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  • No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?
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  • Our reason isn't really a huge one. My husband is so he wants our son to be, I left the decision up to him and that's what he choose. We don't know if we are having a boy or girl though so we made the decision a while ago since it will have to be quick thought in the delivery room.
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  • I've kind of left this decision up to DH, as he's the only one with the relevant "equipment" so I feel like he'll be able to make a better decision than I will.

    If it were up to me, I don't think we would. DH wants to have it done though, so I'm deferring to him. It may not matter, though, as we still don't know the sex.

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  • My 2 boys are not and if this one is a boy he will not be [when I was asked at my intake appointment for this one I said no and the nurse responded by saying "They will thank you when they are older"].

    We did research before our 1st son as to the reasoning and the history behind it [which was interesting but we found no reason].

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  • Why mutilate your child for no good reason.  I have seen filmed footage of one performed and could not put my newborn child through that trauma. I don't know if I'm having a boy or girl, but if it is a he circumcision is not an option.
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    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    I'm not arguing for or against circumcision, but I just wanted to address the point and question in bold.

    Circumcision is a surgery, and parents aren't typically allowed to be in the room for most surgical procedures. It usually has more to do with being sterile and not getting in the way than it does with a surgery being too "traumatizing" to watch. My brother had to have surgery on his ear as a toddler, and my parents couldn't be with him for that, either. The surgery was absolutely necessary as he'd had an injury, and them not being able to watch him certainly wouldn't have been a good argument against it.

    There are several valid arguments against circumcision, but I don't think not being allowed to be in the room during a surgical procedure is one of them.

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  • We did with our first and will with our second (if it's a boy obviously).  I left it up to my husband who is a surgeon, I trust his judgement. 

    Our son actually ended up peeing all over the room and nurse ;p 

  • We both agreed that DS will be circumsized. It was a personal decision for us, just like it is for people who decide against it. 
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  • I voted "not sure" since we aren't sure what we're having.  But when we've topically discussed this before, we both were for circumcision.  I've done a tone of reading, talking to close guy friends (with BF present!) - some who are, and some who aren't, and my decision is still to do it, but BF will hvae veto power if he would like since he's the only one in this relationship with the plumbing on the outside.  Just like he let me decide re: earrings for our daughter. 

    It's a truly personal decision, and nowadays I don't think either is generally "frowned" upon.

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  • After going through what I saw in nursing school and what I have learned, I would prefer not to.  I have told DH how I feel about it, but he still wants our LO (if turning out to be a boy) circumcised.  He feels that because he was, the baby should be and because my first son was (I was 16 and didn't really do any research). 

    So ultimately, I will let it be DH's decision knowing that I gave him all the information I am aware of :)

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    imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    I'm not arguing for or against circumcision, but I just wanted to address the point and question in bold.

    Circumcision is a surgery, and parents aren't typically allowed to be in the room for most surgical procedures. It usually has more to do with being sterile and not getting in the way than it does with a surgery being too "traumatizing" to watch. My brother had to have surgery on his ear as a toddler, and my parents couldn't be with him for that, either. The surgery was absolutely necessary as he'd had an injury, and them not being able to watch him certainly wouldn't have been a good argument against it.

    There are several valid arguments against circumcision, but I don't think not being allowed to be in the room during a surgical procedure is one of them.

    I understand what you are saying, but most hospitals do this procedure right in the nursery with all the other babies around and several nurses running in and out.  I think that if a parent wants to watch, they should be allowed.... at least for this procedure.  Ear surgery, or any surgery requiring an OR would definitely be reason for no parents.

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    I understand what you are saying, but most hospitals do this procedure right in the nursery with all the other babies around and several nurses running in and out.  I think that if a parent wants to watch, they should be allowed.... at least for this procedure.  Ear surgery, or any surgery requiring an OR would definitely be reason for no parents.

    That's interesting. I didn't realize that! The hospital that most of my friends go to does not do it in the nursery, so I didn't realize that was how other places did it. I still wonder if the reason they don't allow parents in is actually because it's "traumatizing," or if there's another reason. One of my friends asked to be present for the circumcisions of both of his sons, and they allowed him to be there both times (four years apart.) I wonder what the reasoning is for the different policies at different hospitals.

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  • Yes.  DH made the decision.
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    I understand what you are saying, but most hospitals do this procedure right in the nursery with all the other babies around and several nurses running in and out.  I think that if a parent wants to watch, they should be allowed.... at least for this procedure.  Ear surgery, or any surgery requiring an OR would definitely be reason for no parents.

    That's interesting. I didn't realize that! The hospital that most of my friends go to does not do it in the nursery, so I didn't realize that was how other places did it. I still wonder if the reason they don't allow parents in is actually because it's "traumatizing," or if there's another reason. One of my friends asked to be present for the circumcisions of both of his sons, and they allowed him to be there both times (four years apart.) I wonder what the reasoning is for the different policies at different hospitals.

