To you ladies who somehow believe that you have successfully attacked the newcomer this post is for you:
I cannot begin to imagine what you have endured in order to receive your bundles of joy. I do not know the pain that lies in the secret places in your heart. What I do know is that I can only hope that you find a way to work through the aches of your souls. If hijacking this thread makes you feel like a woman, have at it. Keep on with what you're doing. Just know this, every time you post something ridiculous or degrading you are only providing further evidences that your souls are in despair. FWIW:You don't have to be bitter!
This is the last time I will give dignity to your absurd remarks.
Hun, I'll lay it out for you. You seem to be a decent kind of gal.
1. You said you lurked, but clearly, you haven't. The terms "preggers" and "baby dust" are hated around here, and you used both.
2. The ONLY way to confirm O is by temping. Period. You can estimate your O date, but don't try to say that you "know" you O'ed because you simply cannot know without temping. You can be pretty close to sure, but not positive.
3. Just because someone snarks you, it does not mean they're bitter or infertile or have gone through hell and back trying to get KU. It doesn't mean they have "pain that lies in the secret places of their heart". There's no need to wax eloquent about the dark misery in someone's soul, because TBH, it's probably not there. Sometimes, if someone says something that the TB populus deems stupid, you'll get flamed. It's absurd to assume that you got flack because someone is having problems getting pregnant...you got flamed because you said some kinda dumb things.
I have nothing personal against you, but if you're going to say you lurked, don't come on here and sound like a newb who has no clue how the dynamics of this board work. Good luck in your TTC efforts.
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I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
To you ladies who somehow believe that you have successfully attacked the newcomer this post is for you:
I cannot begin to imagine what you have endured in order to receive your bundles of joy. I do not know the pain that lies in the secret places in your heart. What I do know is that I can only hope that you find a way to work through the aches of your souls. If hijacking this thread makes you feel like a woman, have at it. Keep on with what you're doing. Just know this, every time you post something ridiculous or degrading you are only providing further evidences that your souls are in despair. FWIW:You don't have to be bitter!
This is the last time I will give dignity to your absurd remarks.
Hun, I'll lay it out for you. You seem to be a decent kind of gal.
1. You said you lurked, but clearly, you haven't. The terms "preggers" and "baby dust" are hated around here, and you used both.
2. The ONLY way to confirm O is by temping. Period. You can estimate your O date, but don't try to say that you "know" you O'ed because you simply cannot know without temping. You can be pretty close to sure, but not positive.
3. Just because someone snarks you, it does not mean they're bitter or infertile or have gone through hell and back trying to get KU. It doesn't mean they have "pain that lies in the secret places of their heart". There's no need to wax eloquent about the dark misery in someone's soul, because TBH, it's probably not there. Sometimes, if someone says something that the TB populus deems stupid, you'll get flamed. It's absurd to assume that you got flack because someone is having problems getting pregnant...you got flamed because you said some kinda dumb things.
I have nothing personal against you, but if you're going to say you lurked, don't come on here and sound like a newb who has no clue how the dynamics of this board work. Good luck in your TTC efforts.
What did I say that was "so stupid." Hi I'm a newbie TTC...give me a break. It is very clear that a few ladies on this board are in distress.
I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
So, people where you are from don't ask questions to engage in a conversation? That's how this post appeared to start-people asking how you know you O'd, I asked how you were made aware your ovaries were OK. Those don't seem like odd questions given the nature of the board.
Tones are sometimes hard to "get" over the internet....
There is a difference between bitter (as you call it) and straight forwardness. Most tend to be "get to the point"ers around here...
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I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
Or it just means we think you're being a dipwad and we don't like you. Just a theory.
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I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
So, people where you are from don't ask questions to engage in a conversation? That's how this post appeared to start-people asking how you know you O'd, I asked how you were made aware your ovaries were OK. Those don't seem like odd questions given the nature of the board.
Tones are sometimes hard to "get" over the internet....
There is a difference between bitter (as you call it) and straight forwardness. Most tend to be "get to the point"ers around here...
Am I the only one who is wondering if OP is related to the imprisoned king who keeps emailing them wanting to wire money to my bank account? Their typing is oddly similar.
