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  • imageWolfette139:

    imageL&R70707:
    Good god, I feel dumber after reading through LauraM nonsense.

    Her level of dumb is disturbing 

    Wow, you are really sweet...and so mature...thanks!

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  • imageCLECyclist:

    It's totally adorable how you say you're done with us, but there's a little speech bubble by your name that shows when you're online!!

    Is this one of those "No, you hang up! No, you! Noooo, you!" situations? I'm flattered but I'm married already.

     

    Haha, LOL, that was cute...I give you that:)

     I felt I had to respond since they asked for an article proving it could happen.  couldn't leave my fans waiting.

  • imageUnpossible:
    imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    But did you attend an elite university?

     

     

    Actually, yes!

  • imagelauramk31:
    imagesueann911:
    imageCLECyclist:

    imagesueann911:
    Ok. Smarty pants. Since you said you have medical books to back it up...prove it.

    The delay we are experiencing is because there are a LOT of Yahoo Answers posts to go through to find the answer.

    Exactly. I should clarify that the proof can't come from webmd or wikipedia. It must be sourced and linkable for us to read. After that I will personally drive a thousand miles to kiss your a$$.

     

    Whatever, I'm done wasting my time with you guys....you think I'm so dumb, fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    here's an article for you to read, and the reason for my delay is NOT because I had trouble finding it, but b/c I actually have other things to be bothered doing than this board.

     

    https://www.americanpregnancy.org/gettingpregnant/ovulationfaq.htm

     

    can you get pregnant/ovulate during your period?, YES, but is it common/likely to happen?, probably not.  And if any of you knew anything about law, you'd realize that if there is a shadow of a doubt in anyone's mind, then you have to pronounce the person 'not guilty'.  THEREFORE, I did not say it happens every stinkin' time.  I just said IT COULD happen.  So, get off my back about it, already, and stop being so cranky...just keep charting your ovulation as I'm sure it is what works best for you.  Go for it!  And good luck!  Stop saying how 'dumb' I sound simply b/c I argued the fact that women CAN become pregnant at any point during the month.  That's all!  Who knew it would start this big battle of everyone saying how dumb I must be...Wow, I have seen some real arrogance and nastiness here that would honestly make me think that if I am dumb, I'm one lucky gal!

    Ahh yes, the good old shadow of a doubt standard of proof, I believe that's how OJ got off.

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    Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.

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  • I may not have gone to a prestigious university, but I highly doubt you are smarter than me or anyone else on this board. (With 2 exceptions I shall not name because everyone already knows) Before you start getting all high and mighty about your IQ, why don't you research what we are saying. Those books that can say anything they want to say are written by verifiable doctors. Where is your MD? Can you add a link to that?

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  • imagelauramk31:
    imageSlapptastic:
    imagelauramk31:
    imageGhostMonkey:

    You realize she was likely pregnant from the prior cycle and what she thought was her period was just bleeding or spotting, right?

    No? Now you do.

    Don't defend stupid. It makes you look even more stupid than they do.

     

    Actually, you just looked quite stupid, but than kyou!

    No, a woman can ovulate during her menstrual cycle.  What is the matter with these ppl on this board? They all flunked the easiest class in high school, sex education?  Seriously?!  A woman can become pregnant during her regular PERIOD!  It is not often, or common, but it can happen, so people shouldn't insist it is impossible!

     And don't act so nasty like that...it's not very becoming.

    I kinda think you look pretty stupid now, but that's OK!  I know I'm right! 

    No.  Actually GhostMonkey wasn't the one that looked stupid there.

    I highly recommend that you read "Taking Charge of Your Fertility".

    Whatever...ALL I'm saying is a woman CAN BECOME pregnant at any point during the month....charting, ovulation tests, basal body temperature tests, etc., are not all 100% perfect...sometimes, it can happen when it happens at any time.  That is all...those fertility books, or whatever you call them, can say anything they want b/c they are trying to help you have the HIGHEST likelihood of conceiving.  However, it doesn't mean that you cannot conceive other times than that 48 window during the month.  Geez, NO one can even admit that there is the chance of it happening...all they do is say how stupid I look for thinking this way (even when medical books prove I'm right), and that I should read some fertility books?  Wow...

