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I hate Christmas (oh, and need some advice)

Yep. I said it.

I absolutely, positively, without a shadow of a doubt, despise Christmas.

Ok, maybe not Christmas as a holiday, but the drama that comes along with makes me crazy.

 

So. Background,

DH and I live 3000 miles away from our families. He is Army. Not our decision to be stationed here, but we are, and we're making the best of it.

 

Then comes Christmas. Every year, our families expect us to shell out:

$1000.00 in plane tickets

$350.00 in animal care

14 days of earned leave

to come celebrate this magnificent holiday.

 

And every single year we come home and decide we should have never gone in the first place.

My family is split six ways 'till Sunday and they each feel "entitled" to our time over the other. Last year we didn't even get to sit down and eat because we had to run to 4 different places that had dinner scheduled around the same time. And if one gets more time than the other....I get btched out.

Then there is the divorce between my grandparents....and its ugly. In fact its gotten so ugly that the rest of the family opted out of driving down for Christmas as usual because its too stressful on the older folk. 

 

So....my grandmother is now relying on us to be there more than ever. She's laying the guilt trip so thick I don't even know what to do.

Yesterday she said "I don't know what I'll do if you can't come. I need to see you."

seriously...... 

This year, tickets are $1500.00. With a baby on the way, it sounds like the dumbest idea ever to blow that kind of dough to run around for a few days doing something that always ends up ugly.

She won't come here.... but I don't want to go there. 

 Wtf do I do.

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  • Well are you going to continue doing this after the baby is here? If not I'd say stay home this year and start your own family traditions and don't feel guilty about it!
    i wish i could be joking but my dad is the music teacher at a church so he owuld be mad. we had sex, all the time how bad i know but we dont want to wait and he said GREAT OH KAY! and I was really feeling the wets? down there- too embarsed to say- but he acted like man.
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  • I hate being stressed about something that should be enjoyable.  Tell them you don't want to fly that long at that stage in your pregnancy.  Is this your first?  If so say that you and DH would like to spend Christmas alone this year before the addition of LO.

  • tell her you can't fly becuase you are pregnant and scared it will hurt the baby.Devil
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  • Sometime you are going to have to start putting your family first.  Your family as in your husband and your baby.  May as well be this year.  I know your family will be disappointed but you can't live your life just to please everyone else. 

    My husband and I have finally given up on the whole trying to please everyone else.  We are much happier now and believe it or not, they got over it.  When you start setting boundaries for yourself and your family life gets a whole lot easier.

    Good luck and thanks to you and your hubby for serving! 

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  • I was talking to my grandmother about the possibility of not being able to fly because of the baby....I told her we needed to make sure everything was ok and if there was a hint of a hint of anything wrong with this pregnancy that I wouldn't come.

    She replies:

    I want you here for Christmas!

     Me:

    It's not about you or anyone else...ITS ABOUT MY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    She's really sweet...but super narrow-minded sometimes. 

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  • imagemomamatthews:

    Sometime you are going to have to start putting your family first.  Your family as in your husband and your baby.  May as well be this year.  I know your family will be disappointed but you can't live your life just to please everyone else. 

    My husband and I have finally given up on the whole trying to please everyone else.  We are much happier now and believe it or not, they got over it.  When you start setting boundaries for yourself and your family life gets a whole lot easier.

    Good luck and thanks to you and your hubby for serving! 

     

    This is awesome advice. I guess I just need to hear that I'm not being a selfish asshat.

     

    And thank you..I'll pass your thanks along once my GI Joe wakes up.

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    imagemomamatthews:

    Sometime you are going to have to start putting your family first.  Your family as in your husband and your baby.  May as well be this year.  I know your family will be disappointed but you can't live your life just to please everyone else. 

    My husband and I have finally given up on the whole trying to please everyone else.  We are much happier now and believe it or not, they got over it.  When you start setting boundaries for yourself and your family life gets a whole lot easier.

    Good luck and thanks to you and your hubby for serving! 

     

    This is awesome advice. I guess I just need to hear that I'm not being a selfish asshat.

     

    And thank you..I'll pass your thanks along once my GI Joe wakes up.

    Shut up you know you are an asshat!

    i wish i could be joking but my dad is the music teacher at a church so he owuld be mad. we had sex, all the time how bad i know but we dont want to wait and he said GREAT OH KAY! and I was really feeling the wets? down there- too embarsed to say- but he acted like man.
  • Well, if you look at the bright side, your family wants to see you.  If they said you didn't need to come, it'd be kind of sad...

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  • Damnit, Gisa, I know I can't get anything past you but these girls dun kno me like dat....geeeeeeeeeeez. 

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  • Word. There is a time in life, when you REALLY get your wings and fly: marriage/committed relationship is one wing, and babies are the other.

    You have to make your own traditions. It's not selfish at all. It's actually more selfish on their part because they are making you feel guilty. I don't see them altering their traditions for you...

    It's your decision of course, but I had to have this conversation with my family when I started working in TV (24/7/365) and to this day, they STILL don't really get it.  I can't make every holiday.  

    Now that I have a husband and a baby on the way, I know this Christmas will be even more special, and we've already decided we're staying put.

