babies can be exposed through breast milk, being in the room with someone who is smoking, or even by inhaling the irritants left hanging around on clothes and furniture.) Babies with smoking parents are also more likely to die of SIDS, more likely to be colicky, have lower levels of HDL (good cholesterol), get sick more often, and are more likely to smoke when they get older.

Is your baby safer if you stop breastfeeding because you're smoking? Most experts say no. If you choose to switch to formula, baby is still affected by your smoking?plus he doesn't receive all the health benefits of breast milk. So, in essence, smoking and breastfeeding is better for baby's health than smoking and formula feeding.

Protect baby by getting help to kick your addiction, or at least try to cut back. The fewer cigarettes you smoke, the lower the risks for you and baby. And if you do continue to smoke, don't smoke around your baby. (And don't let others smoke around baby either.) To lessen the amount of nicotine that baby gets through your milk, don't smoke during feedings, and wait as long as possible between smoking and breastfeeding.

You'll need to learn as much as you can about building and maintaining your milk supply, since smoking can lead to lower milk production, problems with letdown, lower levels of prolactin (the hormone that helps fill your breasts with milk), and early weaning.

https://www.breastfeeding.com/breastfeeding-questions/breastfeeding-activity-restrictions/qa/if-i-smoke-cigarettes-how-will-it-affect-baby.aspx

If you choose to smoke, then you are accepting the risks associated with cigarettes and thats fine your an adult no one cares what you do to your own body. But to expose your child to toxins and chemicals is disgusting and negligent.

samsterrr · August 2012

My mother smoked while she was pregnant with me and while she breast feed me(not while I was latched thank goodness!!) I had bad lung issues until I was three. Having breathing treatments twice a day at home. Always getting sick. 20 years later I can barely hold my breath 20 seconds, because my lungs are so terrible. I also can not run without an inhaler. Many summers I was at the hospital because I wouldnt be able to breathe playing with my friends. Please at least wait until your baby finishes? What is 20 minutes? As a mother your child's need should come first and your cravings second. Smoking is a hard habbit to quit but it can be managed so your child is not in danger.

Lotsofloveandkids · August 2012

What? You smoke WHILE feeding? :-|

drbethc · August 2012

Yeah, I am judging you...Who does that? This really should be a case of child maltreatment since infants and children cannot advocate for themselves. You suck! DISGUSTING!

Carla6394 · August 2012

Um.... I am sorry.,..... Did you mean that you are actually smoking WHILE breast feeding? And what do you mean when you say that by exposing baby to smoking it builds up their "immunity to smoke"?

egarriso · August 2012

rainyblues:
This is why I hardly post here! I asked a simple question and its being blewn out of portion. My baby is healthy and just fine, thank you. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity. I'm not on here to argue since you all must be doctors! I simply need a cover that will filter some of the smoke and provide somewhat of a barrier from ashes and what have you. If you can help with that I appreciate it anything else is unwanted opinions!

What?!?!

Immunity?!?!

You've got to be kidding me! There is NO such thing as "immunity to smoking"! Your child is MORE likely to smoke from seeing it as a social norm while growing up in your home.

That being said, there is some smoke proof material I know of...it's paint, drywall, wood, and then siding! Smoke outside AWAY from your baby!!!!

ThePinkSuperhero · August 2012

How can you smoke and breastfeed, do you have 3 arms or something?

nmoe · August 2012

Where in the world are you getting your information from? There is absolutely no truth whatsoever to "building immunity against smoking."

I'm not going to judge you for smoking. I'm a former smoker, so I know it's difficult. But smoking in your house is completely irresponsible (and disgusting), and smoking while you are actually breastfeeding is borderline abuse in my opinion. Your child is breathing that in, completed unfiltered. Even if there were such a thing as a "smoke/flame retardent" nursing cover (which there isn't by the way, because just the very idea is absurd), a blanket would in no way protect the child from second hand smoke.

Seriously, spend, I don't know, 2 minutes googling the health effects that babies suffer from exposure to second hand smoke.

cwm11985 · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

holy fluck balls I've never heard anything so stupid before in my life. Are you on 16 and pregnant?

daisy91606 · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

Please cite your proof that your selfish need to smoke around your sweet little baby is helping in any way. My DH and I grew up in smoking households and he has terrible asthma and I had chronic ear infections.