    I'm going to skip over all the other bs and focus on this gem.  An egg lives for approximately 24-48 hours.  You think you can get pregnant outside of that time?  Meaning, when no egg is present?  I'm even giving you a pass on the whole "getting pregnant while having a period" thing because I really want to know how you think you can get pregnant when you're NOT ovulating.

    Formerly known as elmoali :)

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  • POAS & STFU.

  • I'm having a quote fail on my kindle but GM and elmoali covered it all. Congrats on not being smarter than all of us.



    Me: 32 DH: 31.
    B/W: good. SA: good.
    November 2012: Paratubal cyst found during U/S.
    January 10, 2013: Lap removed paratubal cyst and Stage 2 Endometriosis. 
    3 cycles of Femara + TI = BFNs

    June 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 37.5 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFN

    July 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 75 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFP!!!!

    Beta 1 @ 11 DPIUI = 76. Progesterone = 27.3

    BFP 8/16/2013 // EDD 4/28/2014

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  • imagejess60:
    POAS & STFU.

    You took the words right out of my mouth 

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  • imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    You may be smarter than us, have a degree in both anatomy/physiology and law from an elite university, but then why must you use use random capitalization to add emphasis to what you're saying (in addition to your other glaring grammar and spelling mistakes that I am not even going to touch). If you want to add emphasis to your words, try saying something intelligent!
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  • imagebettywhitettgp:
    imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    You may be smarter than us, have a degree in both anatomy/physiology and law from an elite university, but then why must you use use random capitalization to add emphasis to what you're saying (in addition to your other glaring grammar and spelling mistakes that I am not even going to touch). If you want to add emphasis to your words, try saying something intelligent!

    Actually, my grammar is phenomenal in my legal briefs..b/c you guessed it, I am an attorney...good for you!  You get a gold star!   The issue is that when I get flustered b/c I'm being attacked, and criticized incorrectly I type on my computer very  quickly..so learn the difference between spelling mistakes and typos!  I've seen some from you all, too!!  Oh my, the horror!  And what I have been saying is intelligent. I guess you should find someone who got pregnant when she didn't chart her ovulation, and her guy pulled out in time?!  B/c then maybe you'll believe that a person can get pregnant other than those 2 charted ovulation days!  Ciao...it's been real (and obviously, this board has some really stressed and bitter people on it, so I think I'll move on....)  You all need to relax and take a vacation.  Trying to get pregnant makes you really quite nasty and critical...

  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imagelauramk31:
    imagebettywhitettgp:
    imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    You may be smarter than us, have a degree in both anatomy/physiology and law from an elite university, but then why must you use use random capitalization to add emphasis to what you're saying (in addition to your other glaring grammar and spelling mistakes that I am not even going to touch). If you want to add emphasis to your words, try saying something intelligent!

    Actually, my grammar is phenomenal in my legal briefs..b/c you guessed it, I am an attorney...good for you!  You get a gold star!   The issue is that when I get flustered b/c I'm being attacked, and criticized incorrectly I type on my computer very  quickly..so learn the difference between spelling mistakes and typos!  I've seen some from you all, too!!  Oh my, the horror!  And what I have been saying is intelligent. I guess you should find someone who got pregnant when she didn't chart her ovulation, and her guy pulled out in time?!  B/c then maybe you'll believe that a person can get pregnant other than those 2 charted ovulation days!  Ciao...it's been real (and obviously, this board has some really stressed and bitter people on it, so I think I'll move on....)  You all need to relax and take a vacation.  Trying to get pregnant makes you really quite nasty and critical...

    Do you also claim you are attacked when someone presents you with an opposing argument? 

    Bye troll. Try not to hit all the cliches next time and we might buy your babbling.

     

     

    Again, another polite reader of this blog....

    Here is a medical article I thought you'd all appreciate reading...again, to reiterate, I am not saying a woman can get pregnant with no egg present (as someone tried to imply I was stating), but that it can happen at any point during the month.  And yet, it is me against the world.  Not one of you can admit it is possible....wow, you really are dead set on those ovulation charts, and refuse to sway from anything else, huh?

     "A woman can become pregnant from having sexual intercourse during menstruation. In fact, recent research conducted by the United States National Institutes of Health (NIH) suggests that women have the potential to become pregnant at virtually any time during their cycle. While the chance of pregnancy is greater on certain days of a woman's cycle, it is never completely absent. "

     

    Thank you, and you all have a nice day....Good luck!

