I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
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I bring a blanket with me for just such occasions. Lay it down on the floor of the restroom so your baby isn't directly on the floor, and wash the blanket when you get home.
Oh and that's not gross in itself.. not like its recommended that you DON'T put your purse on the floor because its how you can contract really gross bacteria.. not like they dont have those giant drains in the middle of the floor so they can use a garden hose to spray it down at night.. that is revolting...
I'm not even going to touch the ridiculousness of the other parts of your post...
What part of putting the blanket on the floor and then washing it afterward did you not understand? The blanket is for that express purpose. It is not then used to wrap my baby in. Diaper bags have compartments for changing pads. The blanket fits nicely inside of that compartment. Take it out and wash it afterward. Then clean that compartment. It isn't difficult to understand or do. However, doing so would require you to be considerate of the people around you, as well as rob you of the chance to feel entitled so I can see how that would be problematic.
so, let me get this straight...you will change your child ON A BLANKET on a public restroom floor. you will then pick your child up as well as the blanket (which was just ON THE FLOOR), and you will carry your child back to the table? so, now the germs are not only on the blanket, diaper bag, and baby (because we all know that germs cannot permeate cotton), but now they are on your hands as well. and you are carrying your child. and then you are going to have a nice meal! Bon Appetite!
Yummy.. I love me some germs..
The idea has a bad ick factor to it. Maybe since I cant keep my kids penis in his pants I should give him up for adoption and forget having a second since I cant be considerate to anyone but myself.. Children dont care how considerate you are.. they care about food, clothing, and clean bottoms. I wont risk my child getting some sort of flesh eating bacteria or intestinal damaging virus off of a bathroom floor because someone wanted me to be considerate to some but-head who cant give me 2 min to change a diaper.
Its not hard to deal with a dirty diaper. They are so easy to wrap and walk to the bathroom and toss.. no need to worry about my child's health, just your ego.
Oh for the love of Christ. Yes, my argument is ALL about a baby's penis. Yup, that's what I'm objecting to. My delicate eyes can't see a peen. And any exposure of a baby d*ck in a restaurant should absolutey warrant a visit from Child Protective Services. I'll be the first to call.
That's sarcasm by the way. I feel I need to say so because I'm sure it is lost on you.
And you're right. Your child will absolutey get a deadly, flesh eating virus if you change him on a blanket on a bathroom floor. That is, unless he gets a nice manic high first:
Mine was sarcasm too, no, he probably wont get a flesh eating bacteria.. but, well.. lets see maybe hepatitis? I'm not a biologist, nor a er nurse (you might want to ask her) so I have no idea what exactly you would/could catch off a bathroom floor.. but OMG that is just gross.
You can put your child on whatever floor you like, but I know my kid poops between 8am and 10am and sharts at 12. Unless I have to work I'm not even out of the house before 1. DS got DH's sense of timing, hopefully he has my sense of being on time.
sharts at noon. LOVE it. you should make a show. or blog
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I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
ya so this started bc someone thinks its obscene to hange a baby in public which is retarded, equally retarded is putting my baby on a bathroom floor or running my car for fifteen minutes tochange a diaper when its 115 fracking degrees. equally stupid is acting like a haughty biatch just because you figured out how to change a baby on a floor. good for u if it works for u but i dont trust my local applebees to sanitize the floors all that often.
Mine was sarcasm too, no, he probably wont get a flesh eating bacteria.. but, well.. lets see maybe hepatitis? I'm not a biologist, nor a er nurse (you might want to ask her) so I have no idea what exactly you would/could catch off a bathroom floor.. but OMG that is just gross.
You can put your child on whatever floor you like, but I know my kid poops between 8am and 10am and sharts at 12. Unless I have to work I'm not even out of the house before 1. DS got DH's sense of timing, hopefully he has my sense of being on time.
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I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
ya so this started bc someone thinks its obscene to hange a baby in public which is retarded, equally retarded is putting my baby on a bathroom floor or running my car for fifteen minutes tochange a diaper when its 115 fracking degrees. equally stupid is acting like a haughty biatch just because you figured out how to change a baby on a floor. good for u if it works for u but i dont trust my local applebees to sanitize the floors all that often.
Did you seriously just use the word retarded? Twice? THAT is not okay.
I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
ya so this started bc someone thinks its obscene to hange a baby in public which is retarded, equally retarded is putting my baby on a bathroom floor or running my car for fifteen minutes tochange a diaper when its 115 fracking degrees. equally stupid is acting like a haughty biatch just because you figured out how to change a baby on a floor. good for u if it works for u but i dont trust my local applebees to sanitize the floors all that often.
Did you seriously just use the word retarded? Twice? THAT is not okay.
I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
ya so this started bc someone thinks its obscene to hange a baby in public which is retarded, equally retarded is putting my baby on a bathroom floor or running my car for fifteen minutes tochange a diaper when its 115 fracking degrees. equally stupid is acting like a haughty biatch just because you figured out how to change a baby on a floor. good for u if it works for u but i dont trust my local applebees to sanitize the floors all that often.
