UO Thursday

Scramblersmom · April 2012

MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??

sharksfan · April 2012

MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

Um, I already apologized for my post and thanked the ladies who corrected me on the reason they are still on TB (I think I thanked them-I certainly meant to).

And thanks to those who corrected my "whoa-is-me"...off to get my coffee and making a mental note not to post in the morning until I've had at least one cup from now on...

MrsLoos · April 2012

jonnygurl76:
alison2379:
I've got a couple:
1) Introducing formula was probably the best thing I could have done. Claire gets about three 4 oz bottles of formula a week because I can't pump enough to keep us in bottles to get out of the house but my supply if she's just nursing directly appears to be fine. (She's got 20 lbs to prove it.) I have been fixated on how terrible this is and I have just woken up to the fact that this should not be something to worry about but I should be happy she and I are both getting out of the house and living our lives rather than fixating on working on my supply. (We are terrible at NIP, but support it fully.) I kind of think that fenugreek, mother's milk tea, oatmeal, lactation cookies are all overkill at this point. Our babies are 6+ months old in many cases! I think the true EBFers don't realize how it can make the formula mommies or the partial supplementers feel bad when they're talking about EBFing and how proud they are. It's not like the rest of us aren't working hard. It's a cultural thing on TB that bugs me.
2) I heard about a friend of a friend who is working and putting her baby in daycare but netting only $5K a year (and her husband is a partner at a prestigious law firm so that $5K is like fun money to them) and I judged. You're leaving your baby for 9 hours a day for basically pennies? Anti-feminist, yes. But I'm like, I don't get it.
3) Having had a boring job that did not demand my full attention, I understand the working mommies being here a lot, but how do the rest of you have time to be here so much? I find that Claire and running our lives is so time consuming I often only read 3-4 posts a day and quickly become lost. This is less of an UO than just, what the hell am I doing that you are not?

EBFing is work. It isn't for everyone but those of us that do, have every right to be proud of our hard work that has gotten us this far.
Maybe making $5k helps that mom keep her sanity. Not everyone is cut out to be a full time SAHM.
No one should have to justify how or when they find the time to bump. Who are you to judge?

I have to agree with jonnygurl. I was never able to EBF even though it was something I really wanted to do and tried really hard to make happen. It just wasn't in the cards for us. Am I a bit jealous of those who are able to EBF, yep (especially the MoM's over on the multiples board!) However, I know how hard BFing is and I think anyone who has put in the hours and hard work to EBF their babies has every right to be proud! It doesn't make me or you any less of a mom because we supplement.

MrsLoos · April 2012

Mackalien13:
MrsLoos:

Mackalien13:
I kind of disappointed that Rick Santorum dropped out of the presidential race. Not because I liked him as a candidate but because it made things more interesting from an entertainment perspective andplusalso he was the only candidate that was giving Mitt a run for his money.

This was going to be my OP, I was so excited because I actually had one and had time to play today. Damn.

Sorry Mrs. Loos. At least you agree with me

That's okay:) I was really looking forward to the Saturday Night Live skits! I just don't think Romney will provide as much good material. Bummer.

karinothing · April 2012

smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??

Yes, the main purpose of UO is to stir up drama because otherwise these boards can be boring. That has been the point of UO since I can remember (and I have been on these boards since 2006).

ebp913 · April 2012

pearblossom:

I've started using bush as a term irl. I've got mh and my bff doing it too. We think we're hilarious.

Pinterest gives me an inferiority complex as a mom and as a homemaker.

Pinterest does the same thing to me. I'm the least crafty, artistic person ever.

DoctorWorm222 · April 2012

I don't really want E to sleep in her own room. I want her to sleep next to me in her co-sleeper forever and ever. We sleep holding hands and I LOVE it! Last night I put her in the crib and she actually fell asleep. I just laid there in bed worrying about her and missing her until I gave up at 1:30am and brought her back to bed with me. I know that's terrible. She has to learn to sleep by herself, but mama's just not ready yet

DH, however, wants the baby out of his room. *sigh*

Scramblersmom · April 2012

karinothing:
smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??
Yes, the main purpose of UO is to stir up drama because otherwise these boards can be boring. That has been the point of UO since I can remember (and I have been on these boards since 2006).

Drama...OK. Disagreement...OK. Discussion...OK. But I still think it is inappropriate to say to another Oct 11 Mom to STFU and "you sound like an a**" for their personal UO. I do not think that is OK.

