UO Thursday

nekorayne · June 2012

Lets get it started!

nekorayne · June 2012

I kind of feel that a lot of people put "things" in front of happiness and that as a society we havea very skewed vision of what we need to live a fulfilled and happy life. Sometimes I'm shocked at what people fill they "need" and I think that "things" are considered happiness for so many.

I hear so many people say they would love to do something but can't because they would have to give up something like the biggest cable package, a fancy phone, or other "things" that are so big right now. Maybe they complain that they want a dream job but don't take the offer because they have to take a tiny pay cut and they go buy a brand new car that is really expensive, not because their car is in bad condition...just because they want it.

That is fine if that is what makes you happy but if you are obviously not happy why do you continue to put "things" before your REAL happiness. I see that so much lately...people even say that giving their kids things is more important then the time they spend and claim it is because their kids "deserve the best" when their kids REALLY deserve the time and memories.

Notwifezilla7 · June 2012

scatteredtrees:
I don't get the appeal of the 50 Shades books.

Me either. After reading some reviews, I heard the writing is atrocious. if I wanted some light porn, I'd turn on Skin-a-max.

Mrs.Hizzo · June 2012

amy052006:
Nekorayne -- I definitely agree in some circumstances. We see it with a couple we know right now. Lots of complaining and misery about the current situation, but also this odd resignation that "this is how it has to be to give the kids the best". Eh, not really.
But on the flip side, I also see people who are sort of sanctimonious about it all, with this "well it doesn't matter because the kids are happy" attitude. Sure, the kids can be happy without cable or ipads. But the kids aren't going to cherish the memories when mom and dad have to move in when they are 65 because they sacrificed saving for retirement.
In conclusion, I judge both sides!

I just want to say that we got new carpet in the entire house this week, and it makes me very, very happy. Dare I say, giddy? I do. I dare.

JessesGirl&MackenziesMom · June 2012

scatteredtrees:
I don't get the appeal of the 50 Shades books.

I really thought I wanted to read it, until I heard some passages read outloud for a phone prank on the radio. I was by myself and felt uncomfortable.

lisamoe · June 2012

This is the first cycle I have been charting. I'm already sick of it. I know I have to do it, to learn my cycle, but it gets on my nerves.

Its bad enough getting AF and being disappointed, now I can be disappointed looking at my chart temps taking a nosedive days before AF. Yipppeeee!

lisamoe · June 2012

cjcouple:

I'm sorry Lisamoe

Sending good like vibes your way

Thank you :-)

I need all the positive vibes I can get. Its been a tough day.

lisamoe · June 2012

amy052006:
lisamoe:

This is the first cycle I have been charting. I'm already sick of it. I know I have to do it, to learn my cycle, but it gets on my nerves.

Its bad enough getting AF and being disappointed, now I can be disappointed looking at my chart temps taking a nosedive days before AF. Yipppeeee!

Ugh. If it is any help, I reached a point where once I saw that dip, I knew my cycle well enough that it usually meant I could stop charting until four or five days after my period ended and still would get an accurate chart. Sometimes just that break would recharge me.

I wish I knew my cycle that well. Unfortunately I don't yet...I don't think. Couple more months of charting should help. I figure I should stick with it, even though I'm really discouraged.

sophie206 · June 2012

Hav=Fath:
I don't really love going on vacation. I love my boring life at home... I appreciate being able to go, enjoy it while I'm there, but always look forward to going home... and like this week, talking my H into going home a day early.

Me too. And it took me quite a while to realize it!

sophie206 · June 2012

lisamoe:
This is the first cycle I have been charting. I'm already sick of it. I know I have to do it, to learn my cycle, but it gets on my nerves.

Its bad enough getting AF and being disappointed, now I can be disappointed looking at my chart temps taking a nosedive days before AF. Yipppeeee!

Same thing with me this cycle. Temp majorly dropped today at 13DPO so I just added tampons to my shopping list. Agh

toadstool · June 2012

amy052006:
cjcouple:

I get what pp are saying but I also think it is naive to think just because people give their kids stuff they are not giving them the quality time/love

I was spoiled as a kid, big lavish christmas and birthdays. Because my sister and I were born within 6 days of Christmas we also would get bonus gifts for summer toys etc

But we also had lots of love and family times. My BFF oldest memory is coming to my house and have spaghettis o and choc milk by candlelight. She thought it was awesome.

