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robinsokj · April 2012

If my dogs were to suddenly become aggressive towards my kids and we couldn't fix the behavior ourselves I'd rehome them in a heartbeat. I'm not going to spend a shitload of money on behavior specialists if someone is offering a loving home.

The person below gave their dog to a loving family, they didn't throw it in the dumpster. Give me a break

CinemaGoddess · April 2012

ILY, robin.

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DrinknDerive · April 2012

ITA. I'm not going to risk my actual baby's safety for a fur baby. Sorry.

+SMACE+ · April 2012

I've seen firsthand what a dog attack can do to a person. It's awful. And, god forbid, they keep the dog and the dog attacks, it will be put down.

And and the dog that attacked my neighbor, was supposedly a very very gentle breed. Tell her and her 200k in med bills that.

Its not like someone said "im tired of this dog. I'm bored. Out it goes". Im sure the decision was not made lightly.

KJmashup · April 2012

And once again, I creepily swoon over robin.

MomlovesEloise · April 2012

ITA. I love my dogs, but they'd be gone immediately.

KJmashup · April 2012

I'm allergic to cats, yet my mom wouldn't do anything about it when I was a kid. She said she'd rather rehome me than her cats. She was not joking. That sticks with me to this day, and I think it irreparably broke a part of me.

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LilyRose28 · April 2012

Amen!

I wrote in the other thread, our dog came from a family that had to re-home him. He was happy and well-adjusted and we loved that pup for 11 years before we had to put him down when he got cancer. Our home was a better environmental fit for him. Re-homing is not the devil's work. Sometimes it really is in the best interest of the dog and people need to stop acting like it's the worst thing ever. Why should a dog and a family be miserable when both dog and new family might be much better suited for each other?

ames71 · April 2012

Word.

CinemaGoddess · April 2012

KJmashup:
I'm allergic to cats, yet my mom wouldn't do anything about it when I was a kid. She said she'd rather rehome me than her cats. She was not joking. That sticks with me to this day, and I think it irreparably broke a part of me.

I would rehome DH before I would rehome you.

Trust and believe.

jlthompson19 · April 2012

Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

Reagan1010 · April 2012

Mom2Oli:
is somebody snarking on her? When I left yesterday, everything was peaceful

This! I've had my dog for 10 years. I would rehome her in an instant if there was a problem with her and DS...Nonnegotiable!

LilyRose28 · April 2012

jlthompson19:
Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

But in this case, the dog wasn't being put to sleep. He was being given to a loving family who could better care for him. I can understand getting mad over someone putting their dog down instead of dealing with him, but to attack someone for making an effort? Just mean.

scoutkate · April 2012

I agree, and I'm someone who considers our dogs family members.

Getting tired of a dog and handing him to a Craiglists stranger = treating the dog as disposable.

Being sensitive to the best interest of all family members (including the dog) and doing research to ensure the dog is placed in a loving and more suitable environment =/= treating the dog as disposable.

+SMACE+ · April 2012

jlthompson19:
Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

Well. You're wrong. But ok.

J+MS · April 2012

Agreed. She found another good home for the dog, she doesn't deserve judgement.

FrickandFrack · April 2012

I totally agree.

jandy09 · April 2012

to OP

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KJmashup · April 2012

Thanks, everyone.

/Debbie Downer

jlthompson19 · April 2012

LilyRose28:
jlthompson19:

Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

But in this case, the dog wasn't being put to sleep. He was being given to a loving family who could better care for him. I can understand getting mad over someone putting their dog down instead of dealing with him, but to attack someone for making an effort? Just mean.

I never said it was being put to sleep. But it's VERY difficult to find a "loving" home for an aggressive dog. No kill rescues won't take on the liability and any other shelter would put them down the minute you walked out the door.

And I never attacked that poster.

jlthompson19 · April 2012

+SMACE+:
jlthompson19:

Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

Well. You're wrong. But ok.

Could you kindly point out what part of my post is wrong?

J+MS · April 2012

jlthompson19:
Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

Explain to me how I was supposed to train my dog from snapping when he was asleep and my kid was minding her own business? You can't just assume everyone who rehomes their dog didn't try training. Sometimes training isn't even an option. Ollie bit Izzy in the face, resulting in 25 stitches. Had he missed her face and got her carotid artery, she would have died. My husband made the decision (it was his dog before we married) that he couldn't deal with it if this happened again to us or someone else and we had him put to sleep. It sucked, hard. We still miss him and talk about him, but at the end of the day, he was an animal and she is our daughter.

NativeNyer · April 2012

100%

jlthompson19 · April 2012

J+MS:
jlthompson19:

Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

Not meaning to call someone out, but there was a poster (who I'm friends with now) who posted about her kid climbing all over her dog. I told her to make it stop or one day the dog would stop it. Sure as shlt the dog snapped at the kid and she considered rehoming.

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

Explain to me how I was supposed to train my dog from snapping when he was asleep and my kid was minding her own business? You can't just assume everyone who rehomes their dog didn't try training. Sometimes training isn't even an option. Ollie bit Izzy in the face, resulting in 25 stitches. Had he missed her face and got her carotid artery, she would have died. My husband made the decision (it was his dog before we married) that he couldn't deal with it if this happened again to us or someone else and we had him put to sleep. It sucked, hard. We still miss him and talk about him, but at the end of the day, he was an animal and she is our daughter.