Also, IF it does build immunity to SMOKE not SMOKING, why would you be looking for a smoke proof cover? Wouldn't you want to blow that smoke right on your kid? Idiot!

acbfreire · August 2012

rainyblues:
This is why I hardly post here! I asked a simple question and its being blewn out of portion. My baby is healthy and just fine, thank you. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity. I'm not on here to argue since you all must be doctors! I simply need a cover that will filter some of the smoke and provide somewhat of a barrier from ashes and what have you. If you can help with that I appreciate it anything else is unwanted opinions!

this is so crazy and I cannot imagine any scientific journal publishing something condoning smoking around babies. Even 3rd hand smoking is harmful. Get over yourself and be a parent. Your child should come before your addiction.

navyandviolet · August 2012

rainyblues:
This is why I hardly post here! I asked a simple question and its being blewn out of portion. My baby is healthy and just fine, thank you. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity. I'm not on here to argue since you all must be doctors! I simply need a cover that will filter some of the smoke and provide somewhat of a barrier from ashes and what have you. If you can help with that I appreciate it anything else is unwanted opinions!

My husband's dad smoked around DH when he was an infant/child and he has a great immunity to breathing. Yup he has life threatening asthma. It is super fun for him and he thanks his dad every day. Especially when he is at the hospital, especially all the times he almost died as a kid, and couldn't play sports, and went to asthma camp with his own nurse instead of typical childhood summer camps. He was super healthy when he was born too. Just like your LO, but that all changes, you know nature can only do so much, now the nuture part gets to take over and you are failing that.

Now he did develop a huge immunity to smoking becuase he thinks that is disgusting and couldn't even touch the stuff if he tried becuase it would kill him. So if you are going for your LO thinking you and your habit is digusting then you might succeed. So good for you? I guess.

Smoke elsewhere. You new precious child with beautiful perfect lungs, skin, and eyesight would appriciate it.

PenelopePond · August 2012

I judge people who smoke anyways, but smoking while nursing?! Completely disgusting.

catmagick · August 2012

RaeDae29:
rainyblues:
. There has been lots of research showing that exposure builds immunity.
Gosh, if there has been tons of research shown that exposure builds imunity then you would think that someone would have come up with a nursing flame retardant cover for mom's who want to smoke and BF at the same time. Hey! I have a new idea for an Etsy shop!! I can't believe this market hasn't been tapped! Thanks, guuurl!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

ShelbehhRawrr · August 2012

I just want to say, I was a smoker and when I found out I was pregnant that day, that morning smoke was the last one I have had and even now, I don't smoke because I don't want my baby to smell like smoke and remember 'mommys smell' as being disgusting.

That being said, When she sleeps, smoke.. Don't nurse and smoke, I was told that is the worst thing to do while breastfeeding, but if I was to do so, NOT to do it during the actual feeding/pumping.

sammylee007 · August 2012

I don't condone smoking around babies but heres some food for thought....

My mom smoked while pregnant with me and she breastfed me so I can only assume that she probably smoked while breast feeding every now and again.

I am alive....I was a gifted student and had no breathing or lung issues.

I know there are studies that prove how harmful smoking is....and I bet op knows that too. She is free to make her own decisions and being rude to her probably isn't the best way to get your point across. Find another way to validate the fact that you can read and make yourselves feel better about it because your wasting your time. She's stated several times that she is going to smoke.

It's amazing to me how many moms in the 2nd and 3rd trimester were able to defend drinking wine during pregnancy.

This is also proven to harm babies. And its a spectrum disorder so even though you may not think you harmed your baby....you may have.

Nobodys perfect. Maybe you should all go and join the perfect mom board!

Life and parenthood is a time for growth and learning, I will never be a perfect mom but I will do my best to protect and care for my baby.

