I went to Target to get my flu shot (please don't judge it was quick and convenient), and I asked for the preservative-free version since I am bf (eping) and the NP told me she is still nursing her son and he just turned 2 . So many thoughts ran through my head when she told me this. I can't imagine being that committed to it that I would go for that long and also the fact that the kids mouth is probably full of chompers...ouch!!!
I also counted 3 people that had their LO's carseats in the top portion of the cart...I really wanted to sat something but I'm just not that pushy or aggressive, which I know is not an excuse.
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I say nursing at 2--BRAVO!!! That's committment there. I don' think we'll make it that long. 18 months is my goal, but I think we will be finishing out our freezer supply by then.
As far as the cart thing, I know what you mean. I saw someone doing it the other day. It's very common around here. We did it a couple of times at first.
We quickly realized it was stupid and not worth the risk. We no longer do it at all. I actually made a post about it the other day (don't think anyone really cared enough to respond
), but I was at BBB and actually witnessed a sales person advising a mother about which seats are "safe" to put on top. I just about lost it, but I kept my cool.
Honestly, I would have never thought about it before hand if it weren't for TB. 99% of parents with carriers around here seems to do it. However, it became clear to us via common sense that it wasn't a safe practice.
For the record, we put C in the basket part and not uptop. Here is my question about it though, I understand if the cart just gets unstable them faling off the top part, but if the cart actually tips over it won't matter if they are up top or in the basket... they are still going to fall out.
If the carseat is placed in the basket part, your cart will not be top heavy and it is very unlikely that it would ever tip in the first place.
Playing devils advocate for fun: Baby + carseat weighs about 22 pounds at birth to say 28 pounds right now for my daughter. I'm pretty sure that if the basket was completely filled with groceries it would weigh more than what you had on top.
Yes, I agree - odd thing to judge on. I plan on BFing until N wants to stop. If that's 2 great! Beyond 2, no problem there either.
My view is the cart automatically becomes more unstable when the seat is on top so it is more likely to tip. Carts don't generally tip when stuff is in the basket.
I have a question about the carseet / cart thing.
So, I have twins and if I have no choice but to take them both to the store, what choice do I have but to put one in the cart and one on the cart? I NEVER leave the cart EVER, but really? What options are there aside from trying to get push two carts full of baby?
Ditto the first bolded part. The problem is that your basket is not typically full of groceries until later/the end. That generally takes some time. So unless you are going straight for the dog food/soda/other heavy items, etc, and loading it up, then it will be top heavy for a good portion of your trip.
Plus, even if they "latch on," every cart is different and some still don't fit in very well. I also don't like how you can't see around the carrier. Unless your tall, I'm going with at least 6 ft, then it's next to impossible.
Which is why the only time C has ever been on top has been when I was walking out to my car with a cartfull of groceries.
I'm pretty sure that if my baby was in a car seat on the top I would have a hand on the car seat at all times and I'm pretty sure I would let a cart fall over and grab the baby before I would try to right the cart or keep it from tipping over. Just my thinking on it though.
Like I said, I'm playing devils advocate because I still keep C in the basket while shopping (or wear her which is getting sooo hard now that she is packin on the pounds).
Forgot to add: And what about when the baby becomes able to sit on their own... does that not make the cart top heavy as well? Are you just going to carry your 9mo old until your car gets full enough that it isn't top heavy?
Sorry I feel like the board needs some good debating today. lol
Also playing devil's advocate
What about the time from when you first put the seat up there until it is no longer top heavy?
ETA - sorry, just saw Kimbo already responded
Don't see a problem with her nursing her 2 year old.. To each their own.. Its normal and very healthy.
Carts- I put baby in the basket part in her car seat.. just don't feel comfortable with putting her on top. I see that lots of people do though.
I'm always up for a good debate
A car seat sits up much higher than a baby/toddler sitting within the seat of the cart itself so the center of gravity is still much higher with the car seat sitting on top.
That's true. I also think a wiggly baby/toddler also could throw off the balance of the cart... I've also seen toddlers in the basket tip a cart over because they were moving around too much. I guess my point is I just think moms need to be keeping an eye/hand out for their kid no matter where they are... and that accidents can happen regardless of the precautions you make.
And as for your earlier post I don't know if you read my response to kimbo but I posted before that I have had C up on top when the basket was full of groceries while we were walking out to the car and got the side eye on here for it. I'm just saying my hand was on her the handle of the carseat the whole time and I would have grabbed her if the cart started tipping rather than the cart.
yep at the store yesterday an associate told me to do it at check out when I was stuffing the bags in around DD. I straight up told her that my nephews skull was cracked because of this, they, were not designed for that and that other parents do it because they don't know better. Doubt she will be telling any other Moms to do that now...lol
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I don't personally have an answer. I would think the twin in the basket part would weigh it down enough that it would be more stable.