First of all, I know nothing about your situation, so calm the hell down. I have said time and again, and been flamed for it, that I would exhaust all options to keep my dog and if I still feared for my child's well being I would put the dog to sleep before rehoming-so really, I don't see where I disagree with what you did.

I'm disagreeing with Robin here that *I* would spend a lot of time and money to see if I could rectify the situation (not necessarily after a 25 stitcher though, I'm talking mild aggression, snapping, stuff like that). I feel that is my duty as a pet owner.

J+MS · April 2012

I'm pretty calm actually. You cab re read my post without a hostile tone.

superned · April 2012

jlthompson19:
Good for you. I would spend a lot of money and try everything I could.

Problem is 9/10 it is usually the child's (aka the parent's) fault if the dog becomes aggressive b/c of the behavior of the child towards the dog. Or parents freak out if a dog growls, which is actually a positive thing, the dog is simply saying "no, leave me alone".

People say "it's just a dog" but then they expect that same dog to have the mental capacity of a human and understand that "he's just a baby and is exploring" when little Johnnie is pulling on his ears or climbing all over him. How many times do we see posters say it's so cute or funny what the dog lets the kid get away with?

People don't properly train their pets and they don't properly train their kids. It's one of the biggest reasons 10 million animals get put to sleep every year.

I agree.

And for those of you who would "re-home" a dog that has shown aggression - you understand that you're opening yourself up to some serious liability if the dog actually does go on to bite someone else, right? And how do you all know these available "loving homes" that shelters and rescues struggle to find for the 4+ millions animals that are euthanized each year?

I have done my very best to take zero chances with my dogs and DD, but if something came up that I honestly could not fix with training or a behaviorist or meds, then I would make the very difficult decision to euthanize, and I would be there holding them close until the very end.

You can call me crazy or wrong, but I say it's the compassionate, responsible, and humane thing to do.

Heather R · April 2012

If my dog actually bit my kid, that is a re-homeable offense to me.

I did not get any indication yesterday's poster's dog bit anyone or was even aggressive. She stated they weren't "getting along."

OP's exact words were "we've done what we can to make it work," and that does not indicate any effort to me at all: behavior specialist, vet consults, separation of dog and kid, proper introduction technique when the kids were born (Barks and Babies kind of stuff), hell-- even asking for help here or on the Pets board.

If your kid is pestering your pet in some way (I didn't get any indication of that, either), then the parent should evaluate why there are opportunities for the child to torment the animal. Is there adequate supervision, etc.?

I really don't want to argue about it again. Especially because I am only on a break right now from proctoring a state exam, so I can't respond.

wolverine8 · April 2012

ITA. I love our dogs, but if something ever happened they would be gone in a heartbeat.

SparkleTart · April 2012

Mom2Oli:
Since I am the one who said FFS, it's a dog, let me just respond to whoever is shedding tears over my statement and for my poor dog. Did I say something wrong? Is he not a dog? Does he not sniff his own butt and lick his own balls, no matter how much training I give him or how old he gets?
He sleeps in our bed, he sits on our couch with us, he plays with us (including Oliver), he has a safe area to eat his food, he gets long walks with us, he gets treats, he gets fed, so on and so forth. We got him at 2 months old and had him for almost 3 years before having a baby. He's a part of my family. My parents call him their first grandchild. I cannot imagine the day he passes away or having to explain that to my child who thinks he's his best friend.
But, he's still a DOG. If he does not get along with my child despite our efforts and training, he will be removed from the situation. And, our efforts will be whatever we can do within our means. I am not spending our savings or taking weeks off from work to try family counseling with my dog and my child on a couch, k? That's my limit. Maybe yours is you would take out a loan against your home equity for your dog, good for you. I wouldn't.

All of this.

DLD102 · April 2012

+SMACE+:
I've seen firsthand what a dog attack can do to a person. It's awful. And, god forbid, they keep the dog and the dog attacks, it will be put down.
And and the dog that attacked my neighbor, was supposedly a very very gentle breed. Tell her and her 200k in med bills that.
Its not like someone said "im tired of this dog. I'm bored. Out it goes". Im sure the decision was not made lightly.

Yeah, I don't like you...so anything you say goes out the window for me.

ali_bl-nov05 · April 2012

KJmashup:
I'm allergic to cats, yet my mom wouldn't do anything about it when I was a kid. She said she'd rather rehome me than her cats. She was not joking. That sticks with me to this day, and I think it irreparably broke a part of me.

Creepy e-hugs. Sorry.

DLD102 · April 2012

Yep, robinsokj, agree with you from the top down.

jlthompson19 · April 2012

So we've gone from rehoming at the first sign of aggression (which many say growling is and it is NOT-it's actually a good thing) to spending thousands of dollars and taking weeks off of work? There's absolutely no middle ground I guess.

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ByeBabyBunting · April 2012

I agree too - the kid comes first, even over my love of my pets.

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