I do a lot with my boys, play hide n seek in the house/outside, games, park, and movie nights. But I also give them lots of stuff. I would hate to think I was being condemned for that.

Totally agree. And I think that annoys me a little about the whole attitude -- sure, my kid may not need X, Y, Z. But honestly, it is fun to do and give him stuff. Sometimes those "my kid doesn't stuff, they just need me" comes with the nice side of jealousy.

I think that you are right about the jealousy, sometimes. I think the main point wouldn't really apply to most, dare I say any of the moms on this board. My stance is, if you wanna give your kid the world, that is wonderful (plus, who truely doesn't want to do that?) If you can do it and spend time with them, that is ideal. I do know some families who are away from their children 12+ hours a day and say that they need to work this much to provide for their needs. Seeing their standard of living, I would say that their definition of "needs" is somewhat skewed. They also don't seem like very happy people. Ultimately, how each person lives is their choice, but that life is not for me. I will do without whatever materialistic item, if it means I can spend more time with my family. If I can spend time with my family and have the materialistic stuff too, that is even better as long as my family is a priority.

nekorayne · June 2012

amy052006:
Nekorayne -- I definitely agree in some circumstances. We see it with a couple we know right now. Lots of complaining and misery about the current situation, but also this odd resignation that "this is how it has to be to give the kids the best". Eh, not really.
But on the flip side, I also see people who are sort of sanctimonious about it all, with this "well it doesn't matter because the kids are happy" attitude. Sure, the kids can be happy without cable or ipads. But the kids aren't going to cherish the memories when mom and dad have to move in when they are 65 because they sacrificed saving for retirement.
In conclusion, I judge both sides!

I am not talking about giving up paying bills and savings. I was actully going to mention that I think it is sucky to put "more stuff" before paying bills or going into debt because of it. I am more talking about a few pepole I know who hate the siuation they are in but stay in it because they want the best car and newest phone and have to"keep up the Jonsas" type of thing.

nekorayne · June 2012

toadstool:
amy052006:
cjcouple:

I get what pp are saying but I also think it is naive to think just because people give their kids stuff they are not giving them the quality time/love

I was spoiled as a kid, big lavish christmas and birthdays. Because my sister and I were born within 6 days of Christmas we also would get bonus gifts for summer toys etc

But we also had lots of love and family times. My BFF oldest memory is coming to my house and have spaghettis o and choc milk by candlelight. She thought it was awesome.

I do a lot with my boys, play hide n seek in the house/outside, games, park, and movie nights. But I also give them lots of stuff. I would hate to think I was being condemned for that.

Totally agree. And I think that annoys me a little about the whole attitude -- sure, my kid may not need X, Y, Z. But honestly, it is fun to do and give him stuff. Sometimes those "my kid doesn't stuff, they just need me" comes with the nice side of jealousy.

I think that you are right about the jealousy, sometimes. I think the main point wouldn't really apply to most, dare I say any of the moms on this board. My stance is, if you wanna give your kid the world, that is wonderful (plus, who truely doesn't want to do that?) If you can do it and spend time with them, that is ideal. I do know some families who are away from their children 12+ hours a day and say that they need to work this much to provide for their needs. Seeing their standard of living, I would say that their definition of "needs" is somewhat skewed. They also don't seem like very happy people. Ultimately, how each person lives is their choice, but that life is not for me. I will do without whatever materialistic item, if it means I can spend more time with my family. If I can spend time with my family and have the materialistic stuff too, that is even better as long as my family is a priority.