MrsLoos · April 2012

sharksfan:
HappyAardvark:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. At the very least, adoption is always an option. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it.
Whoah. This is not a personal attack, but this is WAY out of line. Adoption is NOT always an option, and anyone who says something to the effect of "well if you don't want to adopt, then you must not have wanted a baby all that badly in the first place" needs to get their damn head screwed on straight. I'll just leave it at that.

As to the 2nd point in your post, a lot of those women didn't start out their journeys knowing a child would not be the outcome. They made friends on the boards, established connections, and feel comfortable here. Should the Loss and MC/PL boards not exist either?
Yeah, I realize that my flippant attitude made me a flame-magnet this morning. To be clear, I know it's not always an option. I know a girl IRL that found out she can't have a child, and she decided not to even try to adopt because "the baby wouldn't really be hers." But she has this whoa-is-me attitude, won't go to baby showers because of the reminders of the child she won't have. She has plenty of money, is in a good relationship, and goes on crazy vacations several times of year. She chose not adopt, which is fine, but she expects a medal for it. I didn't mean to project my hostility towards her.
The 2nd point you make is a good one. I think Ruby also made it. I honestly didn't think of it that way since I didn't find this site until I was already pregnant. You're right, if they have already made connections here, I guess it does make sense for them to stay.
Sorry for upsetting so many people this morning, I take it back!!

I posted before I saw this. So I apologize for being a bit of a bush (I know some of you will enjoy my use of that word Wink ) But I still think you should take a step back and try to put yourself in your friends shoes. Yes, your friends "whoa-is-me" attitude is probably annoying to you. But imagine, for one second, not being able to have a child and how often you would be reminded of it. She is faced everyday with the reality that she can't have children, something she always thought would be a part of her life. She has to learn how to live this "new" life and that is a very hard thing to do. She needs to protect herself, and that is exactly what she is doing by not going to baby showers, can you blame her? You obviously don't understand her, and she probably doesn't have many (if any) friends or family who do. That is why the CFNBC board exists. Those women understand each other, and who are you to say their feelings aren't valid?

MrsLoos · April 2012

smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??

I don't think I bitterly attacked her ::shrug:: She is way off base here (and yes I saw she apologized after I posted).

MrsLoos · April 2012

smit5009:
karinothing:
smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??
Yes, the main purpose of UO is to stir up drama because otherwise these boards can be boring. That has been the point of UO since I can remember (and I have been on these boards since 2006).
Drama...OK. Disagreement...OK. Discussion...OK. But I still think it is inappropriate to say to another Oct 11 Mom to STFU and "you sound like an a**" for their personal UO. I do not think that is OK.

LOL! You haven't been around long have you?

jonnygurl76 · April 2012

smit5009:
karinothing:
smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??
Yes, the main purpose of UO is to stir up drama because otherwise these boards can be boring. That has been the point of UO since I can remember (and I have been on these boards since 2006).
Drama...OK. Disagreement...OK. Discussion...OK. But I still think it is inappropriate to say to another Oct 11 Mom to STFU and "you sound like an a**" for their personal UO. I do not think that is OK.

Calling someone an a** is mild compared to other boards and I don't consider it "attacking" someone at all. We disagree, we debate and we say how we feel. It is what it is.

MrsLoos · April 2012

sharksfan:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

Um, I already apologized for my post and thanked the ladies who corrected me on the reason they are still on TB (I think I thanked them-I certainly meant to).
And thanks to those who corrected my "whoa-is-me"...off to get my coffee and making a mental note not to post in the morning until I've had at least one cup from now on...

Sorry Sharks, I didn't see your apology before I posted.

The whole "just adopt" thing really rubs me the wrong way. A lot of people really don't understand what the whole adoption process entails. And it makes me really sad that women who struggle with IF and then making the heart wrenching decision to live their lives child free get judged and made to feel like their feelings are invalid.

Scramblersmom · April 2012

MrsLoos:
smit5009:
karinothing:
smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??
Yes, the main purpose of UO is to stir up drama because otherwise these boards can be boring. That has been the point of UO since I can remember (and I have been on these boards since 2006).
Drama...OK. Disagreement...OK. Discussion...OK. But I still think it is inappropriate to say to another Oct 11 Mom to STFU and "you sound like an a**" for their personal UO. I do not think that is OK.
LOL! You haven't been around long have you?