ShelbehhRawrr · August 2012

sammylee007:
I don't condone smoking around babies but heres some food for thought.... My mom smoked while pregnant with me and she breastfed me so I can only assume that she probably smoked while breast feeding every now and again. I am alive....I was a gifted student and had no breathing or lung issues. I know there are studies that prove how harmful smoking is....and I bet op knows that too. She is free to make her own decisions and being rude to her probably isn't the best way to get your point across. Find another way to validate the fact that you can read and make yourselves feel better about it because your wasting your time. She's stated several times that she is going to smoke. It's amazing to me how many moms in the 2nd and 3rd trimester were able to defend drinking wine during pregnancy. This is also proven to harm babies. And its a spectrum disorder so even though you may not think you harmed your baby....you may have. Nobodys perfect. Maybe you should all go and join the perfect mom board! Life and parenthood is a time for growth and learning, I will never be a perfect mom but I will do my best to protect and care for my baby.

So you caring for your baby, means you smoke around your child?

cherilynann · August 2012

Ugh I thought this was mud. Poor baby

kcave21 · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

your a dumbass

kcave21 · August 2012

drbethc:
Yeah, I am judging you...Who does that? This really should be a case of child maltreatment since infants and children cannot advocate for themselves. You suck! DISGUSTING!

THIS!! I am just beside myself and cant even get my head around how you think this is at any point okay....so your telling me you can hold off on smoking for 20 min to feed your baby?? That is pretty sad!! Maybe you should be talking to your doctor...I am in shock that you would even consider this...should you be a mom?

milesc · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

What the heck is an 'immunity to smoking'?

And if smoking while breastfeeding provides this 'immunity'... Heck, why try to filter it out any? Don't use a cover- let that baby get all the smoke he can get!

schmucac · August 2012

I honestly think this is THE most pathetic thing I've ever seen on TB.

tortuga47 · August 2012

I was going to stay out of it because I thought it was MUD, but there is no such thing as "immunity to smoking." Smoking isn't a disease, however it does CAUSE disease. People have their vices, and I don't think anyone here told you NOT to smoke, just don't smoke around your child and especially during nursing. Any exposure to second hand smoke is detrimental...even cigarettes put that on their packaging in a bold warning. Posting something like I smoke while nursing my child, what is a good flame retardant cover? - you KNEW you'd be lectured. Maybe there's a reason they don't make them flame retardant. THEY SHOULDN'T BE AROUND SMOKE!

ckkgb2001 · August 2012

heatherbee710:
rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

I'm pretty sure you can't be immune to smoking but if it's been "proven", I'd love to read where you found that information.
And if you want to avoid your child being exposed to second hand smoke, don't smoke with her on your boob. Sorry to "lecture" but since your child can't tell you that this is not healthy for her, I will.

Yes Yes

kkfeb04 · August 2012

rainyblues:
Ummm thanks I really am not looking for a lecture but just recommendations on the cover. I think I know what i'm doing here also its been proven that smoking while breastfeeding builds immunity to smoking. I'm trying to avoid second hand smoke and that's why I asked about a smoke proof cover to begin with.

Are you serious? You can't be this ignorant, no one can be this ignorant.

My mother smoked my entire childhood (she claims not while pregnant but yeah whatever). I'm ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING INCLUDING TOBACCO SMOKE. I carry an epi pen because people are ignorant and smoke right at the doorways of businesses. If I don't have my epi and an inhaled steroid, my chest gets tight and I struggle for breath. I get allergy shots and still have allergy meds with me in addition to the epi.

Don't smoke while you nurse. You can wait for your smokes.

I hope your child isn't on the news because mom had to have her cig and the child was burned or worse died because embers fell on her clothing.

BJ Barbie is that you?

mrs+harlow · August 2012

Ok this really takes the cake.

OP- if smoking and someone being around second hand smoke " built immunity" then no one should be getting lung cancer or asthma. Holy crap.

And also...you shouldn't be smoking in bed. That is a huge fire hazard. Many house fires are started this way...and people die.

There is no such thing as a smoke proof fire retardant breast feeding cover. BECAUSE YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO SMOKE AROUND CHILDREN.

You really need to get a grip and pursue a nicotine patch during the night if you are that dependent on nicotine.

I honestly can't even believe this is happening.

morethancottoncandy · August 2012

Check out her follow up post "For The Record" towards the top. This kind of stupidity is just shocking. Not to mention the poster defending her, SammiLee. What a pair of cuntburgers.