I think my comment was taken wrong. My son gets really fun birthdays and museum passes and my DH and I buy things we want sometimes. I think that is great and that we all need to get what we want sometimes. I am talking more along the lines of "keeping up with the Jonsas" being a way of life. If you are happy with that lifestyle then that is AWESOME and you should keep doing it. But if you cry all the time because you hate your life but keep doing it that way because you have to "keep up" then that is sad. Maybe it is different where I live but I know so many familys who literally work all the time and don't ever have money. Why? Because they buy, buy, buy. They don't have time to spend together and they don't really have a savings or money for something fun as a family. They do have a new car, the best phones, and every toy under the sun. To me there is a big difference between a work/life/stuff balance or having more money and being able to afford everything and still have lots of time left and then the extreme of the "stuff" coming before happiness and life itself.

nekorayne · June 2012

LOL, I will also add that i am confused how my comment was interrupted as "stuff = bad" or having "stuff = no time/love" because of my examples. I showed examples where people were not happy and yet felt trapped in that lifestyle because they could not give up a few things in some way. I even said that if you were happy with your situation then that is great but if you are unhappy then maybe buying more "stuff" is not the answer. I mean my son gets stuff and so do I. We also go TONS of places. But we gave a few things up so DH could be in a position that made us all happier. If everyone is happy with the work schedule and can put money away for a rainy day and have time left over then why would it be bad to buy things? It is just a different situation then what I was talking about!

nekorayne · June 2012

CnAmom:
nekorayne:
LOL, I will also add that i am confused how my comment was interrupted as "stuff = bad" or having "stuff = no time/love" because of my examples. I showed examples where people were not happy and yet felt trapped in that lifestyle because they could not give up a few things in some way. I even said that if you were happy with your situation then that is great but if you are unhappy then maybe buying more "stuff" is not the answer. I mean my son gets stuff and so do I. We also go TONS of places. But we gave a few things up so DH could be in a position that made us all happier. If everyone is happy with the work schedule and can put money away for a rainy day and have time left over then why would it be bad to buy things? It is just a different situation then what I was talking about!
I read your post as being about people who spend themselves into the poor house trying to maintain some kind of image or lifestyle that they clearly can't afford. H has a cousin who does this and it drives me batty.

EXACTLY what I meant!

Stacyc625 · June 2012

CnAmom:
I hate driving and I only do it if I absolutely have to. H thinks I'm a weirdo because I ask him to do most of the driving unless we're driving long distance and he needs a break.

I am the same exact way- I hate driving.

MAprincess · June 2012

amy052006:
scatteredtrees:

I'm generalizing here, but just because people don't like something or agree with something doesn't mean they're jealous of it.

True, definitely. But it doesn't mean their not either. And I guess in general (not in an UO post) I feel like if someone IRL needs to make a comment like this out loud, they are trying to prove or compensate for something, you know?

I disagree that just because someone makes a comment it is because they are trying to prove or compensate for something. So, if you are giving your child the world and tell people about it, that's fine- but the person who mentions they don't believe in that stuff is compensating? Maybe they are just stating their opinion? Otherwise, you are saying that any time someone has a differing opinion, they are trying to compensate or hide jealousy.

notkateanymore · June 2012

scatteredtrees:
I don't get the appeal of the 50 Shades books.

I agree...I think they're super silly.

notkateanymore · June 2012

amy052006:
scatteredtrees:
I don't get the appeal of the 50 Shades books.
My cultural interests hover somewhere around a 13 year old's. I watch a lot of reality TV. I thought Dallas on TNT last night was some of the greatest TV I have ever seen.
And even I can't get into the 50 Shades books. They are that poorly written.

I heard Dallas was really good...I need to tune in.

notkateanymore · June 2012

amy052006:
cjcouple:
I get what pp are saying but I also think it is naive to think just because people give their kids stuff they are not giving them the quality time/love
I was spoiled as a kid, big lavish christmas and birthdays. Because my sister and I were born within 6 days of Christmas we also would get bonus gifts for summer toys etc
But we also had lots of love and family times. My BFF oldest memory is coming to my house and have spaghettis o and choc milk by candlelight. She thought it was awesome.
I do a lot with my boys, play hide n seek in the house/outside, games, park, and movie nights. But I also give them lots of stuff. I would hate to think I was being condemned for that.
Totally agree. And I think that annoys me a little about the whole attitude -- sure, my kid may not need X, Y, Z. But honestly, it is fun to do and give him stuff. Sometimes those "my kid doesn't stuff, they just need me" comes with the nice side of jealousy.