It is irrelevant how long I have or have not been around. I still feel that calling another Oct 2011 Mom names is not really appropriate. It is OK to argue opinions and ideas but resorting to name calling for an UO isn't too cool. And yes, I did call AA a douchebag on the BNOTB board and I am ashamed for that because it is inappropriate regardless.

CMonkey515 · April 2012

DoctorWorm222:
I don't really want E to sleep in her own room. I want her to sleep next to me in her co-sleeper forever and ever. We sleep holding hands and I LOVE it! Last night I put her in the crib and she actually fell asleep. I just laid there in bed worrying about her and missing her until I gave up at 1:30am and brought her back to bed with me. I know that's terrible. She has to learn to sleep by herself, but mama's just not ready yet
DH, however, wants the baby out of his room. *sigh*

I feel the same way. I never thought I would be this way, but I honestly don't have any desire to move LO in to his own room. He sleeps in his PnP right next to my side of the bed. I love having him sleep next to me. It also helps that I don't have to get out of bed when he gets up 2+ times a night. I'm pretty lucky though, because MH is just as much of a mush as I am. He likes having DS close by, too.

MrsLoos · April 2012

smit5009:
MrsLoos:
smit5009:
karinothing:
smit5009:
MrsLoos:
sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

I don't understand why there is a UO Thursday when people get bitterly attacked for their UO. It is the UO thread...we all know it is an UO...why do we have to attack each other's UO?? It really doesn't make any sense to me. Is the purpose of UO Thursday just to attack other Bumpies??
Yes, the main purpose of UO is to stir up drama because otherwise these boards can be boring. That has been the point of UO since I can remember (and I have been on these boards since 2006).
Drama...OK. Disagreement...OK. Discussion...OK. But I still think it is inappropriate to say to another Oct 11 Mom to STFU and "you sound like an a**" for their personal UO. I do not think that is OK.
LOL! You haven't been around long have you?
It is irrelevant how long I have or have not been around. I still feel that calling another Oct 2011 Mom names is not really appropriate. It is OK to argue opinions and ideas but resorting to name calling for an UO isn't too cool. And yes, I did call AA a douchebag on the BNOTB board and I am ashamed for that because it is inappropriate regardless.

I think you just found your OP Big Smile

pearblossom · April 2012

DoctorWorm222:
I don't really want E to sleep in her own room. I want her to sleep next to me in her co-sleeper forever and ever. We sleep holding hands and I LOVE it! Last night I put her in the crib and she actually fell asleep. I just laid there in bed worrying about her and missing her until I gave up at 1:30am and brought her back to bed with me. I know that's terrible. She has to learn to sleep by herself, but mama's just not ready yet
DH, however, wants the baby out of his room. *sigh*

That is the cutest thing I have ever heard. If either of my kids would sleep in my bed without pulling my boobs out and kicking me, they would sleep with me until middle school.

MrsLoos · April 2012

crystalbaby:
My UO is that this board would be so boring without the disagreements, fun threads, and shenanigans. I enjoy the drama that occurs on the UO thread. I love the discourse that UO and FFFC breeds and most people are good about not getting butt-hurt over the disagreements. This thread would be so boring if each person just posted their UO and no one responded.
I don't actually think that my opinion is that UO, but it seemed appropriate given the direction this thread was heading.

Yes

I'm kind of excited that I was at the center of some drama. I'm always so tame. It's made my morning a bit more exciting & I've gotten absolutely nothing done during nap time!

[Deleted User] · April 2012

alison2379:
I've got a couple:
1) I kind of think that fenugreek, mother's milk tea, oatmeal, lactation cookies are all overkill at this point. Our babies are 6+ months old in many cases! I think the true EBFers don't realize how it can make the formula mommies or the partial supplementers feel bad when they're talking about EBFing and how proud they are. It's not like the rest of us aren't working hard. It's a cultural thing on TB that bugs me.

I don't think taking herbs, eating a healthy breakfast, and drinking some tea are all that extreme. Just because my baby is almost six months doesn't mean my reasons for EBF have gone away. However, because of her age, I'm not going to feel guilty if I have to / choose to supplement (honestly, if she were a lot younger, I probably would have some guilt feelings to get over, but that's me).

I don't do it because I'm picking a side in the mommy wars. I do it because it's enjoyable, convenient, and free. People seem to go to all kinds of lengths to save future time and money, how is this different?