Did you seriously just use the word retarded? Twice? THAT is not okay.
I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
ya so this started bc someone thinks its obscene to hange a baby in public which is retarded, equally retarded is putting my baby on a bathroom floor or running my car for fifteen minutes tochange a diaper when its 115 fracking degrees. equally stupid is acting like a haughty biatch just because you figured out how to change a baby on a floor. good for u if it works for u but i dont trust my local applebees to sanitize the floors all that often.
No, I do not think it obscene to change a baby in public. I think it disgusting to change a feces filled diaper at the table in a restaurant. There is a difference. If not wanting sh*t at the table next to me when I am dining, and being considerate that others do not as well, makes me a "haughty biatch" then guilty as charged.
As for using the word "retarded" others have pointed out how insensitive that is.
WOW!! Great FFFC Ladies....I never said changing you're child in public is obscene or disgusting, I said I do not like it and that's okay. I would not change my baby on a bathroom floor or even the changing table in the restrooms because they are equally disgusting imo. I am also aware that women are sex offenders, my reasoning behind Men working in DC's is not because I believe they are sex offenders but because I do not think any other Male besides her Daddy should be changing my LO. We all have our opinions, and can do whatever we think is best for our LO's. Changing you're baby in public does not make you a horrible Mother, I just perfer privacy when doing so. My DD poops like clockwork in the AM, so if we go to a resturant I change her right before we leave home, that way she is fine while we are there. If she ever did have a bm I would simply take her to the car. It's alright for us to disagree and have our own opinions on things. geesh!
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1- DH was home all day with DS (random middle of the week day off) and the only thing he accomplished was running the dishwasher and putting away his clothes that have been on the couch for a month (he does his own laundry) and he had to get his SIL to watch DS to get the clothes put away. He said DS was crying every time he put him down. I got home, played with DS for a little while then layed him on his blanket with his toys and made dinner. No fussing from DS. It was totally a fluke that he didn't cry but I let DH think I was a miracle worker and knew what I was doing.
DH tried to pull that on me the first month or two I went back to work, only I KNOW that DS was not fussing and took 4 45-minute naps while I was going. So we had a little talk and now when I come home the dishes are done (by hand), floor is swept, and cloth diapers washed. Every now and then he surprises me with an extra chore
I'm so curious, how did you know? Did you nanny cam your DH?
WOW!! Great FFFC Ladies....I never said changing you're child in public is obscene or disgusting, I said I do not like it and that's okay. I would not change my baby on a bathroom floor or even the changing table in the restrooms because they are equally disgusting imo. I am also aware that women are sex offenders, my reasoning behind Men working in DC's is not because I believe they are sex offenders but because I do not think any other Male besides her Daddy should be changing my LO. We all have our opinions, and can do whatever we think is best for our LO's. Changing you're baby in public does not make you a horrible Mother, I just perfer privacy when doing so. My DD poops like clockwork in the AM, so if we go to a resturant I change her right before we leave home, that way she is fine while we are there. If she ever did have a bm I would simply take her to the car. It's alright for us to disagree and have our own opinions on things. geesh!
I still don't follow If you know that the adult male who cares for children as his profession is not a danger to your child, then why is it not ok for him to care for your child by changing her diaper?
WOW!! Great FFFC Ladies....I never said changing you're child in public is obscene or disgusting, I said I do not like it and that's okay. I would not change my baby on a bathroom floor or even the changing table in the restrooms because they are equally disgusting imo. I am also aware that women are sex offenders, my reasoning behind Men working in DC's is not because I believe they are sex offenders but because I do not think any other Male besides her Daddy should be changing my LO. We all have our opinions, and can do whatever we think is best for our LO's. Changing you're baby in public does not make you a horrible Mother, I just perfer privacy when doing so. My DD poops like clockwork in the AM, so if we go to a resturant I change her right before we leave home, that way she is fine while we are there. If she ever did have a bm I would simply take her to the car. It's alright for us to disagree and have our own opinions on things. geesh!
I still don't follow If you know that the adult male who cares for children as his profession is not a danger to your child, then why is it not ok for him to care for your child by changing her diaper?
I do not think a Man should change a little girls diaper or take little girls to the bathroom unless it's her Daddy. That's simply my opinion, and how I was raised. We were always taught that way and honestly I do not see the problem with it. I also would not allow DD to sit on Men's laps *gasp*
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I'm going to throw my 2 cents into this conversation.
Do I change my LO at the table always? no. If he needs a diaper change, do I go looking for a changing table? yes. If I can't find one (or the counter is insufficient), do I change him at the table? yes. If we're about to leave anyway, I change him in the car before we leave, but if we're still waiting for our food or are not leaving anytime soon, I will do what I need to do. Do I LIKE changing DS at the table? Heck no! I don't do it to feel entitled, I do it because I don't have a choice. I live in NC, so I will not subject my child to the hot weather just to change a diaper. Like PP said, if the establishment has a problem with me attending to my child's dirty diaper in the dining room, they need to provide a space where I can safely change my child.
