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I am at the end of my rope with my daughter... right now she is no longer dear (DD) to me...she will now be called "pain that was spawned from my body" PTWSFMB hmm maybe PSFB.

Eitherway, long story short...she was caught abusing her privliages with her cell phone and FB and was immediately taken offline with EVERYTHING except gmail which I use to communicate with her. (I'm really ashamed at her behavior and really don't want to repeat it) She is grounded for a month.  No, fun times, no riding horses, no going over to family's house, no friends yadda yadda.  She was allowed tv(no cable but had netflix), ipod and DS...that's all she had left.

Reason why I left some "doors" open was for her to prove to me that she can be responsible.  I wanted to leave her ways that she could regain some sort of trust.  Trust that she can be responsible, trust that she tells the truth, and trust that she can be mature enough for the freedoms we give her.

Earlier this week she was caught using gmail to chat with friends...we sat down, had a discussion and she fed me these insincere "Meet the Press" apologies which sometimes are more annoying then her breaking the rules.  After repeatedly telling me that she won't do it again...I caught her AGAIN today talking to a different friend.

 I'm DONE!!  I guess I will not only have to take away the rest of her outlets BUT I'm going to start making her read books and give me book reports with her time.  I don't know what to do after that...I don't know what I'm doing... I don't know how to convey to her just how important trust is... I haven't purchased her a single item of clothing for school because of this...I've just purchased her school supplies.  She does her chores....

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  • I've got no advice, but just wanted to say hang in there. 13... I'm terrified.
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  • Hm, must be pretty bad. (I'm imagining something along the lines of sexting/nasty emails to boys...)

    She's a teenager. Taking away privileges is going to cause resentment, but IMO, the only way to get your point across. If she keeps it up, you may have to tell her she can't attend school functions she wants to attend (Homecoming, after-school activites, etc). I know as a teen, that would've had me singing a different tune.

    Sorry you're having to deal with this... Just keep saying to yourself: she'll be 18 soon enough... she'll be 18 soon enough... ;)

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  • Sorry you're dealing with this. 13 is one age I'm not looking forward to.
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  • I can't imagine.  I am going to have two of those in 13 years.  I am terrified. 
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  • Ugh. I'm sorry! I may be on the news with you soon. I have an 11 and 9 yo SD that are currently staring at the wall after school because literally all their privileges have been revoked. When CPS shows up at my door because of their lies I figure that's only fair.  I'm not looking forward to 13.

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  • I am so so sorry! Teenagers, ugh! What sucks is no matter how much you explain that she made the choice to disobey so those are the consequences, she'll think you are the meanest meanie on earth. I wish I had some advice:(.

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  • I have no idea what I'm going to do when B is 13. My mom would start punishment over of I some how broke a rule while grounded. I think at this point my mom would have given me nothing and made me clean random stuff ha. childhood. I should call my mom and say sorry!
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  • sigh...I'll just tell you.  Yes, it was on the lines of sexting.  She was at her friends house with two other girls and they were texting a boy on Liz's cell phone that she wanted to have sex with him "make love".  Her story (the end one I got) was that they were all joking around with him and thought it was funny and that it wasn't her typing the stuff but her friends.  I don't give a sh!t who texted it...it was on her phone, she shouldn't allow access to her phone and saying that you want to have sex with some boy IS NOT FUNNY!!!! It could lead to horrible horrible consequences and she needs to know this.  Another aspect of the phone was that she was talking like a trucker dropping the F-bomb with each text...this one really didn't bother me too much because in the context of the texts going back n forth they were just joking around...I get that, I was 13.

    FB the issue was her lieing about herself.  We have family members on there that know her and know she's not being truthful with somethings.

    ugh, I don't want to choke her so bad that she will rebel and then really fly off the handle...but I don't want to do NOTHING either.  It's a very hard line to walk...I feel like the village idiot and failing her.  On the other hand I do understand that she is 13.

    I'm sorry, I really don't want to scare any of you.  This is just me and doesn't mean that you will have to go through the same problems.  I don't want to FAIL my daughter by reacting poorly...

    Thank God for Jacob...because he is the ONLY reason why I still like kids right now.

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  • My only suggestion would be to be up in ALL of her business.  If she wants a gmail account, share the password so you have access to it. Same thing with FB and any other social media. Let her know you're going to be checking her phone/texts regularly. 

    Or, you could just lock her in a padded room until she's 30.  Either way. 

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    I am so so sorry! Teenagers, ugh! What sucks is no matter how much you explain that she made the choice to disobey so those are the consequences, she'll think you are the meanest meanie on earth. I wish I had some advice:(.

    Yup, I'm the bad guy... But you know what, even though I feel like running away right now...I'd rather care for her and be the b!tch mother then the cool one who allows anything and everything. 

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    imageAshasaurusRex:

    I am so so sorry! Teenagers, ugh! What sucks is no matter how much you explain that she made the choice to disobey so those are the consequences, she'll think you are the meanest meanie on earth. I wish I had some advice:(.

    Yup, I'm the bad guy... But you know what, even though I feel like running away right now...I'd rather care for her and be the b!tch mother then the cool one who allows anything and everything. 

