Lets just do it (Vaccination discussion)

alinnolan · September 2011

psychgirl33:

hilwithonelary:
For those who have said they are not giving he chickenpox vaccine, do you have a set age in mind when you will give the vaccine if your child hasn't had it yet? I think I've usually heard that 13 is when the risk of complications from the virus rises.

One of my friends growing up got it at 12. I figured that was about when we'll do it if we decide against it as an infant. We'll see, we're not totally decided yet.

I got Chicken pox and so did my siblings (and quite alot of my friends). I think that when you get it you become immune to it. I guess I need more information before I decide but I may not get this one done. I dont know yet.

psychgirl33 · September 2011

alinnolan:
psychgirl33:

hilwithonelary:
For those who have said they are not giving he chickenpox vaccine, do you have a set age in mind when you will give the vaccine if your child hasn't had it yet? I think I've usually heard that 13 is when the risk of complications from the virus rises.

One of my friends growing up got it at 12. I figured that was about when we'll do it if we decide against it as an infant. We'll see, we're not totally decided yet.

I got Chicken pox and so did my siblings (and quite alot of my friends). I think that when you get it you become immune to it. I guess I need more information before I decide but I may not get this one done. I dont know yet.

Yes, you are correct. I should clarify my statement above...she got the vaccine at 12 because she had never contracted chicken pox.

Alliebooberz · September 2011

alinnolan:
I got Chicken pox and so did my siblings (and quite alot of my friends). I think that when you get it you become immune to it. I guess I need more information before I decide but I may not get this one done. I dont know yet.

I think that's true. I had it as a child along with all of my siblings. I think my parents had a chicken pox party. I have scars from it still... I thought it was the norm. I think you *CAN* get it again but it's really rare. Kinda like how they say once you have Mono you can't get it again... I've had Mono 7 times... So that's not always true. I've actually had a doctor try to tell me that you can't get mono again... But 7 doctors have tested me again and again when my symptoms flare back up. Which I know is not the norm, but it can happen. Anyway... I don't know why I went on that tangent.

I guess I meant to say that I wonder if chicken pox have gotten worse or if parents don't know how to take care of their children as well or what is it that makes chicken pox so scary now as opposed to 25 years ago? I'm not trying to be snarky that's totally serious.

kmiller1012 · September 2011

raceyrae:
The vaccine schedule, quantities, which vaccines, etc. have been determined based on hundreds of studies by many scientist and doctors who make it their life to know the ins and outs of these diseases. As a scientist myself, and knowing what goes into getting a vaccine approved (my DH does drug design for a pharmaceutical company), I know that these aren't decisions that they come to lightly. I trust the hundreds of studies and doctors/scientists to pool their information to make these recommendations to know significantly more than I do as a mom about medicine than the one or two random stories you hear blown out of proportion on the news by celebrities, etc. We follow the CDC/AAP recommendations and will continue to with this child.
And as others have stated, you usually don't see signs for autism until 18 mo to 2 yr old which is only coincidentally when MMR shot is given. The one study that stated it was related to this vaccine has been riped apart by other scientist, found to be seriously flawed and significantly inaccurate. Thanks Jenny McCarthy for latching onto one study out of hundreds that turned out to be totally false.

This was very well said and how I feel on the subject.

Mrs_MBed · September 2011

SheenaNash1:
mhollidayesq:
Some believe that the vaccines themselves are safe, but that the cocktails are not safe and are responsible for the increase in autism in children. Most Dr.s say there is no reliable research to support this, but mothers with autistic children, especially ones who say it didn't occur until after being vaccinated say otherwise. I dont have a firm opinion one way or another...other than something is the cause for the increase in autism and it needs to be figured out sooner rather than later. It's a hard call to make. On the one hand the statistics of how many children shown signs of autism after vaccination vs. How many children the vaccines protect would suggest vaccines are a better gamble. But mother's with autistic children would certainly disagree that it's not worth the risk. So it's definitely a personal choice for everyone.

However, most of them are basing their opinions on a study that has recently been proven to be a complete load of crap. I think a lot of the time people hear about one study and then they continue to hold that opinion even after that widely talked about study has been proven false.

Thank you Sheena! I used to work with children/teens with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and an overwhelming number of them were exhibiting symptoms prior to the vaccinations that are blamed for it. The rise in instances ASD is most likely due to a better understanding of the disorders courtesy of real scientific research (not that purposefully falsified study that started this panic in the first place) and advancements in technology to properly diagnose them. There could also be genetic factors. My cousin's husband has and ASD and their son was just diagnosed with the same one as well.

We are pro-vaccinating and do it on the guidelines set by the American Pediatric Association, CDC, and WHO. DD2 was born at 33 wks and spent her first month in the NICU, only to be released at the beginning of cold/flu season. It was vital that we all got the flu vaccines, made sure DD1 was up to date on hers and avoid people who weren't. Otherwise she would have ended up back in the hospital.