I agree with this, especially the last sentence.

elainedave · June 2012

nowababy:

I generally think mommy groups are weird. I make myself go because I do need the social interaction at times and I keep hoping that maybe I'll click with someone. But at the end of the day, I think it's weird to be friends just because we have kids.

I understand that it could just be a venue to meet someone that you are compatible with outside of the whole kids thing... but hasn't happened for me yet.

Same here. I would love to make some local friends who also have infants (and that we share other interests aside from having a kid), but I struggled with the new mom groups bc it felt forced and weird... so I stopped going. Will need to meet ppl some other way.

elainedave · June 2012

nowababy:

I generally think mommy groups are weird. I make myself go because I do need the social interaction at times and I keep hoping that maybe I'll click with someone. But at the end of the day, I think it's weird to be friends just because we have kids.

I understand that it could just be a venue to meet someone that you are compatible with outside of the whole kids thing... but hasn't happened for me yet.

Same here. I would love to make some local friends who also have infants (and that we share other interests aside from having a kid), but I struggled with the new mom groups bc it felt forced and weird... so I stopped going. Will need to meet ppl some other way.

elainedave · June 2012

nowababy:

I generally think mommy groups are weird. I make myself go because I do need the social interaction at times and I keep hoping that maybe I'll click with someone. But at the end of the day, I think it's weird to be friends just because we have kids.

I understand that it could just be a venue to meet someone that you are compatible with outside of the whole kids thing... but hasn't happened for me yet.

Same here. I would love to make some local friends who also have infants (and that we share other interests aside from having a kid), but I struggled with the new mom groups bc it felt forced and weird... so I stopped going. Will need to meet ppl some other way.

toadstool · June 2012

nekorayne:
toadstool:
amy052006:
cjcouple:

I get what pp are saying but I also think it is naive to think just because people give their kids stuff they are not giving them the quality time/love

I was spoiled as a kid, big lavish christmas and birthdays. Because my sister and I were born within 6 days of Christmas we also would get bonus gifts for summer toys etc

But we also had lots of love and family times. My BFF oldest memory is coming to my house and have spaghettis o and choc milk by candlelight. She thought it was awesome.

I do a lot with my boys, play hide n seek in the house/outside, games, park, and movie nights. But I also give them lots of stuff. I would hate to think I was being condemned for that.

Totally agree. And I think that annoys me a little about the whole attitude -- sure, my kid may not need X, Y, Z. But honestly, it is fun to do and give him stuff. Sometimes those "my kid doesn't stuff, they just need me" comes with the nice side of jealousy.

I think that you are right about the jealousy, sometimes. I think the main point wouldn't really apply to most, dare I say any of the moms on this board. My stance is, if you wanna give your kid the world, that is wonderful (plus, who truely doesn't want to do that?) If you can do it and spend time with them, that is ideal. I do know some families who are away from their children 12+ hours a day and say that they need to work this much to provide for their needs. Seeing their standard of living, I would say that their definition of "needs" is somewhat skewed. They also don't seem like very happy people. Ultimately, how each person lives is their choice, but that life is not for me. I will do without whatever materialistic item, if it means I can spend more time with my family. If I can spend time with my family and have the materialistic stuff too, that is even better as long as my family is a priority.

I think my comment was taken wrong. My son gets really fun birthdays and museum passes and my DH and I buy things we want sometimes. I think that is great and that we all need to get what we want sometimes. I am talking more along the lines of "keeping up with the Jonsas" being a way of life. If you are happy with that lifestyle then that is AWESOME and you should keep doing it. But if you cry all the time because you hate your life but keep doing it that way because you have to "keep up" then that is sad. Maybe it is different where I live but I know so many familys who literally work all the time and don't ever have money. Why? Because they buy, buy, buy. They don't have time to spend together and they don't really have a savings or money for something fun as a family. They do have a new car, the best phones, and every toy under the sun. To me there is a big difference between a work/life/stuff balance or having more money and being able to afford everything and still have lots of time left and then the extreme of the "stuff" coming before happiness and life itself.

Yeah, honestly I should correct myself. I went on to talk about time vs. money. I know it sounded like I was saying that was your point, but really I just ment to say that, for me, that was the important point.

elainedave · June 2012

sorry about the multi-posts. can't seem to delete...

