Trying to Get Pregnant

is there such a thing as "too early for infertility treatments"?

Hi Ladies!! First post and new to the Bump! I have been off birth control for about a year, but really only TTC for about 3 true mo (i.e. tracking through free app on my phone). I know it hasn't been that long, but I also feel like I am older than normal, and am concerned that I am wasting valuable time. When is it too soon seek additional help in the way of fertility treatments like all the medications that I am seeing on here like Chlomid and others? 

Thank you! I look forward to getting to know you all a little better!!

 Also.... side question... How do I learn all the abbreviations everyone on here uses? hehe Can be overwhelming, lol! Confused

Me: 33 DH: 32
TTC naturally since Dec 2011

TTC ART since Dec 2012

Dx: Seems to be low progestrone
Drug Cocktails since Jan 2013
List of Meds: Letrozole, Ovidrel, & Follistim, Prometrium, Endometrin

BFP #1: Feb 2013; Lost 7 days later, Chem Preg
BFP #2: June 2013; Lost 4 days later; Chem Preg

BFP #3: Sept 2013; 6 wks pg; Miscarraige with DNC in Oct 

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Re: is there such a thing as "too early for infertility treatments"?

  • How old are you? if you're not over 35 (and even then, you don't go in until after trying for 6 months) yes, it is too early for fertility treatments.

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

     

    ETA: Phone apps are worthless. Look at the Newbie Link at the top and consider charting your temps. 

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  • imageShayliz:

    How old are you? if you're not over 35 (and even then, you don't go in until after trying for 6 months) yes, it is too early for fertility treatments.

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

     

    ETA: Phone apps are worthless. Look at the Newbie Link at the top and consider charting your temps. 

    Nooo joke.  IF and treatments aren't something you WANT to do.  There is no describing the toll this journey takes on you emotionally, physically, mentally, money wise, not to mention the stress it puts on your marriage.

    Impatience is not a fertility issue.

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  • The standard year is 1 year of trying, or 6 months if you are over 35.  Please do look into the newbie link and Fertility Friend (you can get to that through any of our tickers).  GL!
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    TTC since August 2011 (Me-29, DH-32).
    4/28/2012 - SA: 5% motility.
    5/21/2012 - SA: same results.
    Only shot is IVF (ICSI)
    5/31/2012 - HSG: all clear
    6/22/2012 - appt with RE, confirmed ICSI is necessary.
    8/3/2012 - First IVF Monitoring Appointment
    8/17/2012 - Egg Retrieval (retrieved 23 eggs, 3 made it to freezer)
    8/18/2012 - OHSS - hospitalized, need to wait one cycle to transfer embryo(s) due to OHSS
    8/29/2012 - begin meds for frozen cycle
    10/12/2012 - FET one embryo
    10/24/2012 - Beta #1: 442
    10/26/2012 - Beta #2: 947
    10/29/2012 - Beta #3: 2900!
    11/15/2012 - first u/s: baby measuring perfect, heart rate is right on target
    2/6/2013 - A/S looked perfect. Still team green by choice!
    7/6/2013 - Baby girl born after 44 hours of un-medicated labor, 2 hours of pushing, and emergency c-section due to transverse head.  DD was perfectly healthy at 6 pounds, 14 ounces.  We are thrilled!!
  • Hi and welcome!

    tip #1 - the newbie link at the top has a lot of good information

    tip #2 - scroll WAY down on the list to the left - there are all the abbreviations.

     

    Tracking on your phone doesn't mean much, unless you are tracking temperatures, OPTs, CM, etc... (there's your practice in looking up abbreviations ;))

    If you are over 35, I know my Dr. recommends doing fertility testing (not treatments, just testing) at 6 months.  For healthy people under 35, I believe the guideline is 10 mo - 1 year.

    If you have any concerns your OB/GYN can do a "preconception counseling" with you and go over all the information that you need.

  • imageShayliz:

    How old are you? if you're not over 35 (and even then, you don't go in until after trying for 6 months) yes, it is too early for fertility treatments.

