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How many of you did down syndrome testing?

Had my 16 week appointment today! Everything went perfect :) Hearing my LOs heartbeat always makes all the worries go away!

 My doctor asked me if i wanted to do the down syndrome blood testing at all! She said i'm so young (21) with no history on any sides of the families that it's pretty pointless, and she also said she doesn't recommend it unless needed.

How many of you did it? 

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  • I did.  My midwife gave us the option and told us why people do it and why people opt out.  We wouldn't have terminated if the test came back positive, but we wanted to be able to plan and be prepared as best as possible for our child.  I'm happy we did it, because we got to see our baby for a long time (while measurements were taken) on a big screen :-)
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  • We did an NT scan and a Quad screen, it was the level of testing my husband and I decided on.
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  • I'll have to read over it more! I suppose it wouldn't hurt, but she also told when they give you numbers of some sort a lot of women get stressed out. 
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    I am also confused as to how you doctor would know it was "needed" without some sort of screening test.  

    She was saying that with family history. I guess i should read up on it. She didn't give me TOO much info.  

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  • I did not get the testing done...I did not ask my doctor her opinion one way or another. The form they gave me for the testing stated that if it the results say the risk is high it doesn't mean they have it, and if the results say the risk is low, they could still have it. Whether or not the risk is high or low it will not change anything, so I decided not to do the test.

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  • I did - both the NT scan and the maternit21. I've never entirely understood the reluctance to find out. I think information is power. While my husband and I were one of the couples who would have terminated if there was a problem, even if abortion isn't an option, you can use that information to start arranging early intervention, physical therapists to help your child with DS suck, etc.Caring for a newborn with Down's or other trisomies can be incredibly difficult - I imagine anything you can set up in advance is helpful!

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  • We did it because we wanted to know if there were any issues that we should prepare ourselves for in the future. If my baby is going to be born with something I want to do as much research of the issues are possible and have the right doctors and treatments lined up. For myself and my husband I can't imagine having a baby born with an issue and not knowing anything about it until it is born (not to say that, that still can't happen). I wanted to be prepared. 
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    Not me.

    A) I would never terminate due to something like this

    B) I really don't need something else to worry and stress about

    C) It just gives you probabilities. I am a person the needs definitive answers and I don't like proablilities.

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  • We did the nt scan, I just did it to get to see my baby again. Everything came back fine. But I do know that sometimes the numbers do get women worried. My SIL got it done and got pos results and she is young, she was really freaked out. Her A/S did not show any other markers, so they lower the chances a bit. You just have to remember that its not a diagnosis.

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  • imagenealbl:

    Not me.

    A) I would never terminate due to something like this

    B) I really don't need something else to worry and stress about

    C) It just gives you probabilities. I am a person the needs definitive answers and I don't like proablilities.

     

    Exactly this.  After you find out, you can't prevent any of it. 

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    Not me.

    A) I would never terminate due to something like this

    B) I really don't need something else to worry and stress about

    C) It just gives you probabilities. I am a person the needs definitive answers and I don't like proablilities.

     

    This. Exactly. 

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  • imagenealbl:

    Not me.

    A) I would never terminate due to something like this

    B) I really don't need something else to worry and stress about

    C) It just gives you probabilities. I am a person the needs definitive answers and I don't like proablilities.

    That was my thought process...I'm still doing research about downs and different genetic problems that could potentially happen with the baby, but I would freak out if the results came back high and would wind up being a complete basket case for the rest of my pregnancy.

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    I did not get the testing done...I did not ask my doctor her opinion one way or another. The form they gave me for the testing stated that if it the results say the risk is high it doesn't mean they have it, and if the results say the risk is low, they could still have it. Whether or not the risk is high or low it will not change anything, so I decided not to do the test.

    This is exactly why I didn't do it either. It seemed like just one more thing to stress me out during pregnancy if the results came back high and there was nothing to actually worry about. The only reason I considered doing it was so we could be prepared just in case.

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  • I'm surprised they only just brought this up. Usually it's done around 12 weeks (ultrasound and bloodwork) and more bloodwork at 16 weeks. And it's not just for Downs but for other issues as well. Most doctors give you a scope of testing that will be done throughout the whole pregnancy, and even though you are young and the chances are lower I find it strange that a doctor would act like it it pointless and not give you a little more information. Anywho, it's up to you. I did it because a) I would want to know ahead of time if there was an issue, b) it was an extra ultrasound, and c) my insurance covered everything.




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    Had my 16 week appointment today! Everything went perfect :) Hearing my LOs heartbeat always makes all the worries go away!

     My doctor asked me if i wanted to do the down syndrome blood testing at all! She said i'm so young (21) with no history on any sides of the families that it's pretty pointless, and she also said she doesn't recommend it unless needed.

