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FezzesAreCool
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What I don't understand.
FezzesAreCool
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How women can be Republicans.
No, seriously.
Fiscal conservative I understand.
But to side with a political party that is actively trying to restrict the right of a woman to have control over her own body is beyond me.
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Re: What I don't understand.
Get out of my head!
I completely agree with you. It baffles me.
I also can't understand why people (Christians) think it's okay to deny basic rights to homosexuals. Judge not lest ye be judged, right?
Charlotte Ella 07.16.10
Emmeline Grace 03.27.13
I understand the "SAVE THE BEHBEHS!" viewpoint.
However, the Rs aren't really following through because they also want to get rid of social programs, which may be the only thing that will keep those children out of abject poverty after birth.
But that's a different debate altogether.
ETA: Or, in short:
We will save you from being aborted by your mom, but f'uck you if your family needs help after you're born.
I'm hesitant to speak for republicans because I personally don't understand it either. But my sisters are republicans, and they always speak of gender issues with a tone of self-sacrifice: i.e., I don't want special privileges like free birth control or a real maternity leave, I want to be treated fairly
They say they want to be treated equally, I want to be treated equitably. And that is the difference between my conservative sisters and myself.
ETA: grammar
Space exploration > War in Afghanistan.
With regard to the bolded, do your sisters support gay marriage?
I truly think this issue would be easier to discuss if we took religion out of the equation.
I'm fiscally conservative, but I'm pretty socially liberal. I'm fine with gay marriage and I believe in a woman's right to choose. From a faith standpoint, I don't agree with abortion, but I don't think that because MY faith dictates how I feel about abortion, that I need to impose that on everyone else.
Its a hard place to be when it comes to choosing a candidate, especially at a time when the economy sucks. Frankly, I think the Republican party would find itself in a much better position if it stopped pandering to the stupid Tea Party and started listening to the millions of moderates in this country that feel similarly to how I feel.
Just my opinion.
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
Yes... but one is gay. Honestly, I don't know if they would support it were it not for that. They're not religious, so maybe.
Staying out of other countries' affairs in general > space exploration
... Actually the upcoming season on American Horror Story > space exploration
Religion is a big part of beliefs & people's sense of self. I can see why it would be hard to impossible to step away from that. I just wish that more people at least tried to understand the other side's point of view, not to concede their point but to try to truly understand what their thoughts/motivations are. I guess I'm an idealistic fool though.
I'm watching BBC's "The Planets" right now and I'm sad the general US population doesn't have as much excitement about space exploration as we did back in the 60s and early 70s.
But I don't get that. Conservatives can be swayed to think that tax breaks are an "investment" that will lead to "jobs" but they can't see that science, social programs, and education are investments that lead to a more prosperous society? Why are the tax breaks so convincing when there's no evidence that they lead to jobs aside from a thought experiment?
This is one of my big pet peeves about politicians (and people in general) who try to use their faith and religion to justify being bigots. I'm pretty sure Jesus wants us to love everyone.
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
The rivalry with USSR is over, now we have nothing to prove to anyone but China...and they seem content overpopulating earth.
I agree. I'm not offended by the anti choice movement itself (although I disagree). But the same people who want to take away choice also want to restrict or eliminate access to contraception, increasing the need for choice. And restrict education for people on how to avoid needing that choice. And cut funds to help people once they have this baby they did not want.
So basically any woman who has sex (even non-consentual) is a slut who should be shamed and see her entire life derailed.
all of this
"We like nothing better than buffing our Zygoma. And imagining a horny time traveling long overcoat purple scarf wearing super sleuth nordic legend fuck fantasy. Get to work on that, internet." Benedict Cumberbatch
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I actually agreed with the Tea Party when it was brand new before Palin got her hands on it and whatnot.
Oh.
I think the GOP is a little fuckked on the fiscal end this time around too, so they wont get my vote either way. I have family that is fiscally conservative, and rich to boot, and they are also voting Obama, just because they believe that Romney is going to turn the GOP into a bigger shitfest than Palin and Bachmann combined already did.