    I'm really not sure why hospitals can be so different! lol  I really do agree though that it may be traumatizing for most parents to witness this.  I was pretty traumatized just watching random boys getting it done (in my newborn nursing rotation).  It's not a "gentle" procedure really and I felt so bad.  They didn't cry much, but still, I just felt bad!! haha

  • I am actually referring to someone I know, who when their son was circumcised the father was in the room with him but they specifically told the mother that although dad could watch, mom could not because mother's tend to not be able to handle watching their son be hurt this way.  I understand it is a surgical procedure, but it is an unnecessary one, I think many people tend to not think of it as being an actual surgery they just think it's a quick little thing and no big deal for the baby.  That was part of my point.

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    imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    I'm not arguing for or against circumcision, but I just wanted to address the point and question in bold.

    Circumcision is a surgery, and parents aren't typically allowed to be in the room for most surgical procedures. It usually has more to do with being sterile and not getting in the way than it does with a surgery being too "traumatizing" to watch. My brother had to have surgery on his ear as a toddler, and my parents couldn't be with him for that, either. The surgery was absolutely necessary as he'd had an injury, and them not being able to watch him certainly wouldn't have been a good argument against it.

    There are several valid arguments against circumcision, but I don't think not being allowed to be in the room during a surgical procedure is one of them.

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  • imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

     

    My mother wasn't allowed to watch me get my tonsils removed either. Most medical procedures are done without parents in the room.

    Sorry, I understand your point but that part didn't make sense. 

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  • My son is. I left the decision up to DH as I don't know what it's like to have a penis. DH was not circumcised as a baby and ended up having to get it done later in life (I think he was 20). I think this had the most impact on DH's decision.

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  • My son is not, and neither will the two little boys on that are on the way.  I have no religious reason to and believe there is no medical reason why I should either.
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  • We didn't have our son circumcised, and we don't plan on doing it if we have another boy.  I know some of my son's friends are circumcised and others are not, but it's really not a big deal.  

    When we had our son, there was one friend of ours who insisted that all boys should be circumcised, and he started lecturing us about his reasons (which were so silly and rated R), but my husband said, "why are you so enthusiastic about boys penises?" and everyone bursted into laughing, and that was the end of the conversation.  LOL!

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  • I don't know if I am having a boy but I will circumcise for easy cleaning.  I have an uncle that had to have it done at 13 for medical reasons and I wouldn't want my child to have to go through that then.
  • If we have a boy, we are doing it.  We did it with our first son...and as for the trauma, well he seemed perfectly fine and happy when they brought him back to us after the procedure.  Also, prior to getting married I had a boyfreind once who wasnt circumcised...and well, given how young I was (high school) I had no idea it wasn't the so called norm.  Needless to say when I was with my 2nd boyfriend I thought to myself OKKKK, I thought something was odd before!!! LOL.  Personally I like the way they look uncircumcised MUCH better, and personally I think its better for hygiene (regardless of what all of the opinions for and against it are out there). 

     Oh yeah, and why the heck would I want to watch that anyway??? I dont even watch when I have to give blood, so I certainly don't want to watch any medical procedure. 

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  • I am not even reading what everyone wrote bc I don't want to fight.  LOL  Just wanted to put my 2 cents in and say that...  I worked in a nursing home many years ago, and I know EXACTLY what happens to a guy who doesn't or can't clean himself properly, and it is very painful and not pretty. 

    I know I am about to get flamed, but don't worry!  I won't be coming back to this to read it, but there ARE studies that say that uncirc boys are ten times more like for infection.  I know that a lot of that is cleaning and proper care.  And I ALSO worked in an infant room, and altho it was only 2 boys in 13 years, of the 5-10 uncirc boys, two of them needed to have it done, eventually, for medical reasons.  This was Not bc they weren't cared for properly, but a kidney infection can kill you and they both kept getting infections, no matter what mom or any of us did.  And believe me, we all went the extra mile to try and help these little guys.

    Also, I realize this is from 2007, but it just makes sense to me.  Stuff gets caught in there.  Think about it:

    https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19932700/ns/health-aids/t/circumcision-key-curbing-aids-spread/#.TlvT54JrMZk

    IDK.  Do I trust myself to keep it cared for?  Yes.  Do I trust my 8yo to clean it properly?  No.  Do I want that to be the bane of his existence when he's 80?  No.  And I CERTAINLY don't know ANY guys who don't slip up sometimes with the protection.  If my kids get mad at me some day for this, I'm guessing they'll be mad I vaccinated them on Dr. Sears schedule, too.

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  • DS had his circumsion at home right in front of my whole family.  We are jewish.  It's a celebration and introduction into our faith and a covenent with G-d.  

    So the PP that said you wouldn't want to do it bc you can't watch, you could have gotten a great Mohel to do it right in front of you.  Takes 5 seconds and one little snip.  DS only cried for a moment and then I fed him and rocked him to sleep.

    If LO #2 is a boy, we will do it again.

    To each their own.  It's a personal decision.  I did it for various reason including religion.