I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
So, people where you are from don't ask questions to engage in a conversation? That's how this post appeared to start-people asking how you know you O'd, I asked how you were made aware your ovaries were OK. Those don't seem like odd questions given the nature of the board.
Tones are sometimes hard to "get" over the internet....
There is a difference between bitter (as you call it) and straight forwardness. Most tend to be "get to the point"ers around here...
Thank you for your contribution!
I guess conversations aren't a norm in your neck of the woods
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I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
So, people where you are from don't ask questions to engage in a conversation? That's how this post appeared to start-people asking how you know you O'd, I asked how you were made aware your ovaries were OK. Those don't seem like odd questions given the nature of the board.
Tones are sometimes hard to "get" over the internet....
There is a difference between bitter (as you call it) and straight forwardness. Most tend to be "get to the point"ers around here...
Thank you for your contribution!
I guess conversations aren't a norm in your neck of the woods
This is not a conversation. That shipped sailed long ago.
I just want you to know I AM leaving. But it's not because you told me to. It's because I need to go get laid by my super hot husband in order to make a baby. Unfortunately for you, you decided to be a d0uche during my fertile window (which I know I am currently in since I am temping) and I can't stick around long enough to watch you GBCB. Sad face.
HA, you'll give me the cliffs notes tomorrow?
*lurking* I couldnt let this little slicd of awesome go un-noticed! You slay me!
To you ladies who somehow believe that you have successfully attacked the newcomer this post is for you:
I cannot begin to imagine what you have endured in order to receive your bundles of joy. I do not know the pain that lies in the secret places in your heart. What I do know is that I can only hope that you find a way to work through the aches of your souls. If hijacking this thread makes you feel like a woman, have at it. Keep on with what you're doing. Just know this, every time you post something ridiculous or degrading you are only providing further evidences that your souls are in despair. FWIW:You don't have to be bitter!
This is the last time I will give dignity to your absurd remarks.
Hun, I'll lay it out for you. You seem to be a decent kind of gal.
1. You said you lurked, but clearly, you haven't. The terms "preggers" and "baby dust" are hated around here, and you used both.
2. The ONLY way to confirm O is by temping. Period. You can estimate your O date, but don't try to say that you "know" you O'ed because you simply cannot know without temping. You can be pretty close to sure, but not positive.
3. Just because someone snarks you, it does not mean they're bitter or infertile or have gone through hell and back trying to get KU. It doesn't mean they have "pain that lies in the secret places of their heart". There's no need to wax eloquent about the dark misery in someone's soul, because TBH, it's probably not there. Sometimes, if someone says something that the TB populus deems stupid, you'll get flamed. It's absurd to assume that you got flack because someone is having problems getting pregnant...you got flamed because you said some kinda dumb things.
I have nothing personal against you, but if you're going to say you lurked, don't come on here and sound like a newb who has no clue how the dynamics of this board work. Good luck in your TTC efforts.
What did I say that was "so stupid." Hi I'm a newbie TTC...give me a break. It is very clear that a few ladies on this board are in distress.
I told you exactly what you said that was stupid. You have an extremely condescending, "holier than thou" attitude...have you met kettle, pot? You didn't intro well. Deal with it. Accept that you didn't get the "omg, squeeeeee, welcome to TB!" that you wanted. This board is a wealth of information, but it's not a support system. There is no friendship fairy who is going to fly down and grant you a message board full of new bestest friends. This works just like real life. You play nice with the others, you'll make friends. You call people bitter infertiles and act like a douche, you'll be shunned.
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I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
So, people where you are from don't ask questions to engage in a conversation? That's how this post appeared to start-people asking how you know you O'd, I asked how you were made aware your ovaries were OK. Those don't seem like odd questions given the nature of the board.
Tones are sometimes hard to "get" over the internet....
There is a difference between bitter (as you call it) and straight forwardness. Most tend to be "get to the point"ers around here...
Thank you for your contribution!
I guess conversations aren't a norm in your neck of the woods
This is not a conversation. That shipped sailed long ago.
Hmm, and here I had asked an honest question in my 1st post that wasn't answered. Asking a question usually results in an answer...also known as a conversation.