I used to work in a restaurant, so I flat out refuse to change my baby on the floor, blanket or no. I know that floor only gets cleaned once a day (if even) with dirty mop water that has likely been used in other parts of the restaurant first that may or may not even contain soap. I worked in a nicer restaurant too where one of my duties was to clean the bathroom every night, so I'm talking on the high end of things. We didn't do a deep cleaning at all. You definately don't want to put your purse down in a restaurant restroom, let alone your baby!
I'm going to throw my 2 cents into this conversation.
Do I change my LO at the table always? no. If he needs a diaper change, do I go looking for a changing table? yes. If I can't find one (or the counter is insufficient), do I change him at the table? yes. If we're about to leave anyway, I change him in the car before we leave, but if we're still waiting for our food or are not leaving anytime soon, I will do what I need to do. Do I LIKE changing DS at the table? Heck no! I don't do it to feel entitled, I do it because I don't have a choice. I live in NC, so I will not subject my child to the hot weather just to change a diaper. Like PP said, if the establishment has a problem with me attending to my child's dirty diaper in the dining room, they need to provide a space where I can safely change my child.
I used to work in a restaurant, so I flat out refuse to change my baby on the floor, blanket or no. I know that floor only gets cleaned once a day (if even) with dirty mop water that has likely been used in other parts of the restaurant first that may or may not even contain soap. I worked in a nicer restaurant too where one of my duties was to clean the bathroom every night, so I'm talking on the high end of things. We didn't do a deep cleaning at all. You definately don't want to put your purse down in a restaurant restroom, let alone your baby!
I agree. You have to do whatever you are comfortable with for you're LO:)
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Also, while I can understand the reasoning behind not wanting another male changing a girl baby, I consider it a different situation if it's a male daycare worker. By taking my child to a daycare, I need to trust that all the workers, even those who aren't my child's direct teachers, were hired because they are compitent adults who are there to ensure my child's well being. I need to trust anyone I employ to watch my child. If that means they have a male at a daycare I trust, that trust extends to that male worker as well. It is up to your preferences, and as the mother you have the right to choose who watches your child. But for me gender isn't an issue. I would feel the same way if my child was a girl. Not just anyone can watch my LO, but gender alone won't deter me.
1- DH was home all day with DS (random middle of the week day off) and the only thing he accomplished was running the dishwasher and putting away his clothes that have been on the couch for a month (he does his own laundry) and he had to get his SIL to watch DS to get the clothes put away. He said DS was crying every time he put him down. I got home, played with DS for a little while then layed him on his blanket with his toys and made dinner. No fussing from DS. It was totally a fluke that he didn't cry but I let DH think I was a miracle worker and knew what I was doing.
DH tried to pull that on me the first month or two I went back to work, only I KNOW that DS was not fussing and took 4 45-minute naps while I was going. So we had a little talk and now when I come home the dishes are done (by hand), floor is swept, and cloth diapers washed. Every now and then he surprises me with an extra chore
I'm so curious, how did you know? Did you nanny cam your DH?
Because I squeezed it out of DH I love him, but sometimes he's not so bright. He was giving me lots of excuses, but they weren't piecing together right. Plus DS is a surprisingly amazing baby. He's very self-scheduled and pretty much never fussy. When he's tired he just babbles louder, and he does absolutely nothing to indicate he's hungry. It's weird. So I knew he likely wouldn't have given DH trouble, and if he had he would've been fussy when I came home too. So I cornered DH and he pretty much admitted he had been lazy haha.
I so badly want to share my thoughts, but in the spirit of flame free I will not Take this to a flame-free-free regular post so I can dish it out! Pretty please?
P.S. Why can I not insert smileys? All I ever get is a blank box that pops up when I click on the "insert smiley."
I do not think a Man should change a little girls diaper or take little girls to the bathroom unless it's her Daddy. That's simply my opinion, and how I was raised. We were always taught that way and honestly I do not see the problem with it. I also would not allow DD to sit on Men's laps *gasp*
This is ridiculous. "How I was raised" is not a be-all-end-all excuse for gender discrimination. Would you want your daughter to hear that she can't be an engineer because she's intellectually inferior? Implying that all men who would want to work in a day care center are perverts amounts to the same thing.
Will your daughter only have female doctors?
Yes she will, until she is old enough to make her own decisions I will make them for her. The same way you will do with you're LO. I have the right to have my own opinion and disagree with whatever I choose to. It's simple. Call it what you want it still won't change my mind.
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I so badly want to share my thoughts, but in the spirit of flame free I will not Take this to a flame-free-free regular post so I can dish it out! Pretty please?
P.S. Why can I not insert smileys? All I ever get is a blank box that pops up when I click on the "insert smiley."
