June 2011 Moms

When do solids stop becoming 'Just for fun'?

I've heard people say at this point solids are 'just for fun' a few times. And a post below about solids/less BM has me wondering, when does it stop being just for fun and become an part of a nutitional diet?

Since LO 6mo appt, we have been doing 2 servings of rice/oatmeal a day for her iron intake.  So this is what her day looks like:

breakfast: 5tablespoons of oatmeal/rice, 2oz fruit to flavor, 5oz BM bottle

lunch: 4oz straight solids & I offer 2oz of water (sippy cup, she doesn't get much)

5oz BM bottle

dinner (right before bed): 5tablespoons of oatmeal/rice, 2oz of solids to flavor, & 5oz BM bottle

I made a post (maybe just last week?) asking what the MINIMUM amount of BM/bottles our LO should be having a day because Im not 100%... I guess what im getting at, is at what point do solids start outweighting the importance of bottles?

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Re: When do solids stop becoming &#039;Just for fun&#039;?

  • 9-12 months. To me, that sounds like a lot of solids for a 6 month old. One issue that can come out of spoon feeding it that their tummies get full of those solids and then they cut back milk, but they really need mostly milk at this point. You're giving LO 8+ oz of solids and 2 oz of water, all of which is less dense in essential nutrients than milk.

    So, JMO, I'd cut way back on the solids and up the milk. Is your daughter only getting 3 milk feedings a day? That sounds crazy low to me. Definitely check with your pedi, or maybe an LC if you don't think your pedi will know specifically about BM, but 15oz of milk at 6 months sounds like not enough. I think 20-30oz is still what they need.

    ETA: Fixed the age. Also, Kelly Mom says 30oz on average for a 7 month old BF baby who eats solids. 

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  • My pedi said all solids are just for taste/texture right now.  Even at 12 months, she wants 75% of her calories to come from BM.  Also, I think your LO needs to be eating way more frequently than she is.  My LO eats every 2-3 hours still, so probably 10 times in a 24 hr period.  As an example, I fed her b/f work yesterday, she ate 16 oz from a bottle between 7:30 and 4:30.  I fed her 3 more times before bed (8 p.m.), then she ate 3 times during the night.
  • I think the minimum for breastmilk would be 19-20 oz.  It sounds to me like your DD is eating A LOT of solids right now- 5 tbsp of oatmeal is a ton!  Could you cut that back to 2tbsp cereal+2oz fruit/veggies, then up the bottle amount? 
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  • I guess its just hard for me to think about cutting back her solids because she does so well with them and enjoys it... Everytime we eat, shes opening her mouth and reaching for our food. The second her food is gone, she starts crying and reaching for the bowl. Yeah, about 3-4 milk feedings a day seems to be the normal, and I was thinking maybe it was low too, but Im not quite sure where I can add in another feeding? But like you said if I cut back on solids... Even when she was just drinking bottles she was only eating 4-5 5oz bottles a day. Shes on the smaller end (14.4lbs @ 6mo) but shes always been and seems to be growing just fine.

    How much rice/oatmeal is everyone feeding there LO? I believe on the box it says 5 tablespoons= 1 serving, and the Pedi said 2 servings a day for her iron intake.... Did I take that out of context?

     Sad I hope im not doing anything wrong...

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    I guess its just hard for me to think about cutting back her solids because she does so well with them and enjoys it... Everytime we eat, shes opening her mouth and reaching for our food. The second her food is gone, she starts crying and reaching for the bowl. Yeah, about 3-4 milk feedings a day seems to be the normal, and I was thinking maybe it was low too, but Im not quite sure where I can add in another feeding? But like you said if I cut back on solids... Even when she was just drinking bottles she was only eating 4-5 5oz bottles a day. Shes on the smaller end (14.4lbs @ 6mo) but shes always been and seems to be growing just fine.

    How much rice/oatmeal is everyone feeding there LO? I believe on the box it says 5 tablespoons= 1 serving, and the Pedi said 2 servings a day for her iron intake.... Did I take that out of context?

     Sad I hope im not doing anything wrong...

    Try decreasing the solids and adding some milk to those feedings. For reference, J's schedule is below and he is 6 months/23 lbs. Hope this helps!

    7am: 8oz bottle

    10am: 2tbsp oatmeal, 4oz puree, 4oz bottle

    1pm: 8oz bottle

    4pm: 2tbsp oatmeal, 4oz puree, 4oz bottle

    7pm: 8oz bottle

     

  • I feed Max baby food twice a day right now and the boy dive bomps the spoon and won't stop eating until the jar is empty.  I'm going to have to start adding in a 3rd feeding soon.

    As for BM/Formula average amounts for the day, I think, range from 24-32oz a day at 6 months.  I'm going to double check some of my paperwork after I post this and I'll edit it if I'm wrong.

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  • Like others have said, I would cut back on the solids.  Macy can barely even finish one homemade cube of food (~1 Tbsp) twice a day, I can't imagine her eating 5 Tbsp of cereal!!  Some days, we only manage to even offer solids once a day.  She still eats from the breast at least 9 times a day (this includes her continued over-night feedings, ugh).  From what I understand, BM/formula should still be the majority of their diet until age 1. 
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  • I would try to increase her BM also, I think they should have 4 bottle feedings at this age so maybe if you focus on adding one more that would be enough.  Haven't had our 6 mo appt yet, but DD is having 4 bottles a day (6-8oz FF) and 2 feedings of solids.  For the feedings with solids, I have her drink 6oz formula first, then solids, then offer the remaining 2oz of her bottle (which she often doesn't finish). 