The only other option I could see would be a double stroller with a basket attached via bag holders.
Exactlyi don't have twins, but did have 2u2. my oldest sits in the top of the cart, and i wear the baby. i would assume you could wear one and put the seat in the basket part. doesn't leave a ton of room for the groceries, but would probably be the safest alternative.
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I do this a lot when I'm a lone. My diaper bag (which is always too heavy) is in the bottom. With DD in her carrier, as Mare said, she probably weighs a good 25 pounds. So, I seriously doubt I'd be able to fit so much stuff in the basket that it would be so heavy to pull down the stroller taking her with it.
I have actually started using a second handle so the basket is more stable too. This works great for us!
ETA: To the mom with twins. I would think this could work on a double stroller for you too. You could even probably have 2 baskets attached. I also liked the suggestion about wearing one and placing the other in the basket.
As to the bolded - you are absolutely right!
I saw your response after I posted my reply
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be judgemental, but I just can't picture a toddler nursing, it just seems odd to me. I know everyone is different and their situation is different, but 2 just seems too old to me.
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MH is able to pack $200 worth of groceries into one of those baskets!! NOT that I think what you are saying is wrong - MH is just a freak like that
I'm impressed... or maybe he just buys really expensive stuff.
It's all expensive stuff. And I want to kill him every time! This is why he's not allowed to grocery shop. He seriously comes out with $40 worth of cheese most times.
here's a picture of what it looks like! this is when dd1 was 17 months old:
Haha. Yah. I use it more for light shopping and quick trips or just walking around to get out of the house. If I need to do serious shopping, I make sure and go when DH can go with me so we can do a buggie and stroller if we need to.
Maybe I just keep picturing the little boy from Grown Ups that is standing there nursing and he's like 5 or 6. I think they are too old when they start asking for it, which I have seen IRL before.
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1 of my best friends nursed her daughter until she was 2.5yrs. I plan on nursing until 2yrs unless my DD weans herself. The shopping cart thing really bugs me too.
It was on the way out to the car that the baby in Alabama recently died because his seat came loose and fell off the cart, even with the cart full of groceries. Granted, she was letting the grocery store worker kid push the cart, which was dumb, but if I had my purse and was walking along with my cart and her carseat toppled over, I'm not sure I could catch that giant 30lb bulky carseat fast enough before it hit the ground and hurt her.
Honestly this argument won't stop until Graco puts in their instructions for parents to stop doing this. It's already in the instructions for my Chicco like 3 times to never put it up there. Hurray for Chicco!
Okay, I like my cheese, but that'd be a lot of cheese! Lately I've been leaving DH at home when I go grocery shopping just because he has a habit of throwing so much junk food in the cart.... And then complaining that he can't lose weight. Well, duh! Did you think you could eat two heaping bowls of Frosted Flakes for breakfast and lose weight! Just because Burger King has a special to Buy One Original Chicken Sandwich and get one free doesn't mean you have to get it and eat them both! Ahem... Sorry, it appears my frustration took over....
my little cousin fell out of a shopping cart and cracked her head open- ER, blood, stitches, concussion, the works--- she was 4.
I think the only answer is to shop at Ikea, where you can check your kid at the door
Besides, they have the meatballs- total win-win.
DH is the same way, I keep trying to tell him to eat more fruits and veggies rather than the Cinnamon Toast Crunch he has an an "appetizer" before dinner each night.
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ETA - so sorry about your cousin!!
This was me at TJ Maxx a few months ago. I had all three kids in tow. I tried to put the carrier in the cart part, but it didn't fit. So I put it on top of the basket part, DD1 was sitting in the seat.
The security guy tried to tell me not to put the cart up there, which is fine, but I looked up at him and said "I HAVE THREE KIDS"
It was kind of a frustrating day anyway lol
According to the BBB girl, the only "safe" ones are the peg perego ones that have a "deep latch" <big eye roll>.
And yes I agree. Unfortunately, people don't always read instructions. However, I think it needs to be in one of the pictures on the cart itself also.
That kid also pushed it over a speed bump and that's when the baby fell out. So there was still something that caused the cart to become unstable.
So then, what about the carts at walmart or other stores that have an infant seat on the top part? That's the "solution", but how high that thing sticks up over the cart scares me more than putting my car seat up there (which I don't do).
Whoever can come up with a new design of a shopping cart to prevent falls and still fit all the kids in it... would be a freaking genius and make a ton of money.