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CinemaGoddess · May 2012

mbenit4:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

You didn't stop working to get on government financial assistance.

No, but if things got dire enough I wouldn't be ashamed to get on WIC.

Like I said, working would be counterproductive for us because the cost of childcare for two kids around here costs more than I make in a month.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
NY Mama:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

No CG you should work the opposite shift that your partner does so that you don't have to pay daycare. You also won't be able to sleep, crappy quality of life and will have no relationship with your partner, but at least you will be able to support your children. BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

It doesn't have to be that you work 7p-7a 5 days a week and never sleep.

I work 6-11 2 nights a week, manage to sleep and have a terrific relationship with my DH. There are plenty of jobs like that.

Also, say you work 2nd shift from 2-10. You're paying for 3-4 hours a daycare (assuming your DH gets out around 5-6), working 8 hours and managing to get home in time to sleep. There's plenty of options.

I get why naturally why would people want to do that because it's hard. Much easier to get free money instead and make life easier for everyone involved.

You really don't get it, do you?

ETA - the daycares around here have a year-long wait list at most reputable places.

Should I put my kids in a less-than-reputable daycare because otherwise I'd be a bad mom for not going to work to pay for the less-than-reputable daycare?

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
NY Mama:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

No CG you should work the opposite shift that your partner does so that you don't have to pay daycare. You also won't be able to sleep, crappy quality of life and will have no relationship with your partner, but at least you will be able to support your children. BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

It doesn't have to be that you work 7p-7a 5 days a week and never sleep.

I work 6-11 2 nights a week, manage to sleep and have a terrific relationship with my DH. There are plenty of jobs like that.

Also, say you work 2nd shift from 2-10. You're paying for 3-4 hours a daycare (assuming your DH gets out around 5-6), working 8 hours and managing to get home in time to sleep. There's plenty of options.

I get why naturally why would people want to do that because it's hard. Much easier to get free money instead and make life easier for everyone involved.

You really don't get it, do you?

I get it. Our generation is lazy.

SunDrop11 · May 2012

beccaga16:
I found out that a small mole I have had my hole life and that is barely noticable is most likely a thirrd "nipple". It is not a full on nipple, as I said it looks just like a light colored mole, and I don't really care... but the word nipple has been making my friends look at me like a freak....

Chandler Bing would refer to this as a "nubbin"

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

lol @ working a million hours a week.

You realize that those people were often children who had to go to work at the age of 10 or younger to help put food on the table.

Google "Triangle Factory Fire" and tell me is what you're talking about when you talk about working to put food on the table.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
NY Mama:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

No CG you should work the opposite shift that your partner does so that you don't have to pay daycare. You also won't be able to sleep, crappy quality of life and will have no relationship with your partner, but at least you will be able to support your children. BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

It doesn't have to be that you work 7p-7a 5 days a week and never sleep.

I work 6-11 2 nights a week, manage to sleep and have a terrific relationship with my DH. There are plenty of jobs like that.

Also, say you work 2nd shift from 2-10. You're paying for 3-4 hours a daycare (assuming your DH gets out around 5-6), working 8 hours and managing to get home in time to sleep. There's plenty of options.

I get why naturally why would people want to do that because it's hard. Much easier to get free money instead and make life easier for everyone involved.

You really don't get it, do you?

ETA - the daycares around here have a year-long wait list at most reputable places.

Should I put my kids in a less-than-reputable daycare because otherwise I'd be a bad mom for not going to work to pay for the less-than-reputable daycare?

I honestly don't believe that every daycare that doesn't have a year long waitlist is sh!t and they're going to ruin your kid for life.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
NY Mama:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

No CG you should work the opposite shift that your partner does so that you don't have to pay daycare. You also won't be able to sleep, crappy quality of life and will have no relationship with your partner, but at least you will be able to support your children. BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

It doesn't have to be that you work 7p-7a 5 days a week and never sleep.

I work 6-11 2 nights a week, manage to sleep and have a terrific relationship with my DH. There are plenty of jobs like that.

Also, say you work 2nd shift from 2-10. You're paying for 3-4 hours a daycare (assuming your DH gets out around 5-6), working 8 hours and managing to get home in time to sleep. There's plenty of options.