    Good luck! 

  • After living for three and a half years at least a state away from family (and for two years, half the country away), I can honestly say I can completely relate.  I get so sick of the guilt trips!  I'm also really sick of the expectation that we travel to see them all the time, which uses up our finances and precious vacation time.  We've been talking a lot about doing a 'babymoon' or at least taking a short vacation just the two of us before the baby arrives.  In the four years we've been married, we've never taken a vacation just the two of us to any place besides to visit family.  After dealing with my side of the family and drama over who is going to be where for Thanksgiving and Christmas this year, I told my DH that we're not dealing with this when the baby is here.  When the baby is here, we aren't going to be guilt tripped into going home for every holiday.  If we choose to go home, we're going to stay in one spot and family can come visit us.  Otherwise they are more than welcome to come to our house for holidays.
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    tell her you can't fly becuase you are pregnant and scared it will hurt the baby.Devil

    this. or say your doctor says you can't fly.

    OR you could say, "if you really need to see me, you can pay all my expenses. i'd rather save my money for LO's nursey."

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  • I am right there with you on the no love for Christmas.

    Please don't feel guilty about not going 'home' for Christmas. You can still love your family and not go back. I live across the country from my family & have been back only 2 times in 10 years. No one thinks I don't love them (well, except maybe my sister, but we don't need to go there). After not going for a couple of years, and Christmas ends up being fine they stop asking...and then when you actually show up everyone is happy that you're there. It's a much better dynamic than being 'expected' to show up.

    If you're looking for a way to make it more palatable for your family frame it as a practical consideration. It costs a ton of money & vacation leave and you're expecting a baby. I'm making an assumption that you'd rather save up the vacation & money to be able to take a trip back for everyone to meet the baby once it arrives. If your family is anything like mine, the one thing they love more than Christmas is babies, so that should placate many of them.

    Also, would YH be able to take more leave to be home with you when baby arrives if you don't go back for Christmas this year? That alone would be reason enough for me to nix a holiday trip.

    Good luck and please know you aren't the only one who has to contend with family holiday insanity.

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  • If I were you, I wouldn't go. The money that will be spent on just the plane tickets can go towards your baby. Besides, you are pregnant, why put yourself through that type of stress anyway? Stay home and relax in peace! Now that you are going to be a mom, it's time for you and DH to start making your own family traditions w/your child, not cowarding to the guilt trips of his/your family. I know it hard, but if you don't put your foot down about this now, you will regret it later on when you're shelpping through the airport w/a toddler during the holidays wishing you were home in your bed instead. I think at this point, your family is asking way too much of you guys to be spending that kind of money considering you are expecting a child. Stand your ground and don't let family disappointment convince you otherwise. If someone wants to insits, then tell them if they'll pay your plane ticket, you'll be happy to visit, lets see how fast someone will shell out $1500, lol! Good luck!
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    Also, would YH be able to take more leave to be home with you when baby arrives if you don't go back for Christmas this year? That alone would be reason enough for me to nix a holiday trip.

    Good luck and please know you aren't the only one who has to contend with family holiday insanity.

    You, my dear, are a genius. 

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  • I am with everybody else on saying don't go if you don't want to.  They can always come visit you if they must see you!  DH, you and your baby are first in your family and you have to do what is best for the 3 of you.

    My MIL has a mental freak out on the years we aren't with her on Christmas, but you know what, she gets over it because she knows if she doesn't we will see her even less.

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  • imagemomamatthews:

    Sometime you are going to have to start putting your family first.  Your family as in your husband and your baby.  May as well be this year.  I know your family will be disappointed but you can't live your life just to please everyone else. 

    My husband and I have finally given up on the whole trying to please everyone else.  We are much happier now and believe it or not, they got over it.  When you start setting boundaries for yourself and your family life gets a whole lot easier.

    Good luck and thanks to you and your hubby for serving! 

    Exactly this!  Enjoy your holiday in peace.  What about arranging a short visit another time when it won't be so hectic?  And flights will be cheaper.

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  • Wow. I don't even have to travel nearly as far as you, and the drama and running around tires me. Maybe you should give them all web cams and have a holiday Skype?
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  • In my experience, family members that guilt you that severely do it for a reason - they never got over you leaving in the first place.

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    In my experience, family members that guilt you that severely do it for a reason - they never got over you leaving in the first place.

    They were pretty pissed about that one.

    Because I TOTALLY wanted to live in a place that rains all the time, has no Dunkin Donuts, and has a population entirely clad in their jammers.

