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PSA: people don't die of cancer anymore

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Discussing why the ACA is bad:

?People now don?t die from prostate cancer, breast cancer and some of the other things,? Collins said.   ?The fact of the matter is, our healthcare today is so much better, we?re living so much longer, because of innovations in drug development, surgical procedures, stents, implantable cardiac defibrillators, neural stimulators ? they didn?t exist 10 years ago. The increase in cost is not because doctors are making a lot more money. It?s what you can get for healthcare, extending your life and curing diseases.?  eta: Collins is a R running for NY Congress.

https://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2012/07/03/collins-people-dont-die-from-prostate-breast-cancers-anymore/

eta from the same article (and source is National Cancer Institute):National Cancer Institute figures show a very different story: Breast cancer kills about 40,000 women a year in the US. Prostate cancer kills about 30,000 men. Five year mortality rates are 23% for breast cancer, 26% for prostate cancer. Only colorectal cancer and lung cancer kill more Americans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • What a fucknut.
  • Well I suppose that's encouraging news since my dad was just diagnosed with prostate cancer. I'll just stop worrying about it now.
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  • Oy vey1 I get that he is trying to say that it is rare that people die from certain types of cancer, but better words should have been chosen. It kind of makes light of the people that are victims of of prostate and breast cancer.
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  • Ugh, I couldn't get through that. I need a glass of wine. I'm not going to argue with stupid, he'll win. I imagined that my aunt died of cancer. Yup, all in my head.
  • Right... it was something else that killed my mom. Not the cancer at all.  



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  • This is the sort of BS you read when people allow politics to form their science instead of their science forming their politics.

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  • I knew that some politicians were really stupid, but I think this takes the cake.
  • imageVenus04d:
    This is the sort of BS you read when people allow politics to form their science instead of their science forming their politics.

    follow the link and look at the picture!  lol.

     

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    He should be forced to tour a cancer ward. 
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  • So..... where are all the people who the hospitals claim have died of cancer hiding???

    CONSPIRACY!!!!

  • I should introduce that guy to my stepdad, who was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2002. 

     

    Oh but I can't, because he's f*cking dead.  DEAD DEAD DIDDILY EAD.

    From prostate cancer.  First it got his prostate, then his lymph nodes, then his lungs, back, and liver.  And then my daughter did a ballet dance in his ICU room the night we unhooked all of his wires and tubes and then he died.

     

     

  • imageHeather R:

    imageVenus04d:
    This is the sort of BS you read when people allow politics to form their science instead of their science forming their politics.

    follow the link and look at the picture!  lol.

     

    Oh my gosh! EPIC.

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  • imagegrr_aargh:

    I should introduce that guy to my stepdad, who was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2002. 

     

    Oh but I can't, because he's f*cking dead.  DEAD DEAD DIDDILY EAD.

    From prostate cancer.  First it got his prostate, then his lymph nodes, then his lungs, back, and liver.  And then my daughter did a ballet dance in his ICU room the night we unhooked all of his wires and tubes and then he died. 

     

    This made me cry.  I'm sorry for your loss. 

  • I'm sorry.  Sad  I posted this flippantly not thinking of people's painful personal memories.

    Would you rather I delete?

     

     

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  • imagegrr_aargh:

    I should introduce that guy to my stepdad, who was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2002. 

     

    Oh but I can't, because he's f*cking dead.  DEAD DEAD DIDDILY EAD.

    From prostate cancer.  First it got his prostate, then his lymph nodes, then his lungs, back, and liver.  And then my daughter did a ballet dance in his ICU room the night we unhooked all of his wires and tubes and then he died.

     

    This is the same progression of the disease by which we lost my uncle.  I'm so sorry for your loss.

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    imagegrr_aargh:

    I should introduce that guy to my stepdad, who was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2002. 

     

    Oh but I can't, because he's f*cking dead.  DEAD DEAD DIDDILY EAD.