I so badly want to share my thoughts, but in the spirit of flame free I will not Take this to a flame-free-free regular post so I can dish it out! Pretty please?
P.S. Why can I not insert smileys? All I ever get is a blank box that pops up when I click on the "insert smiley."
To me, the idea of not wanting your child in a daycare center if there are men who work there is so preposterous is hardly warrants a response (and yet, I responded...)
As to changing your child's diaper in public, have at it if you're in a mall, a park, a store, etc. However, if you are in a restaurant, yes, you should find somewhere other than the dining area to change your baby. Sh*t, no matter how cute of an a$$ it came out of, is still sh*t; and having it in the vicinity of a dining area is a health hazard.
Agree... It's not about changing in public to me, but changing diapers at the table where you eat, even if it's in the seat ... Super gross! Having a child does come with inconveniences.
If you must change the child the second he/she goes and there's no appropriate place and you don't want to go to the car then stay home! You chose to go out in public with an infant. Sure it's nice to have child-friendly conveniences, but they're not owed to you. Everyone else paying for their meal shouldn't have to eat around you changing your kid's crappy diaper. Nasty!
I do not think a Man should change a little girls diaper or take little girls to the bathroom unless it's her Daddy. That's simply my opinion, and how I was raised. We were always taught that way and honestly I do not see the problem with it. I also would not allow DD to sit on Men's laps *gasp*
So your daughter won't be allowed to sit on the laps of her Grandpa(s), uncles or other male family members? What about Santa? Or a character at a theme park? Really? I find this to be absolutely ridiculous. It may be "the way you were raised" but in the real world you're comming across as being incredibly paranoid about men.
And please learn the difference between "you're" and "your".
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I know I'm coming late to this, and it's Saturday, and it's FFFC, but ...
#1 I find it quite ironic that some people have issues with the bathrooms at restaurants being too dirty and germy to change babies' diapers, but changing diapers where they and others eat their meals, well that's a swell idea!
#2 You're in a restaurant and don't want to walk all the way to the car, it's too hot out, it's too germy on the changing table that's provided, etc. Let's just instill from an early age the idea of doing what makes you happy in the moment even if it's without consideration of others...because that's always a great lesson.
#3The whole "way I was raised" attitude is ridiculous. If that's a blanket way to spread dumb ideas and not have to take any of the responsibility for them. Let's just continue to spread ignorance, narrow-minded ideas, stereotypes, etc. because "they're not my ideas, someone else gave them to me." I'm all for passing on morals and ethics to our children from past generations, but be willing to stand behind your opinions and only teach them if you strongly believe in their importance yourself... not because "it's how I was raised."
Had to get that all out, I'll get off my soapbox now.
To me, the idea of not wanting your child in a daycare center if there are men who work there is so preposterous is hardly warrants a response (and yet, I responded...)
As to changing your child's diaper in public, have at it if you're in a mall, a park, a store, etc. However, if you are in a restaurant, yes, you should find somewhere other than the dining area to change your baby. Sh*t, no matter how cute of an a$$ it came out of, is still sh*t; and having it in the vicinity of a dining area is a health hazard.
Agree... It's not about changing in public to me, but changing diapers at the table where you eat, even if it's in the seat ... Super gross! Having a child does come with inconveniences.
If you must change the child the second he/she goes and there's no appropriate place and you don't want to go to the car then stay home! You chose to go out in public with an infant. Sure it's nice to have child-friendly conveniences, but they're not owed to you. Everyone else paying for their meal shouldn't have to eat around you changing your kid's crappy diaper. Nasty!
your solution to changing a dirty diaper is to stay home? so, we are expected to stay in our house until our children are potty trained?
you probably are under the impression that women who are menstruating should not be out in public because they are filthy, disgusting pigs.
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WOW!! Great FFFC Ladies....I never said changing you're child in public is obscene or disgusting, I said I do not like it and that's okay. I would not change my baby on a bathroom floor or even the changing table in the restrooms because they are equally disgusting imo. I am also aware that women are sex offenders, my reasoning behind Men working in DC's is not because I believe they are sex offenders but because I do not think any other Male besides her Daddy should be changing my LO. We all have our opinions, and can do whatever we think is best for our LO's. Changing you're baby in public does not make you a horrible Mother, I just perfer privacy when doing so. My DD poops like clockwork in the AM, so if we go to a resturant I change her right before we leave home, that way she is fine while we are there. If she ever did have a bm I would simply take her to the car. It's alright for us to disagree and have our own opinions on things. geesh!
I still don't follow If you know that the adult male who cares for children as his profession is not a danger to your child, then why is it not ok for him to care for your child by changing her diaper?
I do not think a Man should change a little girls diaper or take little girls to the bathroom unless it's her Daddy. That's simply my opinion, and how I was raised. We were always taught that way and honestly I do not see the problem with it. I also would not allow DD to sit on Men's laps *gasp*
Does this extend to family? So if you go take LO to your dad's house, your mom has to change your LO? I just don't see that conversation going well for me... Same with my brothers (her uncles FFS, that have three kids- two girls!- between them).
