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If anyone had any doubts...

about whether or not the doctor hung up on me, I got my mail today and there was a letter from her written that day (hadn't gotten the mail in a few days).  She terminated me as a patient.

The kicker sentence was "Due to your gynecological problems you need to follow up with a gynecologist as soon as possible."

Ummm.. what gynecological problems?  As far as I'm concerned she's questioning my mental health since she told me everything looked normal on my ultrasound and test results.  It seems she is now using scare tactics or something for some reason.

I don't get this - I don't understand why I'm being treated like this just because I questioned her opinion.  I don't know how to process a person like this who is going to just continue to kick me while I'm down.

Gee, thanks for firing me - like I would've ever gone back to you again anyway.  *sigh* :(

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  • Oh my good Lord...that is absurd. I am so sorry, sweetie. Goodness gracious, at least you are getting out of there. I'm at a loss for words. So sorry! :(

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  • Oh my gosh! That's so ridiculous! I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. Like you said, you weren't planning on going back there.

    Have you posted a review about her? I don't know what's in your area but we have a website that lists all doctors in the area and you can review them. I look at that when I'm searching for a new doctor. If she sees she's getting bad reviews, she may realize she's the one with the problem.
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  • What a BISH! I can't believe she sent you a letter terminating you. That ridiculous Dawn! I hope you called the office and complained. Complain some more when you call to ask for your records.

    I'm so sorry you are going through this, hang in there!

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  • Wow.  Completely unbelievable.  I'm so sorry :(
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  • So sorry that happened to you!

    I just went through a similar situation when a doctor screamed at me while I sat there with no pants on because I questioned his colleagues incorrect diagnosis.  I think it's an EGO thing. 


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  • Not sure where your located (Canada or USA) But I would be calling....in my case, The College of Physicians and Surgeons and making a formal complaint.
  • [:0]  Wow.  How very professional of her and her office.  Ugh.  Sorry you're going through this.  I hope your next doc is perfect for you.
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  • wow just wow! that is unbelievable! i was astonished in your last post about her hanging up on you but this..this is something else. sorry love!
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  • imageSpartanGirl24:

    What a BISH! I can't believe she sent you a letter terminating you. That ridiculous Dawn! I hope you called the office and complained. Complain some more when you call to ask for your records.

    I'm so sorry you are going through this, hang in there!

    Even better, I'd go on every website I could find and post reviews about the way I was treated. I hope you find someone with more knowledge and less ego next time. :( 

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    Not sure where your located (Canada or USA) But I would be calling....in my case, The College of Physicians and Surgeons and making a formal complaint.

    This.

    I would send a complaint ASAP.

    So sorry you are going through this. 

  • I am so shocked, as I'm sure you are! Wow, just wow! I'm so sorry Dawn. I would definitely file a complaint.
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  • I'm not sure of the background of this...but I am so sorry you are going through this! At least now you know cuz I'm sure you wouldn't want someone like that to deliver your baby!

    Hope you can find a nice doctor who can have an adult conversation about your TTC journey! 

    But I agree w/ everyone else...write all the reviews you can, find out who the "boss" is at the practice and complain! No one should get treated like that.

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  • oooo I would be so fuming mad!  I just don't understand the point of that letter.  Terminating you as a patient, really??  As if there is no chance you will ever need her again?? 

    Im so sorry that this is hauntung you at every chance and possibility. 

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  • I'm writing a letter now - I'll figure out who to send it to once I'm done.  She is a solo practitioner but she is attached to a hospital so I will definitely be sending it to the hospital and also my insurance company as well as the AMA.  I am going to work on something that I can post more publicly but, being a lawyer, I get very nervous about public statements since I worry about slander and that sort of thing but I will definitely say something publicly as well to try to keep any one from going through what I did.

    While I'm not one to abuse the judicial system, there is a part of me that wants to sue her for mental anguish/emotional distress.  I don't think it's quite worth that but it is tempting. 

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  • imagedawn2zzs:

    I'm writing a letter now - I'll figure out who to send it to once I'm done.  She is a solo practitioner but she is attached to a hospital so I will definitely be sending it to the hospital and also my insurance company as well as the AMA.  I am going to work on something that I can post more publicly but, being a lawyer, I get very nervous about public statements since I worry about slander and that sort of thing but I will definitely say something publicly as well to try to keep any one from going through what I did.

    While I'm not one to abuse the judicial system, there is a part of me that wants to sue her for mental anguish/emotional distress.  I don't think it's quite worth that but it is tempting. 

     

    i think its worth it.

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  • Definitely write that letter. It is not normal for a doctor to behave that way. Questioning what a doctor tells you is something that is normal and you something you should do. My husband is a doctor and believe me he wants people to be engaged with their health. If it were me I would probably try to call back and speak to her very calmly about my concerns with the whole thing because I would need some sort of closure for the whole thing and want to hear her try to rationalized her response. I totally understand how traumatizing that might have been for you so that might not be a route you feel comfortable taking. 
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  • I am astonished.

    If it was me, I would not even put the time and energy into a letter, and consider myself lucky that I no longer have to deal with her. Fluck closure...get as far away as you can. It's not worth it.

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  • How ridiculous! Sounds to me like you are much better off. Good luck with your next Dr.
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  • I'm so sorry you were treated that way. How unprofessional! I hope you have a great experience with your new doctor!

     

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    I am astonished.

    If it was me, I would not even put the time and energy into a letter, and consider myself lucky that I no longer have to deal with her. Fluck closure...get as far away as you can. It's not worth it.

    Well, I certainly don't need closure with her - I don't ever want to talk to that raving lunatic again - talk about a God complex.  Plus, I don't think I could calmly discuss anything with her.  But I do think that I need to file a formal complaint against her, which I will do.  That will be the type of closure that I need.

