Symptoms suck

jerseyleo · March 2012

Theres no doubt about it. Pregnancy symptoms have definitely started. I have already missed two days of work because I feel like crap. I'm super exhausted. I feel like I could use a nap every two hours. I get up at least three times during the night to pee and when I get up I feel hungry. Its so annoying having to eat at 3am. The worst part is that I'm nauseous either way. I eat so I won't feel hungry and nauseous but as soon as I eat I feel nauseous again. There is no relief. hope I don't feel like this the entire pregnancy but if it helps my LO then so be it.

Mrs.Babbsy · March 2012

jerseyleo:
Theres no doubt about it. Pregnancy symptoms have definitely started. I have already missed two days of work because I feel like crap. I'm super exhausted. I feel like I could use a nap every two hours. I get up at least three times during the night to pee and when I get up I feel hungry. Its so annoying having to eat at 3am. The worst part is that I'm nauseous either way. I eat so I won't feel hungry and nauseous but as soon as I eat I feel nauseous again. There is no relief. hope I don't feel like this the entire pregnancy but if it helps my LO then so be it.

I am lucky I can work from home! Thank God! I am so sick and tired:)

Mayan2011 · March 2012

This post makes me wonder how far down the IF road you have really travelled...

So many ladies wish they had your 'annoying' problem - I would be careful about complaining so harshly about being pregnant.

psychmusetls · March 2012

Mayan2011:
This post makes me wonder how far down the IF road you have really travelled...
So many ladies wish they had your 'annoying' problem - I would be careful about complaining so harshly about being pregnant.

wow, that's kinda harsh. i thank god for every moment that i'm heaving but that doesn't mean i don't feel like s.h.!.t.

to OP - i hope you feel better soon. it sucks when you can't find relief. when it gets to me i just tell myself that it's my baby's way of letting me know they're okay and growing strong. i find that eating literally all day helps - even if it's just a two saltines an hour. as soon as my stomach is completely empty, i'm heaving.

IBackBevo · March 2012

Mayan2011:

This post makes me wonder how far down the IF road you have really travelled...

So many ladies wish they had your 'annoying' problem - I would be careful about complaining so harshly about being pregnant.

Anyone who calls it an "annoying" problem has never had a really rough, bad pregnancy. Try debilitating. Try not being able to do your job. Complaining about horrible symptoms doesn't mean that you aren't incredibly happy and thankful to be pregnant. It doesn't mean that you would prefer to not be pregnant. However, you can wish to have the pregnancy without all of the horrible symptoms.

Personally, I didn't want to get pregnant just so I could get sick. I went through ART to have a baby...that is what we all want at the end of this road. Not debilitating morning sickness, emergency room visits, back pain, constipation that is so bad you don't poop for a week or many of the other fun things some of us have. Obviously, we will all suffer through this other crap to get our take-home baby, but that doesn't mean that we should all dance a little jig (or not complain) that we are feeling like crap instead of having an easy pregnancy.

krismott25 · March 2012

Mayan2011:

This post makes me wonder how far down the IF road you have really travelled...

So many ladies wish they had your 'annoying' problem - I would be careful about complaining so harshly about being pregnant.

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

Mrs.Babbsy · March 2012

well let me tell you i have been through it all and I whine, we are entitled to whine. I can't go to work, I threw up on myself Thursday while driving with my girls in the back seat. I can't get up and function with my girls. It's rough.

Try not to jump on anyone, m/s can be rough. She said she would take it, but this is suppose to be a safe place among friends.

Does this entitle me to whine? I have been through 6 clomid cycles, 4 injectable cycles with IUI, my first IVF worked, see siggy for my little ladies. I am pregnant again only after a failed IVF in October and IVF #3 ended in a m/c in Decemeber, finally the FET worked in Feb.

IBackBevo · March 2012

krismott25:

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

I hear what you are saying, but in the OP's defense, this is the "Pregnant after IF board." She isn't posting on the IF board complaining about her symptoms. That would be insensitive. She is posting to an audience of pregnant women who she might be able to assume could be somewhat sympathetic.