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

     

    ETA: Phone apps are worthless. Look at the Newbie Link at the top and consider charting your temps. 

    All of this. If you are under 35, you should actively TTC for 12 months before seeking help, unless you have some underlying condition that you already know about. If you are 35+, then try for 6 months before seeking help.

    There is a "bump board glossary" for acronyms if you look to the left and scroll down. And check out the "new to ttgp" link at the top of the board for more info, too.

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    Dx = Unexplained IF
    1 medicated TI cycle & 4 clomid IUIs = all BFNs
    June 2013 IVF #1 = 6 frosties + BFP!
    DS1 born 2/14

    TTC #2 since December 2014
    May 2015 unassisted BFP ended in m/c at 7wks
    April 2016 FET #1 = BFN
    June 2016 FET #2 = c/p
    August 2016 FET #3 = BFP!
    DS2 born 4/17
  • There is a bump glossery on the left menu at the very bottom under "my boards"

    And yes, 3 months is too early, give your body a chance before you start messing around with things. I have zero problems and it STILL took more than a year for DH & I to get pregnant with the first one.

  • Welcome.  How does the app on your phone work?  Using FF (link is in almost everyone's siggy) would allow you to chart and use your temps from BBT to be able to track ovulation.  Depending on the app, it might be of no help to you.


    Bump Glossary, for the abbreviations.
    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/blogs/nest_baby_editors/pages/the-bump-community-glossary.aspx
    (this is on the bottom left side when you scroll down)

  • plus, many people don't have IF coverage (or only minimally) on their health insurance.   Once you start those tests... you insurance can label you with IF and deny coverage for it all.   It's pretty costly.    My injectibles (clomid had adverse side effects for me making it impossible to get pg on it - it happens) were $1400 per cycle.   We did 5 cycles.    That's not counting all the doc visits, bloodwork, u/s's, etc....

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  • You say you've been off BC for a year....have you been having frequent unprotected sex during that time?  If so, then you've been trying for a year so I would say it's fine to look into testing.  Many women do not do any kind of charting but they still considered themselves TTC because they were having unprotected sex with the hopes of getting pregnant.  GL!
    Lilypie - (fm2j)

    Lilypie - (YesX)

     My Pregnancy/Parenting BLOG TTC since 5/2011, BFP #1 12/3/11, M/C 12/7/11 @ 4wks 2d. Began seeing RE Sep 2012. October 2012 Metformin 1500 mg= ovulation on CD34 BFP#2 11/14/12 9DPO, EDD 7/26/13, DX Gestational Diabetes @14 wks, our angel born sleeping 3/24/13 @ 22wks 2d. BFP #3 7/4/13 8DPO EDD 3/22/14, DX Gestational Diabetes @14 wks. started insulin @16 wks.  Our rainbow, born 3/19/14 @ 39wks 6d., we're so in love!

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  • imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

  • imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

  • imageangelsnight:
    You say you've been off BC for a year....have you been having frequent unprotected sex during that time?  If so, then you've been trying for a year so I would say it's fine to look into testing.  Many women do not do any kind of charting but they still considered themselves TTC because they were having unprotected sex with the hopes of getting pregnant.  GL!

    That is a very very...liberal view of the general rule.  Frequent sex won't do much good if you're doing it 2 weeks after you O. 

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  • imageCLECyclist:

    How old are you, OP?

    I have many friends who have to deal with infertility and treatments. They would all be very glad to tell you that you do not want to wish this on yourself. I know it's frustrating and all, and I don't mean to downplay your plight - but three months really isn't anything at all.

    Also echoing (what I haven't already) Shay. Shayliz is WISE.

    Its sad you refer to computer strangers as your "friends" further proves you all just sit on here to bully and hash sh!t out for fun.  

  • just a side note:  I have Kaiser (SoCal) and the magic age to be seen before a year is FORTY!

     

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  • I don't mean to hijack the post, but I do have a question.

