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Why would I want or not want an episiotomy? Need help w/ my birth plan.

I'm a FTM, so I think I have a general idea of how I want the birth to go, but some of the specifics are hard since I've never done this before.  I've read some other nestie's birth plans to get some ideas. 

I'm stuck on episiotomy vs. tearing.  Why would I want one over the other?  How about C. None of the above!  Stick out tongue  That would be nice! 

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Re: Why would I want or not want an episiotomy? Need help w/ my birth plan.

  • Generally a natural tear heals easier. Also, the episiotomy creates a weak point that can actually make tearing worse this coming from experience; I had 2 episiotomies and still tore past them, resulting in a 4th degree tear. 

    Think of your perenium like fabric; you can pull and pull and it'll be ok, but if you put one little cut in the selvage suddenly you can rip the fabric apart easily.  

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  • I tore and I honestly didn't feel it when it happened and I wasn't that sore afterwards, just a bit tender for a few days, but that was the whole area.  My doctor wasn't a fan of episiotomies and told me she thinks healing is better without stitches.  You never know if you will tear and if you do how minor or major it will be, if you do a episiotomy you will automatically be cut and stiched with another risk of tearing more(double whammy).  I was willing to see how my body handeled it itself.
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  • I didn't really have a birth plan when I went in, I just wanted to avoid a c section if I could. I ended up needing a vacuum assist after an hour of pushing. It never occurred to me I might have something like this. She still couldn't come out so I got a third degree episiotomy. I was fine with it because I just wanted her out safely. I had ten internal stitches, and an immaculate recovery. I felt absolutely no pain afterwards and was healed up completely in four weeks. I'm glad I gave it no thought prior and had no plan because it all worked out just fine. If I had a birth plan I would have been setting myself up for dissapointment. I think it's nice to have an IDEA of how you would like things to go, but not hold firm to it and trust your dr is doing what is best and safest for you and your baby. FWIW I would have an episiotomy again without hesitation, it was NO big deal. Good luck!
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    I tore and I honestly didn't feel it when it happened and I wasn't that sore afterwards, just a bit tender for a few days, but that was the whole area.  My doctor wasn't a fan of episiotomies and told me she thinks healing is better without stitches.  You never know if you will tear and if you do how minor or major it will be, if you do a episiotomy you will automatically be cut and stiched with another risk of tearing more(double whammy).  I was willing to see how my body handeled it itself.

    Agreed.

    I technically had a tear, but the doc said that it was so minor that it was barely a tear and he was just using stitches as a precaution. Stitches suck.

    And, like the first PP said, I've heard tears are better because jagged skin is going to heal together better than a straight line.

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  • i had a episiotomy with my first and i tore in the same place with my second..the recovery with my tear was a LOT better than the cut. 

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    I didn't really have a birth plan when I went in, I just wanted to avoid a c section if I could. I ended up needing a vacuum assist after an hour of pushing. It never occurred to me I might have something like this. She still couldn't come out so I got a third degree episiotomy. I was fine with it because I just wanted her out safely. I had ten internal stitches, and an immaculate recovery. I felt absolutely no pain afterwards and was healed up completely in four weeks. I'm glad I gave it no thought prior and had no plan because it all worked out just fine. If I had a birth plan I would have been setting myself up for dissapointment. I think it's nice to have an IDEA of how you would like things to go, but not hold firm to it and trust your dr is doing what is best and safest for you and your baby. FWIW I would have an episiotomy again without hesitation, it was NO big deal. Good luck!

     

    Just because you have a birth plan doesn't mean you won't be/can't be flexible with it. It is always a good idea to go into the situation informed and aware of your options and your ideal scenario.  

  • I had a cut, and then tore additionally. I wound up with 25 stitches both internal and external. nurses said it was the most traumatic birth they'd seen in years.

     

    i tell you this to follow up with I felt neither the cut nor the tear. I heals evenly across both in the same amount of time.

     

    my advice? Donto do a birth plan in this area. let your birth experience be what it will be and trust your doctors to make the best decisions for you and your abyss health. they do deliver more babies than we do. :) 

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  • Even though I wrote my birth plan and the doctor has it, and knows what I want that doesn?t mean that?s how it?s going to go, basically I left it as this, ?if you believe an episiotomy is necessary then I trust your judgment.? My Doctor will be able to see down there when I can?t, she will also know what?s best for me and my child, and I honestly believe that she will make the correct decision for me when it comes down to it.

  • Episiotomies used to be standard practice and in my area at least, no longer are. Generally speaking, an episiotomy is a 2" cut through skin & muscle that if done as standard procedure, is meant to prevent a tear. If done because baby is stuck or in distress and needs to get out now, it's meant to get baby out asap. Natural tears, on average, are a centimeter or two and are on the surface, meaning not a muscle tear. It is, of course, possible to have a more serioues tear but that is less common. A tear is not guaranteed to occur with a vaginal birth; an episiotomy is guaranteed to give you something to recover from.

