So I'll be getting a breathable bumper

Erin2903 · June 2011

I feel like the worst mom ever today.

Last night we decided to try letting DS sleep in his crib for the first time. He usually sleeps in the RnP in our room but he's been sleeping through the night for a while now so we thought we'd give it a shot.

Within the past week or so he has started to HATE the swaddle so we've stopped doing it. He still sleeps good without it. So we put him in his crib, put his sound machine on and said goodnight. He did really good for a while, no crying. I kept sneaking in to check on him and he was just staring at the projection on his sound machine and "talking" to himself. Then we heard him on the monitor. At first it was just a whimper so I waited, then he started wailing. I ran in there and he was turned sideways, on his belly with a leg stuck in between the slats of his crib.

I pulled him out and he was fine, calmed right down. I started crying of course. I just didn't realize he could move like that. I didn't get a bumper because of the sids risk but obviously we need something.

MrsMackenzie2010 · June 2011

yeah we didnt do bumpers either, we have them but aren't using them. He wakes up at the bottom of the crib, but thankfully he doesn't hate the swaddle yet, otherwise his little feet would probably be through the slats too. Wouldn't you think they wouldn't make cribs that they could do this in? Weird.

Scout05 · June 2011

DD has started getting her arm through the slats at night (she just...scoots to the edge of the mattress somehow. She's right where I put her down, only somehow inches to the right. She's swaddled, I don't know how she is achieving this - arms out, obviously.)

I'm debating. We have the breathable bumpers, but I'm just not sure I really like the idea. But I don't want her to hurt herself - right now, she just seems to be annoyed to wake up and find her arm there.

ManiacMcGee · June 2011

MrsMackenzie2010:
yeah we didnt do bumpers either, we have them but aren't using them. He wakes up at the bottom of the crib, but thankfully he doesn't hate the swaddle yet, otherwise his little feet would probably be through the slats too. Wouldn't you think they wouldn't make cribs that they could do this in? Weird.

Then you'd just have a box.

My LO is sleeping on a contoured changing pad, so he can't slip down to the rails. We'll get a bumper when he can.

RunningGal900 · June 2011

My dr told me that they aren't even recommending breathable bumpers anymore because of the entanglement risk. He says that that risk is small, but even one tragedy is too much so they have a blanket policy not to recommend them. I had them up for one day and was too concerned about it so I took them down. He said that the baby won't hurt himself if he gets stuck - just that it is annoying when they wake you up because they are stuck.

I found DS in his crib like this one morning. You can't tell, but he was giggling about it. I felt bad, but I couldn't sleep with the bumpers up, so we are just dealing with stuck limbs.

bugandbibs · June 2011

RunningGal900:
My dr told me that they aren't even recommending breathable bumpers anymore because of the entanglement risk. He says that that risk is small, but even one tragedy is too much so they have a blanket policy not to recommend them. I had them up for one day and was too concerned about it so I took them down. He said that the baby won't hurt himself if he gets stuck - just that it is annoying when they wake you up because they are stuck.
I found DS in his crib like this one morning. You can't tell, but he was giggling about it. I felt bad, but I couldn't sleep with the bumpers up, so we are just dealing with stuck limbs.

Our LO can do a full circle from one pivot point. Feet through slats has happened more than once. Bumpers of any kind freak me out too.

luvdelilah · June 2011

We've got a scooter on our hands as well. I went in to get him yesterday and he'd moved himself all the way to one end of the bed - not sure how many times he'd scooted his head right into the crib slats... For now I hung a quilt over that end of the crib. I'm assuming that leaving the other three sides open makes this ok-ish? Guess I'll ask the pedi what we should do the next time we go in.

biblionerd · June 2011

luvdelilah:
We've got a scooter on our hands as well. I went in to get him yesterday and he'd moved himself all the way to one end of the bed - not sure how many times he'd scooted his head right into the crib slats... For now I hung a quilt over that end of the crib. I'm assuming that leaving the other three sides open makes this ok-ish? Guess I'll ask the pedi what we should do the next time we go in.

Hanging a quilt is much more dangerous. He could mash his face into it and not be able to move if he got himself wedged there, rebreathe carbon dioxide, it could fall into the crib etc. He's not going to lay there and bash his head into the crib and hurt himself.

