attempting to carry ectopic pregnancy to term (not me!)

beckstyle · January 2012

Just to be clear, I don't know all the details on this situation, and I am sharing this kuz it seems so crazy. I live in a small town in guatemala and there is a youngish(maybe 20 or so) year old girl on her 2nd pregnancy. She almost died with her first one(not sure why) and now she apparently has an ectopic pregnancy that she is attempting to carry to term. We are two hours away from the nearest hospital or decent doctor, so I would imagine if it ruptures she is in pretty deep doo-doo. Is she basically giving herself a death sentence or am I ignorant? I've hear of super rare incidences of carrying to term like that but its rare to have success right?! She's about as far along as me.

LindsayAM3 · January 2012

I am no doctor, but I am pretty sure that can kill her.

PrimReaper · January 2012

That is terrifying. I hope for her sake that everything ends okay with her and the baby healthy.

PotomacSt · January 2012

I don't understand... if she has such poor access to decent medical care, how did she find out it's ectopic? I believe most ectopics rupture by 8 weeks... so if she knows it's ectopic, she must have gotten a very early appointment with a doctor who has a decent vaginal ultrasound machine. But you say there's no decent doctor nearby? I'm confused.

So did she actually have the diagnosis of ectopic pregnancy confirmed by an ultrasound or is she somehow assuming it's ectopic based on symptoms?

tartaruga · January 2012

You are correct - it is virtually impossible to carry an ectopic pregnancy to term and it is ExTREMELY dangerous to even attempt to do so.

laurakaz13 · January 2012

You cannot carry an ectopic pregnancy to term. It's not possible. The fetus is not alive. I had one and had to be rushed to the ER for emergency surgery. I lost my right tube because of it.

KatelynEA90 · January 2012

PotomacSt:
I don't understand... if she has such poor access to decent medical care, how did she find out it's ectopic? I believe most ectopics rupture by 8 weeks... so if she knows it's ectopic, she must have gotten a very early appointment with a doctor who has a decent vaginal ultrasound machine. But you say there's no decent doctor nearby? I'm confused.
So did she actually have the diagnosis of ectopic pregnancy confirmed by an ultrasound or is she somehow assuming it's ectopic based on symptoms?

She said the nearest decent doctor is 2 hours away. She very well could have driven the 2 hours to see this doctor previously and found out it's ectopic. And I believe her point about the hospital/doctor being 2 hours away is that it will take her 2 hours to seek medical attention if something goes wrong.

Keri Marie · January 2012

I've had an ectopic and they kill. in history there have been about 3 babies, with moms, that survived... ever. And the pain when the tube bursts is worse than childbirth. I wanted to die.

genkidesu · January 2012

she's going to get a stone baby
https://www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk/misc/zahra-aboutalib.html

allisonmarie22 · January 2012

When my first pregnancy was diagnosed as ectopic at 11 weeks (which was extremely late) my tube was hemmoraging and I could have very easily died. Attempting to carry an ectopic to term is crazy, insane and well...stupid.

If this story is true I'd be willing to bet that this attempt ends tragically.

cookies+milk · January 2012

genkidesu:
she's going to get a stone baby
https://www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk/misc/zahra-aboutalib.html

holy crap!

marielovestimothy03 · January 2012

She's stupid.

My SIL almost died from an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured her tube when she was only 6-7 weeks along or so.

UsafWifey09 · January 2012

Yes once you get pain it's concidered a medical emergency because you can lose your womanhood and your life. Those pregnancies sadly need to be terminated. Youre not ignorant, she is..

versed · January 2012

SweetTurnip:

laurakaz13:
The fetus is not alive.

1. That is not true. Ectopic doesn't mean that the baby never formed or developed. In fact the reason it is so dangerous is because the baby does grow and that's why rupture happens. That doesn't mean that fetal demise doesn't sometimes occur before it's discovered, though.
2. There is basically no way that this girl is 18-19 weeks pregnant with an ectopic pregnancy. I don't know where you got your information, but I can almost guarantee that this is false.