    I've been a lurker/infrequent poster for a while. I commonly see people refer to the 12 month/6 month rule but I'm wondering where this comes from. My doctor told me, after my first m/c, that she would see me any time I wanted to address any concerns, and "certainly come back if you aren't pregnant again in 6 months." I'm 30 years old.

    I guess what I'm asking is, if I'm willing to pay for the office visit and blood work to make sure nothing is wrong, and my doctor is willing to see me whenever... why do so many people say you "can't" be seen before a year of trying? I had no idea this was a "thing" until visiting this board. 

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  • imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

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  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    Clear issues such as anovulation have always been an exception to the year rule. However without temping or long cycles, it is impossible to determine if this is happening.

     

    Agree with only knowing from temping or longer cycles but a lot of these lovely peaches always just hash out "wait a year you are being impatient".  

  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageCLECyclist:

    How old are you, OP?

    I have many friends who have to deal with infertility and treatments. They would all be very glad to tell you that you do not want to wish this on yourself. I know it's frustrating and all, and I don't mean to downplay your plight - but three months really isn't anything at all.

    Also echoing (what I haven't already) Shay. Shayliz is WISE.

    Its sad you refer to computer strangers as your "friends" further proves you all just sit on here to bully and hash sh!t out for fun.  

    And what exactly are you doing?

     

    The same and I know that.  

  • imageMrs.Syntax:

    I don't mean to hijack the post, but I do have a question.

    I've been a lurker/infrequent poster for a while. I commonly see people refer to the 12 month/6 month rule but I'm wondering where this comes from. My doctor told me, after my first m/c, that she would see me any time I wanted to address any concerns, and "certainly come back if you aren't pregnant again in 6 months." I'm 30 years old.

    I guess what I'm asking is, if I'm willing to pay for the office visit and blood work to make sure nothing is wrong, and my doctor is willing to see me whenever... why do so many people say you "can't" be seen before a year of trying? I had no idea this was a "thing" until visiting this board. 

    It's a medical (and many times an insurance) standard. Your doctor may feel differently, you'll want to check and make sure your insurance will cover testing before 12 months (if they cover any testing). 

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  • imageMrs.Syntax:

    I don't mean to hijack the post, but I do have a question.

    I've been a lurker/infrequent poster for a while. I commonly see people refer to the 12 month/6 month rule but I'm wondering where this comes from. My doctor told me, after my first m/c, that she would see me any time I wanted to address any concerns, and "certainly come back if you aren't pregnant again in 6 months." I'm 30 years old.

    I guess what I'm asking is, if I'm willing to pay for the office visit and blood work to make sure nothing is wrong, and my doctor is willing to see me whenever... why do so many people say you "can't" be seen before a year of trying? I had no idea this was a "thing" until visiting this board. 

    Several reproductive groups site the guideline. ::crosses fingers GhostMonkey will link these sites::

    That's awesome you want to pay for it--but it doesn't negact the fact that the vast majority of couples get pregnant within the first year of trying.  Hence--waiting till you've been TTC 12 months

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  • imageCLECyclist:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageCLECyclist:

    How old are you, OP?

    I have many friends who have to deal with infertility and treatments. They would all be very glad to tell you that you do not want to wish this on yourself. I know it's frustrating and all, and I don't mean to downplay your plight - but three months really isn't anything at all.

    Also echoing (what I haven't already) Shay. Shayliz is WISE.

    Its sad you refer to computer strangers as your "friends" further proves you all just sit on here to bully and hash sh!t out for fun.  

    My FRIENDS are ones that I have in real life. You assume too much.

    Interesting..Im still wondering how you have a life because you are always on here. 

  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    Clear issues such as anovulation have always been an exception to the year rule. However without temping or long cycles, it is impossible to determine if this is happening.

     

    Agree with only knowing from temping or longer cycles but a lot of these lovely peaches always just hash out "wait a year you are being impatient".  

    99% of the time that is precisely what is going on.

     

    And where did you get those statistics?  

  • imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

    *Throws slim-fast bars*  

  • imageShayliz:
    imageMrs.Syntax:

    I don't mean to hijack the post, but I do have a question.

    I've been a lurker/infrequent poster for a while. I commonly see people refer to the 12 month/6 month rule but I'm wondering where this comes from. My doctor told me, after my first m/c, that she would see me any time I wanted to address any concerns, and "certainly come back if you aren't pregnant again in 6 months." I'm 30 years old.

    I guess what I'm asking is, if I'm willing to pay for the office visit and blood work to make sure nothing is wrong, and my doctor is willing to see me whenever... why do so many people say you "can't" be seen before a year of trying? I had no idea this was a "thing" until visiting this board. 

    It's a medical (and many times an insurance) standard. Your doctor may feel differently, you'll want to check and make sure your insurance will cover testing before 12 months (if they cover any testing). 

    Ah, OK. I only have a catastrophic coverage type of health ins policy, and I have to pay out of pocket for anything maternity or IF related.  I'm not planning on actually seeing her anytime soon but I was just wondering where this guideline came from.

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  • imageCLECyclist:

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    Don't forget to log out of your AE before you post on your other account.

    Advice won't be needed. Why would I want to interact with such bitterness?  

  • imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

    *Throws slim-fast bars*  

    Not. Cool.     

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  • imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageCLECyclist:

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    Don't forget to log out of your AE before you post on your other account.

    Advice won't be needed. Why would I want to interact with such bitterness?  

    Um, aren't you already?

    I am assuming the evil bitter ones (per your definition) are floating around here.

     

    There is a difference between some sh!t stirring and morning entertainment in between laundry, and being on here everyday as I use to be.  

  • What's with all the pi$$y posters these days??

    :::sings 'why can't we be friends?':::

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    imageangelsnight:
    You say you've been off BC for a year....have you been having frequent unprotected sex during that time?  If so, then you've been trying for a year so I would say it's fine to look into testing.  Many women do not do any kind of charting but they still considered themselves TTC because they were having unprotected sex with the hopes of getting pregnant.  GL!

    That is a very very...liberal view of the general rule.  Frequent sex won't do much good if you're doing it 2 weeks after you O. 

    There are PLENTY of women who TTC and get pregnant from just having regular unprotected sex.  In fact I don't know anyone IRL that charted.  They just went off birth control, had sex and after so many months they got pregnant.

    I'm not knocking charting, I've temped for a few months and I use OPKs, but not using those items doesn't mean a person isn't TTC.  So what is someone supposed to do that doesn't chart, hump it out indefinitely because they aren't "actively" trying?  If you're having sex with the intention of getting pregnant and not using any form of birth control then you're trying.  If it's been a year or more with no success it's perfectly fine to seek help....charting is an invaluable tool for some, but it's not the only way to TTC.

    Lilypie - (fm2j)

    Lilypie - (YesX)

     My Pregnancy/Parenting BLOG TTC since 5/2011, BFP #1 12/3/11, M/C 12/7/11 @ 4wks 2d. Began seeing RE Sep 2012. October 2012 Metformin 1500 mg= ovulation on CD34 BFP#2 11/14/12 9DPO, EDD 7/26/13, DX Gestational Diabetes @14 wks, our angel born sleeping 3/24/13 @ 22wks 2d. BFP #3 7/4/13 8DPO EDD 3/22/14, DX Gestational Diabetes @14 wks. started insulin @16 wks.  Our rainbow, born 3/19/14 @ 39wks 6d., we're so in love!

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  • imageCLECyclist:

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    Don't forget to log out of your AE before you post on your other account.

    Yeah Hayley, don't f*ck this one up. 

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  • imagebostonbluejay:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

    *Throws slim-fast bars*  

    Not. Cool.     

    So let me get this straight. You guys can hash it out but when people give it back it is unacceptable? That is how this works?  

  • imagebostonbluejay:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

    *Throws slim-fast bars*  

    Not. Cool.     