     

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  • Is flying through the military not an option for you? I'd want to be with my family on Christmas.  I'm not sure if you post is really about the money or your desire to go.  It sorta seems like you don't want to go and are using the money as an excuse? I'd look at it as a blessing that my family and in particular my grandmother was still around and wanted to spend time with me.    *shrug*
  • Families can be SOOOO stressful sometimes.  Sorry they are making it so hard on you.  My Mom said it better then anyone when she was alive.  She said "When you have kids holiday expectations changes.  That's when we start coming to you."  Maybe you and DH can start making some memorable traditions for you LO.  Good luck!
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  • Put your foot down and say no.   We did it this yr, DH's fam always expects us to go out there and while I normally don't mind, I'm just not feeling up to it this yr. It's our first xmas in Co (just moved here on new yrs eve, DH is army also we're in CO and they're in NC) and I'm preg, I don't want to make a cross country drive (we always drive, it's SO much cheaper than flying but still expensive) when we need to be saving our pennies. His mom is upset BUT they decided they're going to come here and visit us, which makes SIL sad cause they can't come and this will be their first xmas in YRS without their parents... UGH!
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    Is flying through the military not an option for you? I'd want to be with my family on Christmas.  I'm not sure if you post is really about the money or your desire to go.  It sorta seems like you don't want to go and are using the money as an excuse? I'd look at it as a blessing that my family and in particular my grandmother was still around and wanted to spend time with me.    *shrug*

    If it weren't for the money, I'd probably suck it up and go.

    But the way my Christmas's usually go, I don't think anyone would be up for it.

    4 separate dinners in one day....guilt trips for being one place too long...family members fighting over everything, awkward situations because of the famous divorce, in-laws pissed because we woke up at MY family's house instead of theirs for Christmas...

     

    I think my head just imploded. 

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  • I 100% think you should say no.

     A.) I really don't think that type of guilting/expectations are reasonable.  I don't find it okay for family to create that type of drama.

    B.) I don't think dragging a little kid around from one place to another is all that fair to the kid!  They should be able to have a peaceful Christmas.

    C.) That type of money could be MUCH better spent when you have a child on the way.  Use it to have an actual vacation!

    Stand up for yourself and say no.  You are not obligated to do all of this and it doesn't make you unreasonable at all.  It is important to put your family first, and being miserable doesn't accomplish that.

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    Stay home. Seriously.  Tell them you can't afford it, blame it on the pregnancy, whatever. Just say no.  They'll get over it eventually.   Enjoy this Christmas as just your little family, and maybe get some of that joy of the season back. :)

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  • i wouldn't go and i would say that your doctor wants  you to keep your feet on the ground (no flying) and that you need to be in as a stress free environment as possible because of blood pressure.

    We've been going through similar family stuff for years and it's just not worth it. spend the special times with the people that can be there FOR YOU and make you happy you spent any money that you had to spend to make it happen. Don't let THEIR unhappiness and guilt turn into your guilt, you don't deserve that.

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  • I'm sorry you are having to deal with this and i don't have advice...I just wanted to let you know that I LOVE your wedding dress. Big Smile
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  • Baby excuse! I'm sorry.... Dr said it's too risky to travel! And for later...... I'm sorry! LO is terrified of planes ;-) Tehehehe... Sounds like just about the only thing that MIGHT work...
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  • imageyellowtulips80:
    tell her you can't fly becuase you are pregnant and scared it will hurt the baby.Devil

    This! Or tell her that you've flown down there enough times, and this time, you're pregnant and tired, so if she really wants to see you, she better buy herself a plane ticket.

  • I have this same problem with my family... and they only live 2 hours awayTongue Tied. I would let them know that it's a huge expense and that you and your hubby need to save some of your vacation time and your pennys for when the baby arrives. Suggested that either they help pay (also I would ask everyone what their plans are, and then you can plan accordingly... just let everyone know that you might not be able to make it to their supper, or breakfast or whatever) OR maybe it's their turn to come see you. I hope they don't expect you to do this next year when you have LO. I agree with most of the posts, maybe it's time to start your own family traditions, and whoever would like to be a part of them will be there. GL :)
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  • I wouldn't go, but I also wouldn't blame it on pregnancy, or any other temporary excuse.  Just say that you've spent years traveling to them and want to stay home this Christmas and have a calmer holiday, but if people want to come to you you'd be more than happy to host them.

    That said, next year will be baby's first Christmas and you KNOW there will be mondo-pressure to travel.  I'd consider whether traveling this year, and telling people flat-out that it's the last year, you want your child to wake up in their own bed on Christmas morning, etc will take some of the heat off you next year.  You'll have given them 12 months' warning that if they want to see their grandbaby at Christmas they need to come to you.
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  • Honestly if it were me, I would be pulling the 'christmas is really about' card. I hate putting a guilt trip on anyone, but guess what. The traveling road goes BOTH WAYS! Why should you guys have to blow your husbands leave, and your alls hard earned money (ESPECIALLY WITH A BABY ON THE WAY), if they can't do the same to come and see you? 

    Everyone has their own problems. Just like you guys may have your own that no one knows of. Holidays aren't the times to be fighting over entitlement. Just because you dont get to see everyone doesn't mean that you care or love them any less. You're pregnant, and yes, everyone is excited and happy for you and wants to be a part of that but not eeveryone can be. So I would say if you REALLY don't want to, why not just get together with some friends that aren't going somewhere and have your own little dinner and if some of the family wants to come and visit you then they are more than welcome. If not then it's on them.

    We all love our families, but personally I hate christmas drama more than anything. bc I go through it every year. Not the long distance (our families are within 3 hrs of eachother) but still. It makes it hard. So you gotta figure out if its really that important for you not to go or to go like every year. 

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