I get why naturally why would people want to do that because it's hard. Much easier to get free money instead and make life easier for everyone involved.

You really don't get it, do you?

I get it. Our generation is lazy.

Which generation are you, exactly?

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
NY Mama:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

No CG you should work the opposite shift that your partner does so that you don't have to pay daycare. You also won't be able to sleep, crappy quality of life and will have no relationship with your partner, but at least you will be able to support your children. BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

It doesn't have to be that you work 7p-7a 5 days a week and never sleep.

I work 6-11 2 nights a week, manage to sleep and have a terrific relationship with my DH. There are plenty of jobs like that.

Also, say you work 2nd shift from 2-10. You're paying for 3-4 hours a daycare (assuming your DH gets out around 5-6), working 8 hours and managing to get home in time to sleep. There's plenty of options.

I get why naturally why would people want to do that because it's hard. Much easier to get free money instead and make life easier for everyone involved.

You really don't get it, do you?

ETA - the daycares around here have a year-long wait list at most reputable places.

Should I put my kids in a less-than-reputable daycare because otherwise I'd be a bad mom for not going to work to pay for the less-than-reputable daycare?

I honestly don't believe that every daycare that doesn't have a year long waitlist is sh!t and they're going to ruin your kid for life.

No, but they are the ones that are somewhat overcrowded with personnel that have less than stellar credentials and may not be able to take care of all the children adequately.

But really, it's only the safety of my kids. Why should that matter?

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:

lol @ working a million hours a week.

You realize that those people were often children who had to go to work at the age of 10 or younger to help put food on the table.

Google "Triangle Factory Fire" and tell me is what you're talking about when you talk about working to put food on the table.

Not saying that life was perfect back then.

However, it doesn't take away from the fact that our parents/grandparents generation were much harder working than ours and we're a bunch of lazy, entitled folks that won't work hard and sacrifice.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
NY Mama:

CinemaGoddess:
I know I should totally give up being a SAHM and work at a job that pays less than daycare costs because BOOTSTRAPS.

No CG you should work the opposite shift that your partner does so that you don't have to pay daycare. You also won't be able to sleep, crappy quality of life and will have no relationship with your partner, but at least you will be able to support your children. BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

It doesn't have to be that you work 7p-7a 5 days a week and never sleep.

I work 6-11 2 nights a week, manage to sleep and have a terrific relationship with my DH. There are plenty of jobs like that.

Also, say you work 2nd shift from 2-10. You're paying for 3-4 hours a daycare (assuming your DH gets out around 5-6), working 8 hours and managing to get home in time to sleep. There's plenty of options.

I get why naturally why would people want to do that because it's hard. Much easier to get free money instead and make life easier for everyone involved.

You really don't get it, do you?

ETA - the daycares around here have a year-long wait list at most reputable places.

Should I put my kids in a less-than-reputable daycare because otherwise I'd be a bad mom for not going to work to pay for the less-than-reputable daycare?

I honestly don't believe that every daycare that doesn't have a year long waitlist is sh!t and they're going to ruin your kid for life.

No, but they are the ones that are somewhat overcrowded with personnel that have less than stellar credentials and may not be able to take care of all the children adequately.

But really, it's only the safety of my kids. Why should that matter?

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

lol @ working a million hours a week.

You realize that those people were often children who had to go to work at the age of 10 or younger to help put food on the table.

Google "Triangle Factory Fire" and tell me is what you're talking about when you talk about working to put food on the table.

Not saying that life was perfect back then.

However, it doesn't take away from the fact that our parents/grandparents generation were much harder working than ours and we're a bunch of lazy, entitled folks that won't work hard and sacrifice.

You're 100% sure about that.

You have a time machine that allows you to see this first hand or are you just trusting the "These kids today!" comments made by people who are rapidly getting more senile?

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

LilyRose28 · May 2012

Heather R:
if you had read, you would see that this has been both brought up and addressed. He kicked his 15 year old out because he thought she was possessed. His wife convinced him she wasborn of sin in his first marriage. Finding religion sent his daughter to therapy. I am talking about my douchebag cousin, not the institution. There is no way I could have been clearer that I was talking about an individual. I think it is alarming that anyone here thinks his behavior is simply a weird practice. Also, I have no problem condemning his beliefs about witchcraft as brainwashed, stupid, and even ignorant bigotry. You are saying I think his beliefs are just strange. No. I am saying that believing someone else's religion is evil sucks. So please check yourself, Lilyrose.

