Soooo... if you work, you're not a full time mom? WTF? Maybe I'm just hormonal and b!tchy today, but that expression rubs me the wrong way (saw it on another board).
I dont mind most terms for stay at home moms--but I'm not a fan of that one. Domestic Engineer--fine if that makes you feel better go for it, but I'm not a fan of the full time mom.
I can think of several moms who don't have jobs outside the home who are less of a full time mom than several moms who work and parent.
Yeah that does kinda rub me the wrong way. I work really hard to be a good mom, but I need to work to provide health insurance for my family. Why does that make me less of a mom? I'm doing the right thing, right?
Yes, that phrase definitely annoys me... My first and most important job is to be a wife & mother- and consider myself a FT mom (you will always be a mother)... But I also work a full time job to help provide for my family.
You are no less a mother because of this, just maybe a little over tired
Yes. I also hate the argument that SAHMs work. All moms work to take care of their kids. When we say WOHM or WAHM, we all know that we're talking about a job.
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Yes. I also hate the argument that SAHMs work. All moms work to take care of their kids. When we say WOHM or WAHM, we all know that we're talking about a job.
Amen to this! Yes we all know it's work to stay at home. That doesn't mean I get to say that I have 2 full time jobs because I work outside of the house as well!
Yep. Annoying. There's no such thing as a part-time mom. No one calls working dads "part-time dads."
This.
I defintely roll my eyes whenever I see that phrase, and then I pity the woman who is using it because she's probably just trying really hard to justify her choices.
However, next time my sister refers to herself as such I'm totally going to ask her husband how he feels about being only a part-time father.
I think it's totally inappropriate and annoying. I also think that most of the people referring to themselves as a full time mom are making a really shitty statement about working moms by doing so.
It irritates me too. I still have just as much mom work to do as a SAHM- taking care of kids, cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. and I also get to work/commute 50hrs a week. When people ask me what I do, I don't say "I have 2 full time jobs."
It irritates me too. I still have just as much mom work to do as a SAHM- taking care of kids, cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. and I also get to work/commute 50hrs a week. When people ask me what I do, I don't say "I have 2 full time jobs."
Don't ever read any of their To Do lists then... (yes, sometimes I pop over to the SAHM board out of curiosity).
I've lurked over there out of curiosity too lol. I never read those though, b/c I'm already stressed out enough by my own To Do List.
It irritates me too. I still have just as much mom work to do as a SAHM- taking care of kids, cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. and I also get to work/commute 50hrs a week. When people ask me what I do, I don't say "I have 2 full time jobs."
Don't ever read any of their To Do lists then... (yes, sometimes I pop over to the SAHM board out of curiosity).
Oh lord, I didn't even know they posted To Do lists... here's a real one that I just copied:
"Gym, Laundry, Tidy House"
Wow. I do those things almost every day AND work at a very stressful job. I know, I know, the SAHM board is for SAHM and I shouldn't read it and get my panties in a bunch because obviously, our lives are different. I guess we are all entitled to have our own perspectives on what constitutes a full day.
It irritates me too. I still have just as much mom work to do as a SAHM- taking care of kids, cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. and I also get to work/commute 50hrs a week. When people ask me what I do, I don't say "I have 2 full time jobs."
Don't ever read any of their To Do lists then... (yes, sometimes I pop over to the SAHM board out of curiosity).
I've lurked over there out of curiosity too lol. I never read those though, b/c I'm already stressed out enough by my own To Do List.
I have never lurked there so I just read one of the "To Do" lists. What they do all day long, I do in 3 hours after work:
3 loads of laundry to put away
1-2 loads to wash and dry
Dinner to cook
Stop by store for milk
Do dishes
What is missing from my list? All the fun stuff with my son that they get to do.
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Don't ever read any of their To Do lists then... (yes, sometimes I pop over to the SAHM board out of curiosity).
BAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god I now know where to go for free entertainment.
I cannot believe that tasks like "weigh in" and "empty diaper pail" count as an item on the list. A) They take like 2 seconds to do and that's stuff you just do; you don't need to put it on a list.
Wow... You know, I was a regular here for 2 years. After reading these responses, I'm really glad I don't frequent this board anymore.
Why perpetuate the mommy wars? Who cares? Be happy with your own choices. If you want to work, work. If you want to stay home, then stay home. If you want to list your to-do's, who cares? Oh, I know who cares...a bunch of petty women that have nothing better to do that judge another mom's choices.
Wow... You know, I was a regular here for 2 years. After reading these responses, I'm really glad I don't frequent this board anymore.
Why perpetuate the mommy wars? Who cares? Be happy with your own choices. If you want to work, work. If you want to stay home, then stay home. If you want to list your to-do's, who cares? Oh, I know who cares...a bunch of petty women that have nothing better to do that judge another mom's choices.
