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Am I the only one

that doesn't plan on ever CIO?  To each their own, but I just don't think that it will ever be something we do.  SD is 7 and we never let her CIO.  As she got older the routine changed.  We went from rocking her to sleep to sitting in bed and reading to her until she fell asleep.  At around 4 she would just go to sleep after we finished the story and said good night.  Am I crazy to think this is going to work again? 

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  • I don't plan on doing it.
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  • I don't plan on doing CIO.  Occasionally she fusses for a min before I can get to her if I'm pumping or in the bathroom but it's not ever more than a minute or two and she's not screaming, just kind of fusses
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  • No, you're not crazy. I definitely hope to avoid it completely if possible. Thankfully, DS sleeps pretty well and usually goes down fairly easily. 

    I mean, he definitely fusses sometimes, but I don't plan on intentionally letting him really cry until he sleeps at any point. Ferber or a a modified version would be a last resort in we had sleep problems. 

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  • I don't plan to ever use it but I think some feel like they don't have a choice because they've exhausted all other options (at least they perceive to have exhausted their options).  Of course, I feel some don't exhaust their options and go to CIO too quickly. 

    It breaks my heart to imagine my LO crying it out but it might be because he has been easily soothed thus far so he hasn't cried for more than maybe a minute at a time.  I wonder if I were in a different situation if I would try CIO if I didn't know what else to do and DS was unable to be soothed. 

    I go to DS at night even if he is just fussing/whining.  I don't pick him up out of the crib but I do change his position/pop the paci in his mouth/pat his back/etc to comfort him back to sleep.  Only if he starts crying will I pick him up since I know he must be hungry or need to be changed.  I hope I never have to resort to CIO.

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  • I don't plan on it either.
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  • Nope, I will not do it.   I can say that because was have been lucky and haven't had any sleep issues but I don't anticipate changing my mind even if we do.  
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  • Same here.

    We had a normal bedtime routine that evolved as we got older. It wasn't a method from some book, it was just common sense bedtime stuff... bath, story, bed.

  • I don't think we'll ever do CIO.  I hate listening to her cry because she can REALLY scream when she gets upset.  It's too sad to hear.
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  • I certainly don't ever plan to, but we've been lucky so far with his sleep habits. And by lucky I don't mean STTN by 4 weeks, he still doesn't do that. He gets up at least twice a night, but I can handle that. I can see how some people get desperate when their baby is waking up every hour at night and can't get them back to sleep. That's maybe when I would resort to some sort of sleep training. I could never do full on CIO though. I just hope it doesn't ever get to where I need to make a decision like that.
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  • Not planning on it. She is a pretty good self soother, but has never STTN. I'm not worried about it. I figure when she cries it's for a reason, so I'm not going to not get her.

    I don't judge people who do it though. If I had a difficult baby, and I we were both miserable, I would probably do it as a last resort. 

     

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  • I don't want to and never planned to, but I'm willing to try if we don't have progress with an earlier bedtime and good naps. DS is overtired constantly and just when I think we're good, he starts taking 4+ hours to settle down. I broke down and threatened to DH that I was ready to do it last night.

    I'll have to be desperate, but if I comes to that, we will.


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  • We hadn't planned on it.  Things had gotten progressively worse however and we were rocking her to sleep for hours for EVERY nap and every night sleep.  I don't know if I would really call it CIO because she never really cried. It was more fussing and that fake crying.  She is sleeping much better and is down in less then 10 mins.
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  • i never would true 'cio' but i had been rocking, nursing my LO down every night, but recently its been like 2-3 hours of 4+ cycles of her waking up when id put her in the crib and nursing and rocking again, so after reading the sleep lady sleep tight book, i tried her method (after legit 2 1/2 hours of trying the nursing rocking routine) of sitting next to her and soothing from outside the crib and patting her hand, with the plan to let her cry for 20 minutes at most. she cried for ten minutes then fell asleep. The next night it was 7 minutes. Last night she just went to sleep! if she ever got hysterical i would have picked her up, but it was all within reason. I hadnt let her cry more than 30 seconds probably since she was born, and she's never gone to bed drowsy so i think she just didn't know how to fall asleep on her own. If the nursing rocking had cont'd to work, I wouldn't have changed it as i actually enjoyed it, but its not been working anymore.
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  • Full on CIO - no. Ferber, maybe.
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  • I will let him fuss but not CIO. To me that's counterintuitive since I want him to relax and crying tends to just work him up.
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    imageLovingBaz:
    We hadn't planned on it.  Things had gotten progressively worse however and we were rocking her to sleep for hours for EVERY nap and every night sleep.  I don't know if I would really call it CIO because she never really cried. It was more fussing and that fake crying.  She is sleeping much better and is down in less then 10 mins.
      I don't consider this CIO.  Sometimes I swear E just wants to be put down and left alone.  She may fuss and move around for a few minutes but she isn't full blown crying