    From prostate cancer.  First it got his prostate, then his lymph nodes, then his lungs, back, and liver.  And then my daughter did a ballet dance in his ICU room the night we unhooked all of his wires and tubes and then he died. 

     

    This made me cry.  I'm sorry for your loss. 

    I'm sorry.  He was the most amazing man I've ever met.  I'm not overstating it.  He was a campus minister for 20 years before he went to Congregational ministry - and he encouraged me to explore religion from all points, with a deep and abiding faith that I'd come back to the church when I was ready - and he always let me know that the church was there for me even if I wasn't there for it.

    He'd call me every Wednesday after his appointments and talk to me about parenting and poetry and the lesions that were taking over his liver.  It was so so so hard.  It's been 5 1/2 years and it's STILL hard.  

    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    So, I mean, this is kind of a hot button issue for me.  

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    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    Why do people say this?  It's what everyone told us too.  I was just married and we were going to postpone our honeymoon but my grandmother told me he had all this time.  We were gone 5 days and he passed the day before we returned.  I've never forgiven myself for not being able to say goodbye. 

  • imagegrr_aargh:
    imagequidditchcapn1120:
    imagegrr_aargh:

    I should introduce that guy to my stepdad, who was diagnosed with Prostate cancer in 2002. 

     

    Oh but I can't, because he's f*cking dead.  DEAD DEAD DIDDILY EAD.

    From prostate cancer.  First it got his prostate, then his lymph nodes, then his lungs, back, and liver.  And then my daughter did a ballet dance in his ICU room the night we unhooked all of his wires and tubes and then he died. 

     

    This made me cry.  I'm sorry for your loss. 

    I'm sorry.  He was the most amazing man I've ever met.  I'm not overstating it.  He was a campus minister for 20 years before he went to Congregational ministry - and he encouraged me to explore religion from all points, with a deep and abiding faith that I'd come back to the church when I was ready - and he always let me know that the church was there for me even if I wasn't there for it.

    He'd call me every Wednesday after his appointments and talk to me about parenting and poetry and the lesions that were taking over his liver.  It was so so so hard.  It's been 5 1/2 years and it's STILL hard.  

    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    So, I mean, this is kind of a hot button issue for me.  

    I'm sorry to both of you. No cancer is okay to have, ever. People are insensitive. ((hugs))

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  • imageHeather R:

    I'm sorry.  Sad  I posted this flippantly not thinking of people's painful personal memories.

    Would you rather I delete?

     

     

    What?  God no.  Everyone should learn of this dude's total douchebaggery.

     

    Plus, I really really REALLY am a fan of being honest about prostate cancer.  CANCER KILLS PEOPLE.  The best cure is prevention and early detection.  If only my stepfather had gone for an annual physical instead of one every 3 years, who knows, he might still be with us, you know?

     

     

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    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    Why do people say this?  It's what everyone told us too.  I was just married and we were going to postpone our honeymoon but my grandmother told me he had all this time.  We were gone 5 days and he passed the day before we returned.  I've never forgiven myself for not being able to say goodbye. 

    They want to believe it's true?  Everyone else says it?  I don't know, I really don't.

     

    We were gobsmacked when it caught up with my stepfather.  Totally knocked down.  I didn't think he'd die.  I figured it would be a giant PITA and he'd suffer.  But I never, ever, EVER thought he'd die.  

  • imagegrr_aargh:
    imagekissyfitt:
    imagegrr_aargh:
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    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    Why do people say this?  It's what everyone told us too.  I was just married and we were going to postpone our honeymoon but my grandmother told me he had all this time.  We were gone 5 days and he passed the day before we returned.  I've never forgiven myself for not being able to say goodbye. 

    They want to believe it's true?  Everyone else says it?  I don't know, I really don't.

     

    We were gobsmacked when it caught up with my stepfather.  Totally knocked down.  I didn't think he'd die.  I figured it would be a giant PITA and he'd suffer.  But I never, ever, EVER thought he'd die.  