    It's okay, bbj. AE's don't phase me.

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  • imageMrs.Syntax:

    I don't mean to hijack the post, but I do have a question.

    I've been a lurker/infrequent poster for a while. I commonly see people refer to the 12 month/6 month rule but I'm wondering where this comes from. My doctor told me, after my first m/c, that she would see me any time I wanted to address any concerns, and "certainly come back if you aren't pregnant again in 6 months." I'm 30 years old.

    I guess what I'm asking is, if I'm willing to pay for the office visit and blood work to make sure nothing is wrong, and my doctor is willing to see me whenever... why do so many people say you "can't" be seen before a year of trying? I had no idea this was a "thing" until visiting this board. 

    Your GYN may do tests and such but it is no where near what a RE will do. Pretty much all insurances say you need to be trying for a year or more to go to a RE. Your GYN will probaby try to throw Clomid or other treatments at you without doing the proper testing and procedures which could result in more problems. My GYN told me I could come in after 6 months and take a look at things but I'm hesitant to do so. I'm worried that she's going to suggest Clomid and I don't want to have to say no(I have a people-pleasing problem, haha).

                                   

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  • imageKimKardashianBish:
    imagebostonbluejay:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

    *Throws slim-fast bars*  

    Not. Cool.     

    So let me get this straight. You guys can hash it out but when people give it back it is unacceptable? That is how this works?  

    lol, nothing was "hashed out". Kardashian got flour thrown at her at an event last week.  It was a joke based on your new AE name. 

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    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    Advice won't be needed. Why would I want to interact with such bitterness?  

    Um, aren't you already?

    I am assuming the evil bitter ones (per your definition) are floating around here.

     

    There is a difference between some sh!t stirring and morning entertainment in between laundry, and being on here everyday as I use to be.  

    Not really.

     

    Flat out your wrong. There IS a difference between being on here once in a long time in between doing laundry for ONE day and back from what I use to be which was almost everyday. How is that NOT different?  

  • imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    Spellcheck anyone? It is spelled course. Duh.

  • imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imagebostonbluejay:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageShayliz:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    *throws flour* 

    *Throws slim-fast bars*  

    Not. Cool.     

    So let me get this straight. You guys can hash it out but when people give it back it is unacceptable? That is how this works?  

    lol, nothing was "hashed out". Kardashian got flour thrown at her at an event last week.  It was a joke based on your new AE name. 

    image

    agreed I saw that but you "threw flour" so I threw something back..This is what I don't get about this board.. Really. If you use retarded the wrong way its all bad but they can call you a cuntmuffin or douche? It makes no sense lol 

  • imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageGhostMonkey:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    Advice won't be needed. Why would I want to interact with such bitterness?  

    Um, aren't you already?

    I am assuming the evil bitter ones (per your definition) are floating around here.

     

    There is a difference between some sh!t stirring and morning entertainment in between laundry, and being on here everyday as I use to be.  

    Not really.

     

    Flat out your wrong. There IS a difference between being on here once in a long time in between doing laundry for ONE day and back from what I use to be which was almost everyday. How is that NOT different?  

    You'll have to excuse my sister.  She's not very intelligent and, quite frankly, is a bit of a wh0re.  

     

     

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  • imagejcameron2010:
    imageKimKardashianBish:
    imageLindsRockies:
    imageShayliz:

    Why would you WANT to pump your body with drugs if you don't have to? Let me tell you, this is not a fun (or cheap) walk in the park..  

    Yes.

    Do you have any underlying issues you're concerned about?  I started seeing an RE at 8 months, because I wasn't ovulating.  But the general rule of thumb is 1 year or 6 months if you're over 35.

     

    For someone who always CLAIMS that you should wait to see an RE, I find it really funny you went after 8 months. Who is to say those woman who have tried 6 months don't O. Yet of coarse you tell them to wait a year.  

    Spellcheck anyone? It is spelled course. Duh.

    Thanks board police : )  

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