  • The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up.  What's the matter?  Worried that what I've been saying all this time could be true?  Get over yourself, and look it up on your own if you don't belive me.

    Check out kidshealth.org, and a ton of other medical experts/sites that say the same thing.  Unprotected sex at any point during the month can lead to pregnancy.  That was my argument from the beginning, and no matter how many people refuse to accept it, it is true! 

  • imagemrsrichard33:

    imagejenaw84:
    Just when I thought the boards were dead tonight.  If you had your period 11 days ago there is no way you're pregnant.  I'm not aware of your "mad heart burn" or why you think that you could physically be pregnant at this point in your cycle, but I suggest reading the newbie link to become a little more familiar with how things work.  You say it's been six years since you've used protection, how long have y'all actually been TTC?

     Is there a reason your so rude??

     

    We have been not using protection for 6 years which in turn translates to "trying to concieve" for 6 years as well. Now that we are married and feel there may be something medical experts can help us with we will begin doing that now..

     

    I was sure when I wrote my original post that I said I know this sounds crazy and way early... BUT stranger things have happened

    It aint strange...its science 

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  • imagelauramk31:
    imagebettywhitettgp:
    imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    You may be smarter than us, have a degree in both anatomy/physiology and law from an elite university, but then why must you use use random capitalization to add emphasis to what you're saying (in addition to your other glaring grammar and spelling mistakes that I am not even going to touch). If you want to add emphasis to your words, try saying something intelligent!

    Actually, my grammar is phenomenal in my legal briefs..b/c you guessed it, I am an attorney...good for you!  You get a gold star!   The issue is that when I get flustered b/c I'm being attacked, and criticized incorrectly I type on my computer very  quickly..so learn the difference between spelling mistakes and typos!  I've seen some from you all, too!!  Oh my, the horror!  And what I have been saying is intelligent. I guess you should find someone who got pregnant when she didn't chart her ovulation, and her guy pulled out in time?!  B/c then maybe you'll believe that a person can get pregnant other than those 2 charted ovulation days!  Ciao...it's been real (and obviously, this board has some really stressed and bitter people on it, so I think I'll move on....)  You all need to relax and take a vacation.  Trying to get pregnant makes you really quite nasty and critical...

    I would hate to be represented by an attorney who cant stand up to verbal attacks and criticism 

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  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageelmoali:
    imagelauramk31:
    imageSlapptastic:
    imagelauramk31:
    imageGhostMonkey:

    You realize she was likely pregnant from the prior cycle and what she thought was her period was just bleeding or spotting, right?

    No? Now you do.

    Don't defend stupid. It makes you look even more stupid than they do.

     

    Actually, you just looked quite stupid, but than kyou!

    No, a woman can ovulate during her menstrual cycle.  What is the matter with these ppl on this board? They all flunked the easiest class in high school, sex education?  Seriously?!  A woman can become pregnant during her regular PERIOD!  It is not often, or common, but it can happen, so people shouldn't insist it is impossible!

     And don't act so nasty like that...it's not very becoming.

    I kinda think you look pretty stupid now, but that's OK!  I know I'm right! 

    No.  Actually GhostMonkey wasn't the one that looked stupid there.

    I highly recommend that you read "Taking Charge of Your Fertility".

    Whatever...ALL I'm saying is a woman CAN BECOME pregnant at any point during the month....charting, ovulation tests, basal body temperature tests, etc., are not all 100% perfect...sometimes, it can happen when it happens at any time.  That is all...those fertility books, or whatever you call them, can say anything they want b/c they are trying to help you have the HIGHEST likelihood of conceiving.  However, it doesn't mean that you cannot conceive other times than that 48 window during the month.  Geez, NO one can even admit that there is the chance of it happening...all they do is say how stupid I look for thinking this way (even when medical books prove I'm right), and that I should read some fertility books?  Wow...

    I'm going to skip over all the other bs and focus on this gem.  An egg lives for approximately 24-48 hours.  You think you can get pregnant outside of that time?  Meaning, when no egg is present?  I'm even giving you a pass on the whole "getting pregnant while having a period" thing because I really want to know how you think you can get pregnant when you're NOT ovulating.

    Actually eggs live at most for 24 hours. 12 is more common.

