S/O Pure bred animals

hanna mae · June 2011

We have a pure bred Siamese. We were only going to have 1pet and dh told me that I might as well get the cat that I really wanted. So, I got my Siamese. The other animals have all been mixed breeds. One of our cats was a "rescue" cat - his mama was hit by a car and my friend took him and his brothers/sisters in and took care of them until they were old enough. Our 'kitten' who is now 1 was left on our door step. Our dog, while not a 'rescue' definitely came from a home that she needed to be saved from. She was basically crated 22/7 in a crate that was a little smaller than a pet store crate (she's a lab/collie mix). She was a very hyper puppy b/c of it. But thankfully she settled down and got used to our crazy family. Now she only gets excited when people come to the door. She also makes a great guard dog. We used the crate for a while, but I stopped using it about 10 mo ago or so and haven't had any issues with her.

Mye · June 2011

I have an adopted bulldog, and I love him and the breed, when he goes to the big dog park in the sky I am getting another one, if I can adopt one perfect, otherwise I am buying one

BGGP9196 · June 2011

amanda~mm:
I would NEVER get a rescue dog, I don't really care what people think of that decision.

Just curious, why would you never get a rescue dog?

pennynjon · June 2011

I have two pure bred mini dachshunds. One I did buy form a pet store when I was young and didn't know better. He is 9 now. He ruptured discs in his back 3 years ago and is paralyzed in the back legs. I don't know if it had anything to do with his breeding. But we still love him to death, and I wouldn't go back and not get him because of it. When we decided to get another dachshund we stayed clear of pet stores and anything that seemed to be a puppy mill. We looked on petfinder and for rescues, but couldn't find a dachshund puppy in our area. So we went to the closest reputible breeder we could find, which was a couple of hours away. So far she has been healthy and she is four. I don't see aything wrong with getting a pure bred. I love dachshunds and think we will always have them.

Gizettski · June 2011

some people prefer muts to pure breds because for some reason they seem to have less medical problems (due to inbreeding). I have a bichon poodle mix...she is the sweetest, laziest, cutest dog ever! I love her to death. She does have bad knees though which are problems found in small breed dogs and she's had a bladder stone and ear infection

( don't care though still lover her!

MzB2308 · June 2011

LuvMyFurbaby:

MzB2308:

I don't care what side you all are on.. ONE THING YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS::
EVERY ANIMAL NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME, FROM NEEDS A HOME..

Which is exactly why puppy millers are still in business.

People see those said puppy dogs in the pet stores, or in deplorable conditions in a backyard breeder's house, and they decide to "rescue" it -- they pay money and take the dog home.

The puppy millers and backyard breeders don't care about your intentions. They care about getting their money. If people continue to support pet stores puppies and backyard breeders, whether through ignorance, or to "rescue," they are still lining the pockets of irresponsible breeders, who will continue to produce puppies.

Im referring to wither you buy from a shelter, craigslist, the newspaper or your local AKC registered breeder..
Not the sketchy mic sketch sketch, who's dog is running the neighborhood, got knocked up & so for drug money they are selling the puppies that they could care less for..
Or I do not agree with puppy mills.. but where do those pups end up once saved.. the shelter.. or dead.. So I still stand by my previous statement.. which is true.

LuvMyFurbaby · June 2011

MzB2308:
LuvMyFurbaby:

MzB2308:

I don't care what side you all are on.. ONE THING YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS::
EVERY ANIMAL NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME, FROM NEEDS A HOME..

Which is exactly why puppy millers are still in business.

People see those said puppy dogs in the pet stores, or in deplorable conditions in a backyard breeder's house, and they decide to "rescue" it -- they pay money and take the dog home.

The puppy millers and backyard breeders don't care about your intentions. They care about getting their money. If people continue to support pet stores puppies and backyard breeders, whether through ignorance, or to "rescue," they are still lining the pockets of irresponsible breeders, who will continue to produce puppies.

Im referring to wither you buy from a shelter, craigslist, the newspaper or your local AKC registered breeder..
Not the sketchy mic sketch sketch, who's dog is running the neighborhood, got knocked up & so for drug money they are selling the puppies that they could care less for..
Or I do not agree with puppy mills.. but where do those pups end up once saved.. the shelter.. or dead.. So I still stand by my previous statement.. which is true.

And I stand by mine.

Yes, most puppy mill puppies end up in shelters. Some do end up dead. But paying money to "rescue" them from puppy millers, pet stores, backyard breeders, or the so-called "oops" litter is still creating demand. As I said, none of them care WHY you're giving them money for their puppies.

dottymobo · June 2011

MzB2308:

I don't care what side you all are on.. ONE THING YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS::
EVERY ANIMAL NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME, FROM NEEDS A HOME..

