Sad News...Duggar Miscarriage

allisonmarie22 · December 2011

I think the Duggars are a little on the crazy side, but regardless this story saddens me. No woman should have to lose a child.

https://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20552173,00.html

venussapphire · December 2011

Wow I know that every miscarriage is hard, but one in the second trimester when you feel like you are "safe" is horrible.

babymomma623 · December 2011

That is so sad! I cant imagine going in for the AS at 20 weeks and learning that.

jeffnstef · December 2011

that's sad...no one should have to go through that.

sunflowergrl · December 2011

That's so sad.

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OO cupcakes OO · December 2011

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

Natalie&Mark · December 2011

...and silly me was worried about telling too many people in case something went wrong. This woman has nowhere to run or hide where people won't know that she was pregnant.

mel101 · December 2011

Awww that is terrible

kdjudd · December 2011

That's terrible news. I feel so bad for her...

sassafras007 · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?

stemms8810 · December 2011

Very sad and halfway through the pregnancy. How devastating.

kellbelle618 · December 2011

How awful.

Sovello · December 2011

I can't imagine. I had a cousin and a friend who both lost babies at 5 months

Looks like she's done pretty well though... only two M/Cs out of 21 pregnancies.

Hkaye · December 2011

That is so sad I went in for a routine a appt to hear the hearbeat and the same thing happend so I know how horrible of a feeling that is.

babycatton · December 2011

I think the point on this is that she is 45 years old and she and her baby almost died the last time she tried to have a kid and she just keeps going. I have to agree 100% with this!

allisonmarie22 · December 2011

Sovello:
I can't imagine. I had a cousin and a friend who both lost babies at 5 months
Looks like she's done pretty well though... only two M/Cs out of 21 pregnancies.

1. Some of her kids were multiples so she hasn't been pregnant 21 times.

2. No matter if you've had 1 pregnancy or 20, a miscarriage never gets any easier and I'm sure she and her family aren't looking at this loss as an "oh well, she's had lots of other kids" kind of thing.

Sovello · December 2011

allisonmarie22:
Sovello:
I can't imagine. I had a cousin and a friend who both lost babies at 5 months
Looks like she's done pretty well though... only two M/Cs out of 21 pregnancies.
1. Some of her kids were multiples so she hasn't been pregnant 21 times.
2. No matter if you've had 1 pregnancy or 20, a miscarriage never gets any easier and I'm sure she and her family aren't looking at this loss as an "oh well, she's had lots of other kids" kind of thing.

*shrugs* I'd never even heard of the woman before this thread. And yeah, I've M/Cd too so I don't need the lecture.

sassafras007 · December 2011

Sovello:
allisonmarie22:
Sovello:

I can't imagine. I had a cousin and a friend who both lost babies at 5 months

Looks like she's done pretty well though... only two M/Cs out of 21 pregnancies.

1. Some of her kids were multiples so she hasn't been pregnant 21 times.

2. No matter if you've had 1 pregnancy or 20, a miscarriage never gets any easier and I'm sure she and her family aren't looking at this loss as an "oh well, she's had lots of other kids" kind of thing.

*shrugs* I'd never even heard of the woman before this thread. And yeah, I've M/Cd too so I don't need the lecture.

Where have you been hiding?

Sovello · December 2011

sassafras007:
Sovello:
allisonmarie22:
Sovello:

I can't imagine. I had a cousin and a friend who both lost babies at 5 months

Looks like she's done pretty well though... only two M/Cs out of 21 pregnancies.

1. Some of her kids were multiples so she hasn't been pregnant 21 times.

2. No matter if you've had 1 pregnancy or 20, a miscarriage never gets any easier and I'm sure she and her family aren't looking at this loss as an "oh well, she's had lots of other kids" kind of thing.

*shrugs* I'd never even heard of the woman before this thread. And yeah, I've M/Cd too so I don't need the lecture.

Where have you been hiding?

I don't get TV on my TV lol, it's not connected to anything except a media computer that we use to play movies and episodes of Fringe

OO cupcakes OO · December 2011

sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?

I've had 3 m/c's, lost a twin, and have had quite a few scares with this pregnancy. Don't pull the 'I've had a m/c and a preemie' card on me. I'm not saying m/c is a reason to stop trying; otherwise I wouldn't be trying.

BUT I don't have 19 children. I'm assuming you don't have 19 children. I'm not saying a m/c is reason not to try for another child. I'm saying maybe having 19 children is a reason to stop trying. I feel like she's doing this for attention and publicity- not bc she really truly wants that many children. I know, I know... 'I don't know her lyfe!' Sorry, not a fan of the Duggar family. That's not to say I don't feel sorry for their loss.

I don't know why I get so heated about this... reality TV bugs me.