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  • I wont do it either.  I tried it once and lasted about 5 min and was practically in tears myself.  Never again.  DS is a pretty good sleeper though and has gotten better and better so I am just going to work with him and let him find his own comfort zone. He goes down pretty easily now.  During the 4MW was when I tried it because he wouldnt go down but that passed pretty quickly.
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    We hadn't planned on it.  Things had gotten progressively worse however and we were rocking her to sleep for hours for EVERY nap and every night sleep.  I don't know if I would really call it CIO because she never really cried. It was more fussing and that fake crying.  She is sleeping much better and is down in less then 10 mins.

    We did the same with JJ. Overall he's a good sleeper so we haven't had any issues. He's never really cried or screamed himself to sleep.

    TBH, I don't really understand what the big objection is. My parents used CIO with me and my brothers and none of us are emotionally scarred or even remember. My mom said it took no more than 2 nights and we never cried when going to bed again. I know it's "oldschool" but it worked for many parents back in the day and I don't know of any person who has been damaged by CIO. I'm just sayin'.

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  • Just can't do it. L is having a weird stage right now where he won't take his soother anymore and wants to suck on my nips or finger. I know people usually think I should just let him cry because it's not "realistic" to hold them and let them fall asleep by using you as a soother. I just think this is such a short period and although it can be tiring, I'd rather do that then listen to him scream his face off. It's not fair to him.
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    imageLovingBaz:
    We hadn't planned on it.  Things had gotten progressively worse however and we were rocking her to sleep for hours for EVERY nap and every night sleep.  I don't know if I would really call it CIO because she never really cried. It was more fussing and that fake crying.  She is sleeping much better and is down in less then 10 mins.
      I don't consider this CIO.  Sometimes I swear E just wants to be put down and left alone.  She may fuss and move around for a few minutes but she isn't full blown crying

    The first time it took 30 mins for her to go down, she'd cry a little I'd go in give her, her bink she'd stop crying, roll to her side and kind of chat to herself.

    I just couldn't take the hours of rocking anymore it wasn't doing any of us any good.

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    imageLovingBaz:
    We hadn't planned on it.  Things had gotten progressively worse however and we were rocking her to sleep for hours for EVERY nap and every night sleep.  I don't know if I would really call it CIO because she never really cried. It was more fussing and that fake crying.  She is sleeping much better and is down in less then 10 mins.
      I don't consider this CIO.  Sometimes I swear E just wants to be put down and left alone.  She may fuss and move around for a few minutes but she isn't full blown crying

    This. If that is how long it was taking to get her down, then you just have to do what works. It is better for baby and better for mama.

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    but it worked for many parents back in the day and I don't know of any person who has been damaged by CIO. I'm just sayin'.

    Terrible reason to do anything.

    I'm only referring to CIO. There are a lot of methods that our parents used that I don't agree with. But this, however, I just don't see why everyone is so against it other than the fact that they can't stand to hear their baby cry. I can't stand to hear J cry which is why I don't do it. My mom, on the other hand, was and is an incredible mother and I don't think her decision to let us CIO was wrong in any way.

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  • I never wanted to.  Then at 12 months old I had to.  He woke up at least once a night and going in there made it worse.  If he saw either of us he demanded a bottle that he did not need.  He would take two sips and go to sleep but if you refused him the bottle, there was no sleep to be had by anyone haha  We let him CIO and it took 4 minutes the first night and 4 minutes the second night.  He's been STTN for about a month now and it's been glorious haha
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    imageLovingBaz:
    We hadn't planned on it.  Things had gotten progressively worse however and we were rocking her to sleep for hours for EVERY nap and every night sleep.  I don't know if I would really call it CIO because she never really cried. It was more fussing and that fake crying.  She is sleeping much better and is down in less then 10 mins.
      I don't consider this CIO.  Sometimes I swear E just wants to be put down and left alone.  She may fuss and move around for a few minutes but she isn't full blown crying
    Yes!  DS is the same way.  He started being more fussy at bedtime maybe a week ago and I attempted to sooth him by holding him, rocking him, etc and eventually I thought maybe he just wanted to be put down.  When I put him down and put the paci in his mouth he calmed right down, rolled a few times, chatted to himself, and knocked right out.  I've been doing this ever since and it has really worked for him.
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  • I wouldnt necessarily say never, but I'd do it only if it were best for LO, and not because I didnt want to get up at night, or swaddle, or get a paci for LO.