Personally, I can sympathize with the OP's post and no one really knows the battle anyone else has gone through to be where they are today -- regardless of whether that journey is IF related or not. Perhaps Mayan did not mean it this way at all and it is just my projecting into her statement, but I sort of read her post as "My IF journey has been harder than yours..." Things like that get under my skin because I think we all have faced a hard enough journey and no one's hardship or journey should be trivialized even though some are definately longer and harder than others.

Mrs.Babbsy · March 2012

IBackBevo:
krismott25:

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

I hear what you are saying, but in the OP's defense, this is the "Pregnant after IF board." She isn't posting on the IF board complaining about her symptoms. That would be insensitive. She is posting to an audience of pregnant women who she might be able to assume could be somewhat sympathetic.

Personally, I can sympathize with the OP's post and no one really knows the battle anyone else has gone through to be where they are today -- regardless of whether that journey is IF related or not. Perhaps Mayan did not mean it this way at all and it is just my projecting into her statement, but I sort of read her post as "My IF journey has been harder than yours..." Things like that get under my skin because I think we all have faced a hard enough journey and no one's hardship or journey should be trivialized even though some are definately longer and harder than others.

This was said perfectly!

DebateThis · March 2012

Mayan2011:
This post makes me wonder how far down the IF road you have really travelled...
So many ladies wish they had your 'annoying' problem - I would be careful about complaining so harshly about being pregnant.

Dude, seriously? Four years of IF and I still find the nausea miserable. No one is unhappy to be here. In fact, I've been crying on and off for days now that it was even a possibility that I could FINALLY be pregnant. I'm overjoyed to be here and acutely aware of all the people who are still waiting for their BFP - but that doesn't mean I or anyone else has to be overjoyed to be vomiting. And if I were you, I would be careful to before you so lightly dismiss the very real problems that pregnancy-related nausea can bring and so harshly criticize someone.

krismott25 · March 2012

IBackBevo:
krismott25:

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

I hear what you are saying, but in the OP's defense, this is the "Pregnant after IF board." She isn't posting on the IF board complaining about her symptoms. That would be insensitive. She is posting to an audience of pregnant women who she might be able to assume could be somewhat sympathetic.

Personally, I can sympathize with the OP's post and no one really knows the battle anyone else has gone through to be where they are today -- regardless of whether that journey is IF related or not. Perhaps Mayan did not mean it this way at all and it is just my projecting into her statement, but I sort of read her post as "My IF journey has been harder than yours..." Things like that get under my skin because I think we all have faced a hard enough journey and no one's hardship or journey should be trivialized even though some are definately longer and harder than others.

i have to respectfully disagree. yes you are entitled to complain but i personally think it's more appropriate for a birth month board and i doubt i am alone in that. i don't think myan's post was a tit for tat at all. but if you noticed the OP has very little posts and may just not be aware of the etiquette. i would rather someone tell me that it's not exactly the most sensative post then to just let me keep posting things like this. I complained about my nausea to my RL people but not here. especially at 7 weeks. regardless if you are pg after IF, I'm sure a lot of people will agree that you are and forever will be sensative to complaints about pregnancy. I still role my eyes at people who try for a month and get pg then I realize oh wait i'm pg. Again with myan, I'm sure you can agree that someone who has tried for years and went through more cycles would certainly have more time to let the resentment fester. I am not saying one is harder then the other but just try to imagine how badly you felt when you tried for a year then multiply that a couple times and that is what a lot of these woman have been through. you just don't turn that off when you get pg. Just my 2 cents. I think it best on the and any IF board to be over sensative then under.

vanessagorc · March 2012

In my opinion, I don't really complain in general. I don't see the purpose. It doesn't make me feel better, and generally nobody else cares. I would never whine about anything, just not my style.