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To you ladies who somehow believe that you have successfully attacked the newcomer this post is for you:
I cannot begin to imagine what you have endured in order to receive your bundles of joy. I do not know the pain that lies in the secret places in your heart. What I do know is that I can only hope that you find a way to work through the aches of your souls. If hijacking this thread makes you feel like a woman, have at it. Keep on with what you're doing. Just know this, every time you post something ridiculous or degrading you are only providing further evidences that your souls are in despair. FWIW:You don't have to be bitter!
This is the last time I will give dignity to your absurd remarks.
Hun, I'll lay it out for you. You seem to be a decent kind of gal.
1. You said you lurked, but clearly, you haven't. The terms "preggers" and "baby dust" are hated around here, and you used both.
2. The ONLY way to confirm O is by temping. Period. You can estimate your O date, but don't try to say that you "know" you O'ed because you simply cannot know without temping. You can be pretty close to sure, but not positive.
3. Just because someone snarks you, it does not mean they're bitter or infertile or have gone through hell and back trying to get KU. It doesn't mean they have "pain that lies in the secret places of their heart". There's no need to wax eloquent about the dark misery in someone's soul, because TBH, it's probably not there. Sometimes, if someone says something that the TB populus deems stupid, you'll get flamed. It's absurd to assume that you got flack because someone is having problems getting pregnant...you got flamed because you said some kinda dumb things.
I have nothing personal against you, but if you're going to say you lurked, don't come on here and sound like a newb who has no clue how the dynamics of this board work. Good luck in your TTC efforts.
What did I say that was "so stupid." Hi I'm a newbie TTC...give me a break. It is very clear that a few ladies on this board are in distress.
I told you exactly what you said that was stupid. You have an extremely condescending, "holier than thou" attitude...have you met kettle, pot? You didn't intro well. Deal with it. Accept that you didn't get the "omg, squeeeeee, welcome to TB!" that you wanted. This board is a wealth of information, but it's not a support system. There is no friendship fairy who is going to fly down and grant you a message board full of new bestest friends. This works just like real life. You play nice with the others, you'll make friends. You call people bitter infertiles and act like a douche, you'll be shunned.
Am I the only one who is wondering if OP is related to the imprisoned king who keeps emailing them wanting to wire money to my bank account? Their typing is oddly similar.
This comment is pure gold. You're kind of amazing, Lopes.
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Am I the only one who is wondering if OP is related to the imprisoned king who keeps emailing them wanting to wire money to my bank account? Their typing is oddly similar.
This comment is pure gold. You're kind of amazing, Lopes.
Thanks. I'm supposed to be sleeping but my neighbor is a creeper and started lighting off fireworks at 1130. I really think he was hoping Id come out because he was alone and staring at my house.
Am I the only one who is wondering if OP is related to the imprisoned king who keeps emailing them wanting to wire money to my bank account? Their typing is oddly similar.
This comment is pure gold. You're kind of amazing, Lopes.
Thanks. I'm supposed to be sleeping but my neighbor is a creeper and started lighting off fireworks at 1130. I really think he was hoping Id come out because he was alone and staring at my house.
Bahaha! That's horrifying, yet hilarious. He's got teh hawts for you. I live in KY so my neighbors are all like, "yeehaw, we get to legally blow stuff up, y'all!" I get the feeling I won't get any sleep at all tonight.
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Hey, first of all, good luck TTC. Not to snark, but it would be a good idea for you to just lurk on the boards for a while more to get a feel for it before posting.
As far as your BFN, without knowing exactly when you ovulate there's no way of knowing for sure how many DPO you are, so if you choose to continue not temping you should probably wait until after your missed period to take a test so you don't waste them. Even so, 10DPO could still give a false negative so try to hold out from testing early. Good luck.
To you ladies who somehow believe that you have successfully attacked the newcomer this post is for you:
I cannot begin to imagine what you have endured in order to receive your bundles of joy. I do not know the pain that lies in the secret places in your heart. What I do know is that I can only hope that you find a way to work through the aches of your souls. If hijacking this thread makes you feel like a woman, have at it. Keep on with what you're doing. Just know this, every time you post something ridiculous or degrading you are only providing further evidences that your souls are in despair. FWIW:You don't have to be bitter!
This is the last time I will give dignity to your absurd remarks.
Hun, I'll lay it out for you. You seem to be a decent kind of gal.
1. You said you lurked, but clearly, you haven't. The terms "preggers" and "baby dust" are hated around here, and you used both.