     

    Duh, right. I was so wrapped up in this twat that I mixed up the OPK prediction window and the life of the egg.  But that helps my argument even more :) 

    Formerly known as elmoali :)

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  • imagelauramk31:
    imagebettywhitettgp:
    imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    You may be smarter than us, have a degree in both anatomy/physiology and law from an elite university, but then why must you use use random capitalization to add emphasis to what you're saying (in addition to your other glaring grammar and spelling mistakes that I am not even going to touch). If you want to add emphasis to your words, try saying something intelligent!

    Actually, my grammar is phenomenal in my legal briefs..b/c you guessed it, I am an attorney...good for you!  You get a gold star!   The issue is that when I get flustered b/c I'm being attacked, and criticized incorrectly I type on my computer very  quickly..so learn the difference between spelling mistakes and typos!  I've seen some from you all, too!!  Oh my, the horror!  And what I have been saying is intelligent. I guess you should find someone who got pregnant when she didn't chart her ovulation, and her guy pulled out in time?!  B/c then maybe you'll believe that a person can get pregnant other than those 2 charted ovulation days!  Ciao...it's been real (and obviously, this board has some really stressed and bitter people on it, so I think I'll move on....)  You all need to relax and take a vacation.  Trying to get pregnant makes you really quite nasty and critical...

    This is why attorneys have paralegals, isn't it?  This and the counting. . .   

  • imagebbg676:
    imagelauramk31:

    The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up. 

    Doesn't matter that the study is referenced (and not quoted) within your quote.  Your source is the webpage or book that you pulled the quote from, and you are required to provide citation when you take a quote from somewhere to make your point.  Or, like GM said, it is plagiarizing.

    Also - the "study" is so vague in that quote that it really is not good "evidence" to your argument.  "Some study by NHI" isn't really a great argumentative point. 

    As a "lawyer", neither of these things should not be news to you.

    She really should just go all Ann Coulter on us and say "According to a Lexus Nexus search ovulate appears 1111 times in the same sentence as menstruation therefore bootstraps and pregnancy, biitches!" 

  • imageCLECyclist:
    imagenic326:

    I would hate to be represented by an attorney who cant stand up to verbal attacks and criticism 

    I know, right?

    Exactly. Also, you can thank spell check for making you look smart in your legal briefs.



    Me: 32 DH: 31.
    B/W: good. SA: good.
    November 2012: Paratubal cyst found during U/S.
    January 10, 2013: Lap removed paratubal cyst and Stage 2 Endometriosis. 
    3 cycles of Femara + TI = BFNs

    June 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 37.5 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFN

    July 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 75 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFP!!!!

    Beta 1 @ 11 DPIUI = 76. Progesterone = 27.3

    BFP 8/16/2013 // EDD 4/28/2014

    Jordan Samuel born April 19, 2014. 6 lb, 12 oz and 18 inches long.

     

     CLICK ME!!!11!!1111!!

     

  • imagelauramk31:
    imagebettywhitettgp:
    imagelauramk31:
    fine, whatever, I guarantee I'm smarter than all of you put together, but why bother.  You can all kiss my *ss whenever you feel like it.


    You may be smarter than us, have a degree in both anatomy/physiology and law from an elite university, but then why must you use use random capitalization to add emphasis to what you're saying (in addition to your other glaring grammar and spelling mistakes that I am not even going to touch). If you want to add emphasis to your words, try saying something intelligent!

    Actually, my grammar is phenomenal in my legal briefs..b/c you guessed it, I am an attorney...good for you!  You get a gold star!   The issue is that when I get flustered b/c I'm being attacked, and criticized incorrectly I type on my computer very  quickly..so learn the difference between spelling mistakes and typos!  I've seen some from you all, too!!  Oh my, the horror!  And what I have been saying is intelligent. I guess you should find someone who got pregnant when she didn't chart her ovulation, and her guy pulled out in time?!  B/c then maybe you'll believe that a person can get pregnant other than those 2 charted ovulation days!  Ciao...it's been real (and obviously, this board has some really stressed and bitter people on it, so I think I'll move on....)  You all need to relax and take a vacation.  Trying to get pregnant makes you really quite nasty and critical...

    Hmm Your writing and argument skills are just as amazing as the attorneys I supervise! Confused

     TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38
    Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.

    Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!

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  • imagegrr_aargh:
    imagebbg676:
    imagelauramk31:

    The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up. 