I usually try to give the benefit of the doubt but I am truly stuck on this.
To me, the idea of not wanting your child in a daycare center if there are men who work there is so preposterous is hardly warrants a response (and yet, I responded...)
As to changing your child's diaper in public, have at it if you're in a mall, a park, a store, etc. However, if you are in a restaurant, yes, you should find somewhere other than the dining area to change your baby. Sh*t, no matter how cute of an a$$ it came out of, is still sh*t; and having it in the vicinity of a dining area is a health hazard.
Agree... It's not about changing in public to me, but changing diapers at the table where you eat, even if it's in the seat ... Super gross! Having a child does come with inconveniences.
If you must change the child the second he/she goes and there's no appropriate place and you don't want to go to the car then stay home! You chose to go out in public with an infant. Sure it's nice to have child-friendly conveniences, but they're not owed to you. Everyone else paying for their meal shouldn't have to eat around you changing your kid's crappy diaper. Nasty!
your solution to changing a dirty diaper is to stay home? so, we are expected to stay in our house until our children are potty trained?
you probably are under the impression that women who are menstruating should not be out in public because they are filthy, disgusting pigs.
Not at all. So many people sounded like they had every right to change their kids' diapers at restaurant tables because appropriate conditions weren't available. They also didn't want the inconvenience if going to the car. They made it seem like that justified them spreading germs at the dinner table. I was merely suggesting that if they're so inflexible, then maybe staying at home would be a better option because, while it would be nice, not every business is there to cater to families. Make a suggestion to a manager, go to a different restaurant, don't punish everyone else by turning the dinner table into a changing table. Is that more clear?
I also don't understand your leap in comparing that to menstruating women, but since you mentioned it, I'd prefer not to have feminine products changed in the dining room either. Thanks for checking!
To me, the idea of not wanting your child in a daycare center if there are men who work there is so preposterous is hardly warrants a response (and yet, I responded...)
As to changing your child's diaper in public, have at it if you're in a mall, a park, a store, etc. However, if you are in a restaurant, yes, you should find somewhere other than the dining area to change your baby. Sh*t, no matter how cute of an a$$ it came out of, is still sh*t; and having it in the vicinity of a dining area is a health hazard.
Agree... It's not about changing in public to me, but changing diapers at the table where you eat, even if it's in the seat ... Super gross! Having a child does come with inconveniences.
If you must change the child the second he/she goes and there's no appropriate place and you don't want to go to the car then stay home! You chose to go out in public with an infant. Sure it's nice to have child-friendly conveniences, but they're not owed to you. Everyone else paying for their meal shouldn't have to eat around you changing your kid's crappy diaper. Nasty!
your solution to changing a dirty diaper is to stay home? so, we are expected to stay in our house until our children are potty trained?
you probably are under the impression that women who are menstruating should not be out in public because they are filthy, disgusting pigs.
Not at all. So many people sounded like they had every right to change their kids' diapers at restaurant tables because appropriate conditions weren't available. They also didn't want the inconvenience if going to the car. They made it seem like that justified them spreading germs at the dinner table. I was merely suggesting that if they're so inflexible, then maybe staying at home would be a better option because, while it would be nice, not every business is there to cater to families. Make a suggestion to a manager, go to a different restaurant, don't punish everyone else by turning the dinner table into a changing table. Is that more clear?
I also don't understand your leap in comparing that to menstruating women, but since you mentioned it, I'd prefer not to have feminine products changed in the dining room either. Thanks for checking!
i did not even finish reading cause i was pissed at this! it is not an inconvience it is a safety issue. next time you are in the valley of the sun when it is 111 outside, like today. and the interior of your car is 150+, you go ahead and lay your little one down on that car seat and change that diaper. go for it. but plan for your child to yell like hell when s/he get burned! im sorry that we all can not be like you! i am always considerate of my party... and as i stated i will ask those around me.. and never once has anyone made a comment to me. ever! they say do what you got to do. i understand. ive been there. im considerate and i dont wave my naked baby for the world to see. i do a quick change. and yes when you are out somewhere alone it is a b*tch to pick everything up and go to a car for a change... just saying. you do what you want. and i will gladly take eye rolls. and i will continue to give feedback to every establishment i go to that does not have a changing table!
Not trying to be a jerk at all, but isn't that car how you got your kid to and from the restaurant? I get that it's super hot, but even if the people at your table don't mind, can't you see how others who will eat at that table after you or those near your table would mind? Not a naked baby issue, like I said, but a fecal matter/contamination issue. Or like I said change your LO when you get home. Heck, change your LO in the foyer/waiting area, but no one will convince me it's not a hygiene issue to change diapers at the table. Sorry. (and I could be wrong, but I think someone said they didn't want to walk all the way back out to the car when they were out, and that's the comment I was referring to with the "inconvenience" comment)
I love these boards! Seriously! I always thought (even since I've had DD) that changing her diaper in a restuarant (or near food) was pretty gross. However, if my options are hot car or floor in bathroom or whatever, I will do it at the table and that's OK! I am not going to lie and say I wouldn't feel a little uncomfortable (can't help it) but it's totally OK and the best thing for my baby. It's not like I'm holding up the dirty diaper and saying, "Look at this"! I also would probably let her go for a while unless she was fussing a lot about it. It's not like we're going to be at the place for hours anyway.