MrsLoos · April 2012

crystalbaby:
MrsLoos:
crystalbaby:
My UO is that this board would be so boring without the disagreements, fun threads, and shenanigans. I enjoy the drama that occurs on the UO thread. I love the discourse that UO and FFFC breeds and most people are good about not getting butt-hurt over the disagreements. This thread would be so boring if each person just posted their UO and no one responded.
I don't actually think that my opinion is that UO, but it seemed appropriate given the direction this thread was heading.
I'm kind of excited that I was at the center of some drama. I'm always so tame. It's made my morning a bit more exciting & I've gotten absolutely nothing done during nap time!
Don't lie, you're always such a bush!

You made a typo. I corrected it for you!

Scramblersmom · April 2012

Mackalien13:
jonnygurl76:

Calling someone an a** is mild compared to other boards and I don't consider it "attacking" someone at all. We disagree, we debate and we say how we feel. It is what it is.

It's ok to call people on other boards azzes right? Because I totally just called a bunch of people on Sept 2012 azzhats.

Yeah that is fine...just not other Oct moms! Heehee

ashleypembroke · April 2012

CMonkey515:
DoctorWorm222:
I don't really want E to sleep in her own room. I want her to sleep next to me in her co-sleeper forever and ever. We sleep holding hands and I LOVE it! Last night I put her in the crib and she actually fell asleep. I just laid there in bed worrying about her and missing her until I gave up at 1:30am and brought her back to bed with me. I know that's terrible. She has to learn to sleep by herself, but mama's just not ready yet
DH, however, wants the baby out of his room. *sigh*
I feel the same way. I never thought I would be this way, but I honestly don't have any desire to move LO in to his own room. He sleeps in his PnP right next to my side of the bed. I love having him sleep next to me. It also helps that I don't have to get out of bed when he gets up 2+ times a night. I'm pretty lucky though, because MH is just as much of a mush as I am. He likes having DS close by, too.

We still bedshare and I am dreading having to stop soon Crying . J is getting too big (size-wise) and he rolls all around so I know he needs his space. It makes me so sad to think about him being in his own bed/room. DH is ready, J is probably ready, but momma isn't ready at all!

sewpinkgal · April 2012

alison2379:
4) Finally, to round out my UOs for today, I am also in awe of families that are taking care of their babies without help. Even one full time worker and one SAH parent, in my mind, needs help, whether it's a grandparent or a babysitter. I'd be bashing my head against the wall if it we did not have scheduled help each week.

Can I just say thank you for this one? I SAH and H works and we just figure it out between the two of us with the grandparents watching him for us every so often. There are definitely days when I feel like we both deserve a medal, even though I think a lot of people don't see it as that big of a deal. I really appreciate this UO though.

MrsLoos · April 2012

crystalbaby:
MrsLoos:
crystalbaby:
Mrs. Loos, I think that you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Crystal, you're such a bush! Back-up off my game.
Whoa.

That's right.

MrsLoos · April 2012

Mackalien13:
vaginaface:
dramallama:
vaginaface:

Mrs. Loos, I think that you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Crystal, you're such a biitch! Back-up off my game.

Whoa.

Mrs. Loos! My virgin ears!

fuuuuck, $hit, biiitch, hell, , douchecanoe, twatwaffle, ***

Okay, now I've got to go clean up my mouth. Babies just woke up Wink

MrsLoos · April 2012

Mackalien13:
MrsLoos:
Mackalien13:
vaginaface:
dramallama:
vaginaface:

Mrs. Loos, I think that you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Crystal, you're such a biitch! Back-up off my game.

Whoa.

Mrs. Loos! My virgin ears!

fuuuuck, $hit, biiitch, hell, , douchecanoe, twatwaffle, ***

Okay, now I've got to go clean up my mouth. Babies just woke up

You better wash your hore mouth out with soap!

So the bump completely deletes cuuuuuuunt if you spell it with a v and stars out pu$$y. Good to know.

Shannon526 · April 2012

ashleypembroke:
CMonkey515:
DoctorWorm222:

I don't really want E to sleep in her own room. I want her to sleep next to me in her co-sleeper forever and ever. We sleep holding hands and I LOVE it! Last night I put her in the crib and she actually fell asleep. I just laid there in bed worrying about her and missing her until I gave up at 1:30am and brought her back to bed with me. I know that's terrible. She has to learn to sleep by herself, but mama's just not ready yet

DH, however, wants the baby out of his room. *sigh*

I feel the same way. I never thought I would be this way, but I honestly don't have any desire to move LO in to his own room. He sleeps in his PnP right next to my side of the bed. I love having him sleep next to me. It also helps that I don't have to get out of bed when he gets up 2+ times a night. I'm pretty lucky though, because MH is just as much of a mush as I am. He likes having DS close by, too.