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    imageiluvmylab:
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    Haha! Mind if I join you? *brings the liqourish*

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  • We did it with DS#1 and will with #2.  A family member who chose not to said that the cleaning can get to be a pain and once the child got older they had infection issues and had to get it done anyways.  They wished they would've just done it when he was an infant so he didn't know any different.  

    DS#1 wasn't traumatized.  They took him away, did the procedure, brought him back with the 'bandage' piece they put on (that later falls off) and he was fine.  No crying or anything later.  

    It's a personal preference thing.  Plenty of reasons to do it, plenty not to. To each their own.
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  • I still find the argument about possible infections down the road to be rather bizarre.  We all have vaginas, no?  I'm willing to bet we've all had a UTI or a yeast infection at some point too.  Doesn't mean we cut anything off to prevent them from happening.  We promote healthy hygiene and treat the infection instead.

    Lots of body parts can/do get infected.  We don't cut most of them off unless completely necessary.

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  • DS was and any future boys will be too. DH is so I left the decision up to him.

    When DS was taken for the procedure I worried and it felt like forever, but it was a quick procedure and he was brought back to my room just fine. He didn't even look like he was screaming. The doctors numb it up very good, I'm sure.

    My theory, I would rather it get it done when they won't remember it than have to get it done when they're older b/c of complications, when they will remember everything. I'm not saying everyone will have complications, but I'd rather not take the risk of having to get it done later in life.

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  • If we find out we're having a boy, then we'll think more about it. We had pretty much decided on NOT doing it if we were to have a boy, but I'm having second thoughts about that. DH & I will do more research on the subject if we're having a boy this time.
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  • If we have a boy, he will be. We would want him to be like his father.
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  • If we have a boy, we will probably have him circumcised.
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  • imagegreeneyed_bride:

    imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    I'm not arguing for or against circumcision, but I just wanted to address the point and question in bold.

    Circumcision is a surgery, and parents aren't typically allowed to be in the room for most surgical procedures. It usually has more to do with being sterile and not getting in the way than it does with a surgery being too "traumatizing" to watch. My brother had to have surgery on his ear as a toddler, and my parents couldn't be with him for that, either. The surgery was absolutely necessary as he'd had an injury, and them not being able to watch him certainly wouldn't have been a good argument against it.

    There are several valid arguments against circumcision, but I don't think not being allowed to be in the room during a surgical procedure is one of them.

    And I will add to this that in Canada, or at least where I am here, at least one of the parents HAS to be in the room while the circumcision is being performed.  They will not perform it without a parent there.  So the trauma factor definately should not play a huge role in deciding whether or not to get it done.

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  • imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    There are still medical benefits to circ'ing your boys. The process is not traumatizing at all. Even my DS did not cry when it was done, and we were both invoted to watch the procedure. We decided to enjoy the 10min the procedure took, by staying in the cafe and having some breakfast together.

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    I am actually referring to someone I know, who when their son was circumcised the father was in the room with him but they specifically told the mother that although dad could watch, mom could not because mother's tend to not be able to handle watching their son be hurt this way.  I understand it is a surgical procedure, but it is an unnecessary one, I think many people tend to not think of it as being an actual surgery they just think it's a quick little thing and no big deal for the baby.  That was part of my point.

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    imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    I'm not arguing for or against circumcision, but I just wanted to address the point and question in bold.

    Circumcision is a surgery, and parents aren't typically allowed to be in the room for most surgical procedures. It usually has more to do with being sterile and not getting in the way than it does with a surgery being too "traumatizing" to watch. My brother had to have surgery on his ear as a toddler, and my parents couldn't be with him for that, either. The surgery was absolutely necessary as he'd had an injury, and them not being able to watch him certainly wouldn't have been a good argument against it.

    There are several valid arguments against circumcision, but I don't think not being allowed to be in the room during a surgical procedure is one of them.

    That is 100% discrimination, and no way in HELL any hospital is going to tell me that my DH can watch something they are doing to my son, but I can't because they think I might not be able to handle it. That is complete and total BS!!

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  • I let DH decided and he says that if we have a boy then he will be circ'ed just like DH is.
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  • I don't get why some women here say, "I left it up to my husband"  I think it's a decision that should be made between both mom and dad.
  • FI is, and our son will be too.  For those who say it is "traumatizing", my FI (and I'm assuming every other man in the world) has no recollection of this surgery at all.  A traumatic experience is one you hold with you for life and can impact whether you are able to do something or not.

    FI can pee, and obviously reproduce well.  So, no, getting a baby circumcised is NOT traumatic.  

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    imageaddegeorge:
    No we are not, my husband and I have no religious reasons for it and there is no medical reason at all.  I also talked to people who did and really wish they hadn't.  The process is so traumatizing many places won't even let mom be in there to watch, do you want to put your new born baby through something you wouldn't be allowed to watch?

    There are still medical benefits to circ'ing your boys. The process is not traumatizing at all. Even my DS did not cry when it was done, and we were both invoted to watch the procedure. We decided to enjoy the 10min the procedure took, by staying in the cafe and having some breakfast together.

    Can you (or someone else) elaborate on the medical benefits? 

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