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Not trying to be a jerk at all, but isn't that car how you got your kid to and from the restaurant? I get that it's super hot, but even if the people at your table don't mind, can't you see how others who will eat at that table after you or those near your table would mind? Not a naked baby issue, like I said, but a fecal matter/contamination issue. Or like I said change your LO when you get home. Heck, change your LO in the foyer/waiting area, but no one will convince me it's not a hygiene issue to change diapers at the table. Sorry. (and I could be wrong, but I think someone said they didn't want to walk all the way back out to the car when they were out, and that's the comment I was referring to with the "inconvenience" comment)
First of all, that car was air conditioned on the way to the restaurant. 15 minutes out in the hot sun is enough to get it nice and toasty. Unless you need a diaper change 5 minutes into the restaurant visit, the car just isn't viable for those of us down south, even with cloth seats.
Second, those of us who have changed at the table probably didn't change ON the table. I changed DS on the booth seat next to me. Aside from it being a pain to move everything off the table to change the baby, I agree it's gross to change him where we eat. At least for me, the diaper never touches the table. Also, I don't do it because I feel entitled. I do it when my other options are unsanitary for the baby (bathroom floor) or impractical (hot car).
Third, the foyer of the restaurant gets cleaned a lot less often than the table area. A lot of restaurants wipe off the seats when they clear a table. The seats of the foyer get cleaned maybe once a day if ever. And don't even get me started on the floors. Proposing I change my baby in the foyer is almost as gross as suggestion I use the bathroom floor.
I'm sure someone will still figure out a way to flame this, but if I have to change DS in public, whether it be on the changing table or the bathroom floor (which I never have had to yet, but would probably do so in a restaurant setting if needed), I always have puppy pads in my diaper bag and lay one down before I change him. I change DS and then just toss the puppy pad away. Just another idea to throw out there.
Not trying to be a jerk at all, but isn't that car how you got your kid to and from the restaurant? I get that it's super hot, but even if the people at your table don't mind, can't you see how others who will eat at that table after you or those near your table would mind? Not a naked baby issue, like I said, but a fecal matter/contamination issue. Or like I said change your LO when you get home. Heck, change your LO in the foyer/waiting area, but no one will convince me it's not a hygiene issue to change diapers at the table. Sorry. (and I could be wrong, but I think someone said they didn't want to walk all the way back out to the car when they were out, and that's the comment I was referring to with the "inconvenience" comment)
First of all, that car was air conditioned on the way to the restaurant. 15 minutes out in the hot sun is enough to get it nice and toasty. Unless you need a diaper change 5 minutes into the restaurant visit, the car just isn't viable for those of us down south, even with cloth seats.
Second, those of us who have changed at the table probably didn't change ON the table. I changed DS on the booth seat next to me. Aside from it being a pain to move everything off the table to change the baby, I agree it's gross to change him where we eat. At least for me, the diaper never touches the table. Also, I don't do it because I feel entitled. I do it when my other options are unsanitary for the baby (bathroom floor) or impractical (hot car).
Third, the foyer of the restaurant gets cleaned a lot less often than the table area. A lot of restaurants wipe off the seats when they clear a table. The seats of the foyer get cleaned maybe once a day if ever. And don't even get me started on the floors. Proposing I change my baby in the foyer is almost as gross as suggestion I use the bathroom floor.
But no one eats there. Sorry. For the less than 5 minutes to change a diaper using a changing pad is fine. If you're that scared of germs in the foyer how do you take your kid anywhere?
My point is that it rarely gets cleaned, less so than the seat at the table. In my experience working in a restaurant, we NEVER cleaned those benches. DS is in the rolling stage, so I feel more comfortable putting him on the booth seat I know gets wiped down several times a day than on a bench that may or may not have ever been cleaned.
Let me reitterate that I use the changing table whenever I can. I completely agree that changing a diaper at the eating table shouldn't be a first resort, but for me it's an option if I have no other choice. DS has only had to be changed in a seat at the table once. Noone minded, and I made sure the diaper did not touch the table at all and that noone in my party was going to be sitting there. No big deal.
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I don't understand where the topic of poopy diapers came into play--I don't think the OP specified that there was feces involved. as I said before, is this the only time you change your kid's diaper, after a BM?
I don't think I would change a poop filled diaper at the table (but I just might)...but I have changed a urine soaked diaper several times at the table (not on).
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Did you seriously just use the word retarded? Twice? THAT is not okay.
Yup.
She also called me a biatch. Nice, huh?