An ectopic pregnancy just means that the pregnancy attached outside the uterus. There are places in the body that the embryo could attach and grow to 18-19 weeks (i.e. the abdominal cavity). There is a possibility this woman could be this far along.

beckstyle · January 2012

Like I said I don't know all the details of the situation, but from what I was told is that they are certain it is ectopic so obviously she's been to the doctor. I mentioned doctors being so far away bc of the concern about timely access to care if/when something goes wrong. I think its denial or ignorance on her part, I really don't know. I hope its not true, especially since she already has a young baby. Time will tell I guess. Thanks ladies!

bellelamb · January 2012

beckstyle:
Just to be clear, I don't know all the details on this situation, and I am sharing this kuz it seems so crazy. I live in a small town in guatemala and there is a youngish(maybe 20 or so) year old girl on her 2nd pregnancy. She almost died with her first one(not sure why) and now she apparently has an ectopic pregnancy that she is attempting to carry to term. We are two hours away from the nearest hospital or decent doctor, so I would imagine if it ruptures she is in pretty deep doo-doo. Is she basically giving herself a death sentence or am I ignorant? I've hear of super rare incidences of carrying to term like that but its rare to have success right?! She's about as far along as me.

Where in Guatemala do you live?? My nieces are from there and we went to visit the country and work at an orphanage six years ago, it is a beautiful country! I truly hope to be lucky enough to go back again some day when my kids are old enough to remember going. The poverty we saw there broke my heart. I wish you and this girl the best.

mel101 · January 2012

beckstyle:
Just to be clear, I don't know all the details on this situation, and I am sharing this kuz it seems so crazy. I live in a small town in guatemala and there is a youngish(maybe 20 or so) year old girl on her 2nd pregnancy. She almost died with her first one(not sure why) and now she apparently has an ectopic pregnancy that she is attempting to carry to term. We are two hours away from the nearest hospital or decent doctor, so I would imagine if it ruptures she is in pretty deep doo-doo. Is she basically giving herself a death sentence or am I ignorant? I've hear of super rare incidences of carrying to term like that but its rare to have success right?! She's about as far along as me.

That is dangerous!!!!

mel101 · January 2012

Keri Marie:
I've had an ectopic and they kill. in history there have been about 3 babies, with moms, that survived... ever. And the pain when the tube bursts is worse than childbirth. I wanted to die.

WOW! I cannot imagine any pain worse than childbirth. I had no idea there have been 3 babies that survived!

ZAP12 · January 2012

I lived in Antigua for a year and even though the city is a little more progressive than the smaller towns, I was amazed at how much some people didn't know. They told me all kinds of stories and superstitions. One lady even told me that I should drink a beer a day to keep my pregnancy healthy. It might just be a case of not having a doctor nearby or internet access to understand what is going on. I know a lot of the poorer ladies in Antigua never saw a doctor at all.

snickersforeveryone · January 2012

I lived in Antigua, Guatemala for a month, and it's true, it's hard to find good medical care. It's a beautiful little town, but you sure are right about the superstitions! I was sitting on the floor during a tour of one of the churches, and a woman told me that if I didn't get up, I would freeze my insides and never have children. I assured her I was fine and she got very upset and tried to get the older people on the tour (whom I didn't know) to make me stand up! I did, just to appease her...I had no idea it would upset her so much!

I hope the young lady you are talking about is either incorrect about the ectopic, or that all turns out well. They are very deadly.

ColoRxGirl · January 2012

NextVerseUnknown:
SweetTurnip:

laurakaz13:
The fetus is not alive.

1. That is not true. Ectopic doesn't mean that the baby never formed or developed. In fact the reason it is so dangerous is because the baby does grow and that's why rupture happens. That doesn't mean that fetal demise doesn't sometimes occur before it's discovered, though.
2. There is basically no way that this girl is 18-19 weeks pregnant with an ectopic pregnancy. I don't know where you got your information, but I can almost guarantee that this is false.