    My DS didnt STTN until after 11 months, and has been an inconsistent sleeper, but I cant ever imagine letting him CIO. I dont know how people do it with young LOs, honestly. However, if DD/DS's sleep got so poor that they was miserable (and it wasnt something that passed in a few weeks time, since sleep regressions are completely normal and clear up in their own time) and every other no-cry option to improve sleep failed I would consider it. It would definitely be a very last resort.

    I think people are in too much of a rush to make their kids grow up. Most kids don't start kindergarten needing to be swaddled or have a paci. Kids will give up things in their own time-you dont necessarily need to rush them.

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  • We've come to a point with Lucian where he will not nap unless we put him in the swing and let him CIO for 5 minutes. Sometimes we'll get lucky and he'll fall asleep on his own or without a fight, but most times he'll get to where his eyes are red, he's rubbing his face and cranky, but refuses to sleep. So, we swaddle his arms down, turn the music/water sounds really loud on the swing, set him in it and close the door. When he's in refusal-mode, he'll cry, then wind down to a babbling whine, then fall asleep. And we try not to let him actually cry for more than the 5 minutes, because at that point we know a nap ain't happenin'. We hate doing it, but the kid is really stubborn. We really did try everything else first, and he would stay awake and blink at us like, "That all you got?"  

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  • CIO was never an option for us. 

    Just NMS at all. Any kind of CIO. Ferber included.

    I don't want O to ever feel that his call for help will go unanswered. Even though he isn't in any danger, his cries are simply a cry for help because he is a baby and doesn't know WTF is going on when he is alone in a crib in the dark. So I help him learn to soothe himself back to a state of calm, doing whatever is reasonably necessary to get him there. Usually it's just singing to him and stroking his hair, or just laying beside him or holding his hand.  

    ETA: imo, a baby's cry at this age is only a cry for help. Not a manipulative way to get the parent to come play at 3am.  

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  • We won't be doing it either. DS doesn't STTN and some nights are tougher than others, but we have a bedtime routine that I enjoy. I work FT so it just means I can spend more time with him, rather than be in another room listening to him cry.
  • I think everybody has their breaking point and it's easy to say you wouldn't do something if things are going relatively well and your baby is still a baby.  I never planned on doing it, but when DS was around 12-13 months we did.  He was still getting up every 2-3 hours and would only nap for 20-30 minutes.  I was exhausted and tried so many no-cry solutions and nothing worked.  So the first night it took around 15 min., then the second night was around 7, then 2-3 min. the third night and then no crying and he only got up once at night to nurse until around 14 mo. and I was fine with that.  I felt that I knew his crying at that age and it was different than an infant's cry, if that makes sense. 

    I still don't plan on doing CIO with DD, but she is already left to cry at times b/c I can't always jump in and grab her if I'm tending to DS.  However, she sleeps 8ish hours at night and is a much better sleeper, so I don't feel like there is much to do.  Would I rather she go to bed earlier and nap longer?  Yes.  But I'm still hopeful that since she's so young that she will get there in her own time.  Unfortunately, my DS didn't on his own and it was rough and looking back I believe I had some form of PPD b/c of it.  I cried a lot from being so tired and that's not good for anybody.

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  • I don't plan on CIO, but I'm open to it if we need to do it. To me it's not a "rite of passage" for getting to a certain age like it is with solids.
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  • Honestly Im not even considering it at all.
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  • We didn't CIO for DS1 but something had to be done for DS2 as I was having to bring him into a dark room and walk and "bounce" him for 20 minutes to get him asleep and then pray as I laid him down all while I'd have to try to keep my toddler quiet to not wake him up while doing so.  We couldn't keep going down that path and CIO is what got us going in the right direction.  He still gets cuddled and fed a bottle and rocked before bed but he's put down awake yet drowsy now and can put himself to sleep.  He's very happy and is sleeping much better now.  I wish we could have done the same as we did with DS1 and just had the natural progression from rocking to sleep to drowsy but awake, etc, etc but given our situation, it just wasn't feasible.  
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    To anyone who posted here that does or has tried CIO,  not one of your situations is what I consider CIO.  I think what you are doing IMO is called adapting to your childs needs.  When I think CIO, I think of that one girl who let her baby scream for over an hour and wanted us to be impressed by it.

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  • I don't, but only because I have the best sleeper in the world. We put him down wide awake every night and he falls asleep in under 5 minutes and sleeps 7 - 8 hours, followed by another 4 - 5.

    Naps are a bit harder because he's not swaddled but we put him down wide awake after 1.5 - 2 hours of being awake and he's out in under 10 minutes for about an hour most times.

    If I had a child that was waking every 20 minutes, had trouble falling asleep, or screamed for hours on end I'd defintely consider it.

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  • Yeah it's not really something I want to do, I also let her "fuss it out" though. She will do a little whining for about five minutes before bed time and then I will nurse her to sleep. I see it as her tension release.
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