RunningGal900 · June 2011

biblionerd:
luvdelilah:
We've got a scooter on our hands as well. I went in to get him yesterday and he'd moved himself all the way to one end of the bed - not sure how many times he'd scooted his head right into the crib slats... For now I hung a quilt over that end of the crib. I'm assuming that leaving the other three sides open makes this ok-ish? Guess I'll ask the pedi what we should do the next time we go in.
Hanging a quilt is much more dangerous. He could mash his face into it and not be able to move if he got himself wedged there, rebreathe carbon dioxide, it could fall into the crib etc. He's not going to lay there and bash his head into the crib and hurt himself.

Agree. The quilt could fall and he could get himself stuck in it. In my research and deciding whether I want to use bumpers, I came across a study that says that kids would have to bang their heads really hard to do any sort of damage and that they can't get up the kind of momentum needed for injuries. It seems that bumpers are still hanging around from back when cribs had slats that were far enough apart that kids could fit their heads through. Now they are required to be much closer together we don't have that problem.

htuzzi324 · June 2011

We use the bumpers that came with our bedding. DS is still alive and kicking. Literally. Everything is a hazard now. I survived with the bumper, I'm sure most of you did too, also with a drop-side crib with slats wide enough you could get your head through. You're all still alive, right?

Scout05 · June 2011

RunningGal900:

biblionerd:
luvdelilah:
We've got a scooter on our hands as well. I went in to get him yesterday and he'd moved himself all the way to one end of the bed - not sure how many times he'd scooted his head right into the crib slats... For now I hung a quilt over that end of the crib. I'm assuming that leaving the other three sides open makes this ok-ish? Guess I'll ask the pedi what we should do the next time we go in.
Hanging a quilt is much more dangerous. He could mash his face into it and not be able to move if he got himself wedged there, rebreathe carbon dioxide, it could fall into the crib etc. He's not going to lay there and bash his head into the crib and hurt himself.

Agree. The quilt could fall and he could get himself stuck in it. In my research and deciding whether I want to use bumpers, I came across a study that says that kids would have to bang their heads really hard to do any sort of damage and that they can't get up the kind of momentum needed for injuries. It seems that bumpers are still hanging around from back when cribs had slats that were far enough apart that kids could fit their heads through. Now they are required to be much closer together we don't have that problem.

Right, but they can still get arms and legs through the slats. That's our problem. I think the breathable bumpers are probably the best solution, I just have to get over my paranoia of anything in the crib.

Scout05 · June 2011

htuzzi324:
We use the bumpers that came with our bedding. DS is still alive and kicking. Literally. Everything is a hazard now. I survived with the bumper, I'm sure most of you did too, also with a drop-side crib with slats wide enough you could get your head through. You're all still alive, right?

Sure.

My grandma used to drive with my father in a basket in the front seat because that was what you did in those days. He's still alive.

But I'm guessing you are still going to put your LO in a car seat, because we've learned that car seats are much, much safer.

Don't think that logic of "well, my parents did it and I'm alive, so it's okay" always works out, you know?

LadyXaverian · June 2011

Scout05:

htuzzi324:
We use the bumpers that came with our bedding. DS is still alive and kicking. Literally. Everything is a hazard now. I survived with the bumper, I'm sure most of you did too, also with a drop-side crib with slats wide enough you could get your head through. You're all still alive, right?

Sure.

My grandma used to drive with my father in a basket in the front seat because that was what you did in those days. He's still alive.

But I'm guessing you are still going to put your LO in a car seat, because we've learned that car seats are much, much safer.

Don't think that logic of "well, my parents did it and I'm alive, so it's okay" always works out, you know?

We use breathable bumpers. I think they look much better than the fluffy ones that came with the set AND they give me a little peace of mind. I don't really care what others do. There are lots of things we all "survived", so to each her own. As long as you know the risks and they are risks you are willing to take, you know?

lhicks13 · June 2011

htuzzi324:
We use the bumpers that came with our bedding. DS is still alive and kicking. Literally. Everything is a hazard now. I survived with the bumper, I'm sure most of you did too, also with a drop-side crib with slats wide enough you could get your head through. You're all still alive, right?