    I think you're doing a good job with consequences, too many people are afraid to drop the hammer you know? Consistency is your friend.
  • It would be so difficult to have a teenage daughter in this day and age. I have no clue, except having not so long ago been a teenage girl, I will tell you that I was in no way mature enough at 13...14...even 16 for my mom to just trust me. She knew our passwords and checked things frequently, always knew where we were and who was with us (even checking at times by showing up).  I hated her and was totally embarassed, but am SO thankful now. 

    I lost a lot of friends because I wasn't able to go to parties and that was what they were in to, but by senior year of high school, when my whole group of friends (from when I was younger) were all coke heads, failing school, and/or pregnant. I am so glad she was involved enough to keep me out of all that, because at that age you don't have the best logic and nothing matters more than what your peers think.

    You are a strong lady  and I admire you for caring enough about your daughter to check in on her. It will be a long few years, but she will certainly appreciate you when she gets older. You deserve a beer. 

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  • Ugh I am so not looking forward to that.  Right now I know my middle child will be trouble as a teen. Are you sure we cant just lock them up till they are reasonable adults?
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    It would be so difficult to have a teenage daughter in this day and age. I have no clue, except having not so long ago been a teenage girl, I will tell you that I was in no way mature enough at 13...14...even 16 for my mom to just trust me. She knew our passwords and checked things frequently, always knew where we were and who was with us (even checking at times by showing up).  I hated her and was totally embarassed, but am SO thankful now. 

    I lost a lot of friends because I wasn't able to go to parties and that was what they were in to, but by senior year of high school, when my whole group of friends (from when I was younger) were all coke heads, failing school, and/or pregnant. I am so glad she was involved enough to keep me out of all that, because at that age you don't have the best logic and nothing matters more than what your peers think.

    You are a strong lady  and I admire you for caring enough about your daughter to check in on her. It will be a long few years, but she will certainly appreciate you when she gets older. You deserve a beer. 

    Thank you!  Wow, thank you for your response...I can't tell you how much that makes me feel better in what I've been trying to do with Liz...

    I want Liz to be her own person, and learn life lessons.  I want to be a good guide for her.  But that requires trust.  After reading what you had to say about trusting teenagers; perhaps you have a point there.  Maybe I need to mix around how I'm approaching things.  I'll have to ponder this some more.

    This sounds odd to me but.... Thanks, Tits ;)

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  • Thank you everyone for the encouragement and uh... good luck in about 12 years
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  • I know this is a rough situation, but I don't know if making books a punishment really sends the right message. Educational things shouldn't be a punishment IMO. I'm a teacher, so I see this method used pretty frequently with parents and it never solves the true issue. I would look for punishments that more closely fit with her situation.
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    I know this is a rough situation, but I don't know if making books a punishment really sends the right message. Educational things shouldn't be a punishment IMO. I'm a teacher, so I see this method used pretty frequently with parents and it never solves the true issue. I would look for punishments that more closely fit with her situation.
    I wasn't going to use it as a punishment perse... More of something to occupy her time during whatever vacation she has left BUT... Noted on your point.
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    imageTitts McGeee:

    It would be so difficult to have a teenage daughter in this day and age. I have no clue, except having not so long ago been a teenage girl, I will tell you that I was in no way mature enough at 13...14...even 16 for my mom to just trust me. She knew our passwords and checked things frequently, always knew where we were and who was with us (even checking at times by showing up).  I hated her and was totally embarassed, but am SO thankful now. 

    I lost a lot of friends because I wasn't able to go to parties and that was what they were in to, but by senior year of high school, when my whole group of friends (from when I was younger) were all coke heads, failing school, and/or pregnant. I am so glad she was involved enough to keep me out of all that, because at that age you don't have the best logic and nothing matters more than what your peers think.

    You are a strong lady  and I admire you for caring enough about your daughter to check in on her. It will be a long few years, but she will certainly appreciate you when she gets older. You deserve a beer. 

    Thank you!  Wow, thank you for your response...I can't tell you how much that makes me feel better in what I've been trying to do with Liz...

    I want Liz to be her own person, and learn life lessons.  I want to be a good guide for her.  But that requires trust.  After reading what you had to say about trusting teenagers; perhaps you have a point there.  Maybe I need to mix around how I'm approaching things.  I'll have to ponder this some more.

    This sounds odd to me but.... Thanks, Tits ;)

    You're welcome to my unsolicited parenting advice anytime! Let us know how things go.  

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  • imageDeadOktober:
    imagenbeseau:
    I know this is a rough situation, but I don't know if making books a punishment really sends the right message. Educational things shouldn't be a punishment IMO. I'm a teacher, so I see this method used pretty frequently with parents and it never solves the true issue. I would look for punishments that more closely fit with her situation.
    I wasn't going to use it as a punishment perse... More of something to occupy her time during whatever vacation she has left BUT... Noted on your point.

    Make it something that will benefit you! Chores, chores, chores! Lol- you could have a sparkling clean, spotless house by the time she's ungrounded! Seriously.