An ectopic pregnancy just means that the pregnancy attached outside the uterus. There are places in the body that the embryo could attach and grow to 18-19 weeks (i.e. the abdominal cavity). There is a possibility this woman could be this far along.

The possibility of this is pretty remote. 97% of ectopic pregnancies present in the Fallopian tube - which would preclude a gestation of that length without tube rupture.

My guess? Either this girl is confused and has no idea what "ectopic pregnancy" really means or she has blatantly disregarded (at risk of her own health) the advice of medical professionals. The likelihood of carrying an extrauterine pregnancy to term is infinitesimal, while the risk to the mother is clear and well-documented.

easjer05 · January 2012

Depends on the location of the location of the pregnancy. There are one or two where it could be attempted, but most are tubal, which won't work. Certainly, it's happened successfully before, but it's beyond exceedingly rare.

tiffapotomus · January 2012

ColoRxGirl:
NextVerseUnknown:

SweetTurnip:

laurakaz13:
The fetus is not alive.

1. That is not true. Ectopic doesn't mean that the baby never formed or developed. In fact the reason it is so dangerous is because the baby does grow and that's why rupture happens. That doesn't mean that fetal demise doesn't sometimes occur before it's discovered, though.

2. There is basically no way that this girl is 18-19 weeks pregnant with an ectopic pregnancy. I don't know where you got your information, but I can almost guarantee that this is false.

An ectopic pregnancy just means that the pregnancy attached outside the uterus. There are places in the body that the embryo could attach and grow to 18-19 weeks (i.e. the abdominal cavity). There is a possibility this woman could be this far along.

The possibility of this is pretty remote. 97% of ectopic pregnancies present in the Fallopian tube - which would preclude a gestation of that length without tube rupture.

My guess? Either this girl is confused and has no idea what "ectopic pregnancy" really means or she has blatantly disregarded (at risk of her own health) the advice of medical professionals. The likelihood of carrying an extrauterine pregnancy to term is infinitesimal, while the risk to the mother is clear and well-documented.

Yes . An ectopic pregnancy is basically a death sentence for one of you, either the mother or the baby (or both if your an idiot and try to carry to term). That's basically like trying to grow a baby in a silly straw... not happening. Now if she really is carrying outside of the uterus bit not in the fallopian tube I would still call her irresponsible at the very least. Poster that posted that the fetus is not alive, I am just curious as to what you think is making them grow? The cells are still multiplying which is what will eventually cause a rupture.

I have had 3 ectopics (2 on the lft and 1 on the right). The pain with the 1st one was intense and as it turned out I was 12 weeks and my tube was begining to rupture. Against doctors wishes I did not allow them to remove the tube right away, instead I opted fro a form of chemo that will stop the growth of the fetus. Turns out that was really asinine. The methotrexate failed and I was lucky not to rupture... they removed the tube.

This girl needs a kick in the head or a good slide show with pretty pictures to show her what happens during an ectopic pregnancy.

Mamasaurus · January 2012

I am wondering if there is some confusion here about medical terminology. There are four kinds of ectopic pregnancy:

interstitial or cornual pregnancies
cervical pregnancies
tubal or ovarian pregnancies
caesarean section scar pregnancies

Tubal and ovarian pregnancies would almost certainly not make it to second trimester. They generally kill the mother if left untreated. Cervical pregnancies, as I understand it, vary depending on many factors but are also very dangerous. A pregnancy on a scar, however, is carried to term more often. I think most medical professionals recommend these pregnancies be terminated, and sometimes the baby can't grow and doesn't survive very long, but I think that this one has more variables and of all the kinds would be most likely to make it to a second trimester. The main risk to the mother is uterine rupture, but there are cases of these babies making it to 35, 36, and 37 weeks.

https://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/1/189.full

Hopefully this woman you're talking about is talking to her doctor about ways to minimize her risk!

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