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Seriously Michelle Duggar?
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Re: Seriously Michelle Duggar?
Yes, I think she had pre-eclampsia and her daughter was born very prematurely. It's just sad.
Yep, you would think that delivering at 25w due to pre-e would make some people think twice.
Eh, to each their own. They aren't living on government assistance. Pre-e could happen to anyone, I'm pretty sure a few girls on here have had it. Should they never have another child because of it?
Definitely not the lifestyle for me though.
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I dunno - I seem to think that her current children should be factored into the decision. Although - she's got the older ones trained to raise the younger ones...so maybe she thinks all would be fine without her? She had severe pre-E and combined with her age she will most likely have it again. Sometimes rational thought needs to come before prayer and letting God decide how many children you will have. God let us have calendars and helped someone develop NFP - so maybe they should skip having sex for a week each month
I don't want it to seem like I hate her or anything. She seems super nice and sweet, but also super dumb/reckless and irresponsible to the children she already has. I don't consider her a good mother.
That is certainly not what I'm saying. Everyone knows the older you are, the riskier pregnancies become. She is 45, has 19 kids and 2 grand kids, and the older kids are raising the younger ones. She has described the "buddy system" they have, where an older kid is paired off with a younger one, to get them dressed, help them with school, etc. It just makes me sad that the older kids don't get to be kids, they are too busy raising their siblings.
They may not be living off government assistance, but there are other things to take into consideration. Would they have this many kids if they didn't have the TV show? Maybe, but my guess is probably not.
Just my UO.
Yeah, this is more where I was going. Plus I think it's completely irresponsible to knowingly put yourself and your unborn baby at such a risk of complications. It's all fine and dandy if they can afford it, but the welfare of the children, her body, and future unborn children should be taken into consideration.
I'm biased because I'm a huge fan.
Maybe it's a front for TV but they seem to be very well behaved kids. Their house seems clean and organized. The kids are running around the house or playing outside. If they can afford it and keep their sanity I say good for them. Like someone else mentioned, complications can happen to anyone and I'm sure they wouldn't let it keep them from trying again. Her age is a concern but aren't women in general having babies later in life?
For sure but they aren't on baby #20 and there is still a huge increase of risk that the child will have something developmentally wrong with it. I just hope this is not the case for them.
This is her 5th c/s and bc of Josie she has to be a c/s from here on out and I think her doctor will make her stop soon. There is only so many times you can cut into a uterus!
Absolutely agree. And I'm biased because I really cannot stand them but I think everyone's health needs to be taken into consideration, it really isn't natural for your body to carry 20 children. Even if they are continuing to reproduce because they feel God is blessing them with these children, I think it's for the show and the money they make off of it (but that's my opinion and don't want to make this into a religious debate).
To each their own, they are humans and real people....they can do as they wish. It isn't for me, but I am not disgusted by it. I am sure she is aware of the risks, I am sure she has great OB's that will do everything they can for her. Hopefully she can carry a healthy baby to term.
They do wonderful things for others, the kids seem happy and adjusted to their way of life. They don't know any different. I don't think they deserve judgment. I am sure they are expecting it though since they have their lives exposed on TV.
I am sure nothing that they do is "easy"....I bet having 20 kids is not easy no matter how much you make or who foots the bill. So many of their trips are mission trips, how can you judge that?
One more and she'll tie my great-grandma for number of kids!
I guess she and Jim Bob were shopping for the new baby at the last consignment sale a couple weeks ago here. I was kinda hoping they were buying for the grandkids.
I really hope the baby she has is born without issues.
I just think back to Jim Bob sobbing at her bedside because he thought she (michelle) might die. And how they moved their whole family to be near the NICU. And the failed attempt to bring the baby home from the NICU.
Maybe they do have plenty of money - but enough to put 20 children through the college of their choice? Will their kids be going to college?
I know for me, if my kids want to go to vet school, med school, law school, whatever - I will make sure it happens. I also wouldn't want older siblings to resent their family for being 'stuck' taking care of the younger kids. Who knows if that's the case, but it's not like they have a choice.
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I dunno, I am with MrsWhite on this one. The kids all seem happy and well adjusted, they are running around and playing with one another, they get exposed to plenty of things through their various vacations, speaking engagements and mission trips. I don't think that just because they've chosen not to prevent pregnancy that they should get lambasted by the media. They take care of their family and so what if the older kids help out? They certainly aren't holding them back - the oldest is married and on his own, several of them own their own businesses (which their parents helped them to set up), they volunteer as firefighters (even the girls) and take mission trips around the country and the world. Yes, she had complications with her last pregnancy, but they aren't complications that couldn't happen to any person, on baby #1 or #20. And I don't think the fact that their kids have chores and help with things around the house like dinner or taking care of the little kids is a bad thing. I babysat my sister, I did chores around the house, I learned how to make dinner and do laundry and I think I still managed to have a childhood.
Would I chose to have 20 kids? Probably not. But I also don't choose to wear a skirt everyday or court like they do either, doesn't mean I think their decisions are crazy - clearly it works for them and their family.
Yeah.....I am sure we have all seen J&K+8....those kids were miserable and not well behaved and there was no hiding it.
I have no problems with them have another baby. I don't think that the problems Michelle had with Jose should be a reason to not have another. Each pregnancy is different. I think this is her 17th pg, 2 sets of twins? And only one other pg, which was her second pg and with twins, did she she have complications. Her family lives debt-free, they are absolutely no burden on society, they don't even use the public schools. The children who are now adults are productive individuals. They are doing something right.
As for the life style being for me? Heck NO! It isn't for most people, if it was there wouldn't be anything special enough about it to be on TV. And as for their "We will have the babies God gives us", is total BS! If God is almighty and choses who has babies and who doesn't, then why do we have so much child abuse in the world, and why so many children in the foster system! I think people should invest their thoughts and time into the people who keep having babies on gov't assistance and with other children in the foster system rather than this family. Anyone see the story here in Syracuse about the 3yr old boy whos father drowned him in the shower then went out with friends leaving the boys body in his apartment? The father had absolutely no remorse.
EDIT: After posting this, I thought about it and realized what I said may come off as anti-religion or offensive. What my point is, I think that having children falls under free will rather than God's will. I think every child is a gift and blessing to the world, not necessarily a reward to people who God believes will be good parents. I think there are so many people who would be wonderful parents and deserve children but face fertility issues, I just don't think God choses this for them.