    Doesn't matter that the study is referenced (and not quoted) within your quote.  Your source is the webpage or book that you pulled the quote from, and you are required to provide citation when you take a quote from somewhere to make your point.  Or, like GM said, it is plagiarizing.

    Also - the "study" is so vague in that quote that it really is not good "evidence" to your argument.  "Some study by NHI" isn't really a great argumentative point. 

    As a "lawyer", neither of these things should not be news to you.

    She really should just go all Ann Coulter on us and say "According to a Lexus Nexus search ovulate appears 1111 times in the same sentence as menstruation therefore bootstraps and pregnancy, biitches!" 

    lol 

  • imageKateMW:
    imagegrr_aargh:
    imagebbg676:
    imagelauramk31:

    The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up. 

    Doesn't matter that the study is referenced (and not quoted) within your quote.  Your source is the webpage or book that you pulled the quote from, and you are required to provide citation when you take a quote from somewhere to make your point.  Or, like GM said, it is plagiarizing.

    Also - the "study" is so vague in that quote that it really is not good "evidence" to your argument.  "Some study by NHI" isn't really a great argumentative point. 

    As a "lawyer", neither of these things should not be news to you.

    She really should just go all Ann Coulter on us and say "According to a Lexus Nexus search ovulate appears 1111 times in the same sentence as menstruation therefore bootstraps and pregnancy, biitches!" 

    lol 

    You guys can make fun of me all you want, but the fact of the matter  remains the same.  You are so ignorant, and so set in your ways, that if you don't attempt to conceive during that brief window of time charted on your ovulation calendar, it won't happen!  Well, newsflash, wake up already!  It's such a shame that the name calling, and the arrogance possessed by this group, continues to happen....apparently, no one can handle the truth..Just want to criticize, mock my career choice (and grammar, which doesn't even make sense since I've seen how people write here, and this isn't any formal document, so excuse me for not writing up to your expectations!).  Regardless, even with any articles or medical journals that I'd present here, you only want to believe what you want to believe.  That's fine....  So be it.  Just grow up already.  Name calling is so juvenile...I think that your only 'outlet' are these blogs.  Find a new hobby. Don't be so bitter...there's no point.  LIfe is too short.

  • imageSlapptastic:
    imagelauramk31:

    You guys can make fun of me all you want, but the fact of the matter  remains the same.  You are so ignorant, and so set in your ways, that if you don't attempt to conceive during that brief window of time charted on your ovulation calendar, it won't happen!  Well, newsflash, wake up already!  It's such a shame that the name calling, and the arrogance possessed by this group, continues to happen....apparently, no one can handle the truth..Just want to criticize, mock my career choice (and grammar, which doesn't even make sense since I've seen how people write here, and this isn't any formal document, so excuse me for not writing up to your expectations!).  Regardless, even with any articles or medical journals that I'd present here, you only want to believe what you want to believe.  That's fine....  So be it.  Just grow up already.  Name calling is so juvenile...I think that your only 'outlet' are these blogs.  Find a new hobby. Don't be so bitter...there's no point.  LIfe is too short.

    Wow!  This is still going on?

    Ovulation calendar?  Those things are crap.  I use OPKs, CM, and temp to confirm my ovulation.  It worked for other family members and it's working for me.  You can definitely see when I ovulate.  And no, it isn't during my period.  It's been anywhere from CD12 - CD17 for me.

    What blogs?  This is a public message forum.  Not a blog.  Big difference.  Look it up.

    The rest of what you wrote?  I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.  You obviously didn't lurk here before posting and are incredibly butthurt.  I'm surprised that you haven't GBCB yet.

    <Edited to add some text.  Bump is being weird.>

     

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

  • imagelauramk31:
    imageKateMW:
    imagegrr_aargh:
    imagebbg676:
    imagelauramk31:

    The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up. 

    Doesn't matter that the study is referenced (and not quoted) within your quote.  Your source is the webpage or book that you pulled the quote from, and you are required to provide citation when you take a quote from somewhere to make your point.  Or, like GM said, it is plagiarizing.

    Also - the "study" is so vague in that quote that it really is not good "evidence" to your argument.  "Some study by NHI" isn't really a great argumentative point. 

    As a "lawyer", neither of these things should not be news to you.