I wasn't even talking about your post, Heather. The person I quoted might have been but I was talking about comments in general that put Christianity as a whole down. I actually think your cousin's situation is quite sad and I'm sorry his daughter had to go through it.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

lol @ working a million hours a week.

You realize that those people were often children who had to go to work at the age of 10 or younger to help put food on the table.

Google "Triangle Factory Fire" and tell me is what you're talking about when you talk about working to put food on the table.

Not saying that life was perfect back then.

However, it doesn't take away from the fact that our parents/grandparents generation were much harder working than ours and we're a bunch of lazy, entitled folks that won't work hard and sacrifice.

You're 100% sure about that.

You have a time machine that allows you to see this first hand or are you just trusting the "These kids today!" comments made by people who are rapidly getting more senile?

Considering that 1 in 6 is on public assistance in our generation and it wasn't so readily available back then, people had no choice but to work hard.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

Yes, I'm sure Seattle has the worst childcare options in the country. No childcare available in Seattle. Don't ever move there if you have kids.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

Yes, I'm sure Seattle has the worst childcare options in the country. No childcare available in Seattle. Don't ever move there if you have kids.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

lol @ working a million hours a week.

You realize that those people were often children who had to go to work at the age of 10 or younger to help put food on the table.

Google "Triangle Factory Fire" and tell me is what you're talking about when you talk about working to put food on the table.

Not saying that life was perfect back then.

However, it doesn't take away from the fact that our parents/grandparents generation were much harder working than ours and we're a bunch of lazy, entitled folks that won't work hard and sacrifice.

You're 100% sure about that.

You have a time machine that allows you to see this first hand or are you just trusting the "These kids today!" comments made by people who are rapidly getting more senile?

Considering that 1 in 6 is on public assistance in our generation and it wasn't so readily available back then, people had no choice but to work hard.

Or families were broken up and children sent to live in foster care-type situations because their parents didn't have any kind of financial support available to them when times got rough.

Or people starved.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

Yes, I'm sure Seattle has the worst childcare options in the country. No childcare available in Seattle. Don't ever move there if you have kids.

That's not the point.

The point is that the childcare situation in Seattle may be different than what you're used to in your neck of the woods.

It sounds like it is.

But, of course, this means nothing to you because you can't possibly understand what it's like to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

LilyRose28 · May 2012

mbenit4:
LilyRose28:

KC_13:
Right-it doesn't make sense for you to work the same shift as your DH does. That's not the only option you have to work though. There's 2nd/3rd shifts. There's weekends. You can babysit or clean houses for extra money, either during the week or on weekends. There's plenty of nontraditional jobs out there where both parents can be earning income while avoiding the expense of full time childcare

And never sleep so you can always be the top notch happy parent, right?

People should think of these things BEFORE having children.

Hey, you know what? People's situations change. Did my husband want to take a job that takes him away 60% of the year? NO. But it was either re-enlist in the military and continue to be miserable and STILL have to leave a lot or take the one job that he was offered at the time that had a liveable income and benefits. Did I want to accept a $12/hour 10-month job with no benefits after getting my Master's instead of a $45,000+ a year job with great benefits in the field? No but I did so I'd get experience. That $12/hour job would barely cover daycare costs for my son where we live and considering teaching jobs continue to be scarce thanks to budget cuts and a flooded market of graduates, I don't think the situation is going to change any time soon. We're not on government aid but we are stuck in a small apartment because housing is outrageously expensive here and while we do manage to live comfortably, we have a hard time getting ahead on the one income.

People in the military qualify for WIC. Are you going to tell a wife and mother that she shouldn't have kids because they "can't afford it" without assistance despite the fact that she stays home because her husband leaves to defend our country months or years at a time?

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

Yes, I'm sure Seattle has the worst childcare options in the country. No childcare available in Seattle. Don't ever move there if you have kids.

That's not the point.

The point is that the childcare situation in Seattle may be different than what you're used to in your neck of the woods.

It sounds like it is.