    Most women I know would rather risk a small natural tear rather than opt for an episiotomy. In my birth plan, it states that I would prefer not to have one and would like to try XYZ to help get the baby out first. If that fails & baby is stuck or in immediate distress, then I consent to having one but want only counter pressure applied for the cut and then something to numb the area when being stitched up.

    FYI - my practice has a 2% episiotomy rate. Most women do not need one.

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  • Your body will tear as much or as little as it needs to. Cutting is predetermined and you can still tear. Obviously I am worried about a 4th degree, but I will let my body do what it needs to do to get baby out. 
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  • I think it really depends on your doctor with this one.  My doctors won't even do an episiptomy unless absoluetly neccessary (like the baby gets stuck) because they think tearing heals better.  Have you talked to them about it?

    My opinion is don't cause yourself more pain down there with them making a cut and just let your body take care of itself.  Although you will be very sore either way...

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  • There are so many variables that go into which is going to result in less trauma (tearing vs epis) that it is a decision best left to the time of delivery.  I agree with the other posters, though, that an epis is not always needed and shouldn't be done prophylactically for every patient.

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  • This is definitely a good thing to discuss with the doctor before you start pushing if you don't want them to do an episiotomy.  I didn't really think to discuss it before giving birth and my doctor, while I was in the middle of a push, told me she was going to do a small cut and I yelled at her not to.  I'm glad she told me instead of just doing it (my friend's OB just cut without saying anything) so I could tell her not to!
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  • The nitty gritty specifics, when it comes right down to it, really aren't up to you.  They are mostly dictated by your baby and how your labor and delivery progress.  Trying to micromanage it to that degree is pointless and pretty much only sets you up for disappointment.

    The ACOG advises AGAINST the routine use of episiotomies and very few OBs will still do one just for kicks anymore.  IF you are tearing in a bad direction and they want to reroute it, they will do it.  If they need to make some extra room, they will do it.  These are decisions that are made in the moment based upon your needs and the needs of your baby in the moment.  If you don't trust your physician to make these sorts of judgement calls as you are delivering, you need to find a new doctor.

    I found it's always best to discuss your concerns directly with your healthcare provider, rather than handing them a list of your "plans." 

     

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    The nitty gritty specifics, when it comes right down to it, really aren't up to you.  They are mostly dictated by your baby and how your labor and delivery progress.  Trying to micromanage it to that degree is pointless and pretty much only sets you up for disappointment.

    The ACOG advises AGAINST the routine use of episiotomies and very few OBs will still do one just for kicks anymore.  IF you are tearing in a bad direction and they want to reroute it, they will do it.  If they need to make some extra room, they will do it.  These are decisions that are made in the moment based upon your needs and the needs of your baby in the moment.  If you don't trust your physician to make these sorts of judgement calls as you are delivering, you need to find a new doctor.

    I found it's always best to discuss your concerns directly with your healthcare provider, rather than handing them a list of your "plans." 

     

    ditto, this is exactly what i meant in my post. they are paid to deliver our babies for a reason. they will do what they think is needed, and you should trust your drs judgement. of course nobody WANTS an episiotomy.. who really wants their vag cut open? but if your dr thinks you need one, what are you going to say "THATS NOT IN MY BIRTH PLAN!"... no.

  • An episiotomy used to be someting dr's did routinely; now most doctors only do them if they feel they're necessary while the baby is crowning. This is generally not something you get to decide in-advance, but rather is done by the doctor if they feel it's necessary while you're pushing the baby out.
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  • My birth plan with DD said no episiotomy. However, after close to 3 hours of pushing my OB said that we'd either need to cut or consider a c-section (he wouldn't let me push longer than 3 hours). He said I had a ring of tissue that some women have that would not stretch or tear (they'd be trying to stretch it from before I'd even started pushing. I let them cut and in 2 pushes she was out. I had stitches but healed quickly, and it was surely better than a c-section.

    Sooo, my suggestion is to talk to your OB, express your wishes, but keep your options open! 

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    Generally a natural tear heals easier. Also, the episiotomy creates a weak point that can actually make tearing worse this coming from experience; I had 2 episiotomies and still tore past them, resulting in a 4th degree tear. 

    Think of your perenium like fabric; you can pull and pull and it'll be ok, but if you put one little cut in the selvage suddenly you can rip the fabric apart easily.  

    This exactly. Also, if you have an episiotomy, it may never have been necessary. There is no guarantee that you will tear during delivery, so you're better off just letting it happen naturally if it's going to happen unless there is some reason that the baby needs to come out immediately and letting you tear naturally would take too long, though this isn't too common.

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