    She really should just go all Ann Coulter on us and say "According to a Lexus Nexus search ovulate appears 1111 times in the same sentence as menstruation therefore bootstraps and pregnancy, biitches!" 

    lol 

    You guys can make fun of me all you want, but the fact of the matter  remains the same.  You are so ignorant, and so set in your ways, that if you don't attempt to conceive during that brief window of time charted on your ovulation calendar, it won't happen!  Well, newsflash, wake up already!  It's such a shame that the name calling, and the arrogance possessed by this group, continues to happen....apparently, no one can handle the truth..Just want to criticize, mock my career choice (and grammar, which doesn't even make sense since I've seen how people write here, and this isn't any formal document, so excuse me for not writing up to your expectations!).  Regardless, even with any articles or medical journals that I'd present here, you only want to believe what you want to believe.  That's fine....  So be it.  Just grow up already.  Name calling is so juvenile...I think that your only 'outlet' are these blogs.  Find a new hobby. Don't be so bitter...there's no point.  LIfe is too short.

    FFS you're still coming back to this? I thought you were done with us like 10 posts ago? What point are you even trying to make anymore? That we should all totally try to get pregnant during our periods because there's a remote chance that we could ovulate? Yeah, we'll all get right on that.

    And BTW? You're the only one sounding bitter.

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  • imageWolfette139:
    imagelauramk31:

    You are so ignorant, and so set in your ways, that if you don't attempt to conceive during that brief window of time charted on your ovulation calendar, it won't happen!  

    Taken from your "proof"

    The American Pregnancy Association encourages women to learn about the fertility awareness method of tracking cycles and then combine that with ovulation predictor kits to best understand when you are ovulating. 

    During the time of ovulation, an egg is available to be fertilized for only about 12-24 hours. But since sperm can live in the body for 3-5 days and then the egg is available for one day, your most fertile time is considered to be about 5-7 days. 

     

    imagelauramk31:

    I think that your only 'outlet' are these blogs.  

     

    FFS this is not a blog!  It is an internet message board or did they not teach the difference at your elite college? 

     

    Yes, this is a great source.  And again, all she said was it could happen.  Did you not read her argument?

     And who are you to comment on whether it is a blog or forum, and make fun of her that way? Wow, you are so wise. Did you attend an elite college?  If so, didn't they teach you some things about manners?   You have some nerve.

  • imagebbg676:
    imagelauramk31:

    The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up. 

    Doesn't matter that the study is referenced (and not quoted) within your quote.  Your source is the webpage or book that you pulled the quote from, and you are required to provide citation when you take a quote from somewhere to make your point.  Or, like GM said, it is plagiarizing.

    Also - the "study" is so vague in that quote that it really is not good "evidence" to your argument.  "Some study by NHI" isn't really a great argumentative point. 

    As a "lawyer", neither of these things should not be news to you.

    I can't see why she wouldn't have linked her source, since it was the super-reliable, 100% accurate WiseGeek.comConfused And if she had linked it we would have seen that the very next sentence in the article (if you can call it that) was, "While the rhythm method may be appropriate for couples trying to become pregnant, it often fails when used to avoid pregnancy." Does she not understand that there's a big difference between the rhythm method and what most of us do to detect ovulation?

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    imagebbg676:
    imagelauramk31:

    The study is quoted within the source, and I'm not making crap up. 

    Doesn't matter that the study is referenced (and not quoted) within your quote.  Your source is the webpage or book that you pulled the quote from, and you are required to provide citation when you take a quote from somewhere to make your point.  Or, like GM said, it is plagiarizing.

    Also - the "study" is so vague in that quote that it really is not good "evidence" to your argument.  "Some study by NHI" isn't really a great argumentative point. 

    As a "lawyer", neither of these things should not be news to you.

    She really should just go all Ann Coulter on us and say "According to a Lexus Nexus search ovulate appears 1111 times in the same sentence as menstruation therefore bootstraps and pregnancy, biitches!" 

    lol 

    You guys can make fun of me all you want, but the fact of the matter  remains the same.  You are so ignorant, and so set in your ways, that if you don't attempt to conceive during that brief window of time charted on your ovulation calendar, it won't happen!  Well, newsflash, wake up already!  It's such a shame that the name calling, and the arrogance possessed by this group, continues to happen....apparently, no one can handle the truth..Just want to criticize, mock my career choice (and grammar, which doesn't even make sense since I've seen how people write here, and this isn't any formal document, so excuse me for not writing up to your expectations!).  Regardless, even with any articles or medical journals that I'd present here, you only want to believe what you want to believe.  That's fine....  So be it.  Just grow up already.  Name calling is so juvenile...I think that your only 'outlet' are these blogs.  Find a new hobby. Don't be so bitter...there's no point.  LIfe is too short.