    How many of you did it? 

    I'm 22 years old (but was adopted, but as far as immediate blood family, there isn't anyone who has a chromosomal defect that I know of) and I didn't do the blood test/screening just because my husband and I felt that there was really no point as to finding out before the birth as there would be no termination of pregnancy no matter what.

    At my A/S ultrasound they found that one of my baby's femurs is shorter than the other, but not by much. It was only measuring about a week behind, but it still is worrying me. I have another ultrasound today to see if the leg has grown or if it was just a mistake that the tech made.

    In the end though, I wish I would have had the screening/blood test done, just because I don't think I'd be worrying this much about it/I would feel more prepared kwim?  

    If you are like me, and you worry about things that may or may not mean anything (like a femur being a week behind in growth), I would get it. 

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  • At this point i feel like i'm being selfish, i'm almost scared to do it.....I'll be talking with my boyfriend once he gets home and see what he thinks we should do. I want everything to be okay, but then again its like i would want to know if something was wrong so i can prepare for it..
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    At this point i feel like i'm being selfish, i'm almost scared to do it.....I'll be talking with my boyfriend once he gets home and see what he thinks we should do. I want everything to be okay, but then again its like i would want to know if something was wrong so i can prepare for it..

    Don't feel selfish! You are putting your mind at ease! I would rather have "wasted" the money on the test and felt at ease than to go through what I am right now! Good luck! :) 

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  • We did the NT scan at our 12 week ultrasound. It seemed routine from what my OB told me. I'm a first time mom with no reason to worry, but I figured it was better safe than sorry!
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  • I did (I'm 30), we were also very low risk but for us it was to ease our minds, or if it did turn out badly then at least we would be prepared (luckily everything was perfect).

    at 21 though I think I'd probably pass on it. 

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  • We did the blood test at 12 weeks only because of my age (34 now, will be 35 when I deliver). We have no family history but we wanted to be prepared if something was wrong.

    I am also considered high risk since I am on prednisone for my Crohn's disease. So I'll take any extra testing.  

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    We did not do it because of the high risk for false positives and, as one of the previous posters said, the test only tells you risk levels which would only make me worry without any definitive reason to do so. Like you, we had no other risk factors (family history, age, etc) so decided against it. We went through infertility so I worry enough as it is!
  • Personally, I'm in the wanting to know for preparation purposes. While you are only given odds, there are now tests like the MaterniT21 or whatever that can give you definitive answers without the invasive procedures like amnio. 
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  • I did, but only because at my ultra sound they found an isolated choroid plexus cyst.  They aren't harmful, but can be a soft marker for trisomy 18.  Our test was a big relief for us because the results were 1 in 99,000 for trisomy 18, and 1 in 20,000 for down syndrome.

     If they hadn't found the cyst on the ultra sound, we woudn't have done it.  I've read that the test has a high false positive rate.  So if there's nothing wrong on your ultrasound, why risk cause yourself undue stress. 

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    I did - both the NT scan and the maternit21. I've never entirely understood the reluctance to find out. I think information is power.

     

    This exactly.

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  • As a few people mentioned, it is not just for DS, but many other chromosomal abnormalities, some of which may be life threatening to the baby. And they have nothing to do with your age, or your family history of births, necessarily. Sometimes it could be dormant traits that you and your DH both carry, unbeknownst to you, that when combined could be devastating. 

    I just do not understand the mentality of "Well, I wouldn't terminate anyway, so whats the point of having the test?" I wouldn't terminate either, but I sure as hell would want to be prepared to have a special needs child. I would want to be able to research the disorder, find out what treatments or medical care will be covered by insurance, find an OB and pediatrician who specialize in said disorders, and make sure I have the emotional support I would absolutely require. Do you really want to have to figure all of that out during your baby's first days of life? To have that bonding interrupted? Leaving things to chance is just irresponsible, IMO. Knowledge is power.

     

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  • I did the standard testing here, NT ultrasound and two blood tests. I haven't had results back yet, have an appointment in a week.

    I can't view it as a little thing - I had a brother die at 7 months from a genetic disorder (a deletion on chromosome 22) that has a similar severity profile to down's syndrome - one of the things possible in both is heart defects of different levels of severity. The experience almost broke up my parents, and I really wouldn't want to go into something like that without warning at least. I don't know what choices I'd make with a bad screening test, exactly, but I can't dismiss it as no big deal. And the tests initially are non-invasive, and hopefully will make the odds so vanishingly small that I can assume the kidlet is normal.