ENI36 · June 2012

lisamoe:
This is the first cycle I have been charting. I'm already sick of it. I know I have to do it, to learn my cycle, but it gets on my nerves.

Its bad enough getting AF and being disappointed, now I can be disappointed looking at my chart temps taking a nosedive days before AF. Yipppeeee!

I used to hate it too. I stopped doing it because I hated it so much. I was also really bad about recording temps at the same time because DS was always up at all different hours of the night/morning. I started to just use OPK's and looking at other obvious signs that indicated ovulation was coming. It worked really well for me but I know it's probably not ideal for everyone.

nekorayne · June 2012

amy052006:
MAprincess:
amy052006:
scatteredtrees:

I'm generalizing here, but just because people don't like something or agree with something doesn't mean they're jealous of it.

True, definitely. But it doesn't mean their not either. And I guess in general (not in an UO post) I feel like if someone IRL needs to make a comment like this out loud, they are trying to prove or compensate for something, you know?

I disagree that just because someone makes a comment it is because they are trying to prove or compensate for something. So, if you are giving your child the world and tell people about it, that's fine- but the person who mentions they don't believe in that stuff is compensating? Maybe they are just stating their opinion? Otherwise, you are saying that any time someone has a differing opinion, they are trying to compensate or hide jealousy.

That is assuming that someone even brought it up in the first place -- if two parents want to have a sanctimonious smug off about the merits of giving their kids the world vs. financially irresponsible quality time (two extremes, I know), that is one thing. Be asshats together for all I care.
But frankly I think either side of the topic brought just randomly indicates some sort of insecurity with your decision.
I mean really, for as much as the person I know complains about their current lot in life and how it is necessary to give their kid everything, my husband and I have never really responded with anything but "uh huh". What do I gain, really, by saying "You know Dh and I have come to realize X and Y are truly unnecessary and that is why we have nothing to complain about" except for a little validation and a pat on the back? We aren't looking for that.

I think if it is said on an UO it is probably not out of jealousy. Just more out of discussion or, well, an unpopular opinion since that is what this is. If it randomly comes up in a discussion and it is a real discussion or disagreement on an opinion in the discussion then it is probably just an opinion. If you try to force the other to see it your way and give you a pat on the back good job you probably have some hang ups and need validation.

I mean when the people I know who complain about thier life and say they have to have everything though begin the complainy thing I just nod and smile unless they ask for advice--and even then I give vague advice unless they seem to really want otherwise. I mean i have caught myself needing validation and trying to prove my point during a time when my point was really not even being questioned and I know that I was having hand ups then. It was mainly whne DS was a newborn and I had PPD and felt super insecure.
I had to take a step back and say "hey self, what is up? Why are you being a know it all? Is it because the new baby is scary? Well chill out!"

But an opinion, is an opinion and is not necessarily jealousy. Especially on these message boards (and maybe in our heads IRL) I think most comments that may be an opinion are considered jealousy to easily.. Or maybe even get attacked because we all feel the need to defend our choices. I mean I think everyone questions sometimes, including me, and we have to stop and remind ourselfs that what we are doing is right for us an we don't have to prove it..

nekorayne · June 2012

toadstool:
nekorayne:
toadstool:
amy052006:
cjcouple:

I get what pp are saying but I also think it is naive to think just because people give their kids stuff they are not giving them the quality time/love

I was spoiled as a kid, big lavish christmas and birthdays. Because my sister and I were born within 6 days of Christmas we also would get bonus gifts for summer toys etc

But we also had lots of love and family times. My BFF oldest memory is coming to my house and have spaghettis o and choc milk by candlelight. She thought it was awesome.

I do a lot with my boys, play hide n seek in the house/outside, games, park, and movie nights. But I also give them lots of stuff. I would hate to think I was being condemned for that.

Totally agree. And I think that annoys me a little about the whole attitude -- sure, my kid may not need X, Y, Z. But honestly, it is fun to do and give him stuff. Sometimes those "my kid doesn't stuff, they just need me" comes with the nice side of jealousy.