We still bedshare and I am dreading having to stop soon . J is getting too big (size-wise) and he rolls all around so I know he needs his space. It makes me so sad to think about him being in his own bed/room. DH is ready, J is probably ready, but momma isn't ready at all!

Another mommy here who is not ready for her LO to have her own room... I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way.. DH and every other family member just doesn't understand why L is still in our bedroom with us..

Part of it is because she still wakes up frequently at night, so since I'm the one feeding her 3 times a night, why make it any more demanding on me? If anyone else wants to sleep over and feed L for me, by all means, put her in her crib. Until then, STFU haha

UFCasey · April 2012

For the Pinterest UO people:

https://powerofmoms.com/2012/04/your-children-want-you/

Shannon526 · April 2012

sewpinkgal:
alison2379:

4) Finally, to round out my UOs for today, I am also in awe of families that are taking care of their babies without help. Even one full time worker and one SAH parent, in my mind, needs help, whether it's a grandparent or a babysitter. I'd be bashing my head against the wall if it we did not have scheduled help each week.

Can I just say thank you for this one? I SAH and H works and we just figure it out between the two of us with the grandparents watching him for us every so often. There are definitely days when I feel like we both deserve a medal, even though I think a lot of people don't see it as that big of a deal. I really appreciate this UO though.

Amen to this UO!

I've mentioned this before, but we are currently living with my parents to save up money for our own house. I am secretly dreading the day we leave here because I have so much help!

In the morning, my dad is here to hold L while I eat breakfast. My brother is here around noon time to help out while I eat lunch. When DH and my mom get home around 5 or 6, I can shower/make dinner/do the laundry.

I honestly have no idea how we are going to function with just the 3 of us. I am a firm believer that "it takes a village to raise a child."

LCass · April 2012

ashleypembroke:
CMonkey515:
DoctorWorm222:
I don't really want E to sleep in her own room. I want her to sleep next to me in her co-sleeper forever and ever. We sleep holding hands and I LOVE it! Last night I put her in the crib and she actually fell asleep. I just laid there in bed worrying about her and missing her until I gave up at 1:30am and brought her back to bed with me. I know that's terrible. She has to learn to sleep by herself, but mama's just not ready yet
DH, however, wants the baby out of his room. *sigh*
I feel the same way. I never thought I would be this way, but I honestly don't have any desire to move LO in to his own room. He sleeps in his PnP right next to my side of the bed. I love having him sleep next to me. It also helps that I don't have to get out of bed when he gets up 2+ times a night. I'm pretty lucky though, because MH is just as much of a mush as I am. He likes having DS close by, too.
We still bedshare and I am dreading having to stop soon . J is getting too big (size-wise) and he rolls all around so I know he needs his space. It makes me so sad to think about him being in his own bed/room. DH is ready, J is probably ready, but momma isn't ready at all!

Lily's crib will be staying in our bedroom until she's at least 1 (or we move, but that's not likely to happen first) and I wouldn't have it any other way. We made the choice because our bedroom is big, the guestroom is where the litter box is so it'd require lots of reorganizing, and for the decreased SIDS risk, but we both like it so much that we've agreed that when we're house shopping we ideally want a place where the master bedroom can fit a crib and change table for future babies.

And like CMonkey, my DH is a total mush. He'd actually rather still be bedsharing, but I got tired of being kicked as Lily falls asleep and wakes up. Plus she stopped sleeping better in our bed than hers, and I'd rather she have a more restful sleep. But waking up to her little face was seriously amazing. . .