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  • imagemlane214:

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

    Firstly, I call AE.

    Secondly, your friends DH should probably request a DNA test.

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  • imagetptbabe:

    imagemlane214:

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

    Firstly, I call AE.

    Secondly, your friends DH should probably request a DNA test.

    Yeah no kidding!  Hmm



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  • imagetptbabe:

    imagemlane214:

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

    Firstly, I call AE.

    Secondly, your friends DH should probably request a DNA test.

    You guys really can't accept anything other than what has been drilled into your heads for so long, huh?  And let me ask you, how is that all working out?  Maybe, just maybe, some of you should just learn to address the issue at hand, and not simply find something to attack in another person who posted comments: such as her being an attorney (which I think she would be excellent at since I bought her argument with flying colors...and I think she presented it well, much to all your chagrin), her grammar (also, which seemed fine to me as this is a board, not a letter to the president), and call her dumb, and other awful words. Are we in grade school, here?  You have nothing better to say, so you just say how stupid she is?  Esp. when her points are valid ones!  I think many of you are the ones who look pretty stupid, quite honestly.

    Look, everyone should do whatever works best for them, but don't bite people's heads off simply b/c they are pointing out that there are other possibilities out there (not necessarily the norm, but definitely possible!).

    Just learn to not always insult, attack, demean, etc....  You all ganged up on her.  And for what? 

    Good luck TTC. Some of you really should think twice about being parents based on how you've been acting. 

  • imagemlane214:
    imagetptbabe:

    imagemlane214:

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

    Firstly, I call AE.

    Secondly, your friends DH should probably request a DNA test.

    You guys really can't accept anything other than what has been drilled into your heads for so long, huh?  And let me ask you, how is that all working out?  Maybe, just maybe, some of you should just learn to address the issue at hand, and not simply find something to attack in another person who posted comments: such as her being an attorney (which I think she would be excellent at since I bought her argument with flying colors...and I think she presented it well, much to all your chagrin), her grammar (also, which seemed fine to me as this is a board, not a letter to the president), and call her dumb, and other awful words. Are we in grade school, here?  You have nothing better to say, so you just say how stupid she is?  Esp. when her points are valid ones!  I think many of you are the ones who look pretty stupid, quite honestly.

    Look, everyone should do whatever works best for them, but don't bite people's heads off simply b/c they are pointing out that there are other possibilities out there (not necessarily the norm, but definitely possible!).

    Just learn to not always insult, attack, demean, etc....  You all ganged up on her.  And for what? 

    Good luck TTC. Some of you really should think twice about being parents based on how you've been acting. 

    If you'd be so kind as to point out where I called somebody stupid, or bit somebody's head off, I would really appreciate that, thanks.

    I can assure you that I have done my research on how the female and male reproductive systems work. It sounds to me like your friend is trying to cover up the fact that she got pregnant by another man. I'm just being honest.

    And I am an awesome mother. I've doubted myself since before DD was conceived, and I'm sure I'll wonder if I'm doing my best until I go to my grave, but she loves me and is happy and well-adjusted. So thank you for reminding me of the fact that I need to tell myself that sometimes.

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  • imagemlane214:
    imagetptbabe:

    imagemlane214:

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

    Firstly, I call AE.

    Secondly, your friends DH should probably request a DNA test.

    You guys really can't accept anything other than what has been drilled into your heads for so long, huh?  And let me ask you, how is that all working out?  Maybe, just maybe, some of you should just learn to address the issue at hand, and not simply find something to attack in another person who posted comments: such as her being an attorney (which I think she would be excellent at since I bought her argument with flying colors...and I think she presented it well, much to all your chagrin), her grammar (also, which seemed fine to me as this is a board, not a letter to the president), and call her dumb, and other awful words. Are we in grade school, here?  You have nothing better to say, so you just say how stupid she is?  Esp. when her points are valid ones!  I think many of you are the ones who look pretty stupid, quite honestly.

    Look, everyone should do whatever works best for them, but don't bite people's heads off simply b/c they are pointing out that there are other possibilities out there (not necessarily the norm, but definitely possible!).