I use a bumper with DS, and used one w/ DD too

htuzzi324 · June 2011

Scout05:
htuzzi324:
We use the bumpers that came with our bedding. DS is still alive and kicking. Literally. Everything is a hazard now. I survived with the bumper, I'm sure most of you did too, also with a drop-side crib with slats wide enough you could get your head through. You're all still alive, right?

Sure.

My grandma used to drive with my father in a basket in the front seat because that was what you did in those days. He's still alive.

But I'm guessing you are still going to put your LO in a car seat, because we've learned that car seats are much, much safer.

Don't think that logic of "well, my parents did it and I'm alive, so it's okay" always works out, you know?

I'm not saying EVERYTHING that is a hazard now is safe. Just using an example. Everyone gets up in arms about the bumpers, like your child is going to immediately die the second you place them in the crib. Car seats=smart. Bumpers=to each his own. Just giving my opinion and what I do for the OP.

biblionerd · June 2011

htuzzi324:
I'm not saying EVERYTHING that is a hazard now is safe. Just using an example. Everyone gets up in arms about the bumpers, like your child is going to immediately die the second you place them in the crib. Car seats=smart. Bumpers=to each his own. Just giving my opinion and what I do for the OP.

So do you just not believe the research or have you done your own studies? Car seats=smart, Bumpers=unsafe. I don't understand why they're necessary. Arms and legs through slats will not kill a child, a face up against slats will not kill a child, padded bumpers have killed children. To each their own, sure. Nobody is forcing you to use them, but I will never understand the people who do when there is legitimate research out there that says they are unsafe. Also, in regards to the "well, our parents all did this and we're still here". Yeah... because the babies/children who died in those car crashes and crib accidents would be on the boards? Of course we all survived. I'm sure there were plenty who didn't who obviously aren't here to tell us not to use them.

RunningGal900 · June 2011

It won't let me quote the whole chain from my iPad, but in response to Scout's quote of my quote, we have the same issue of DS sticking his appendages through the crib. I can't sleep with the bumpers up so they went back to the store. DS doesn't seem particularly bothered when he gets stuck, he just shrieks and we come move him. Ifi had a kid that screamed or seemed traumatized by sticking their body parts through I'd probably give it more of a try.

Scout05 · June 2011

RunningGal900:
It won't let me quote the whole chain from my iPad, but in response to Scout's quote of my quote, we have the same issue of DS sticking his appendages through the crib. I can't sleep with the bumpers up so they went back to the store. DS doesn't seem particularly bothered when he gets stuck, he just shrieks and we come move him. Ifi had a kid that screamed or seemed traumatized by sticking their body parts through I'd probably give it more of a try.

I wish your DS would tell DD to chill about her arm hanging through the slat. You would think she was being tortured or something. I go running into her room in a total panic hearing the screams, and her arm is just sort of hanging there, fine.

She might be a little bit of a drama queen. A little bit.

htuzzi324 · June 2011

biblionerd:
htuzzi324:
I'm not saying EVERYTHING that is a hazard now is safe. Just using an example. Everyone gets up in arms about the bumpers, like your child is going to immediately die the second you place them in the crib. Car seats=smart. Bumpers=to each his own. Just giving my opinion and what I do for the OP.
So do you just not believe the research or have you done your own studies? Car seats=smart, Bumpers=unsafe. I don't understand why they're necessary. Arms and legs through slats will not kill a child, a face up against slats will not kill a child, padded bumpers have killed children. To each their own, sure. Nobody is forcing you to use them, but I will never understand the people who do when there is legitimate research out there that says they are unsafe. Also, in regards to the "well, our parents all did this and we're still here". Yeah... because the babies/children who died in those car crashes and crib accidents would be on the boards? Of course we all survived. I'm sure there were plenty who didn't who obviously aren't here to tell us not to use them.

Like I said, to each his own. You do what you think is best for you, and I'll do what I think is best for me. Just giving MHO.

RunningGal900 · June 2011

Just back to the OP. Whatever you decide to do breathable bumper or not - you are not a bad mom because your LO stuck his legs through this morning! He didn't get hurt and is no worse for wear because of it. Don't beat yourself up.

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