UFCasey · April 2012

ProcrastinatingBride:
jonnygurl76:
alison2379:
I've got a couple:
1) Introducing formula was probably the best thing I could have done. Claire gets about three 4 oz bottles of formula a week because I can't pump enough to keep us in bottles to get out of the house but my supply if she's just nursing directly appears to be fine. (She's got 20 lbs to prove it.) I have been fixated on how terrible this is and I have just woken up to the fact that this should not be something to worry about but I should be happy she and I are both getting out of the house and living our lives rather than fixating on working on my supply. (We are terrible at NIP, but support it fully.) I kind of think that fenugreek, mother's milk tea, oatmeal, lactation cookies are all overkill at this point. Our babies are 6+ months old in many cases! I think the true EBFers don't realize how it can make the formula mommies or the partial supplementers feel bad when they're talking about EBFing and how proud they are. It's not like the rest of us aren't working hard. It's a cultural thing on TB that bugs me.
EBFing is work. It isn't for everyone but those of us that do, have every right to be proud of our hard work that has gotten us this far.
Maybe making $5k helps that mom keep her sanity. Not everyone is cut out to be a full time SAHM.
No one should have to justify how or when they find the time to bump. Who are you to judge?
Ditto Jonny on this. One other thing - alison, I do take issue with your "anything to increase supply is overkill at this point." If someone wants to add a bowl of oatmeal a day in hopes of increasing supply, what's it to you? Who cares? It's one thing to say that taking risky drugs with dangerous side effects is "overkill at this point," but who are you to say that someone eating a certain tea or type of cookies in the hopes of increasing supply is "overkill at this point"?
I have a lot more to say, but I don't want to engage further or make supplementers or FF-feeders feel bad, so I'll just say that I agree with Jonny. And then

I agree. I also hate that being proud of a BFing accomplishment is somehow taboo because it might make formula feeders/supplementers feel bad.Those who are proud of EBFing or EPing are not saying that those who formula feed or supplement are not great mothers or anything else negative. They are just proud of their hard work and they have every right to be without getting a guilt trip. I am sure there are judgemental biatches out there who EBF and judge anyone who doesn't - but I would hope that by now most of us 'know' each other enough to where if someone posts 'Yay I have EBFed for 6 months!' it is not a personal jab at anyone who has not done that.

CTaylor315 · April 2012

I have a mushy husband too and we are still bed-sharing as well. I sometimes feel pressure from my sister or a particular friend to get her in her own room, but that smile next to me first thing in the morning erases everything else in my head!

Right now she naps and starts her night in her crib. Around 9:30 she tends to wake up and that's when I take her with me. She has gotten more snuggly lately too which I love.

I never, ever thought I would be a bed-sharer but once I met her, that was it!

rockdragon · April 2012

crystalbaby:

My UO is that this board would be so boring without the disagreements, fun threads, and shenanigans. I enjoy the drama that occurs on the UO thread. I love the discourse that UO and FFFC breeds and most people are good about not getting butt-hurt over the disagreements. This thread would be so boring if each person just posted their UO and no one responded.

I don't actually think that my opinion is that UO, but it seemed appropriate given the direction this thread was heading.

I'm sure this is why most of us keep coming back.

rubysue267 · April 2012

UFCasey:
ProcrastinatingBride:
jonnygurl76:
alison2379:
I've got a couple:
1) Introducing formula was probably the best thing I could have done. Claire gets about three 4 oz bottles of formula a week because I can't pump enough to keep us in bottles to get out of the house but my supply if she's just nursing directly appears to be fine. (She's got 20 lbs to prove it.) I have been fixated on how terrible this is and I have just woken up to the fact that this should not be something to worry about but I should be happy she and I are both getting out of the house and living our lives rather than fixating on working on my supply. (We are terrible at NIP, but support it fully.) I kind of think that fenugreek, mother's milk tea, oatmeal, lactation cookies are all overkill at this point. Our babies are 6+ months old in many cases! I think the true EBFers don't realize how it can make the formula mommies or the partial supplementers feel bad when they're talking about EBFing and how proud they are. It's not like the rest of us aren't working hard. It's a cultural thing on TB that bugs me.
EBFing is work. It isn't for everyone but those of us that do, have every right to be proud of our hard work that has gotten us this far.
Maybe making $5k helps that mom keep her sanity. Not everyone is cut out to be a full time SAHM.
No one should have to justify how or when they find the time to bump. Who are you to judge?
Ditto Jonny on this. One other thing - alison, I do take issue with your "anything to increase supply is overkill at this point." If someone wants to add a bowl of oatmeal a day in hopes of increasing supply, what's it to you? Who cares? It's one thing to say that taking risky drugs with dangerous side effects is "overkill at this point," but who are you to say that someone eating a certain tea or type of cookies in the hopes of increasing supply is "overkill at this point"?
I have a lot more to say, but I don't want to engage further or make supplementers or FF-feeders feel bad, so I'll just say that I agree with Jonny. And then
I agree. I also hate that being proud of a BFing accomplishment is somehow taboo because it might make formula feeders/supplementers feel bad.Those who are proud of EBFing or EPing are not saying that those who formula feed or supplement are not great mothers or anything else negative. They are just proud of their hard work and they have every right to be without getting a guilt trip. I am sure there are judgemental biatches out there who EBF and judge anyone who doesn't - but I would hope that by now most of us 'know' each other enough to where if someone posts 'Yay I have EBFed for 6 months!' it is not a personal jab at anyone who has not done that.