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No, I do not think it obscene to change a baby in public. I think it disgusting to change a feces filled diaper at the table in a restaurant. There is a difference. If not wanting sh*t at the table next to me when I am dining, and being considerate that others do not as well, makes me a "haughty biatch" then guilty as charged.
As for using the word "retarded" others have pointed out how insensitive that is.
I know I'm super late to this party, but one - retarded should not be an insult, some of the greatest people I know are intellectually disabled
two- i'm going to change my children whenever they need to be changed in the manner that I see fit as a parent for that situation
three- women are sex offenders and abusers too- you are putting your children at risk by being so sexist and naive
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I'm so curious, how did you know? Did you nanny cam your DH?
I still don't follow If you know that the adult male who cares for children as his profession is not a danger to your child, then why is it not ok for him to care for your child by changing her diaper?
I do not think a Man should change a little girls diaper or take little girls to the bathroom unless it's her Daddy. That's simply my opinion, and how I was raised. We were always taught that way and honestly I do not see the problem with it. I also would not allow DD to sit on Men's laps *gasp*
I'm going to throw my 2 cents into this conversation.
Do I change my LO at the table always? no. If he needs a diaper change, do I go looking for a changing table? yes. If I can't find one (or the counter is insufficient), do I change him at the table? yes. If we're about to leave anyway, I change him in the car before we leave, but if we're still waiting for our food or are not leaving anytime soon, I will do what I need to do. Do I LIKE changing DS at the table? Heck no! I don't do it to feel entitled, I do it because I don't have a choice. I live in NC, so I will not subject my child to the hot weather just to change a diaper. Like PP said, if the establishment has a problem with me attending to my child's dirty diaper in the dining room, they need to provide a space where I can safely change my child.
I used to work in a restaurant, so I flat out refuse to change my baby on the floor, blanket or no. I know that floor only gets cleaned once a day (if even) with dirty mop water that has likely been used in other parts of the restaurant first that may or may not even contain soap. I worked in a nicer restaurant too where one of my duties was to clean the bathroom every night, so I'm talking on the high end of things. We didn't do a deep cleaning at all. You definately don't want to put your purse down in a restaurant restroom, let alone your baby!
I agree. You have to do whatever you are comfortable with for you're LO:)
Also, while I can understand the reasoning behind not wanting another male changing a girl baby, I consider it a different situation if it's a male daycare worker. By taking my child to a daycare, I need to trust that all the workers, even those who aren't my child's direct teachers, were hired because they are compitent adults who are there to ensure my child's well being. I need to trust anyone I employ to watch my child. If that means they have a male at a daycare I trust, that trust extends to that male worker as well. It is up to your preferences, and as the mother you have the right to choose who watches your child. But for me gender isn't an issue. I would feel the same way if my child was a girl. Not just anyone can watch my LO, but gender alone won't deter me.
I shouldn't have used the R word and for that I'm sorry it was a gross error in judgment
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Because I squeezed it out of DH
I love him, but sometimes he's not so bright. He was giving me lots of excuses, but they weren't piecing together right. Plus DS is a surprisingly amazing baby. He's very self-scheduled and pretty much never fussy. When he's tired he just babbles louder, and he does absolutely nothing to indicate he's hungry. It's weird. So I knew he likely wouldn't have given DH trouble, and if he had he would've been fussy when I came home too. So I cornered DH and he pretty much admitted he had been lazy haha.
I so badly want to share my thoughts, but in the spirit of flame free I will not
Take this to a flame-free-free regular post so I can dish it out! Pretty please?
P.S. Why can I not insert smileys? All I ever get is a blank box that pops up when I click on the "insert smiley."
Yes she will, until she is old enough to make her own decisions I will make them for her. The same way you will do with you're LO. I have the right to have my own opinion and disagree with whatever I choose to. It's simple. Call it what you want it still won't change my mind.
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Agree... It's not about changing in public to me, but changing diapers at the table where you eat, even if it's in the seat ... Super gross! Having a child does come with inconveniences.
If you must change the child the second he/she goes and there's no appropriate place and you don't want to go to the car then stay home! You chose to go out in public with an infant. Sure it's nice to have child-friendly conveniences, but they're not owed to you. Everyone else paying for their meal shouldn't have to eat around you changing your kid's crappy diaper. Nasty!
So your daughter won't be allowed to sit on the laps of her Grandpa(s), uncles or other male family members? What about Santa? Or a character at a theme park? Really? I find this to be absolutely ridiculous. It may be "the way you were raised" but in the real world you're comming across as being incredibly paranoid about men.
And please learn the difference between "you're" and "your".
I know I'm coming late to this, and it's Saturday, and it's FFFC, but ...
#1 I find it quite ironic that some people have issues with the bathrooms at restaurants being too dirty and germy to change babies' diapers, but changing diapers where they and others eat their meals, well that's a swell idea!