2. The ONLY way to confirm O is by temping. Period. You can estimate your O date, but don't try to say that you "know" you O'ed because you simply cannot know without temping. You can be pretty close to sure, but not positive.
3. Just because someone snarks you, it does not mean they're bitter or infertile or have gone through hell and back trying to get KU. It doesn't mean they have "pain that lies in the secret places of their heart". There's no need to wax eloquent about the dark misery in someone's soul, because TBH, it's probably not there. Sometimes, if someone says something that the TB populus deems stupid, you'll get flamed. It's absurd to assume that you got flack because someone is having problems getting pregnant...you got flamed because you said some kinda dumb things.
I have nothing personal against you, but if you're going to say you lurked, don't come on here and sound like a newb who has no clue how the dynamics of this board work. Good luck in your TTC efforts.
I think you set a record for pulling the bitter card. Congrats. How nice of you.
FWIW, that's awesome you have charted for so long, but even knowing your body as well as you claim does not guarentee you O each month, just that you've possibly had a patter of doing so.
What did you do to ensure your ovaries are "ok"?
This is not a journal, but a message board where any one is free to post anywhere and prety much anything they want.
The blog post about the women on here being "bitter" was uncalled for.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
Or it just means we think you're being a dipwad and we don't like you. Just a theory.
this is what happens when I try to post at 4 am---this comment! (I realized I didn't use quote in my last post).
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Without temping there is no accurate way to tell whether or not you O'd. CM and cervical position on their own are not precise enough. I've had cycles where I've had EWCM for days and thought for sure I'd O'd only to have a cycle go on until CD120 with multiple patches of EWCM throughout. I eventually found out I was not in fact ovulating and that I had PCOS.
The only way to confirm ovulation is through b/w or temperature. End of story.
This thread is full of win. I also wanted to add a quote from her blog:
"OMG!!! I was just on a website that I joined called thebump.com. Some
of those ladies are ridiculous!! I created a thread introducing myself,
and the wolves came out to attack fresh prey. One observation was that
the few women I encountered in those few minutes were incredibly
BITTER. I don't know what their stories are. Heck, I don't even know
who they were. What I did notice was that the pain of trying to
conceive had poisoned their hearts.
Lord I pray for those women and many women who are struggling with
conceiving and infertility. Help me to be kind and to ease the pain of
another."
I'm not religious or anything, but I wouldn't think God would appreciate her passing judgment like that on others. Just sayin', OP.
This thread is full of win. I also wanted to add a quote from her blog:
"OMG!!! I was just on a website that I joined called thebump.com. Some of those ladies are ridiculous!! I created a thread introducing myself, and the wolves came out to attack fresh prey. One observation was that the few women I encountered in those few minutes were incredibly BITTER. I don't know what their stories are. Heck, I don't even know who they were. What I did notice was that the pain of trying to conceive had poisoned their hearts.
Lord I pray for those women and many women who are struggling with conceiving and infertility. Help me to be kind and to ease the pain of another."
OOOOOOOMGoodness!!!!! I think I am going to have night mares for weeks! I have the weirdest, stragnest phobia of snarling wolves!
Don't really have time to read through this whole thread or get into the drama. But on one point I did want to support you. When I first started charting I was instructed in the Billings method. It is only slightly less effective than sympto-thermal. True, you can't know with 100% certainty that you did O. But especially with a lot of charting experience you can be quite confident. Sympto-thermal is not for everyone! Especially in other countries, mucus only method is much more common. If you have hormonal or cycle issues, sympto-thermal can definitely be the way to go. But I always hate to see Billings method get completely disregarded.
Off BCP August 2010, NFP to avoid. Start TTC May 2011.
TTA December 2011 - May 2012 doctor's orders
TTC July 2012-January 2013.
Currently pursuing Napro Technology.
January 2013: Napro nurse is starting me on Vitex 3 DPO and Naproxen 8 DPO until my first appointment with the doctor. Based on my charts, they highly suspect endometriosis.
OP - if you bother to come back and read this, just understand that no one was being snarky to you in their initial responses. Your intro had conflicting information in it, and they were asking you questions to get to know you. No one was at all snarky until you started throwing around the "bitter card".