    Just learn to not always insult, attack, demean, etc....  You all ganged up on her.  And for what? 

    Good luck TTC. Some of you really should think twice about being parents based on how you've been acting. 

    Exactly!  I didn't want to say something like that because I'd be sinking to their level. 

    Thank you, thank you!  Someone, other than myself, who actually has said something worthwhile here (without name calling, telling them how dumb they are, or abruptly attacking the people directly)! :)Thank you for understanding, and agreeing with me on this. Some people just cannot accept the unfamiliar! Or, they cannot at least acknowledge that there's a 'chance' that something else could happen!  And congrats to your friend...I'm sure the baby is her DH's, but some people who can't admit that they might have been wrong, can only find something nasty to say instead!  It's sad, really. Good luck to you, MLane.

     

  • imagelauramk31:
    imagemlane214:
    imagetptbabe:

    imagemlane214:

    Hi all, I'm new to this board, and kept quiet long enough as I was reading through this.  First of all, am I the only person who thinks that what Laura has been saying this whole time could definitely be true?  Is everyone here against her?  Or are some of you scared to be treated as nastily as she has been treated? I thought these forums were to be helpful, but quite frankly, they are the opposite. All you guys have done is call her some horrific names, insult her profession, and her grammar.  Really?  Nothing better to do, huh?

      Let me just say that, without medical journals to back me up, that, my best friend actually got pregnant the day before, or first day, of her period (she knows the difference btw implantation bleeding, thank you!)!  Yes, her husband was away in the military so that was the only day they could have conceived her son...her dr. said she probably released two eggs that month, or it occurred at a time close to her menstrual cycle.  Therefore, with sperm living for a few days, pregnancy happened!

    All that Laura has been saying from the beginning is that it could happen.  But by calling her a name that I can't even say as it makes me blush, and criticizing everything she has said and done from the start, is disgusting to me.

    I didn't realize that women who are trying to conceive are just so extra hormonal or something.  You should be nicer to her.  She didn't do or say anything that many of us don't know. We just can't all accept it, I suppose. She only got defensive when you guys all attacked her at once.  I don't blame her.  You were all very harsh.

    I thought that she needed someone on her side, and someone who knew that her argument was valid. 

    But you guys really turned me off from these boards b/c the way you treated her was so nasty, rude, and quite honestly, unnecessary, b/c she was right!  Yet, no one can accept that! YOu are asking for scientific journals and proof to back it up?  Really?  What is wrong with you all?

    Good luck to you in your pregnancy dreams.  It is time for me to move on...

    Firstly, I call AE.

    Secondly, your friends DH should probably request a DNA test.

    You guys really can't accept anything other than what has been drilled into your heads for so long, huh?  And let me ask you, how is that all working out?  Maybe, just maybe, some of you should just learn to address the issue at hand, and not simply find something to attack in another person who posted comments: such as her being an attorney (which I think she would be excellent at since I bought her argument with flying colors...and I think she presented it well, much to all your chagrin), her grammar (also, which seemed fine to me as this is a board, not a letter to the president), and call her dumb, and other awful words. Are we in grade school, here?  You have nothing better to say, so you just say how stupid she is?  Esp. when her points are valid ones!  I think many of you are the ones who look pretty stupid, quite honestly.

    Look, everyone should do whatever works best for them, but don't bite people's heads off simply b/c they are pointing out that there are other possibilities out there (not necessarily the norm, but definitely possible!).

    Just learn to not always insult, attack, demean, etc....  You all ganged up on her.  And for what? 

    Good luck TTC. Some of you really should think twice about being parents based on how you've been acting. 

    Exactly!  I didn't want to say something like that because I'd be sinking to their level. 

    Thank you, thank you!  Someone, other than myself, who actually has said something worthwhile here (without name calling, telling them how dumb they are, or abruptly attacking the people directly)! :)Thank you for understanding, and agreeing with me on this. Some people just cannot accept the unfamiliar! Or, they cannot at least acknowledge that there's a 'chance' that something else could happen!  And congrats to your friend...I'm sure the baby is her DH's, but some people who can't admit that they might have been wrong, can only find something nasty to say instead!  It's sad, really. Good luck to you, MLane.

     

    What kind of law do you practice if you have all this time to have an imaginary friends? 

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