Pardon me, I thought the working mom board was a place where working moms could empathize with one another. I don't post on the SAHM board, because I don't relate to that situation. I post here, where women who are in the same boat can commiserate with me. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I'm glad someone pointed it out, but a lot of you are being very judgy. As someone who stayed home with my son for 2 years and is now working outside of the home, I know both sides.
Don't get all uppity about some SAHMs feeling the need to justify their choice when it's women like YOU who make them feel insecure in the first place with your eye rolls at their To Do lists.
What happened to live and let live? Be happy with YOUR choice and don't presume to know that you have it the hardest.
Eh, doesn't bother me. I always just thought of it as a way for someone to define herself with a title. I never thought it implied I wasn't mothering my DS.
I'm glad someone pointed it out, but a lot of you are being very judgy. As someone who stayed home with my son for 2 years and is now working outside of the home, I know both sides.
Don't get all uppity about some SAHMs feeling the need to justify their choice when it's women like YOU who make them feel insecure in the first place with your eye rolls at their To Do lists.
What happened to live and let live? Be happy with YOUR choice and don't presume to know that you have it the hardest.
This. It is very egocentric to think you do more, think more, feel more than anyone else in the world. Being a mom is hard work PERIOD.
Wow... You know, I was a regular here for 2 years. After reading these responses, I'm really glad I don't frequent this board anymore.
Why perpetuate the mommy wars? Who cares? Be happy with your own choices. If you want to work, work. If you want to stay home, then stay home. If you want to list your to-do's, who cares? Oh, I know who cares...a bunch of petty women that have nothing better to do that judge another mom's choices.
Pardon me, I thought the working mom board was a place where working moms could empathize with one another. I don't post on the SAHM board, because I don't relate to that situation. I post here, where women who are in the same boat can commiserate with me. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Are you trying to imply that I shouldn't post here??? LOL. Where's Spenjamins!
And empathize...that's not exactly what this post is full of, is it? Who cares what another mom calls herself? I personally think the term "full time mom" is stupid, and anyone who uses it is mommy-martyr-ish at the very least.
Last I checked, the WM board was full of confident, empowered women who were happy with their lives. I guess it's changed??
Wow... You know, I was a regular here for 2 years. After reading these responses, I'm really glad I don't frequent this board anymore.
Why perpetuate the mommy wars? Who cares? Be happy with your own choices. If you want to work, work. If you want to stay home, then stay home. If you want to list your to-do's, who cares? Oh, I know who cares...a bunch of petty women that have nothing better to do that judge another mom's choices.
Pardon me, I thought the working mom board was a place where working moms could empathize with one another. I don't post on the SAHM board, because I don't relate to that situation. I post here, where women who are in the same boat can commiserate with me. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Are you trying to imply that I shouldn't post here??? LOL. Where's Spenjamins!
And empathize...that's not exactly what this post is full of, is it? Who cares what another mom calls herself? I personally think the term "full time mom" is stupid, and anyone who uses it is mommy-martyr-ish at the very least.
Last I checked, the WM board was full of confident, empowered women who were happy with their lives. I guess it's changed??
Oh FFS. Of course I'm not saying you can't post. Post whereever you want. All I'm saying is that as a working mom, I would not post something that I find annoying as a working mom on the SAH board. Why is that so hard to understand? And for the SAH moms that are all in a tizzy, you can't honestly tell me there aren't things that working moms do that make you batsh!t crazy, or that they don't understand your day to day. Of course it goes both ways. My point was that you probably wouldn't post that on the working moms board. But whatever.
Wow... You know, I was a regular here for 2 years. After reading these responses, I'm really glad I don't frequent this board anymore.
Why perpetuate the mommy wars? Who cares? Be happy with your own choices. If you want to work, work. If you want to stay home, then stay home. If you want to list your to-do's, who cares? Oh, I know who cares...a bunch of petty women that have nothing better to do that judge another mom's choices.
Pardon me, I thought the working mom board was a place where working moms could empathize with one another. I don't post on the SAHM board, because I don't relate to that situation. I post here, where women who are in the same boat can commiserate with me. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Are you trying to imply that I shouldn't post here??? LOL. Where's Spenjamins!
And empathize...that's not exactly what this post is full of, is it? Who cares what another mom calls herself? I personally think the term "full time mom" is stupid, and anyone who uses it is mommy-martyr-ish at the very least.
Last I checked, the WM board was full of confident, empowered women who were happy with their lives. I guess it's changed??