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    I just do not understand the mentality of "Well, I wouldn't terminate anyway, so whats the point of having the test?" I wouldn't terminate either, but I sure as hell would want to be prepared to have a special needs child. I would want to be able to research the disorder, find out what treatments or medical care will be covered by insurance, find an OB and pediatrician who specialize in said disorders, and make sure I have the emotional support I would absolutely require. Do you really want to have to figure all of that out during your baby's first days of life? To have that bonding interrupted? Leaving things to chance is just irresponsible, IMO. Knowledge is power.

     

    This is exactly why DH and I are going through more testing right now.  I want my first days with my LO to be spent with my LO, not on the phone or computer scrambling to find things I could have had in place weeks before he was born.

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  • imagenealbl:

    Not me.

    A) I would never terminate due to something like this

    B) I really don't need something else to worry and stress about

    C) It just gives you probabilities. I am a person the needs definitive answers and I don't like proablilities.

    This exactly.

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  • I did it.

    At the very least I wanted to be as well prepared as possible. That said, if the issues were very severe I probably WOULD terminate. But I really couldn't say unless I was in that position.

    Like PP's said, information is power. Terminate or not, the more prepared you are for any issues (as well as your medical team), the better.  

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  • I did at 12 and 19 weeks, but I am considerably older than you so a lot more risk for me.  Plus, DH and I would terminate.  If we were not going to terminate, I probably would not have it done.
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    We did an NT scan and a Quad screen.

    This. My MFM/Ob office does this as a matter of course with IVF w/ ICSI babies as the risk of birth defects is slightly higher than normal with ICSI.

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  • I didn't read everyones posts so if someone said this I apologize. I am in a hurry to get to the pool and cool my DD and I off...Where I am from you get your ultrasounds done by a high risk specialist no matter what. The only ultrasound that you get in your OB/GYN is our intial internal to verify you are in fact pregnant. We were not going to do the testing because it didn't matter to us. We weren't going to end the pregnancy or anything like that if something came back as a possibility. Because that is all those tests tell you is that you have a 1 in whatever chance of possibily having that. However at the high risk you can opt out of the 13 week one but you are required to take the one at 20 weeks no matter what. If this is similar to the situation you are in then it was suggested to us that we start it at the 13 week one because it just makes it easier on us. The only thing is you have to go to the lab twice.

    As far as when the doctor thinks you may need it. There is no way unless they see something in the 3D or 4D scans which I am not even sure is possible to indicate that your child has downs or any of the other things tested for. So it is completely up to you. If you feel you would be at ease getting the test done then get it done. Don't let anyone talk you into or out of getting something done. It is your body and your baby make the decision that you want. I hope that this helps and best of luck on whatever you decide.

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  • I went ahead and did the blood test since I will be 35 when I deliver.  I haven't heard back yet so I guess I will find out the results at my next visit in a couple of weeks.
  • I did, We thought we would like to know either way, not to change our minds about keeping baby but to be prepared encase something does happen. 
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  • Unless you have been in the shoes of someone like myself - YOU.HAVE.NO.CLUE! 


    I'm sorry to be so blunt, but the whole presumptuous ignorance of some of these posts makes me skin crawl? There are so many illnesses our there - you have no clue what could or couldn't happen. I know 4 women IRL that had prognosis's outside of Downs (two of which were what our daughter went through) during the NT scan and ended up terminating due to medical cause. TDMC is not about "aborting" the baby, throwing it away, or giving it up? It is a act of love, compassion and the most selfless act and ultimate sacrifice a parent can make. 

    As you might have picked up, we terminated. Not at 12 weeks however. We were well within our 23 week. Our daughter was Dx with Amniotic Band Syndrome at 23 weeks 3 days. We were give two options: A.) Terminate B.) Allow her to suffer (oh and BTW, due to how far along we were, we have 4 whole hours to decide) I say suffer b/c amniotic bands were wrapped around her body in countless locations. As she grew (from 9-10 weeks) the bands did not. In turn, they fillets her body open, disfigured and relocated bone,  and amputated limbs. Our daughter suffered immeasurable. With each sway of the hip and kick of the foot, she was in agony. The fact that some of you point blank said: "I would never terminate" make me sick to my stomach. I get many of you were in the context of Downs -but many of you weren't. You can't imagine what is was like for us to know that the whole time our daughter suffered and we didn't do anything to stop it until 23 weeks. In fact, I had a PTSD dream about it Tuesday night. It still haunts me - almost 3 years later. 

    A.) you don't know what kind of prognosis that can occur - even at 12 weeks.  Lord knows we NEVER expected anything such as what our daughter went through could ever even occur to any baby!  

    B.) Until you are faced with a situation like ours, you DO NOT know how you would react. Please stop pretending otherwise.  It is insulting to us that had to make the worse decision we could possibly fathom. In the end, those of us who TDMC (and there is  more of us that you would ever know  as few of us actually speak up about it) sufficed our heart to SAVE our child from suffering. I would give my life in a minute to allow my daughter to have hers. Please don't pretend this isn't about love? cause it is the only thing it is about. 
     