But, of course, this means nothing to you because you can't possibly understand what it's like to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

I think sweeping generalizations about all childcare options in their area is beyond foolish.

So you've interviewed every nanny, every in home daycare to know that they are all horrible options and unless the place has a year long wait last, your child isn't getting adequate care?

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LilyRose28 · May 2012

I'm now really curious where KC lives. And how it makes sense to go work a few hours a week for minimum wage then turn around and hand the babysitter my paycheck.

scoutkate · May 2012

LilyRose28:

I'm now really curious where KC lives. And how it makes sense to go work a few hours a week for minimum wage then turn around and hand the babysitter my paycheck.

She lives in Stepford. Obvs.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

Yes, I'm sure Seattle has the worst childcare options in the country. No childcare available in Seattle. Don't ever move there if you have kids.

That's not the point.

The point is that the childcare situation in Seattle may be different than what you're used to in your neck of the woods.

It sounds like it is.

But, of course, this means nothing to you because you can't possibly understand what it's like to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

I think sweeping generalizations about all childcare options in their area is beyond foolish.

So you've interviewed every nanny, every in home daycare to know that they are all horrible options and unless the place has a year long wait last, your child isn't getting adequate care?

Yes.

This is called doing research over the course of 2 1/2 years. The daycares we can afford either have year-long wait lists (if they're good) or get really bad reviews from various sources.

The ones that are more affordable are on the opposite side of the city, adding roughly 2 hours and $10 in gas per trip (based on current gas prices) per day. That makes the price difference moot because of the extra gas and wear-and-tear on my car.

I'm loling that you think I'm just pulling all of this information out of my ass.

DreadLoc · May 2012

KC_13:

I think sweeping generalizations....[are] beyond foolish.

You should really apply this kind of thinking to all topics.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

LilyRose28:

I'm now really curious where KC lives. And how it makes sense to go work a few hours a week for minimum wage then turn around and hand the babysitter my paycheck.

Funny enough, in an area where the unemployment rate is near the highest in the country.

Unless your DH works 7am-7pm 7 days a week, there are options that you don't have to hand a sitter your whole entire paycheck.

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

So you're in Detroit or some other part of Michigan?

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:
KC_13:
CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

I guess I must be the luckiest person in the world because I found a daycare for my kids that isn't overcrowded and I didn't have to wait a year for placement.

One in a million thing because if you're a good provider, you have a year long wait list. Everyone else is just sh!t.

Huh. I didn't realize you lived in Seattle.

Yes, I'm sure Seattle has the worst childcare options in the country. No childcare available in Seattle. Don't ever move there if you have kids.

That's not the point.

The point is that the childcare situation in Seattle may be different than what you're used to in your neck of the woods.

It sounds like it is.

But, of course, this means nothing to you because you can't possibly understand what it's like to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

I think sweeping generalizations about all childcare options in their area is beyond foolish.

So you've interviewed every nanny, every in home daycare to know that they are all horrible options and unless the place has a year long wait last, your child isn't getting adequate care?

Yes.

This is called doing research over the course of 2 1/2 years. The daycares we can afford either have year-long wait lists (if they're good) or get really bad reviews from various sources.

The ones that are more affordable are on the opposite side of the city, adding roughly 2 hours and $10 in gas per trip (based on current gas prices) per day. That makes the price difference moot because of the extra gas and wear-and-tear on my car.

I'm loling that you think I'm just pulling all of this information out of my ass.

What about in-home daycares/nanny (or nanny share to save money)/au pair? There's more options than just daycare centers, you know.

I think "I can't work because all childcare options in my area are just horrible or unaffordable" is pretty silly.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:
So you're in Detroit or some other part of Michigan?

Actually, even lower down the list.

I'm in RI. 2nd highest UE rate in the country.

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LilyRose28 · May 2012

KC_13:
Funny enough, in an area where the unemployment rate is near the highest in the country.
Unless your DH works 7am-7pm 7 days a week, there are options that you don't have to hand a sitter your whole entire paycheck.

My H travels 50-60% of the time. He was just gone for 2 weeks and leaves Sunday for 3 more weeks. If he was here all the time, then yes, I could go find a job a few hours a week. But he's not and I don't have free babysitting available to me so it doesn't work for us.

scoutkate · May 2012

KC_13:

CinemaGoddess:
So you're in Detroit or some other part of Michigan?