I FF because BF didn't work out for us. Although I am sad that I wasn't able to make it work, I do not for a moment feel bad or like I'm being demeaned simply because EBFers are celebrating their accomplishment. BFing is hard, hard work - stating that fact doesn't translate into "but FF or BF/FF are lazy" arguments, IMO. Typically if I read an EBF post and feel bad, it's MY unresolved issue/disappointment with not being able to BF, not because anyone has made me feel this way. And that's certainly no argument (IMO) for EBF moms to have to put their pom poms down.

Kind of like how I am loving the Nurse-in on the September board even though I can't participate. My kid is eating, your kid is eating, and I'll support every one of us no matter what route we're taking to make that possible.

nabum · April 2012

I think that adults who are super into Disney and take Disney vacations without kids are weird. I finally get the Disney thing now that I have a kid, but I'm not on board with the mouse love, otherwise.

And I live 15 minutes from Disneyland.

Scramblersmom · April 2012

rockdragon:
crystalbaby:

My UO is that this board would be so boring without the disagreements, fun threads, and shenanigans. I enjoy the drama that occurs on the UO thread. I love the discourse that UO and FFFC breeds and most people are good about not getting butt-hurt over the disagreements. This thread would be so boring if each person just posted their UO and no one responded.
I don't actually think that my opinion is that UO, but it seemed appropriate given the direction this thread was heading.
I'm sure this is why most of us keep coming back.

I agree that the UO and FFFC bring life to the board and I am in no way against disagreements as I have stated in my earlier posts. Disagreements bring life to the board as you have said. I am not a prude and I am not against the use of bad language either. My vulgar vocabulary is quite broad and frequently used especially considering that I used to be a union rep for the Longshoremen. I guess I am just in the minority to think that calling a fellow Bumpie names out of anger is inappropriate. I guess that just makes my post another UO.

sharksfan · April 2012

Mackalien13:
sharksfan:
MrsLoos:

sharksfan:
This may or may not be UO, but I don't get the whole "Child Free Not by Choice" board. If you really want to have a child, have a child. Um, yeah it's not that easy for all of us. At the very least, adoption is always an option. No it's not. Do you have any idea what is adoption entails?! Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made this statement. For those that say that it is expensive, so is a freaking child! If you are prepared to spend the money on diapers, wipes, formula, whatever, put aside that money each month and eventually you'll have enough to adopt. Again you have no idea what you are talking about, you should probably either do your research before you form such an "opinion" or STFU. If you decide not to go that route and end up child free, why are you on TB? Because they've probably been on the bump a heIl of a lot longer than you have and have gone through many boards, TTC, 3TC, IF, IFV, some have even spent a brief time on PAIF, and the tri boads only to suffer a loss. They've made friends here and need a place to connect with others who are going through what they are Hardly anyone posts there, and those that do complain that they are the "zoo" of TB. Hello, you are on a PREGNANCY website advertising that you will never be having kids. I just don't get it. No you don't, and your "OP" makes you sound like an a**.

Um, I already apologized for my post and thanked the ladies who corrected me on the reason they are still on TB (I think I thanked them-I certainly meant to).

And thanks to those who corrected my "whoa-is-me"...off to get my coffee and making a mental note not to post in the morning until I've had at least one cup from now on...

I think you got yourself your first flaming! It's a right of passage

I feel so special that I lost my flame virginity today! I'm just happy to bring a bit of drama. The board had been drama-free for a while.