Remember those guys in HS who were super annoying, and would piss you off? But then, if you acted pissed off, they would say "Oh, she must have PMS". Remember how that felt? To have your feelings and responses totally disregarded and not validated on the basis of hormones kind of sucks. It's exactly what you just did to everyone here.
Oh and FWIW, I charted for a long time. Confirmed O every cycle with temps and symptoms. I used OPKs and got a + at the same time my temps confirmed O. Then, I assumed I could just check symptoms, assumed I was Oing, and had a few random annovulatory cycles. Each of those cycles, I had all the symptoms of O, but confirmed that I never did with u/s and bloodwork. So, yeah, you really DON'T know when you Od if you don't confirm.
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I wasn't going to get involved until I read your two post 'blog'. It was a little bit of offensive, mixed in with some crazy.
Sadly ladies, I don't think this is MUD.
TTC since August 2009
June/July 2011 - IVF #1 - Transfer cancelled due to OHSS
23 perfect embryos. All 23 made it to freezing!
September/October - FET #1 - October 12th - 2 Grade A embies
October 20th - BFP??! EDD - July 1, 2012
Beta #1 = 154, Beta #2 = 352 Beta #3 = 3,800
U/S #2 - November 14th = 133 bpm! U/S #3 & 4 - November 30th and December 7th = 163 bpm! U/S#5 - January 30th - TEAM PINK!!!
Baby Sweets born on her due date!
I am new to this site. My husband and I have prayed and decided to begin our journey to parenthood. I have been a lurker for a few days, and I think I want to come out of lurkdom!!! So, a little about me is that I am 29-years old (I turn 30 in Oct). We are trying to have our very own LO. I have not been charting and temping in about 1.5 years. I usually pay attention to my CM. So, I ovulated about 10 days ago or at least from June 20-25ish. We are in the 2ww phase, and I have been testing since Sat... all BFN. Maybe we'll have a surprise the end of this week. Here's wishing all of you ladies lots of BABY DUST!!!!
Oh, I just started blogging about my experience too. I don't know if I can post my blog, but I'll try.
Hi! I'm still quite new to this site as well. I was going to introduce myself on this board but I found out I was pregnant before I could do so. Anyway, praying for a BFP for you and your hubby! I usually lurk over here and I lurk and post occasionally in 1st Trimester. PM me if you need a friend...peace.
Where is this lady from that she claims to be a doctor yet cannot string together a natural sounding, coherent sentence? Did anyone else check out her blog? It's like the emails I get from Nigerian scammers every time I put something for sale on Craigslist. And by the way, I strongly dislike people like you that pull the Jesus card. You are the reason that people dislike Christians. Are you saying that I haven't gotten pregnant yet because I don't pray hard enough or love God enough? Shame on you! Go away!
Re: Hi Ladies...
Hun, I'll lay it out for you. You seem to be a decent kind of gal.
1. You said you lurked, but clearly, you haven't. The terms "preggers" and "baby dust" are hated around here, and you used both.
2. The ONLY way to confirm O is by temping. Period. You can estimate your O date, but don't try to say that you "know" you O'ed because you simply cannot know without temping. You can be pretty close to sure, but not positive.
3. Just because someone snarks you, it does not mean they're bitter or infertile or have gone through hell and back trying to get KU. It doesn't mean they have "pain that lies in the secret places of their heart". There's no need to wax eloquent about the dark misery in someone's soul, because TBH, it's probably not there. Sometimes, if someone says something that the TB populus deems stupid, you'll get flamed. It's absurd to assume that you got flack because someone is having problems getting pregnant...you got flamed because you said some kinda dumb things.
I have nothing personal against you, but if you're going to say you lurked, don't come on here and sound like a newb who has no clue how the dynamics of this board work. Good luck in your TTC efforts.
I am not sure where in the world people are or what the societal norms in their regions are. I know that where I live, we usually welcome people by saying hello. Anything else is uncalled for as you say. Further, the snarky remarks and condescending tones are the indisputable evidences of a bitter heart. Are you one of them? If you are not, then don't worry. If you are, I'll call it out every time. FWIW:Life is too short to be so bitter.
What did I say that was "so stupid." Hi I'm a newbie TTC...give me a break. It is very clear that a few ladies on this board are in distress.