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vanessagorc · March 2012

krismott25:
IBackBevo:
krismott25:

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

I hear what you are saying, but in the OP's defense, this is the "Pregnant after IF board." She isn't posting on the IF board complaining about her symptoms. That would be insensitive. She is posting to an audience of pregnant women who she might be able to assume could be somewhat sympathetic.

Personally, I can sympathize with the OP's post and no one really knows the battle anyone else has gone through to be where they are today -- regardless of whether that journey is IF related or not. Perhaps Mayan did not mean it this way at all and it is just my projecting into her statement, but I sort of read her post as "My IF journey has been harder than yours..." Things like that get under my skin because I think we all have faced a hard enough journey and no one's hardship or journey should be trivialized even though some are definately longer and harder than others.

i have to respectfully disagree. yes you are entitled to complain but i personally think it's more appropriate for a birth month board and i doubt i am alone in that. i don't think myan's post was a tit for tat at all. but if you noticed the OP has very little posts and may just not be aware of the etiquette. i would rather someone tell me that it's not exactly the most sensative post then to just let me keep posting things like this. I complained about my nausea to my RL people but not here. especially at 7 weeks. regardless if you are pg after IF, I'm sure a lot of people will agree that you are and forever will be sensative to complaints about pregnancy. I still role my eyes at people who try for a month and get pg then I realize oh wait i'm pg. Again with myan, I'm sure you can agree that someone who has tried for years and went through more cycles would certainly have more time to let the resentment fester. I am not saying one is harder then the other but just try to imagine how badly you felt when you tried for a year then multiply that a couple times and that is what a lot of these woman have been through. you just don't turn that off when you get pg. Just my 2 cents. I think it best on the and any IF board to be over sensative then under.

agreed and well said IMO.

DebateThis · March 2012

krismott25:
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i have to respectfully disagree. yes you are entitled to complain but i personally think it's more appropriate for a birth month board and i doubt i am alone in that. i don't think myan's post was a tit for tat at all. but if you noticed the OP has very little posts and may just not be aware of the etiquette.

I've been on this forum for six years now. I have very few posts bc I just changed screen names, so please don't assume people with low post counts are new or don't know the "etiquette" of the board.

But since we're on the topic, just what, exactly, IS the etiquette for the board? If you can't talk about morning sickness or pregnancy-related ailments, what ARE we "allowed" to talk about?

krismott25 · March 2012

DebateThis:
krismott25:
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i have to respectfully disagree. yes you are entitled to complain but i personally think it's more appropriate for a birth month board and i doubt i am alone in that. i don't think myan's post was a tit for tat at all. but if you noticed the OP has very little posts and may just not be aware of the etiquette.

I've been on this forum for six years now. I have very few posts bc I just changed screen names, so please don't assume people with low post counts are new or don't know the "etiquette" of the board.

But since we're on the topic, just what, exactly, IS the etiquette for the board? If you can't talk about morning sickness or pregnancy-related ailments, what ARE we "allowed" to talk about?

oh lordy this is getting to much drama for me so i'll just say...one last time... in my opinion it's insensative to complain about this on this particular board.

jerseyleo · March 2012

Wow! Because you assume that my IF journey is shorter than yours, I am supposed to enjoy m/s. So exactly how many years should I have been going through this to give me any rights to complain? That makes absolutely no sense. I don't think I am being insensitive at all. I mistakenly thought this was a safe place for PAIF. I am incredibly grateful to be pregnant and have a healthy LO growing inside, I am not necessarily grateful for certain symptoms. The harsh reality, in my experience, and this I am SORRY to share, is that symptoms don't always mean a positive outcome. That is why I thank the high heavens for good u/s and betas not for my having over the toilet bowl every morning. Regardless, I wish every single one of you healthy babies and that those of you who have lost happiness during this process, that you find it again.

Mayan2011 · March 2012

krismott25:
IBackBevo:
krismott25:

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

I hear what you are saying, but in the OP's defense, this is the "Pregnant after IF board." She isn't posting on the IF board complaining about her symptoms. That would be insensitive. She is posting to an audience of pregnant women who she might be able to assume could be somewhat sympathetic.