F that.

Thanks for yelling at us, but "rescuing" an animal from a shitty breeder or puppy mill (pet store) causes the mistreatment and death of many more animals.

I foster, I volunteer for rescue, but I'm a realist. No matter where you choose to get your pet now, the pet that you don't get will suffer for it- whether it's the mutt gassed to death in the shelter, or the purebred who dies from being fed dollar store dog food at 3 weeks. If people stopped giving homes to the dogs from irresponsible breeders and puppymills, some dogs would of course suffer in the short term (keep in mind that there is now plenty of suffering from all of the strays put to sleep plus the mistreated puppymill dogs) but in the long term bad breeders, being unable to make a profit, would stop breeding. Pet overpopulation could finally decline, fewer dogs would live in the horror of puppymills, fewer dogs would be put to sleep for lack of families, reputable breeders could go on happily producing limited numbers of carefully bred purebreds and taking responsibility for them and their offspring their whole lives, win-win-win-win-win.

I have very little sympathy for the line of thinking that makes it OK to save one dog knowing that that action will contribute to whatever you're "saving" the pet from.

dottymobo · June 2011

Also, of course puppymills and *** owner/breeders like in the other post suck for the dogs, but even the nice family down the street who loves their family pet and breeds not with the primary goal of making money is a huge problem.

First, more puppies in the world obviously doesn't help the overpopulation issue. Then, not having spay/neuter contracts makes it more likely that these puppies make even more puppies. Not being selective about who gets their dogs means that people can buy on a whim, people who should never have pets get dogs, people who intend on feeding their dogs dollar store food, letting them get knocked up, or leaving them outside all of the time can get dogs. Not having a return clause means that when these people don't want their dog, it will most likely end up at a shelter- and the breeder will never even know. Most of this kind of breeders don't do all the testing they should on their dog (hips/elbows, etc- depends on the breed) if at all, producing unhealthy dogs. Even if these tests are one, the "purebred" dog may be far from the standard for the breed, meaning that temperament will be less predictable, and dogs just won't look like they should for their breed.

Backyard breeders might not be nefarious or ill-intentioned, and their dogs might be treated like royalty, and the offspring may even be perfectly nice dogs... but they are contributing heavily to the overpopulation and suffering of animals in the US all the same.

Kteach09 · June 2011

I have 2 pure bred dogs, a collie and a yorkie, and 2 rescues, a St. Bernard mix and we just acquired a 12 week old kitten. I also have 2 rescues who still live with my parents. Honestly, after experiencing both I have no preference. It all depends on the training and attention you put into each pet. Ours could not be more different from each other but are all extremely well behaved and extremely loved, all because of the "parenting" choices we have made.

Oh, and FYI. If you are looking for a pure yorkie or other small dog , there is no such thing as a "teacup". Those are generally the runts of the litter and without special care have tons of health problems.

l_herron · June 2011

getnmarried910:
Based on the post below, I got the impression many people are against having pure bred animals. I never thought having a pure bred from a breeder or a rescue dog being a big deal. We don't have a pet, and don't plan to for a very long time (like when our kids are old enough to help with the responsibilities of caring for a pet), but I know DH wants to rescue greyhounds. So please enlighten me.

I didn't read the responses yet, so I know I am probably repeating what a lot of people are saying. What I don't support are backyard breeders, or people who breed dogs all for the sake of making a quick buck. The dogs are poorly bred and predisposed to many medical issues. There has been no testing done on the parents to ensure that they are passing down quality genes instead of problem ones (ie hip dysplasia, resp. problems, eye problems....)

Reputable breeders test their stock and breed with the purpose of bettering the breed. They show their dogs and only breed the ones that conform to the breed standards. I would have problem someone researching a breeder and buying a quality dog. Hell, if I had the money I can't say I wouldn't.

I always support rescuing/adopting dogs first though. There are plenty of awesome dogs in shelters that are in need of homes. Why support someone who is obviously breeding dogs out of nothing more than personal interest rather than save a dog? If it was difficult for these people to sell their puppies, they might stop.

I just don't get what people have against rescue dogs.

agunnet · June 2011

mrsfowler1016:
I think it's the person's decision on what they want for THEIR family and if people are going to flame them for wanting a pure bred dog that's just idiotic. I understand people wanting other people to rescue but there is nothing wrong with purebreds and what fits for one person may not for another. Different digs require different home types and living styles. DH and I only have/want Boston Terriers.

totally agree! We have two dogs, a purebred Italian greyhound, and a mix breed mutt we rescued from Craigslist. Both are equally wonderful dogs

GoldenPeaches · June 2011

BGGP9196:
amanda~mm:
I would NEVER get a rescue dog, I don't really care what people think of that decision.