Actually, even lower down the list.

I'm in RI. 2nd highest UE rate in the country.

I'm picturing you skipping around RI yelling "BOOTSTRAPS!!" at the unemployed masses.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

IrishCoffee7:
KC_13:
I think sweeping generalizations about all childcare options in their area is beyond foolish.
So you've interviewed every nanny, every in home daycare to know that they are all horrible options and unless the place has a year long wait last, your child isn't getting adequate care?

DH and I hit the lottery on our inexpensive childcare. But the reality that people I know IRL face is that less expensive childcare is often less reliable. Lower paying jobs with varied, hourly schedules are some of the hardest to find consistent childcare FOR, not to mention the least tolerant/flexible when parents have childcare issues. I have, a flexible job and a tolerant boss along with really reliable childcare. It's still stressful as hell when you have a kid who's sick for a couple days or your childcare/backup childcare falls through. The further down the totem pole you go in both childcare quality and lower paying/hourly jobs, the harder it is to make it work. I am fortunate now to be in a professional environment but I worked those jobs with the parents who were struggling to get by and struggling to be reliable employees and still provide trustworthy childcare to their kids that they could actually afford. There comes a point sometimes where it just doesn't make sense.
Also, without wishing bad things on you personally, I really hope life opens your eyes or knocks you down a few pegs one of these days. You're obnoxious.

Edited

I'm not saying take the cheapest childcare option ever so you can work.

What about working evenings? Weekends? Maybe some people have a spouse that works from 7pm-7am 7 days a week and makes peanuts, but I'm guessing that there's some flexibility to find an off hours job.

Again, say hypothetically you find a job that starts at 2pm. You need daycare for 3-4 hours assuming your DH works until 5. You could go on care.com, find someone to cover that shift, and 3-4 hours of care is a whole lot cheaper than paying for 40 hours a week daycare. Even on a minimum wage job, you could be in the green in that scenario. And if that's what parents need to do to make sure their kids are provided for adequately, I think that's what they should do. I know that makes me flameful around here.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

LilyRose28:
KC_13:
Funny enough, in an area where the unemployment rate is near the highest in the country.
Unless your DH works 7am-7pm 7 days a week, there are options that you don't have to hand a sitter your whole entire paycheck.

My H travels 50-60% of the time. He was just gone for 2 weeks and leaves Sunday for 3 more weeks. If he was here all the time, then yes, I could go find a job a few hours a week. But he's not and I don't have free babysitting available to me so it doesn't work for us.

Northeast. HCOL.

ETA: Of course, there's always going to be an exception to the rule. Doesn't mean it doesnt' work for the masses.

LilyRose28 · May 2012

KC_13:
Actually, even lower down the list.
I'm in RI. 2nd highest UE rate in the country.

Sweet, you're near me. Come babysit my kid so I can work

CinemaGoddess · May 2012

KC_13:

What about in-home daycares/nanny (or nanny share to save money)/au pair? There's more options than just daycare centers, you know.

I think "I can't work because all childcare options in my area are just horrible or unaffordable" is pretty silly.

Au Pairs are just as expensive as in-home centers around here, plus we don't have room for a live-in.

Nanny shares we looked into, but there were none available in the area we were living in at the time who were willing to take two babies plus another child or two.

I think making broad generalizations work 60% of the time, all the time.

kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

LilyRose28:
KC_13:
Actually, even lower down the list.
I'm in RI. 2nd highest UE rate in the country.

Sweet, you're near me. Come babysit my kid so I can work

LOL! I have my hands full with my own kids. Smile

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kcisthebombdotcom · May 2012

CinemaGoddess:

KC_13:

What about in-home daycares/nanny (or nanny share to save money)/au pair? There's more options than just daycare centers, you know.

I think "I can't work because all childcare options in my area are just horrible or unaffordable" is pretty silly.

Au Pairs are just as expensive as in-home centers around here, plus we don't have room for a live-in.

Nanny shares we looked into, but there were none available in the area we were living in at the time who were willing to take two babies plus another child or two.

I think making broad generalizations work 60% of the time, all the time.

I know, more excuses. We'll just have to agree to disagree here.

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