Oem617 · December 2011

Aww... that is sad!

sassafras007 · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:
sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?

I've had 3 m/c's, lost a twin, and have had quite a few scares with this pregnancy. Don't pull the 'I've had a m/c and a preemie' card on me. I'm not saying m/c is a reason to stop trying; otherwise I wouldn't be trying.

BUT I don't have 19 children. I'm assuming you don't have 19 children. I'm not saying a m/c is reason not to try for another child. I'm saying maybe having 19 children is a reason to stop trying. I feel like she's doing this for attention and publicity- not bc she really truly wants that many children. I know, I know... 'I don't know her lyfe!' Sorry, not a fan of the Duggar family. That's not to say I don't feel sorry for their loss.

I don't know why I get so heated about this... reality TV bugs me.

You win?!?!

venussapphire · December 2011

sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:
sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?

I've had 3 m/c's, lost a twin, and have had quite a few scares with this pregnancy. Don't pull the 'I've had a m/c and a preemie' card on me. I'm not saying m/c is a reason to stop trying; otherwise I wouldn't be trying.

BUT I don't have 19 children. I'm assuming you don't have 19 children. I'm not saying a m/c is reason not to try for another child. I'm saying maybe having 19 children is a reason to stop trying. I feel like she's doing this for attention and publicity- not bc she really truly wants that many children. I know, I know... 'I don't know her lyfe!' Sorry, not a fan of the Duggar family. That's not to say I don't feel sorry for their loss.

I don't know why I get so heated about this... reality TV bugs me.

You win?!?!

She's also 45, 46 when the baby was supposed to be born.

sassafras007 · December 2011

venussapphire:
sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:
sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

and?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?

I've had 3 m/c's, lost a twin, and have had quite a few scares with this pregnancy. Don't pull the 'I've had a m/c and a preemie' card on me. I'm not saying m/c is a reason to stop trying; otherwise I wouldn't be trying.

BUT I don't have 19 children. I'm assuming you don't have 19 children. I'm not saying a m/c is reason not to try for another child. I'm saying maybe having 19 children is a reason to stop trying. I feel like she's doing this for attention and publicity- not bc she really truly wants that many children. I know, I know... 'I don't know her lyfe!' Sorry, not a fan of the Duggar family. That's not to say I don't feel sorry for their loss.

I don't know why I get so heated about this... reality TV bugs me.

You win?!?!

She's also 45, 46 when the baby was supposed to be born.

Cercamom2011 · December 2011

I saw the story earlier and it does sadden me. Like OP said, no one should lose a child (regardless of how many they already have).

tara430 · December 2011

It's always so sad to hear about a loss

OO cupcakes OO · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:
sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?
I've had 3 m/c's, lost a twin, and have had quite a few scares with this pregnancy. Don't pull the 'I've had a m/c and a preemie' card on me. I'm not saying m/c is a reason to stop trying; otherwise I wouldn't be trying.
BUT I don't have 19 children. I'm assuming you don't have 19 children. I'm not saying a m/c is reason not to try for another child. I'm saying maybe having 19 children is a reason to stop trying. I feel like she's doing this for attention and publicity- not bc she really truly wants that many children. I know, I know... 'I don't know her lyfe!' Sorry, not a fan of the Duggar family. That's not to say I don't feel sorry for their loss.
I don't know why I get so heated about this... reality TV bugs me.

I'm not trying to win anything- I'm just pointing out that I myself am trying again after a loss. So, to answer your questions, no, I don't think you should stop trying bc you've had a m/c and a preemie. Obviously.

I am against someone who is pushing her body and risking the health of her future children bc she wants to see how many kids she can have (and don't bother trying to tell me that's not what she's doing.)

Also, as PP pointed out, everyone knows having children gets riskier with age. At 45 it just seems irresponsible to risk it when you have so many children. What if something were to happen to her? She'd be leaving all these kids without a mother. Say what you will, the whole thing is just effed up.

Before someone flips out- I'm not saying you shouldn't be having children if you're 45.... I'm saying if you're 45 and have 19 children you should not be trying to have more.

She wins. Who the hell has 19 kids????????

TaylorandMel · December 2011

Very Sad.

MDmama519 · December 2011

Call me crazy but, I like the Duggars. If it's their mission from God to have buttloads of kids..atleast they are being raised to be good human beings. God knows we need good hearted people these days. I'd rather have a million Duggar kids than 8 Gosselin kids.

This is devastating news for Michelle and their family. And such a late loss =(

Anyone who doesn't think this is a tragedy does not have a heart.

Cozfijibride · December 2011

I think its crazy she is risking her life for having more children. I feel it's irresponsible because of what happened last time (although I do not actually know what happened with the last pregnancy). All those kids wouldn't have a mother.