    It sounds like a typical teenage lack of foresight- they just can't see that 1. things send electronically/via the internet stay there forever and 2. that once they hit "send" it's out of their control- the recipient can pass it on, share it, etc.

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  • Have you guys had the consequences of sex talk yet? Not just pregnancy, but like, herpes and other sexual transmitted infections. My sister works with teens talking about sex and STIs in high school, and she finds that pointing out that gonorrhea and genital warts are more forever than a baby. Maybe taking her down to a health unit to talk to a nurse and be shown the grossly graphic pictures of STIs might make an impression?

    Is there any charitable/volunteer work she can do to occupy her time? Like at a food bank or outreach centre?

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  • That sounds so frustrating...I am not looking forward to teenage years!

    Oh and BTW, the picture in your siggy of your older DD, the second from the left that you used to have bigger, I totally thought that was you until now, looking at your new layout. I always thought "she looks sooo young!" haha

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  • imageDeadOktober:
    imagenbeseau:
    I know this is a rough situation, but I don't know if making books a punishment really sends the right message. Educational things shouldn't be a punishment IMO. I'm a teacher, so I see this method used pretty frequently with parents and it never solves the true issue. I would look for punishments that more closely fit with her situation.
    I wasn't going to use it as a punishment perse... More of something to occupy her time during whatever vacation she has left BUT... Noted on your point.

    I have no idea what you're going through...but I have to agree with PP. Reading/Writing as punishment rubs me the wrong way. Limiting her freedom to reading can be a good thing, book reports might be over the line. But I am ONLY speaking as a teacher, not a parent. I am so sorry. Like everyone else has said....I am totally not looking forward to those days.  

  • My mom would punish me by waking my ass up at the crack of dawn to do yard work, paint things (one summer it was every room in the house), etc. It sucked, but she knew just grounding me wasn't enough because I was content to sit around and read all day. I was a bad teenager...crashed my friend's car without a license, shoplifted, drank, messed around with boys, lied...and it took my mom embarrassing me by checking up on me, calling to talk to parents of friends to make sure our stories matched, etc before I straightened out. The summer I was her slave she assigned a value to each chore and had me working off the cost of the car (I totaled it and my parents cut a check to the friend's dad). Lucky for me it was an old car! Man I hope my daughter is nothing like me. Lol!
  • Just coming back to say that I think you're doing a great job, and that being in her business and disciplining her is soooooo much better then brushing it off. Because that would be the easier thing to do, to just let it go. But you are teaching her that there are consequences to her actions which is something she'll need when she comes out in the real world. You know she will think twice before doing something like that again! I also had strict parents and even though I didn't grow up with the internet or cell phones, they made darn sure that I was not doing anything I shouldn't and I'm very grateful for that.
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    Have you guys had the consequences of sex talk yet? Not just pregnancy, but like, herpes and other sexual transmitted infections. My sister works with teens talking about sex and STIs in high school, and she finds that pointing out that gonorrhea and genital warts are more forever than a baby. Maybe taking her down to a health unit to talk to a nurse and be shown the grossly graphic pictures of STIs might make an impression?

    Is there any charitable/volunteer work she can do to occupy her time? Like at a food bank or outreach centre?

    Yes, we have had the sex discussion a few times. Tried to explain STDs to her without the pics... I got more reaction then understanding I think. This last time we touched up on rape, teenage boys and without saying pr!ck tease discussed on how boys might interpret what you say. Ugh, I hate sex talk with my baby...
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  • I'm just here to say that I think it's great that you're doing your best to keep your daughter out of trouble. I had probably the most lenient parents on earth, and it took me getting taken to my dad's house by the police to get me to realize that I was being a dumbazz and needed desperately to tone down my lifestyle. In the end I wish my parents had done more to keep me home, instead I was around binge drinking and whoring around.
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  • I have a 16 yr old son and a 14 year old daughter and an 11 yr old daughter and I am all up in everything especially phone, email and facebook.  I have all the passwords etc.  Luckily with my son I can take away his truck so that works well now.  My 14 yr old is thirty stuck in a teenage body.   My 11 yr old however we are having issues with not sexting of course but lies and such.  It seems that chores are working well as punishment, no one wants to clean toilets, is your daughter involved in anything outside of school or extra things at school?
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    I have a 16 yr old son and a 14 year old daughter and an 11 yr old daughter and I am all up in everything especially phone, email and facebook.  I have all the passwords etc.  Luckily with my son I can take away his truck so that works well now.  My 14 yr old is thirty stuck in a teenage body.   My 11 yr old however we are having issues with not sexting of course but lies and such.  It seems that chores are working well as punishment, no one wants to clean toilets, is your daughter involved in anything outside of school or extra things at school?

    This is the thing...she is involved with horses was going to start voluteering at the YMCA, she does all her chores, keeps her room clean AND she rocks a 3.8-4.0.  Given her successes with everything I dont know why she is doing this!  I have all of her passwords and accounts.  I monitor the HELL out of her.  The crap she pulled was while she was at a friend's house which got her grounded in the first place...she knows better...grrrr

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