Oh FFS. Of course I'm not saying you can't post. Post whereever you want. All I'm saying is that as a working mom, I would not post something that I find annoying as a working mom on the SAH board. Why is that so hard to understand? And for the SAH moms that are all in a tizzy, you can't honestly tell me there aren't things that working moms do that make you batsh!t crazy, or that they don't understand your day to day. Of course it goes both ways. My point was that you probably wouldn't post that on the working moms board. But whatever.
I really, honestly don't care whether people work or not. If the family is happy, then that's all that matters.
I just hate the generalization of "wm's do this" and "sahm's are this way" because they just aren't true. I was a very happy working Mom until my DD was 2 years old. I am now a very happy SAHM. I'm still the same kind of Mom though, my mothering didn't change just because I don't work outside of the home anymore. I didn't judge my SAHM friends when I worked, and I feel no need to judge WM's now that I SAH.
Someone on another board said this... "Maybe you should water your own lawn, instead of looking at your neighbor's and being jealous of how green it is". I think that quote fits perfectly in this discussion.
It's not necessarily *you* that I am responding to, mostly my answers are in response to the 10+ other responders who are making fun of the to-do's posters. Seriously? Who cares? Spend more time making YOUR life better instead of worrying about what other people are doing.
Being a mother is hard work, period. For me, being a SAHM would be extremely hard, that's why I'm not one.
This thread started off as a scoff at the notion of a "full time mom"; sorry, but it is a stupid term and it's demeaning to all fathers and working mothers.
I frankly don't care what anyone else's To Do list looks like, I'm too busy trying to accomplush everything on my own.
It's this kinda stuff that makes SAHMs think working moms are "just jealous." Some people just like to make lists FFS. I thrive on post-its and to do lists at work. If I stayed home, I'd probably have a list and go through a pad of post-its every month.
I just find this thread amusing since the only time I have ever heard the term "full time mom" it was used in conjunction with working. As in "I am a teacher and a full time mom". I have never heard the term used in a way that would suggest WM are not full time moms. Or in a way that had to do with being a SAHM.
It irritates me too. I still have just as much mom work to do as a SAHM- taking care of kids, cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. and I also get to work/commute 50hrs a week. When people ask me what I do, I don't say "I have 2 full time jobs."
Don't ever read any of their To Do lists then... (yes, sometimes I pop over to the SAHM board out of curiosity).
I've lurked over there out of curiosity too lol. I never read those though, b/c I'm already stressed out enough by my own To Do List.
I have never lurked there so I just read one of the "To Do" lists. What they do all day long, I do in 3 hours after work:
3 loads of laundry to put away
1-2 loads to wash and dry
Dinner to cook
Stop by store for milk
Do dishes
What is missing from my list? All the fun stuff with my son that they get to do.
Really?
That's obviously not ALL they have to do in a day. In between those things they are, you know, caring for their children. Do you say that your DCP does nothing all day because they are "just" taking care of kids? Sorry if you're not happy with your situation, but does making fun of other moms help it?
The term "full time mom" doesn't bother me. I understand what they mean. As in, "this is what I do all of the time". I don't think it's meant as a slight any more than calling us "working moms" is meant to be a slight to moms who don't work outside the home, though I could see how a SAHM might be offended by it.
Re: anyone else annoyed by the phrase "full time mom"?
I dont mind most terms for stay at home moms--but I'm not a fan of that one. Domestic Engineer--fine if that makes you feel better go for it, but I'm not a fan of the full time mom.
I can think of several moms who don't have jobs outside the home who are less of a full time mom than several moms who work and parent.
Amen, sister.
Yes, that phrase definitely annoys me... My first and most important job is to be a wife & mother- and consider myself a FT mom (you will always be a mother)... But I also work a full time job to help provide for my family.
You are no less a mother because of this, just maybe a little over tired
Ditto!
On the flip side, though, I think a lot of SAHMs hate the term "working mom" because it somehow implies what they do is not work.
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Amen to this! Yes we all know it's work to stay at home. That doesn't mean I get to say that I have 2 full time jobs because I work outside of the house as well!
This.
I defintely roll my eyes whenever I see that phrase, and then I pity the woman who is using it because she's probably just trying really hard to justify her choices.
However, next time my sister refers to herself as such I'm totally going to ask her husband how he feels about being only a part-time father.
This all the way! I feel that just because I work and help provide for my family does not make me a part time mom.
yep. full time mom and mr. mom annoy me.
mr. mom- no you are a dad. you can and should do everything that a mom does (except breastfeed).
I think it's totally inappropriate and annoying. I also think that most of the people referring to themselves as a full time mom are making a really shitty statement about working moms by doing so.
I've lurked over there out of curiosity too lol. I never read those though, b/c I'm already stressed out enough by my own To Do List.