As someone who had a VERY late loss (21 weeks) I can't stand people who make announcements prior to viability. If it were up to me I wouldn't tell people till the baby is here..Sadly, life does that to you

OO cupcakes OO · December 2011

MDmama519:
Call me crazy but, I like the Duggars. If it's their mission from God to have buttloads of kids..atleast they are being raised to be good human beings. God knows we need good hearted people these days. I'd rather have a million Duggar kids than 8 Gosselin kids.
This is devastating news for Michelle and their family. And such a late loss =(
Anyone who doesn't think this is a tragedy does not have a heart.

No one said her loss wasn't a tragedy or that she deserved this. No one does.

Her parenting choices are a separate issue from her loss, but there are plenty of people who agree that her choice to continue to TTC is risky to her future children and herself. I hope for her kids, both current and future, that everything works out for them in the future and everyone stays healthy. I hope her current children don't have to feel the pain of growing up without a mother bc theirs didn't know when to stop pushing herself. That would be a tragedy.

jolynn326 · December 2011

Cozfijibride:

I think its crazy she is risking her life for having more children. I feel it's irresponsible because of what happened last time (although I do not actually know what happened with the last pregnancy). All those kids wouldn't have a mother.

As someone who had a VERY late loss (21 weeks) I can't stand people who make announcements prior to viability. If it were up to me I wouldn't tell people till the baby is here..Sadly, life does that to you

I want to preface this by saying that I am so sorry for your loss...

Okay, lurker here, but come on now... Do you routinely form opinions on things you admit you know nothing about?

FWIW, with Josie, she had pre-e. Pre-e can happen again, for sure. Or, it might now. She had it with one of her first few pregnancies and then went on to have several more pregnancies unaffected by Pre-e.

AND, if someone had pre-e with their first child, few people would recommend they not try for their 2nd...

And, I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, leaving my daughter motherless. No one is promised anything. You live each day, one at a time.

MDmama519 · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:
MDmama519:
Call me crazy but, I like the Duggars. If it's their mission from God to have buttloads of kids..atleast they are being raised to be good human beings. God knows we need good hearted people these days. I'd rather have a million Duggar kids than 8 Gosselin kids.
This is devastating news for Michelle and their family. And such a late loss =(
Anyone who doesn't think this is a tragedy does not have a heart.
No one said her loss wasn't a tragedy or that she deserved this. No one does.

I didn't say anyone did. On here anyway.

But, it's pretty well plastered all over the article and Facebook at this point. Those people do not have a heart.

Nicolewinsbingo · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:
Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.
It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

Have you ever watched the show or listened to the Duggar's reasoning for having this many children? They have a very strong religious belief that it is WRONG to use birth control. A notion that is not actually that uncommon (not that I believe it myself). They can't just "stop" without compromising their religious beliefs, beliefs which they are entitled to have in this country.

Personally, I think its refreshing to see someone actually follow through on their own religious beliefs. How many people do you know who believe its wrong to do something, except when it happens to benefit them? (I.e. "I believe its always wrong to use birth control...except now I'm ready to be done having kids so its okay.")

Nicolewinsbingo · December 2011

Cozfijibride:
I think its crazy she is risking her life for having more children. I feel it's irresponsible because of what happened last time (although I do not actually know what happened with the last pregnancy). All those kids wouldn't have a mother.
As someone who had a VERY late loss (21 weeks) I can't stand people who make announcements prior to viability. If it were up to me I wouldn't tell people till the baby is here..Sadly, life does that to you

First, I'm so sorry for your loss. I was just wondering...do you find it practical to not announce pregnancy until 23+ weeks pregnant? The majority of women are showing quite obviously by that point, so why not announce? People already know by then.

PunkRockPrincess1313 · December 2011

Sovello:
sassafras007:
Sovello:
allisonmarie22:
Sovello:

I can't imagine. I had a cousin and a friend who both lost babies at 5 months

Looks like she's done pretty well though... only two M/Cs out of 21 pregnancies.

1. Some of her kids were multiples so she hasn't been pregnant 21 times.

2. No matter if you've had 1 pregnancy or 20, a miscarriage never gets any easier and I'm sure she and her family aren't looking at this loss as an "oh well, she's had lots of other kids" kind of thing.

*shrugs* I'd never even heard of the woman before this thread. And yeah, I've M/Cd too so I don't need the lecture.

Where have you been hiding?

I don't get TV on my TV lol, it's not connected to anything except a media computer that we use to play movies and episodes of Fringe

Woot for the media computer!! haha ...we have that set up too (but also have cable) ...and a bigger woot for Fringe! I am about to get my guy started on this show....I love it.

As for the Duggar miscarriage...yes...sucks to have to go through this... a lot of women have (myself included) and we have been lucky enough to been able to do it in private ...so I feel for her being a public figure. But...I have other issues with how many kids they already have *shrug*

I hope she recovers well...and that the public gives her enough peace and privacy to handle this situation.