Personally, I can sympathize with the OP's post and no one really knows the battle anyone else has gone through to be where they are today -- regardless of whether that journey is IF related or not. Perhaps Mayan did not mean it this way at all and it is just my projecting into her statement, but I sort of read her post as "My IF journey has been harder than yours..." Things like that get under my skin because I think we all have faced a hard enough journey and no one's hardship or journey should be trivialized even though some are definately longer and harder than others.

i have to respectfully disagree. yes you are entitled to complain but i personally think it's more appropriate for a birth month board and i doubt i am alone in that. i don't think myan's post was a tit for tat at all. but if you noticed the OP has very little posts and may just not be aware of the etiquette. i would rather someone tell me that it's not exactly the most sensative post then to just let me keep posting things like this. I complained about my nausea to my RL people but not here. especially at 7 weeks. regardless if you are pg after IF, I'm sure a lot of people will agree that you are and forever will be sensative to complaints about pregnancy. I still role my eyes at people who try for a month and get pg then I realize oh wait i'm pg. Again with myan, I'm sure you can agree that someone who has tried for years and went through more cycles would certainly have more time to let the resentment fester. I am not saying one is harder then the other but just try to imagine how badly you felt when you tried for a year then multiply that a couple times and that is what a lot of these woman have been through. you just don't turn that off when you get pg. Just my 2 cents. I think it best on the and any IF board to be over sensative then under.

Yes

IBackBevo · March 2012

krismott25:
IBackBevo:
krismott25:

i was kinda thinking the same, although i hated the nausea too and silently complained about it, there are a lot of people that lurk over here from IF that i think would gladly trade places. not that you shouldn't feel annoyed with the symptoms, it's your body, but a little sensativity would go a long way amoung this group.

I hear what you are saying, but in the OP's defense, this is the "Pregnant after IF board." She isn't posting on the IF board complaining about her symptoms. That would be insensitive. She is posting to an audience of pregnant women who she might be able to assume could be somewhat sympathetic.

Personally, I can sympathize with the OP's post and no one really knows the battle anyone else has gone through to be where they are today -- regardless of whether that journey is IF related or not. Perhaps Mayan did not mean it this way at all and it is just my projecting into her statement, but I sort of read her post as "My IF journey has been harder than yours..." Things like that get under my skin because I think we all have faced a hard enough journey and no one's hardship or journey should be trivialized even though some are definately longer and harder than others.

i have to respectfully disagree. yes you are entitled to complain but i personally think it's more appropriate for a birth month board and i doubt i am alone in that. i don't think myan's post was a tit for tat at all. but if you noticed the OP has very little posts and may just not be aware of the etiquette. i would rather someone tell me that it's not exactly the most sensative post then to just let me keep posting things like this. I complained about my nausea to my RL people but not here. especially at 7 weeks. regardless if you are pg after IF, I'm sure a lot of people will agree that you are and forever will be sensative to complaints about pregnancy. I still role my eyes at people who try for a month and get pg then I realize oh wait i'm pg. Again with myan, I'm sure you can agree that someone who has tried for years and went through more cycles would certainly have more time to let the resentment fester. I am not saying one is harder then the other but just try to imagine how badly you felt when you tried for a year then multiply that a couple times and that is what a lot of these woman have been through. you just don't turn that off when you get pg. Just my 2 cents. I think it best on the and any IF board to be over sensative then under.

You don't know anything about how long the OP tried...or anything about my journey either for that matter. You are making assumptions as was previous poster.

And, again, you seem to suggest that only people who have struggled for X number of years or had X failed cycles can truly understand what it is like to feel the pain of IF. I really have an issue with this. IF is not a contest. If it is one, it is surely one I don't want to win. It is like saying that a person with Stage 2 Cancer is less of a Cancer survivor than someone who has lived through Stage 3 Cancer. Both still SURVIVED Cancer. Both still have scars.