Just curious, why would you never get a rescue dog?

I am also waiting for the answer to this one.

lvisser · June 2011

This is flameworthy. After having two rescued mutts who had numerous health issues... (One had to be put down at NINE months old due to severe hip dysplasia), and now having a pure bred (standard schnauzer) DH and I have agreed that its only PB SS from here on out.

lvisser · June 2011

I should add, we would only get a SS from a rep breeder. The breeder she came from (she is 6, we got her from my boss) still remembers her, and even sent me pictures of her mom, and her when she was a pup... THAT is a good breeder... in fact, she was quite upset to hear that my boss gave her to me, and did not return her to the breeder since that was in the contract... i am not kidding you when I say that when I spoke to her on the phone, she literally made me prove myself as a good family for maddie.

Now, my MIL got her dog from a shiity online dealer. ugh.

LuvMyFurbaby · June 2011

lvisser:
This is flameworthy. After having two rescued mutts who had numerous health issues... (One had to be put down at NINE months old due to severe hip dysplasia), and now having a pure bred (standard schnauzer) DH and I have agreed that its only PB SS from here on out.

I'm not trying to flame, but it's unfair to make a generalization based on two experiences. Heartbreaking, of course. But there are millions of rescued animals that go on to live long, healthy lives. My rescued German Shepherd/collie mutt lived to be 17 years old, and that is ancient for a large-breed dog.

A friend of mine has a pittie mix that just turned 17, as well. He's a rescue, too.

I know that some people want certain breeds (purebreds) for certain reasons (breed traits, want to ensure that their breed prone to health issues was responsibly bred), but to make the assumption that all shelter dogs are unhealthy is, as I said before, not fair. Just like assuming they're all "broken" (abused, poorly behaved, etc.).

zoeyandsummersmom · June 2011

We bought our pure bred Tibetan Terrier, but only after we were turned down by several rescues. They claimed that because we both work we were not fit to be puppy parents. When we told them we would arrange dog walkers to come through out the day - we were told that wasn't good enough. My husband then asked if he was laid off if we could get the dog and they said of course. We ended up buying our puppy, one of our best purchases ever, Tibetan Terriers are an amazing breed, and had a dog walker come twice a day for two months.

Since we both work, we have a walker come 4 days a week and she is picked up and taken to doggy day camp once a week. I feel awful that we couldn't rescue a dog, but this is what happens when holier than thou people run the rescues and place unfair restrictions on who can adopt a dog. Not all rescues are run that way, but the ones where we live are. If you want to rescue a dog, your best bet is to not do what we did and to lie and tell them you work from home, even if you don't.

LuvMyFurbaby · June 2011

dcmetrobride:

We bought our pure bred Tibetan Terrier, but only after we were turned down by several rescues. They claimed that because we both work we were not fit to be puppy parents. When we told them we would arrange dog walkers to come through out the day - we were told that wasn't good enough. My husband then asked if he was laid off if we could get the dog and they said of course. We ended up buying our puppy, one of our best purchases ever, Tibetan Terriers are an amazing breed, and had a dog walker come twice a day for two months.

Since we both work, we have a walker come 4 days a week and she is picked up and taken to doggy day camp once a week. I feel awful that we couldn't rescue a dog, but this is what happens when holier than thou people run the rescues and place unfair restrictions on who can adopt a dog. Not all rescues are run that way, but the ones where we live are. If you want to rescue a dog, your best bet is to not do what we did and to lie and tell them you work from home, even if you don't.

This pisses me off, too.

You could have rescued a dog. But you got turned down by ONE rescue, and you gave up and bought instead. Instead of trying other rescues, or a shelter, you blame the rescue.

Were you able to just go to the breeder's house and pick out a puppy? That's a backyard breeder, and they're part of the reason that 4 to 7 MILLION companion animals are killed each year.

kerrymass · June 2011

I'm not opposed to pure breds at all. I would note that some (not all) pure bred dogs are more likely to have health issues, due to the inbreeding. If you do your homework and find a pure bred that is a good fit for your family - go for it. Personally, I've always been a fan of mutts and have 2 rescue dogs, but someday we might end up w/ a pure bred - who knows?!

That being said, there are some amazing organizations to help you rescue greyhounds, or any prue bred that you could possibly desire. I strongly prefer supporting rescue organizations (yes, including ones for pure breds) for a couple of reasons:

- I don't want to encourage backyard breeders, puppy mills or pet stores (pet stores and puppy mills are self explanatory. Backyard breeders don't always have the knowledge and/or the dogs best interests at heart... they're often just trying to make a $. Top of the line, reputable breeders are fine if you want a show dog or something along those lines. They are just too expensive for my taste, especially when I have no desire to ever show our dogs).