    The mom of the GM at DH's restaurant is apparently a retired OB/GYN who practiced for 30 years.  She has offered to talk to me about everything and so I will ask her advice on who I should send the letter to and all of that.

    DH is really angry but he is also giving her the slight benefit of the doubt regarding the gynecological problems part of the letter - that it may just be a form letter that they send out to cover their asses.  I still don't really believe it but that's the way it goes.

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    Mommy to Sami (IVF), Born 8.30.13
    Surprise non-assisted BFP - 12.29.2014, Beta 1 = 322, Beta 2 = 760
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  • This should be looked at as a good thing. She obviously didn't care about you as a patient or a person. All you need is a copy of your records for you next doctor.
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  • Dawn I can't even. WTH is wrong with people. Why on earth would they terminate you.

    I agree, file a complaint and I would also make a complaint to where the hospitals they use.

    I am so sorry you went through that. Just floored.

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    [:0]  Wow.  How very professional of her and her office.  Ugh.  Sorry you're going through this.  I hope your next doc is perfect for you.

     This.. I work in healthcare, so I know how Dr's can be.. but typically it's to myself or other healthcare workers - NOT the patient.  Completely unacceptable. 

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  • Wow. That is total crap. I am so sorry.
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  • What an insane b!tch. You definitely deserve to be treated better than that.
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  • Wow... That is so messed up.  Listen, just because she's a doctor doesn't mean she's good at what she does and it certainly doesn't mean she isn't a little nutty.  I'm so sorry you experienced this.  But better now than later.  You need someone you can trust and be comfortable with.
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  • Wow. That is really unprofessional and poor representation of a business. I would ask close friends and family if they have any recommendations of a really good OBGYN they go to.
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  • *deep breath*  Feeling a lot better.  Talked to the GM's mom - apparently she was an OB for 42 years.  She made me feel a lot better about the pregnancy itself and said it sounds like I had a fertilized egg but it may have been a blighted ovum or chemical pregnancy.  She said that it is completely possible that I got the 10 +HPTs but then my betas just didn't continue going up after that so I probably had just zeroed out before they took my blood at the hospital.  It is nice to have a doctor actually say that to me - while I was trying to just go with the "I know I was pregnant so I don't care what anyone else says," I am really glad to have a medical professional tell me that since douchebag doc wouldn't even give me that.

    Anyway, she was APPALLED at my treatment and said that I should send a letter to the AZ Board of Medical Examiners and even gave me some wording to use.  She said to request a copy of all of my medical records and spell out that I want everything including chart notes, labs, ultrasound results, etc... make sure to spell it out so they don't leave anything out and to have them sent directly to me.  I'm curious to see what she wrote in the chart notes (sort of... there's another part of me that doesn't want to know).

    So, I feel a ton better... this whole thing has just been weighing on me so much... trying to grieve the miscarriage but then still having the slight doubt that the db doc had placed in my head that I wasn't even pregnant.  This retired doc said that my cramping sounded exactly like my body having contractions to expel the egg.

    Thanks again to all of you here... you have kept me from going completely insane :)

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  • Wow!!! I am so sorry. I would definitely file a complaint. I had a horrendous experience with a doctor once. I too, worry about slander, but I did review her in a public forum. I spoke professionally and dictated exactly what was said and happened. I didn't want anyone to experience the way I was treated. I left sobbing. I think you should definitely share your experience so no one else has to deal with her. I am so sorry. I hope you find a great doc who works well with you. And THANK God she isn't the one delivering your future baby!
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    imagedawn2zzs:

    I'm writing a letter now - I'll figure out who to send it to once I'm done.  She is a solo practitioner but she is attached to a hospital so I will definitely be sending it to the hospital and also my insurance company as well as the AMA.  I am going to work on something that I can post more publicly but, being a lawyer, I get very nervous about public statements since I worry about slander and that sort of thing but I will definitely say something publicly as well to try to keep any one from going through what I did.

    While I'm not one to abuse the judicial system, there is a part of me that wants to sue her for mental anguish/emotional distress.  I don't think it's quite worth that but it is tempting. 

     

    i think its worth it.

    I agree! I am so sorry you are having to go through this. No one deserves to be treated like that!

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  • Holy monkeys!!  I know that there's probably no point in this, but I'd seriously be calling her up and asking WTF!!!  I'm so sorry that you are being treated this way, but better to find out this doctor is nutso now than when you're KU!!  {{hugs}}

     

    PS  I was thinking about you today...I hope you're doing ok 

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  • That's total crap!  You should call her and tell her that she can't fire you because you quit and fire her! Stick out tongue

    Also, you can call the medical board and give a formal complaint.  And definitely put in a review for her. 

    I'm not totally sure on this but aren't docs required to tell you if there is something medically wrong?  Even if they've fired you but they already know?

    This sucks.  I'm sorry and I hope you find a doc you really like soon

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  • I'm sorry :( I hope you get a new doc that treats you a lot better than that!
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  • Wow, that's cazy. Sorry about this. 

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  • Okay, I'm new to the lunch table, but linky to the prior post please?
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  • Wow, that is crazy stupid. I would be writting some angry letters and reporting her to whatever I could. I'm sorry that you're going through this on top of the C/P Left Hug

                                   

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  • O.M.F.G.  I'm so sorry.  :(  You deserve better than a practice that would treat you that horribly.  I hope your next doc is a million times better than this.  

    ETA: There are lots of websites where you can write reviews on doctors.  Maybe you can at least prevent someone else from going through the same thing.

  • Wow, I am so sorry to ear this drama will not end! You definitely are better off with a new doctor. So sorry you had to go through this!
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  • omg that is so ridiculous!! I hope you can find a better doc. what a psycho! ugh, I'm so pissed for you! *hugs*
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