ProcrastinatingBride · April 2012

rubysue267:
UFCasey:
ProcrastinatingBride:
jonnygurl76:
alison2379:
I've got a couple:
1) Introducing formula was probably the best thing I could have done. Claire gets about three 4 oz bottles of formula a week because I can't pump enough to keep us in bottles to get out of the house but my supply if she's just nursing directly appears to be fine. (She's got 20 lbs to prove it.) I have been fixated on how terrible this is and I have just woken up to the fact that this should not be something to worry about but I should be happy she and I are both getting out of the house and living our lives rather than fixating on working on my supply. (We are terrible at NIP, but support it fully.) I kind of think that fenugreek, mother's milk tea, oatmeal, lactation cookies are all overkill at this point. Our babies are 6+ months old in many cases! I think the true EBFers don't realize how it can make the formula mommies or the partial supplementers feel bad when they're talking about EBFing and how proud they are. It's not like the rest of us aren't working hard. It's a cultural thing on TB that bugs me.
EBFing is work. It isn't for everyone but those of us that do, have every right to be proud of our hard work that has gotten us this far.
Maybe making $5k helps that mom keep her sanity. Not everyone is cut out to be a full time SAHM.
No one should have to justify how or when they find the time to bump. Who are you to judge?
Ditto Jonny on this. One other thing - alison, I do take issue with your "anything to increase supply is overkill at this point." If someone wants to add a bowl of oatmeal a day in hopes of increasing supply, what's it to you? Who cares? It's one thing to say that taking risky drugs with dangerous side effects is "overkill at this point," but who are you to say that someone eating a certain tea or type of cookies in the hopes of increasing supply is "overkill at this point"?
I have a lot more to say, but I don't want to engage further or make supplementers or FF-feeders feel bad, so I'll just say that I agree with Jonny. And then
I agree. I also hate that being proud of a BFing accomplishment is somehow taboo because it might make formula feeders/supplementers feel bad.Those who are proud of EBFing or EPing are not saying that those who formula feed or supplement are not great mothers or anything else negative. They are just proud of their hard work and they have every right to be without getting a guilt trip. I am sure there are judgemental biatches out there who EBF and judge anyone who doesn't - but I would hope that by now most of us 'know' each other enough to where if someone posts 'Yay I have EBFed for 6 months!' it is not a personal jab at anyone who has not done that.
I FF because BF didn't work out for us. Although I am sad that I wasn't able to make it work, I do not for a moment feel bad or like I'm being demeaned simply because EBFers are celebrating their accomplishment. BFing is hard, hard work - stating that fact doesn't translate into "but FF or BF/FF are lazy" arguments, IMO. Typically if I read an EBF post and feel bad, it's MY unresolved issue/disappointment with not being able to BF, not because anyone has made me feel this way. And that's certainly no argument (IMO) for EBF moms to have to put their pom poms down.
Kind of like how I am loving the Nurse-in on the September board even though I can't participate. My kid is eating, your kid is eating, and I'll support every one of us no matter what route we're taking to make that possible.

Thanks for the support! As to the bolded, I'm glad you said this; I wanted to, but given my position as a pompom waver, I refrained. Wink

Fianschneid · April 2012

nabum:

I think that adults who are super into Disney and take Disney vacations without kids are weird. I finally get the Disney thing now that I have a kid, but I'm not on board with the mouse love, otherwise.

And I live 15 minutes from Disneyland.

Totally agree. My 35 year old sister is a Disney fanatic. I think it is a little creepy.

shediva1 · April 2012

Shannon526:
sewpinkgal:
alison2379:

4) Finally, to round out my UOs for today, I am also in awe of families that are taking care of their babies without help. Even one full time worker and one SAH parent, in my mind, needs help, whether it's a grandparent or a babysitter. I'd be bashing my head against the wall if it we did not have scheduled help each week.

Can I just say thank you for this one? I SAH and H works and we just figure it out between the two of us with the grandparents watching him for us every so often. There are definitely days when I feel like we both deserve a medal, even though I think a lot of people don't see it as that big of a deal. I really appreciate this UO though.

Amen to this UO!

I've mentioned this before, but we are currently living with my parents to save up money for our own house. I am secretly dreading the day we leave here because I have so much help!

In the morning, my dad is here to hold L while I eat breakfast. My brother is here around noon time to help out while I eat lunch. When DH and my mom get home around 5 or 6, I can shower/make dinner/do the laundry.

I honestly have no idea how we are going to function with just the 3 of us. I am a firm believer that "it takes a village to raise a child."

I'd like to piggyback on this thread.

We recently went out of town this weekend with my parents to their summer home, and I actually enjoyed myself. I had so much help, that I was able to relax.

My parents help with babysitting on weekends when DH and I want to run a few errands, and I have no idea what I would do without their help.

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