I think that you are right about the jealousy, sometimes. I think the main point wouldn't really apply to most, dare I say any of the moms on this board. My stance is, if you wanna give your kid the world, that is wonderful (plus, who truely doesn't want to do that?) If you can do it and spend time with them, that is ideal. I do know some families who are away from their children 12+ hours a day and say that they need to work this much to provide for their needs. Seeing their standard of living, I would say that their definition of "needs" is somewhat skewed. They also don't seem like very happy people. Ultimately, how each person lives is their choice, but that life is not for me. I will do without whatever materialistic item, if it means I can spend more time with my family. If I can spend time with my family and have the materialistic stuff too, that is even better as long as my family is a priority.

I think my comment was taken wrong. My son gets really fun birthdays and museum passes and my DH and I buy things we want sometimes. I think that is great and that we all need to get what we want sometimes. I am talking more along the lines of "keeping up with the Jonsas" being a way of life. If you are happy with that lifestyle then that is AWESOME and you should keep doing it. But if you cry all the time because you hate your life but keep doing it that way because you have to "keep up" then that is sad. Maybe it is different where I live but I know so many familys who literally work all the time and don't ever have money. Why? Because they buy, buy, buy. They don't have time to spend together and they don't really have a savings or money for something fun as a family. They do have a new car, the best phones, and every toy under the sun. To me there is a big difference between a work/life/stuff balance or having more money and being able to afford everything and still have lots of time left and then the extreme of the "stuff" coming before happiness and life itself.
Yeah, honestly I should correct myself. I went on to talk about time vs. money. I know it sounded like I was saying that was your point, but really I just ment to say that, for me, that was the important point.

LOL, oh I get you. I was kind of questioning my point making skills to be honest. I 100% agree with you actually!

MJCF · June 2012

scatteredtrees:
I'm generalizing here, but just because people don't like something or agree with something doesn't mean they're jealous of it.

I don't like pickles. Its because I'm jealous of them.

EnglishMajor03 · June 2012

Neko-

I agree with your statements. I was feeling a bit insecure lately about our lifestyle but then an acquaintance of ours totally put some things into perspective. Her H is looking for PT work on top of his FT job (she works FT too) just to provide for some things that I see as unnecessary. Now, obviously this couple does not see those extras as unnecessary and that's okay. But, hearing how stressed they were validated (for me) some lifestyle decisions that H and I have made. We live a pretty simplistic life and are very happy with that.

wifeandmama · June 2012

I hate the summer. I hate pools, hot weather, vacation, the beach, humidity.... thankfully I married a fellow cold weather lover who doesn't think I am insane for barricading myself indoors with the a/c blasting when it's above 85!

lisamoe · June 2012

scatteredtrees:

I'm generalizing here, but just because people don't like something or agree with something doesn't mean they're jealous of it.

completely agree, scat!

lisamoe · June 2012

ENI36:
lisamoe:

This is the first cycle I have been charting. I'm already sick of it. I know I have to do it, to learn my cycle, but it gets on my nerves.

Its bad enough getting AF and being disappointed, now I can be disappointed looking at my chart temps taking a nosedive days before AF. Yipppeeee!

I used to hate it too. I stopped doing it because I hated it so much. I was also really bad about recording temps at the same time because DS was always up at all different hours of the night/morning. I started to just use OPK's and looking at other obvious signs that indicated ovulation was coming. It worked really well for me but I know it's probably not ideal for everyone.

It is my first month doing it. If I feel this way every month, I probably won't keep up. Its depressing. Keeps me guessing more than if I wasn't temping (because I feel like its constantly on my mind now).

And I'm the same as you...my DS still doesn't sleep through the night always and wakes at different times, so I have tons of open circles on my graph. Arg...

StephNJer · June 2012

elainedave:
nowababy:

I generally think mommy groups are weird. I make myself go because I do need the social interaction at times and I keep hoping that maybe I'll click with someone. But at the end of the day, I think it's weird to be friends just because we have kids.

I understand that it could just be a venue to meet someone that you are compatible with outside of the whole kids thing... but hasn't happened for me yet.

Same here. I would love to make some local friends who also have infants (and that we share other interests aside from having a kid), but I struggled with the new mom groups bc it felt forced and weird... so I stopped going. Will need to meet ppl some other way.