    Sorry for the odd fond. I am at work and didn't feel comfortable typing all this with tb URL on my screen....  
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    imagenealbl:

    Not me.

    A) I would never terminate due to something like this

    B) I really don't need something else to worry and stress about

    C) It just gives you probabilities. I am a person the needs definitive answers and I don't like proablilities.

    Exactly this.  After you find out, you can't prevent any of it. 

    Ok, but you can educate and prepare yourself.  There are additional tests they can perform to determine conclusively depending on the results.  

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  • imageroxyttandme:

    Unless you have been in the shoes of someone like myself - YOU.HAVE.NO.CLUE! 

    Roxy - I'm so sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. My son's abdominal organs were formed outside of his body and we also had to terminate for medical reasons. We found out at our A/S, as we opted out of the NT scan because "we would never terminate anyway". No one knows how they would react or what decision they would make until the unthinkable is staring them in the face.

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    Unless you have been in the shoes of someone like myself - YOU.HAVE.NO.CLUE! 


    I'm sorry to be so blunt, but the whole presumptuous ignorance of some of these posts makes me skin crawl? There are so many illnesses our there - you have no clue what could or couldn't happen. I know 4 women IRL that had prognosis's outside of Downs (two of which were what our daughter went through) during the NT scan and ended up terminating due to medical cause. TDMC is not about "aborting" the baby, throwing it away, or giving it up? It is a act of love, compassion and the most selfless act and ultimate sacrifice a parent can make. 

    As you might have picked up, we terminated. Not at 12 weeks however. We were well within our 23 week. Our daughter was Dx with Amniotic Band Syndrome at 23 weeks 3 days. We were give two options: A.) Terminate B.) Allow her to suffer (oh and BTW, due to how far along we were, we have 4 whole hours to decide) I say suffer b/c amniotic bands were wrapped around her body in countless locations. As she grew (from 9-10 weeks) the bands did not. In turn, they fillets her body open, disfigured and relocated bone,  and amputated limbs. Our daughter suffered immeasurable. With each sway of the hip and kick of the foot, she was in agony. The fact that some of you point blank said: "I would never terminate" make me sick to my stomach. I get many of you were in the context of Downs -but many of you weren't. You can't imagine what is was like for us to know that the whole time our daughter suffered and we didn't do anything to stop it until 23 weeks. In fact, I had a PTSD dream about it Tuesday night. It still haunts me - almost 3 years later. 

    A.) you don't know what kind of prognosis that can occur - even at 12 weeks.  Lord knows we NEVER expected anything such as what our daughter went through could ever even occur to any baby!  

    B.) Until you are faced with a situation like ours, you DO NOT know how you would react. Please stop pretending otherwise.  It is insulting to us that had to make the worse decision we could possibly fathom. In the end, those of us who TDMC (and there is  more of us that you would ever know  as few of us actually speak up about it) sufficed our heart to SAVE our child from suffering. I would give my life in a minute to allow my daughter to have hers. Please don't pretend this isn't about love? cause it is the only thing it is about. 
     
    Sorry for the odd fond. I am at work and didn't feel comfortable typing all this with tb URL on my screen....  

    I did say that I wouldn't terminate, but I guess I was speaking more along the lines of Downs or a life-sustaining condition. If I were to face what you did, I absolutely would have made the same choice. There is no way I would want my child to suffer in agony for my own selfish desires, and prolong the inevitable.

    I am very sorry for your loss :(

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  • I'm a little irritated with how doctor's portray down syndrome (and the other trisomies) as inherited.  They ARE inherited in the sense that it is a chromosomal abnormality, passed from the egg or sperm to the child.  This random error (called "nondisjunction"), happens while the egg/sperm is forming and is NOT passed down through families.  While some families may have higher incidences of this type of mutation (trisomy) in the egg/sperm development process, not having any relatives with a trisomy disorder does NOT mean your children are "safe."  It is a random mutation and could literally affect anybody. 

    Odds of this type of mutation do increase greatly with maternal age, so you do have that in your favor.  I, too, am surprised this was mentioned at your 16 week appointment, as it is now too late to do the NT scan, which is the most reliable screening method.

     

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  • I did not. My insurance does not cover "unnecessary" medical testing anyway but the only thing you can change about it by knowing it whether or not you terminate and I would not have done that. My risk factors are low in the first place. And without an actual diagnosis if the numbers came back high it would stress me out, and make me more nervous in the future about having anymore kids. I think for someone like me (who worries over EVERYTHING) it's better to just go without it.
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