    I have to say that I desperately want to believe it. It's what I've been telling myself over and over for the last 3 weeks. I think it's something to hold on to when you're faced with the really scary stuff in life. I logically know that people die from prostate cancer. I logically know that it's possible that my dad could die from prostate cancer. But I really want to believe that he won't. It makes me want to throw up when I think about it. But I can see how it would sound really insensitive to someone who had lost a loved one already.

  • I am sorry for all your losses.

     

     

     

    Please dont DD, people need to see/read the idiocy themselves, or they may vote for the douchebag at some time.

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  • imagejudahsmommy1:
    imagegrr_aargh:
    imagekissyfitt:
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    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    Why do people say this?  It's what everyone told us too.  I was just married and we were going to postpone our honeymoon but my grandmother told me he had all this time.  We were gone 5 days and he passed the day before we returned.  I've never forgiven myself for not being able to say goodbye. 

    They want to believe it's true?  Everyone else says it?  I don't know, I really don't.

     

    We were gobsmacked when it caught up with my stepfather.  Totally knocked down.  I didn't think he'd die.  I figured it would be a giant PITA and he'd suffer.  But I never, ever, EVER thought he'd die.  

    I have to say that I desperately want to believe it. It's what I've been telling myself over and over for the last 3 weeks. I think it's something to hold on to when you're faced with the really scary stuff in life. I logically know that people die from prostate cancer. I logically know that it's possible that my dad could die from prostate cancer. But I really want to believe that he won't. It makes me want to throw up when I think about it. But I can see how it would sound really insensitive to someone who had lost a loved one already.

    The truth is that MANY people do survive prostate cancer.  MANY do.  4 of 5 men are alive 5 years after diagnosis.  These are good things.   That is true. 

     

    It's the platitudes that bug me.  

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    imagegrr_aargh:
    imagekissyfitt:
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    EVERYONE told us "prostate cancer doesn't kill people - it's the best cancer to have!" when he was diagnosed.  EVERYONE told us that.  "Oh, thank god it's not lung cancer".  "Thank god it's not brain cancer!" And on and on and on.

    Why do people say this?  It's what everyone told us too.  I was just married and we were going to postpone our honeymoon but my grandmother told me he had all this time.  We were gone 5 days and he passed the day before we returned.  I've never forgiven myself for not being able to say goodbye. 

    They want to believe it's true?  Everyone else says it?  I don't know, I really don't.

     

    We were gobsmacked when it caught up with my stepfather.  Totally knocked down.  I didn't think he'd die.  I figured it would be a giant PITA and he'd suffer.  But I never, ever, EVER thought he'd die.  

    I have to say that I desperately want to believe it. It's what I've been telling myself over and over for the last 3 weeks. I think it's something to hold on to when you're faced with the really scary stuff in life. I logically know that people die from prostate cancer. I logically know that it's possible that my dad could die from prostate cancer. But I really want to believe that he won't. It makes me want to throw up when I think about it. But I can see how it would sound really insensitive to someone who had lost a loved one already.

    The truth is that MANY people do survive prostate cancer.  MANY do.  4 of 5 men are alive 5 years after diagnosis.  These are good things.   That is true. 

     

    It's the platitudes that bug me.  

    Thank you for your reassuring words. And I am so sorry for your loss. 

  • imagejudahsmommy1:

    Thank you for your reassuring words. And I am so sorry for your loss. 

    If you have questions about it, I'd be happy to talk about it.  It's very daunting staring down cancer - with all of the medical terminology and all of that. 

    I promise I'm not always this sad and angry about it.  

  • My mom was told that she had stage 4 breast cancer and that it was treatable and she told us that she would be fine. The day of her second chemo treatment, her blood pressure crashed and she died less than a week later and it turned out to be a rare cancer that I still can't really find any information on.


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  • Great to know... so I guess I can start skipping my routine bloodwork and CT scans since my last relapse of Lymphoma? Think of the money I'll save, now that I know that my cancer won't come back (again) and kill me! Maybe I can even get this port taken out of my chest, finally... 

    What an idiotic piece of shiit. 

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