Same here! I belong to a Moms group that meets a few times a month, and have made good friends through there, but it seems like so many of them try SO hard to have "mommy playdates" and stuff, and it just comes off as a little strange and forced.

I made friends with a mom whose daughter was in my DD's class this past year, and her and I have become really good friends. I totally enjoy hanging out with her and having playdates for our kids. I feel so much more comfortable with her than I do the other friends I made through my mom group, and I think it's because her and I became friends naturally, instead of it being this forced "let's have a playdate two times a week!" type of thing.

HarrietNJMommy · June 2012

I think the book "I'll Love You Forever" is super creepy. I don't find it endearing at all..........I mean, I get what it means, but it's the way it's presented........

Andrewsgal · June 2012

HarrietNJMommy:
I think the book "I'll Love You Forever" is super creepy. I don't find it endearing at all..........I mean, I get what it means, but it's the way it's presented........

I totally agree with you and we have 4 yes four copies of it. I love making DH read it to the kids because it totally eeks him out. I think the point is good, but the presentation is weird.

HarrietNJMommy · June 2012

Andrewsgal:
HarrietNJMommy:
I think the book "I'll Love You Forever" is super creepy. I don't find it endearing at all..........I mean, I get what it means, but it's the way it's presented........
I totally agree with you and we have 4 yes four copies of it. I love making DH read it to the kids because it totally eeks him out. I think the point is good, but the presentation is weird.

The mom going into the grown son's room is totally creepy. And not in a good way! LOL!

I kept getting the book as a gift and tossing it out. Now, I have one copy that I've hidden and haven't gotten it as a gift again! LOL!

lexusolsen · June 2012

HarrietNJMommy:
I think the book "I'll Love You Forever" is super creepy. I don't find it endearing at all..........I mean, I get what it means, but it's the way it's presented........

My mom and her sisters read this book to us all the time when we were little. My mom got it for us before LO was born and I read it and thought it was creepy. Talk about a mom with no boundaries! That's extreme, even for my MIL. I still like the "chorus" but don't read the book to LO.

Dochas · June 2012

Kimbus22:
nekorayne:

I kind of feel that a lot of people put "things" in front of happiness and that as a society we havea very skewed vision of what we need to live a fulfilled and happy life. Sometimes I'm shocked at what people fill they "need" and I think that "things" are considered happiness for so many.

I can see where you're coming from. I have a friend who shares a car with her husband. They have 3 jobs between them and two small kids. But they share a car (and constantly complain about it, beg for rides, ask whoever walks in their house to watch the kids immediately so one of them can drive the other to work etc.) because they want a brand new car every two years. So every two years they roll whatever is left on their car loan into a new car loan and are always driving something new. But they are constantly stressed about getting places, relying on other people to stay with their kids so they don't have to buckle them in and out of the car 15 times a day and can't pay their bills. Ummm....just buy two decent used cars. Why are you making yourselves miserable and your kids spend half their life driving around so you can have a shiny new car?

That said, I firmly believe a hiring a cleaning service would improve my life and let me spend more time playing directly with my son instead of trying to keep him safely occupied while I'm getting things done. But I'm not willing to give up my big fat cable package for it

Can they really not see how insane this is?

My UO came to mind from the non drivers. I love to drive. LOL. But I think women who "don't drive on the highway" are really just looking to control their husbands.

Andrewsgal · June 2012

HarrietNJMommy:
Andrewsgal:
HarrietNJMommy:
I think the book "I'll Love You Forever" is super creepy. I don't find it endearing at all..........I mean, I get what it means, but it's the way it's presented........
I totally agree with you and we have 4 yes four copies of it. I love making DH read it to the kids because it totally eeks him out. I think the point is good, but the presentation is weird.
The mom going into the grown son's room is totally creepy. And not in a good way! LOL!
I kept getting the book as a gift and tossing it out. Now, I have one copy that I've hidden and haven't gotten it as a gift again! LOL!

That is why we have 4! We got them all as gifts, creepy is the perfect word.

Dochas · June 2012

I have GOT to get a look at this creepy kid's book!

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