So, people where you are from don't ask questions to engage in a conversation? That's how this post appeared to start-people asking how you know you O'd, I asked how you were made aware your ovaries were OK. Those don't seem like odd questions given the nature of the board.
Tones are sometimes hard to "get" over the internet....
There is a difference between bitter (as you call it) and straight forwardness. Most tend to be "get to the point"ers around here...
Or it just means we think you're being a dipwad and we don't like you. Just a theory.
Thank you for your contribution!
This is not a conversation. That shipped sailed long ago.
I told you exactly what you said that was stupid. You have an extremely condescending, "holier than thou" attitude...have you met kettle, pot? You didn't intro well. Deal with it. Accept that you didn't get the "omg, squeeeeee, welcome to TB!" that you wanted. This board is a wealth of information, but it's not a support system. There is no friendship fairy who is going to fly down and grant you a message board full of new bestest friends. This works just like real life. You play nice with the others, you'll make friends. You call people bitter infertiles and act like a douche, you'll be shunned.
Hmm, and here I had asked an honest question in my 1st post that wasn't answered. Asking a question usually results in an answer...also known as a conversation.
Thank you!
This comment is pure gold. You're kind of amazing, Lopes.
Bahaha! That's horrifying, yet hilarious. He's got teh hawts for you.
I live in KY so my neighbors are all like, "yeehaw, we get to legally blow stuff up, y'all!" I get the feeling I won't get any sleep at all tonight.
Hey, first of all, good luck TTC. Not to snark, but it would be a good idea for you to just lurk on the boards for a while more to get a feel for it before posting.
As far as your BFN, without knowing exactly when you ovulate there's no way of knowing for sure how many DPO you are, so if you choose to continue not temping you should probably wait until after your missed period to take a test so you don't waste them. Even so, 10DPO could still give a false negative so try to hold out from testing early. Good luck.
Well said!
Blindvictory, I loved this comment from you from the bottom of my "bitter heart". Well said!!!
this is what happens when I try to post at 4 am---this comment! (I realized I didn't use quote in my last post).
Without temping there is no accurate way to tell whether or not you O'd. CM and cervical position on their own are not precise enough. I've had cycles where I've had EWCM for days and thought for sure I'd O'd only to have a cycle go on until CD120 with multiple patches of EWCM throughout. I eventually found out I was not in fact ovulating and that I had PCOS.
The only way to confirm ovulation is through b/w or temperature. End of story.
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I'm not religious or anything, but I wouldn't think God would appreciate her passing judgment like that on others. Just sayin', OP.
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I only just finished the first page and I love this thread already. I mean journal.
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7DPO Progesterone: low. CD3 BW: normal, HSG: clear
DX: severe MFI (low all 3) and low T. Undergoing replacement therapy.
I'm going to call MUD. She just joined, and her blog has a whole 2 posts.
OP - if you bother to come back and read this, just understand that no one was being snarky to you in their initial responses. Your intro had conflicting information in it, and they were asking you questions to get to know you. No one was at all snarky until you started throwing around the "bitter card".
Remember those guys in HS who were super annoying, and would piss you off? But then, if you acted pissed off, they would say "Oh, she must have PMS". Remember how that felt? To have your feelings and responses totally disregarded and not validated on the basis of hormones kind of sucks. It's exactly what you just did to everyone here.
Oh and FWIW, I charted for a long time. Confirmed O every cycle with temps and symptoms. I used OPKs and got a + at the same time my temps confirmed O. Then, I assumed I could just check symptoms, assumed I was Oing, and had a few random annovulatory cycles. Each of those cycles, I had all the symptoms of O, but confirmed that I never did with u/s and bloodwork. So, yeah, you really DON'T know when you Od if you don't confirm.
Ummm, yeah, you've gotta' go.
I wasn't going to get involved until I read your two post 'blog'. It was a little bit of offensive, mixed in with some crazy.
Sadly ladies, I don't think this is MUD.
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Hi! I'm still quite new to this site as well. I was going to introduce myself on this board but I found out I was pregnant before I could do so. Anyway, praying for a BFP for you and your hubby! I usually lurk over here and I lurk and post occasionally in 1st Trimester. PM me if you need a friend...peace.
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This made my day. I laughed through all the posts on this thread, but this ultimately did it for me. Love. I needed that.
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