#2 You're in a restaurant and don't want to walk all the way to the car, it's too hot out, it's too germy on the changing table that's provided, etc. Let's just instill from an early age the idea of doing what makes you happy in the moment even if it's without consideration of others...because that's always a great lesson.
#3 The whole "way I was raised" attitude is ridiculous. If that's a blanket way to spread dumb ideas and not have to take any of the responsibility for them. Let's just continue to spread ignorance, narrow-minded ideas, stereotypes, etc. because "they're not my ideas, someone else gave them to me." I'm all for passing on morals and ethics to our children from past generations, but be willing to stand behind your opinions and only teach them if you strongly believe in their importance yourself... not because "it's how I was raised."
Had to get that all out, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Don't be too hard on her, and entire culture agrees and even suggests a solution
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Well done, ma'am. Well. Done.
your solution to changing a dirty diaper is to stay home? so, we are expected to stay in our house until our children are potty trained?
you probably are under the impression that women who are menstruating should not be out in public because they are filthy, disgusting pigs.
Does this extend to family? So if you go take LO to your dad's house, your mom has to change your LO? I just don't see that conversation going well for me... Same with my brothers (her uncles FFS, that have three kids- two girls!- between them).
I usually try to give the benefit of the doubt but I am truly stuck on this.
Not at all. So many people sounded like they had every right to change their kids' diapers at restaurant tables because appropriate conditions weren't available. They also didn't want the inconvenience if going to the car. They made it seem like that justified them spreading germs at the dinner table. I was merely suggesting that if they're so inflexible, then maybe staying at home would be a better option because, while it would be nice, not every business is there to cater to families. Make a suggestion to a manager, go to a different restaurant, don't punish everyone else by turning the dinner table into a changing table. Is that more clear?
I also don't understand your leap in comparing that to menstruating women, but since you mentioned it, I'd prefer not to have feminine products changed in the dining room either. Thanks for checking!
Not trying to be a jerk at all, but isn't that car how you got your kid to and from the restaurant? I get that it's super hot, but even if the people at your table don't mind, can't you see how others who will eat at that table after you or those near your table would mind? Not a naked baby issue, like I said, but a fecal matter/contamination issue. Or like I said change your LO when you get home. Heck, change your LO in the foyer/waiting area, but no one will convince me it's not a hygiene issue to change diapers at the table. Sorry. (and I could be wrong, but I think someone said they didn't want to walk all the way back out to the car when they were out, and that's the comment I was referring to with the "inconvenience" comment)
I love these boards! Seriously! I always thought (even since I've had DD) that changing her diaper in a restuarant (or near food) was pretty gross. However, if my options are hot car or floor in bathroom or whatever, I will do it at the table and that's OK! I am not going to lie and say I wouldn't feel a little uncomfortable (can't help it) but it's totally OK and the best thing for my baby. It's not like I'm holding up the dirty diaper and saying, "Look at this"! I also would probably let her go for a while unless she was fussing a lot about it. It's not like we're going to be at the place for hours anyway.
I like these posts because they get me thinking. I like that you all have different opinions.
My FFFC is: I am miserable about my body right now. It's the worst it's ever looked. I want to lose weight so bad but my STUPID F'ING sweet tooth is like a monster. I need to do something drastic. I just want to eat candy all day. Horrible. Sexy wife FAIL.
First of all, that car was air conditioned on the way to the restaurant. 15 minutes out in the hot sun is enough to get it nice and toasty. Unless you need a diaper change 5 minutes into the restaurant visit, the car just isn't viable for those of us down south, even with cloth seats.
Second, those of us who have changed at the table probably didn't change ON the table. I changed DS on the booth seat next to me. Aside from it being a pain to move everything off the table to change the baby, I agree it's gross to change him where we eat. At least for me, the diaper never touches the table. Also, I don't do it because I feel entitled. I do it when my other options are unsanitary for the baby (bathroom floor) or impractical (hot car).
Third, the foyer of the restaurant gets cleaned a lot less often than the table area. A lot of restaurants wipe off the seats when they clear a table. The seats of the foyer get cleaned maybe once a day if ever. And don't even get me started on the floors. Proposing I change my baby in the foyer is almost as gross as suggestion I use the bathroom floor.
But no one eats there. Sorry. For the less than 5 minutes to change a diaper using a changing pad is fine. If you're that scared of germs in the foyer how do you take your kid anywhere?
I'm so over this discussion.
My point is that it rarely gets cleaned, less so than the seat at the table. In my experience working in a restaurant, we NEVER cleaned those benches. DS is in the rolling stage, so I feel more comfortable putting him on the booth seat I know gets wiped down several times a day than on a bench that may or may not have ever been cleaned.
Let me reitterate that I use the changing table whenever I can. I completely agree that changing a diaper at the eating table shouldn't be a first resort, but for me it's an option if I have no other choice. DS has only had to be changed in a seat at the table once. Noone minded, and I made sure the diaper did not touch the table at all and that noone in my party was going to be sitting there. No big deal.