Plus, I have a very close friend who is a Polio survivor - there is no way I would pass up an opportunity to prevent them from getting something like that or avoiding fatal childhood diseases.

alinnolan · September 2011

Alliebooberz:
alinnolan:

I got Chicken pox and so did my siblings (and quite alot of my friends). I think that when you get it you become immune to it. I guess I need more information before I decide but I may not get this one done. I dont know yet.

I think that's true. I had it as a child along with all of my siblings. I think my parents had a chicken pox party. I have scars from it still... I thought it was the norm. I think you *CAN* get it again but it's really rare. Kinda like how they say once you have Mono you can't get it again... I've had Mono 7 times... So that's not always true. I've actually had a doctor try to tell me that you can't get mono again... But 7 doctors have tested me again and again when my symptoms flare back up. Which I know is not the norm, but it can happen. Anyway... I don't know why I went on that tangent.

I guess I meant to say that I wonder if chicken pox have gotten worse or if parents don't know how to take care of their children as well or what is it that makes chicken pox so scary now as opposed to 25 years ago? I'm not trying to be snarky that's totally serious.

Oh def not snarky at all.

I agree with you. Parents might not be as with it as they were back then (but also back then things people didnt know made issues as well haha) I know that things that were acceptable when we were kids wouldnt fly nowadays. I will be asking my mom for advice because she just knows more than a book or website could tell me.

KCD053109 · September 2011

What am I missing about the chicken pox vaccine? Why wouldn't you get it for your child?

I have 3 siblings and they all got the chicken pox growing up? for some reason or other I never did. I've been tested and I do NOT have the antibodies against it; knowing what I do about how it affects adults I run like the wind whenever I hear about another child being sick with it.

I've contemplated getting the vaccine myself but the stats, as I understood them at the time, scared me away from pursuing it.

mrs.gee · September 2011

KCD053109:

What am I missing about the chicken pox vaccine? Why wouldn't you get it for your child?

I have 3 siblings and they all got the chicken pox growing up? for some reason or other I never did. I've been tested and I do NOT have the antibodies against it; knowing what I do about how it affects adults I run like the wind whenever I hear about another child being sick with it.

I've contemplated getting the vaccine myself but the stats, as I understood them at the time, scared me away from pursuing it.

I'm not sure. Personally, I had a mild case of chicken pox as a child then was tested in my teens for the antibodies and did not have them. So I was vaccinated, then tested again in my 20s and still did not have them and was vaccinated again. And I STILL do not have them. So unfortunately it didn't "take" for me. But I would do the vaccine if my freaking body would cooperate!

alinnolan · September 2011

mrs.gee:
KCD053109:

What am I missing about the chicken pox vaccine? Why wouldn't you get it for your child?

I have 3 siblings and they all got the chicken pox growing up? for some reason or other I never did. I've been tested and I do NOT have the antibodies against it; knowing what I do about how it affects adults I run like the wind whenever I hear about another child being sick with it.

I've contemplated getting the vaccine myself but the stats, as I understood them at the time, scared me away from pursuing it.

I'm not sure. Personally, I had a mild case of chicken pox as a child then was tested in my teens for the antibodies and did not have them. So I was vaccinated, then tested again in my 20s and still did not have them and was vaccinated again. And I STILL do not have them. So unfortunately it didn't "take" for me. But I would do the vaccine if my freaking body would cooperate!

For me its just the idea that some vaccines are obviously important, but I'm not sure that ALL of them are. Doctors will tell you that you need everything that comes down the creek. And I dont know that you should do everything the doctor tells you to just because they are a doctor. So I need more information to decide against it or for it.

LillyGrrl · September 2011

I want to mention this, for the mother who said they she opted against rotovirus vaccine:

"1 in 150 children were hospitalized because of rotavirus infection and another 1 in 11 visited an emergency room or visited an outpatient clinic for rotavirus infection."

And IT'S HIGHLY HIGHLY contagious and babies who are very small who can't get the vaccine are at a higher risk. Not to metion the pain you put your child through that they could avoid. Personally, if my child doesn't have to suffer I won't her let her. And Rotovirus vaccine isn't even a shot, its a liquid taken orally. This is a potentially deadly virus for children, even if first world countries.

As the poster who posted about mono- once you've had a mono spot test and tested positive the mono spot will always be postive because the test tests for antibodies which your body has made because you already had the disease. Moreover you may have the chronic form of the disease often called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or less commonly known as Epstein Barr syndrome.

Needless to say we vax on schedule. I read the vaccine book and did a lot of research before we had our DD and the risks of her getting these diseases (mainly because of folks who delay or refuse to vax) outweighed any potential risk.

JennPierog · September 2011

I voted yes however if I didn't have to put my baby in daycare I would do delayed only beacuse I feel that we give two many vaccines all at once. As an adult I had to my my D-TAP vaccine and they warned me to take tylenol and holy sh!t I had a fever of 101 and felt like poop! I will not do the hep b at birth. I was vaccinated as a child for hep b and had to be revaccinated as an adult beacuse I didn't have the antibodies.

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