Ultimately, everyone has their own struggles in life both IF related and otherwise and you can not know another person's pain or problems until you have walked a mile in their shoes. For me, personally, I not only have "pain" of IF, but I have the "pain" of continued worry that my child may be born disabled, autistic and/or mentally retarded because of the particular condition I have that caused my IF. Still, I don't claim that this makes me know the pain of IF any more or less than the next person just because my situation is different. I can't know anyone else's individual pain because I have not walked in their shoes. And I cannot possibly know how severe someone else's m/s is. The fact of the matter is is that m/s can be not only debilitating, but can threaten the health of both Mom and baby! And how much scarrier this must be WHEN you have experienced IF!!! If that isn't something worthy of reaching out to others about on a support board for pregnancy, then I don't know what is!!!

I think what alot of this comes down to is the fact that some people who have not had really rough pregnancies probably don't realize how HARD and SCARY a rough pregnancy can be. Trust me, when you end up in the ER with youre pregnancy symptoms, you won't think they are merely "annoying" anymore. And I do think that IF, regardless, of how long your battle has been, makes this situation all the more scarier and I think it is a completely appropriate subject for this board.

vanessagorc · March 2012

To the poster above.... I think ur missing Mayans point. It was in regards to the tone of the post. Op isn't complaining about anything horrible, or even describing a hard pregnancy. What was described was simply pregnancy in general. That's bound to rub some people the wrong way. Which is what I believe Mayan was pointing out.

This is all getting a little dramatic. Although i do think there is a big difference in getting pregnant on ur 1st clomid cycle vs multiple failed Ivfs. I dont think u can compare those two things at all. Nobody wishes a harder journey on anyone else, but to say they are the same is wrong IMO

krismott25 · March 2012

i swore to myself i wouldn't do this but my heart is beating so fast. a) you are doing exactlly what you're yelling at me for. i HAVE had a complicated pregnancy. I'm out on disability since 17 weeks on modified activity because of a short cervix in addition to bledding from a placenta previa. the op did not say anything about it causing complications. that would have changed the whole tone of the post. secondly) i agree with you, I haven't walked a day in someone else's shoes regarding their infertility. my point was to simply say that after having struggled with fertility for almost 5 years i was far more resentful towards the end of my journey then the begining. that is me, i would assume other people who have stuggled for years would agree, but again you are right that doesn't mean that someone else with shorter time hasn't felt resentment too. lastly) AGAIN back to my original point i just think this post is better suited for a 1st tri or birth month board. so can we just squash this and agree to disagree!

OP-- my intention was not to make you feel like you couldn't get support here. I am very sorry you aren't feeling well. Nausea does suck. I of course hope you don't have complications related to the nausea. If you do ask your doc for zofran that helped me immensley. congrats on your pg and i hope you have a complication free pregnancy

IBackBevo · March 2012

Kris - I didn't mean to upset you and I am sorry if I did that. I am an attorney so I tend to debate my point rather furiously sometimes and not realize that others may take things differently than how I mean them. I think you are right and that we just have to agree to disagree on this subject. I will concede that part of what colors my opinion (like your 5 years of IF struggle colors yours) is that I have been horribly, miserably sick during my pregnancy to the point that I am barely functioning, have landed in the ER and am very worried about not just my job, but my career...and I unfortunately don't have disability and my company is to small to be covered by the FMLA or any related laws. I am explaining this only to show you where I am coming from. Thus, like others found the original post to be insensitive, I found the post about calling m/s merely annoying as insensitive. I did not mean to upset your or anyone else. Perhaps, I am guilty of not walking a mile in another person's shoes, too. I wish the best of luck in your pregnancy!

krismott25 · March 2012

IBackBevo:
Kris - I didn't mean to upset you and I am sorry if I did that. I think you are right and that we just have to agree to disagree on this subject. I wish the best of luck in your pregnancy.

yay! i love a good truce. i also wish you an uneventful 9 months!

jerseyleo · March 2012

Thank goodness this is over.

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