RN4Babies81 · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:
OO cupcakes OO:
sassafras007:
OO cupcakes OO:

Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.

It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

I understand their situation is a lot different than mine but it really bugs me when people say stuff like this.

I have had a miscarriage and a preemie... should I not want to have more kids or be pregnant now?
I've had 3 m/c's, lost a twin, and have had quite a few scares with this pregnancy. Don't pull the 'I've had a m/c and a preemie' card on me. I'm not saying m/c is a reason to stop trying; otherwise I wouldn't be trying.
BUT I don't have 19 children. I'm assuming you don't have 19 children. I'm not saying a m/c is reason not to try for another child. I'm saying maybe having 19 children is a reason to stop trying. I feel like she's doing this for attention and publicity- not bc she really truly wants that many children. I know, I know... 'I don't know her lyfe!' Sorry, not a fan of the Duggar family. That's not to say I don't feel sorry for their loss.
I don't know why I get so heated about this... reality TV bugs me.
I'm not trying to win anything- I'm just pointing out that I myself am trying again after a loss. So, to answer your questions, no, I don't think you should stop trying bc you've had a m/c and a preemie. Obviously.
I am against someone who is pushing her body and risking the health of her future children bc she wants to see how many kids she can have (and don't bother trying to tell me that's not what she's doing.)
Also, as PP pointed out, everyone knows having children gets riskier with age. At 45 it just seems irresponsible to risk it when you have so many children. What if something were to happen to her? She'd be leaving all these kids without a mother. Say what you will, the whole thing is just effed up.
Before someone flips out- I'm not saying you shouldn't be having children if you're 45.... I'm saying if you're 45 and have 19 children you should not be trying to have more.
She wins. Who the hell has 19 kids????????

I totally agree with you. Her risk for uterine rupture and so many other pregnancy complications that could end badly for her or her baby is significantly increased due to her age and how many children she has had. It is amazing there is anything left of her uterus at all. I couldn't agree more with everything you've said!!

barnwife · December 2011

OO cupcakes OO:

but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?

First, how awful all m/c are. They are in my t&ps.

And to this pp...Really? Really? The Duggars don't tell you how many kids to have.

Why weren't you content with 0? Maybe they think you should stop after 1.

For the record, I don't care how many kids the Duggars or you or anyone else has as long as you can provide for them, I just think your comment was incredibly insensitive and rude.

acooper18 · December 2011

Nicolewinsbingo:
OO cupcakes OO:
Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.
It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?
Have you ever watched the show or listened to the Duggar's reasoning for having this many children? They have a very strong religious belief that it is WRONG to use birth control. A notion that is not actually that uncommon (not that I believe it myself). They can't just "stop" without compromising their religious beliefs, beliefs which they are entitled to have in this country.
Personally, I think its refreshing to see someone actually follow through on their own religious beliefs. How many people do you know who believe its wrong to do something, except when it happens to benefit them? (I.e. "I believe its always wrong to use birth control...except now I'm ready to be done having kids so its okay.")

I believe this says it all.

acooper18 · December 2011

Nicolewinsbingo:
OO cupcakes OO:
Considering all the pregnancies she's had 2 m/c's is beating the odds. If 1 in 4 pregnancies end in m/c; she's done pretty well for herself. Hell, I've had 3 out of 4 end in m/c so far. And I have 0 kids.
It's always sad when a loss happens, especially later losses, but I really wish she would just take this as a sign that it's time to stop pushing her body. It wouldn't surprise me if she gets KU again, but I just wish she'd stop and enjoy the children she's been blessed with instead of continuing this publicity stunt. You have 19 kids to be thankful for and enjoy.... isn't that enough?
Have you ever watched the show or listened to the Duggar's reasoning for having this many children? They have a very strong religious belief that it is WRONG to use birth control. A notion that is not actually that uncommon (not that I believe it myself). They can't just "stop" without compromising their religious beliefs, beliefs which they are entitled to have in this country.
Personally, I think its refreshing to see someone actually follow through on their own religious beliefs. How many people do you know who believe its wrong to do something, except when it happens to benefit them? (I.e. "I believe its always wrong to use birth control...except now I'm ready to be done having kids so its okay.")

I believe this says it all.

LaurierGirl28 · December 2011

While a m/c is always a sad event, I find it appalling that this woman still keeps trying to have children, despite multiple doctors advising against it for medical reasons. When you have multiple medical professionals telling you that you are jeopardizing your own life, THAT should be a sign from "God" (since she believes) to stop. I just can't imagine risking your own life to have more kids (as her doctors have said she is doing) when that would leave her existing 19 children motherless. It doesn't make sense to me.

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