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VENT-Poor grammar is making me nuts!
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What is wrong in our schools? Apparently no one knows proper grammar or spelling anymore? Do people just not TRY anymore???
I was just over on another board I frequent and a poster asked if she SPELT something right. WTH? That's a variety of wheat, not a past-tense word for SPELLED. And that's the third or fourth time I've seen that word used over there in recent weeks.
Why why why is this not a priority for people anymore? Do they not care that they look so ignorant? I sure-as-heck will make Charles know the difference between their/there/they're, two/to/too and all of the other commonly butchered English language rules.
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Re: VENT-Poor grammar is making me nuts!
Right there with you mama! I get annoyed about your/you're screwups too. I am a lawyer and proper use of words is really important to my business, so maybe I am more critical than most about this issue.
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I'm Australian, and we use both versions, depending on the context (and, no, I can't explain or justify it!). But sloppy word use does drive me insane - when I first got to the USA, I really had trouble understanding people because of their poor grammar (not just the accents!).
I'm Australian, and we use both versions, depending on the context (and, no, I can't explain or justify it!). But sloppy word use does drive me insane - when I first got to the USA, I really had trouble understanding people because of their poor grammar (not just the accents!).
I'm an English professor, and I've instituted a new grading policy. I just shared it on Working Moms a few days ago:
Grading Policy: I will grade your paper until I run into five major errors (fragments, run-ons, or comma splices) or ten minor errors (spelling, punctuation, or mechanics). At that point, I will draw a line where I stopped grading, and you will get an opportunity to rewrite. Your highest grade possible for your first rewrite is an 80% B-, and your highest grade possible for your second rewrite is a 70% C-. Please label rewrites by typing ?1st Rewrite? or ?2nd Rewrite? in the header of your paper. Rewrites must be turned in within one week of your paper being returned to you.
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Basically, I had a college-level English class last quarter to which I had to give a lecture on HOW to write sentences, subject-verb-object. I nearly went crazy. On one student's paper, I read to the second page before I got to a complete sentence, so I'm trying this out.
I've taught at the college level for thirteen years now, and I have definitely seen the use of the English language go downhill. I'm doing my part to bring it back in my little corner of the world!
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Just looked up SPELT in the Merriam Webster online dictionary. The only definition is for the variety of wheat. So maybe you English/Aussie types are taking liberties here! HA!
I used to be a TV news producer and then a newsroom manager. I had to supervise and approve news copy and scripts. It was enough to make me go into a silent rage when a reporter couldn't put two words together to make a sentence. And this happened every.single.day.
Twenty years ago when I first started out, that never happened. People in the business knew the grammar and spelling rules and followed them.
That is one of the main reasons I am no longer in TV news. Too many stupid lazy people who only want to be famous because they've been told by their helicopter parents that they're perfect and pretty.
I feel old and crotchety when I bring this up, but thirteen years ago, college students could write as well. And the helicopter parent thing is TOO true. Another professor and I both have grade appeals against us right now, and families have gotten involved--as far as calling professors/deans and demanding to know why their "child" got such and such grade. They're not children anymore in college. Let. Go.
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I have teenagers in public school. I'm appalled at the LACK of subjects they teach!! My son's teachers have repeatedly told him "that's what spell check is for" and that it's not on the state wide standardized test. They only teach a very limited spectrum: if it's not going to be measured on the standardized test, they're not required to teach it.
Grammar is a pet peeve of mine! And spelling...don't get me started.
I can picture this! One of my coworkers is Russian, and his 16 year old son does this. He complains all the time about how poor his written language skills are all the time. And the lovely "whatever" response he gets in return.
Lurker here and late to the post. I came to the US as a college freshman and took an English grammar class because I figured it would be helpful...not! I aced the class without any trouble and several of the other American students didn't know what a verb or subject was...and somehow they graduated from HS. I spell better than most Americans (if I may say so myself) although I am not a great writer (but that goes for my native tongue as well) as far as writing great papers and such.
Our nieces live with us and neither of them can spell. I am sure texting is to blame for some of it but I suspect they don't teach it very well in school anymore. And spell check is helpful except for you still have to know the word more or less. My niece often gets the wrong word when using spell check. When we call her on her spelling she'll say: oh that's my texting language but that is usually BS. One time she wrote out cabanet (for cabinet) and blamed it on texting language even though it was the same length of word. Her sister is 12 and spells very creatively and she will spell the same word 3 different ways on the same page. She just doesn't care.
I think there was someone on the bump who required her kiddo to use correct spelling and grammar when texting her. If she didn't her phone was taken away! Not a bad idea!
When I text my niece I always use full sentences and correct spelling and grammar. Even with my friends I don't abbreviate much ("ur" drives me crazy) . My nieces' half sister never capitalizes anything on FB nor does she use punctuation. Half the time I can't even figure out what the heck she's trying to say.
nope I don't care. I notice some people clearly get bothered like you do. I honestly don't understand why you would let some thing so minor both you. I have an advanced degree. I'm very lazy about my spelling and I really don't care if someone thinks I'm ignorant because it's ignorant to use that as a measure. Misspellings happen all the time and actually there are words I misspell intentionally.
The only time it matters to me is when I'm writing my book, posting a blog, dealing with editing a tech white paper or dealing with legal documents. Writing on a board, worried about some woman that doesn't know me personally thinking I'm ignorant. Who cares!