"We like nothing better than buffing our Zygoma. And imagining a horny time traveling long overcoat purple scarf wearing super sleuth nordic legend fuck fantasy. Get to work on that, internet." Benedict Cumberbatch
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I especially don't understand calls to cut the capital gains tax. That's a tax on taking profits from an investment and NOT REINVESTING THEM. In other words, NOT using all your money to create jobs. And it's not "hard-earned money." It's money you got just by investing and sitting back and watching it grow.
Sounding like a socialist again, I guess.
Economists don't know what to do about the economy.
Anyone who thinks that American politicians know are idiots.
On the plus side, at least we're not Russia and locking up musicians for two years for talking smack about non-presidents in their songs.
FTR, she is pro-life/anti-choice, and I'm sure religion has a lot to do with that.
This is my BFF, except BFF is married. BFF votes Republican but is a social liberal. I have not yet asked her how she's able to stomach voting for republicans who want to take away her rights.
Next weekend is her son's birthday party and I'm 98% sure that there will be much political talk about how awesome the Romney-Ryan ticket is. I will be shoving cake in my mouth so that I don't start yelling.
Yelling would be inappropriate.
Yup. Europe is a cluster right now. No amount of not taxing the rich is going to help the world economy.
Charlotte Ella 07.16.10
Emmeline Grace 03.27.13
Along these lines, anyone familiar with freakanomics and their arguments re: abortion? Basically, the found a relationship between some other country (forgot which one) making abortion ILLEGAL and, 18-20 years later, a huge rise in crime (presumeably, because lots of unwanted babies born into crappy homes grew up to be criminals), and found the reverse data in the U.S. with Roe v. Wade and, 20 years later, a DROP in the crime rate. I'm not an expert in this type of thing, but it is certainly interesting and kind of makes sense.
Yeah I agree with this. I haven't heard anything from republicans that lead me to believe that they can do any better with our financial situation.
Murdah x2 beotchez. I shouldn't be pro death penalty then huh
Ok, I usually don't post about this topic. However, I read the list and wonder which one you think I am. I am already a mother. I am average income and probably should be more politically educated. I am from MS. So I guess the bottom 3.
Well, maybe someone readng really does want to know how a woman could be Rep. And maybe someone will read and realize we are not all crazy or bad or heartless.
You are assuming that a person believes in everything a party is doing. I am sure that something the Dem are doing you do not agree with.
I am pro-choice. You will not see me with a sign in front of any buildings or on the news, but I do believe that it is life. I have no issues with gays. I have a gay BF and he was in my wedding. I have no issue with gays having a legal union. I think social programs that work are great, but too many do not help in the long run. So I believe in funding programs, but I think there should be change in many of these programs. I also think there should insurance reform, but not govt run insurance. Something in the new healthcare bill I like and think are great and other items not so much. I totally admit that I should be more politically educated, but there are only so many hours in the day. And most of the time what they say and what they do or can get done are two different things.
This is my response to 'why explore space'. Read especially the mouseover text.
https://xkcd.com/893/
It's quite simple. On the political board, our normal Reps simply don't believe Romney and Ryan are social conservatives. They maintain they are just lying and politicking to get votes, and lying is more respectable, clearly.
When asked why they won't vote Gary Johnson (non batshitcrazy LIbertarian candidate), the answer was he's not electable.
So it's a combination of denial of what's in front of them (like Paul Ryan's voting record) and no real desire to change the party from within.
I am an independent who has always voted Dem in the past. I am seriously considering voting for Romney. I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-social programs, pro-healthcare, BUT I think that the economy is the most important issue this election year and that will probably be my main influencing campaign issue when I make my final decision. I am torn.
Example: I love the idea of nationalized healthcare. But, we can't even afford the social programs we have now, so lets figure out a way to pay for it before we commit to it, pass it later once we have our deficit under control. Or cut other spending elsewhere to fund it. But don't pass it by borrowing from other programs that are going bankrupt as well. The fact that the government doesn't have to have a balanced budget horrifies me. And I had high hopes for Obama, but I don't think he is getting the job done in those areas.