- There are so many dogs that need homes in rescue organizations.

- Both of my dogs (from 2 different rescue organizations - 1 when I lived in PA and 1 near where I live in NC now) were kept in foster homes. This is an amazing advantage and I imagine I'll even appreciate this more when I have LOs. They were able to tell me, about both of our dogs, off the bat and honestly how they do playing with other dogs, walking on a leash, around cats and most importantly, around children. They were tested for food agression, taken to crowded public places and even driven around in the car to see how they would do. Plus, if something didn't work out with either dog, the rescue groups would take them back and find them another home.

- Some people may disagree w/ me here, but I also will not support a kill shelter by adopting from one. This is me personally, but I know that I could end up with the wrong dog for our family if I went in and knew that these adorable dogs were about to be put down and decisions like this need to be made with your head as well as you heart.

When you decide you're ready to adopt, I strongly recommend www.petfinder.org to help locate a local rescue agency that deals w/ the breed of dog that you are looking for. (The posts of individual puppies seem to be outdated at times).

Sorry for writing a book. When the time comes - good luck!

zoeyandsummersmom · June 2011

LuvMyFurbaby:
dcmetrobride:

We bought our pure bred Tibetan Terrier, but only after we were turned down by several rescues. They claimed that because we both work we were not fit to be puppy parents. When we told them we would arrange dog walkers to come through out the day - we were told that wasn't good enough. My husband then asked if he was laid off if we could get the dog and they said of course. We ended up buying our puppy, one of our best purchases ever, Tibetan Terriers are an amazing breed, and had a dog walker come twice a day for two months.

Since we both work, we have a walker come 4 days a week and she is picked up and taken to doggy day camp once a week. I feel awful that we couldn't rescue a dog, but this is what happens when holier than thou people run the rescues and place unfair restrictions on who can adopt a dog. Not all rescues are run that way, but the ones where we live are. If you want to rescue a dog, your best bet is to not do what we did and to lie and tell them you work from home, even if you don't.

This pisses me off, too.

You could have rescued a dog. But you got turned down by ONE rescue, and you gave up and bought instead. Instead of trying other rescues, or a shelter, you blame the rescue.

Were you able to just go to the breeder's house and pick out a puppy? That's a backyard breeder, and they're part of the reason that 4 to 7 MILLION companion animals are killed each year.

No, it wasn't ONE rescue. It was several rescues and the other place we went the SPCA, lied about which dogs they had available and any dog we liked we were told had bitten exactly five people. This for multiple dogs. We would love to get and rescue a dog when we have a larger house, but now with a baby, we will have to wait at least 6 years, since almost every local rescue doesn't adopt to households with children under 6 in them.

massangel · June 2011

dcmetrobride:
LuvMyFurbaby:
dcmetrobride:

We bought our pure bred Tibetan Terrier, but only after we were turned down by several rescues. They claimed that because we both work we were not fit to be puppy parents. When we told them we would arrange dog walkers to come through out the day - we were told that wasn't good enough. My husband then asked if he was laid off if we could get the dog and they said of course. We ended up buying our puppy, one of our best purchases ever, Tibetan Terriers are an amazing breed, and had a dog walker come twice a day for two months.

Since we both work, we have a walker come 4 days a week and she is picked up and taken to doggy day camp once a week. I feel awful that we couldn't rescue a dog, but this is what happens when holier than thou people run the rescues and place unfair restrictions on who can adopt a dog. Not all rescues are run that way, but the ones where we live are. If you want to rescue a dog, your best bet is to not do what we did and to lie and tell them you work from home, even if you don't.

This pisses me off, too.

You could have rescued a dog. But you got turned down by ONE rescue, and you gave up and bought instead. Instead of trying other rescues, or a shelter, you blame the rescue.

Were you able to just go to the breeder's house and pick out a puppy? That's a backyard breeder, and they're part of the reason that 4 to 7 MILLION companion animals are killed each year.

No, it wasn't ONE rescue. It was several rescues and the other place we went the SPCA, lied about which dogs they had available and any dog we liked we were told had bitten exactly five people. This for multiple dogs. We would love to get and rescue a dog when we have a larger house, but now with a baby, we will have to wait at least 6 years, since almost every local rescue doesn't adopt to households with children under 6 in them.

you were turned down for a puppy - what about an older dog that would have been better suited for a working couple? Plenty of those out there that need homes too

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