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  • I agree with others, I'd decrease the solids. I've heard, if baby still seems hungry, at this age, offer more milk. Sounds like your LO is on a breakfast, lunch, dinner schedule...I'd add at least one milk feeding, maybe 2, in between those feedings.  Solids are mostly for fun up until 1 year, formula or BM should be the main source of nutrition until then. I can't remember the exact source, but recently I read a minimum of 24oz milk, and a max of 8oz solids at this age. I can dig up the info later when I have time....it may have been kellymom and wholesomebabyfoods.com.
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    Like others have said, I would cut back on the solids.  Macy can barely even finish one homemade cube of food (~1 Tbsp) twice a day, I can't imagine her eating 5 Tbsp of cereal!!  Some days, we only manage to even offer solids once a day.  She still eats from the breast at least 9 times a day (this includes her continued over-night feedings, ugh).  From what I understand, BM/formula should still be the majority of their diet until age 1. 

    This is my DD exactly.

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  • I would just make sure to give bm first and then offer solids 45 or more after. That way, her tummy will be full from milk and she will just snack on the solids instead of snacking on the milk and filling up on the solids. I currently feed my little guy solids twice a day and our schedule goes something like this: 8am 8 oz bottle, 12ish 8oz bottle, 12:45 ish solids, 4pm 8 oz bottle, 6ish solids, 7:30 8 oz bottle. My oldest was on table food 3 times a day by 8 months and gradually decreased to 24 oz of milk which he did until 1 year.
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  • Looks like I'll have to decrease her solids a bit. Or just add an extra bottle feeding somewhere in the day. Thank you ladies for all your help... Its really appreciated. I guess I'd better call the Pedi Monday. I feel like a crappy Momma now Tongue Tied
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  • You are not a crappy momma!!  You just need to increase her milk a bit.
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    Looks like I'll have to decrease her solids a bit. Or just add an extra bottle feeding somewhere in the day. Thank you ladies for all your help... Its really appreciated. I guess I'd better call the Pedi Monday. I feel like a crappy Momma now Tongue Tied

    No, you're a good Momma for caring and trying to do the best for her. We all make mistakes; no one is the perfect parent. You're going to change what you're doing to make it better. That's how parenting goes. We figure it out as we go along :)  

  • imagemilesc:
    Looks like I'll have to decrease her solids a bit. Or just add an extra bottle feeding somewhere in the day. Thank you ladies for all your help... Its really appreciated. I guess I'd better call the Pedi Monday. I feel like a crappy Momma now Tongue Tied
    I'd definitely call your pedi.

     Mine told me MUCH different information than what was said here.

    Mine wanted us to decrease his Formula to ~24-30oz a day )Down from ~40oz a day) and increase solids a lot more. She wants him eating solids breakfast lunch and dinner with 3- 8oz bottles given throughout the day.

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  • imagelauros7776:
    I would just make sure to give bm first and then offer solids 45 or more after. That way, her tummy will be full from milk and she will just snack on the solids instead of snacking on the milk and filling up on the solids. I currently feed my little guy solids twice a day and our schedule goes something like this: 8am 8 oz bottle, 12ish 8oz bottle, 12:45 ish solids, 4pm 8 oz bottle, 6ish solids, 7:30 8 oz bottle. My oldest was on table food 3 times a day by 8 months and gradually decreased to 24 oz of milk which he did until 1  year.

    This. Always, always feed breast milk first. Also, because your breast milk is so freaking amazing, your baby only needs about 4 oz of it in a bottle at one time. They never really need to increase their ounces as long as it is pretty recently pumped milk because as your baby grows,  your breast milk changes to suit their needs WITHOUT having to increase ounces. At least is what i read on Kellymom. So, when I feed Molly milk from my stash and it is 2 months old she probably DOES need more ounces than if I gave her milk that I pumped 2 days ago.

    You can also skip the purees and try letting her feed herself a la baby led weaning. We 'cheat' and use a mesh feeder. Molly loves it because she can hold something and chew on it which is all she wants. I am certain if I fed her purees she would eat 'more' but she doesn't need it. She just wants to satisfy her chewing/sucking need at this point. 

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  • You are NOT a crappy mom, so don't say it.

    From the sounds of some of the PPs, my LO eats a lot more solids than your average baby, I guess.  Maybe yours is the same.  But I agreed with PPs in that you should offer the bottle first, THEN dive into her solids meal.  Then maybe add in a bottle somewhere.  A "2nd breakfast", maybe?  Or a "pre-breakfast?" Our schedule looks like this if it helps:

    5am:  Nurses

    9:30am: 8oz bottle, fruit and small amount of oatmeal cereal at daycare (I usually don't offer solids for breakfast when he's at home with me.  I'll just do an extra nursing session between 9 and noon instead).  

    12ish:  3oz veggies, 1-2oz fruit,  oatmeal cereal (usually eyeballed?  maybe 3T?)

    2:30pm: 5-8oz bottle

    6:00pm: Nurses, then 2-3oz veggie, 1-2oz fruit, oatmeal.  Sometimes I have to go and get a little more.  

    8:00pm: Nurse before bed.  

    I assume he gets at least 8oz from a nursing session as any time he's not with me during those times, he eats an 8oz bottle.  Even if your LO was eating 4-5oz bottles instead of 8, she'd still be getting at least 20oz of milk a day, which is what PPs say is plenty (I've never done the research).   

     

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