Oh lord, I didn't even know they posted To Do lists... here's a real one that I just copied:
"Gym, Laundry, Tidy House"
Wow. I do those things almost every day AND work at a very stressful job. I know, I know, the SAHM board is for SAHM and I shouldn't read it and get my panties in a bunch because obviously, our lives are different. I guess we are all entitled to have our own perspectives on what constitutes a full day.
I have never lurked there so I just read one of the "To Do" lists. What they do all day long, I do in 3 hours after work:
3 loads of laundry to put away
1-2 loads to wash and dry
Dinner to cook
Stop by store for milk
Do dishes
What is missing from my list? All the fun stuff with my son that they get to do.
BAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god I now know where to go for free entertainment.
I cannot believe that tasks like "weigh in" and "empty diaper pail" count as an item on the list. A) They take like 2 seconds to do and
that's stuff you just do; you don't need to put it on a list.
Hilaaarious!
those "to do" lists also need:
Don't kill self from boredom
Wow... You know, I was a regular here for 2 years. After reading these responses, I'm really glad I don't frequent this board anymore.
Why perpetuate the mommy wars? Who cares? Be happy with your own choices. If you want to work, work. If you want to stay home, then stay home. If you want to list your to-do's, who cares? Oh, I know who cares...a bunch of petty women that have nothing better to do that judge another mom's choices.
Pardon me, I thought the working mom board was a place where working moms could empathize with one another. I don't post on the SAHM board, because I don't relate to that situation. I post here, where women who are in the same boat can commiserate with me. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I'm glad someone pointed it out, but a lot of you are being very judgy. As someone who stayed home with my son for 2 years and is now working outside of the home, I know both sides.
Don't get all uppity about some SAHMs feeling the need to justify their choice when it's women like YOU who make them feel insecure in the first place with your eye rolls at their To Do lists.
What happened to live and let live? Be happy with YOUR choice and don't presume to know that you have it the hardest.
This. It is very egocentric to think you do more, think more, feel more than anyone else in the world. Being a mom is hard work PERIOD.
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Are you trying to imply that I shouldn't post here??? LOL. Where's Spenjamins!
And empathize...that's not exactly what this post is full of, is it? Who cares what another mom calls herself? I personally think the term "full time mom" is stupid, and anyone who uses it is mommy-martyr-ish at the very least.
Last I checked, the WM board was full of confident, empowered women who were happy with their lives. I guess it's changed??
Oh FFS. Of course I'm not saying you can't post. Post whereever you want. All I'm saying is that as a working mom, I would not post something that I find annoying as a working mom on the SAH board. Why is that so hard to understand? And for the SAH moms that are all in a tizzy, you can't honestly tell me there aren't things that working moms do that make you batsh!t crazy, or that they don't understand your day to day. Of course it goes both ways. My point was that you probably wouldn't post that on the working moms board. But whatever.
I really, honestly don't care whether people work or not. If the family is happy, then that's all that matters.
I just hate the generalization of "wm's do this" and "sahm's are this way" because they just aren't true. I was a very happy working Mom until my DD was 2 years old. I am now a very happy SAHM. I'm still the same kind of Mom though, my mothering didn't change just because I don't work outside of the home anymore. I didn't judge my SAHM friends when I worked, and I feel no need to judge WM's now that I SAH.
Someone on another board said this... "Maybe you should water your own lawn, instead of looking at your neighbor's and being jealous of how green it is". I think that quote fits perfectly in this discussion.
It's not necessarily *you* that I am responding to, mostly my answers are in response to the 10+ other responders who are making fun of the to-do's posters. Seriously? Who cares? Spend more time making YOUR life better instead of worrying about what other people are doing.
Being a mother is hard work, period. For me, being a SAHM would be extremely hard, that's why I'm not one.
This thread started off as a scoff at the notion of a "full time mom"; sorry, but it is a stupid term and it's demeaning to all fathers and working mothers.
I frankly don't care what anyone else's To Do list looks like, I'm too busy trying to accomplush everything on my own.
Yeah, it is a bit silly to label yourself that.
In terms of the "to-do lists" maybe it's a way for them to remember what they need to do or be accountable.
It's this kinda stuff that makes SAHMs think working moms are "just jealous." Some people just like to make lists FFS. I thrive on post-its and to do lists at work. If I stayed home, I'd probably have a list and go through a pad of post-its every month.
I appreciate the need to vent, but come on.
Really?
That's obviously not ALL they have to do in a day. In between those things they are, you know, caring for their children. Do you say that your DCP does nothing all day because they are "just" taking care of kids? Sorry if you're not happy with your situation, but does making fun of other moms help it?
The term "full time mom" doesn't bother me. I understand what they mean. As in, "this is what I do all of the time". I don't think it's meant as a slight any more than calling us "working moms" is meant to be a slight to moms who don't work outside the home, though I could see how a SAHM might be offended by it.