what do you think of "leashes"?

bogus123 · May 2011

I had to run to the store this morning and I saw a mom and daughter walking down the isle. No big deal...then I saw the little girl had this backpack looking thing and it had a leash connected to it. I have never seen this in my life. So I got home and googled these things. I think they are kinda strange, but I guess if the kid has the tendency to run off it would work. I mean, its not around their neck, but I just don't think I could put this on my son. What do you think about them?

CinemaGoddess · May 2011

I will be using them.

sweetcaroline10 · May 2011

**waits for the sh!tstorm to start**

Kara5109 · May 2011

I can't stand them.

SimoneSays22 · May 2011

Honestly, I'm not judging until I have a toddler running around. I don't know what it's like at this point.

monkiem · May 2011

To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.

That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.

HappyDaze12 · May 2011

I am not even going to get involved with this one.

Rach21 · May 2011

As a kid who once ran off at DisneyWorld when I was 5 years old, I see the value of leashes. Someone (a lady with 5 kids) went off-registry at my baby shower and bought me one when she heard I was having a boy. As active as my DS is--and as scary close to MY personality as he is--I have a feeling we'll use it often.

J+MS · May 2011

please, not this again

Mama_SAS · May 2011

Love them.

C&P my reply from last time the topic came up:

Due to DS's sensory issues he flipped out whenever we were in a crowd and it got loud. He would bolt, usually toward the road since the road isn't crowded & he loves vehicles. Also due to his sensory issues he can't distinguish one voice from another when there is a lot of noise and can't hear me yelling "Stop!"Because of this I strapped a monkey backpack on him (with the end around my wrist) every afternoon for months and walked around our neighborhood. He had to hold my hand, but if he twisted out of my grasp and ran he was still attached to me and could only go 2-3 feet away. We practiced walking and practiced staying with me instead of running when upset and practiced telling me when he was upset, when it was too loud, when he felt bad (overstimulated).

By the time he was 3 I felt it was safe to bring him out without it despite his special needs. If it wasn't for that monkey backpack I would have had him strapped screaming in a stroller until he was much older, which doesn't teach a thing except to hate going anywhere.

hermione76 · May 2011

I won't say I will never use one.

LittleGus · May 2011

SimoneSays22:
Honestly, I'm not judging until I have a toddler running around. I don't know what it's like at this point.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Sure leashes are for animals that you don't want to run away, but uh, I don't want my kid to run away either. Jury is out until my kid can run.

MissNikki007 · May 2011

They're not for me.

QueenBee320 · May 2011

Mama_SAS:
Love them.
C&P my reply from last time the topic came up:
Due to DS's sensory issues he flipped out whenever we were in a crowd and it got loud. He would bolt, usually toward the road since the road isn't crowded & he loves vehicles. Also due to his sensory issues he can't distinguish one voice from another when there is a lot of noise and can't hear me yelling "Stop!"Because of this I strapped a monkey backpack on him (with the end around my wrist) every afternoon for months and walked around our neighborhood. He had to hold my hand, but if he twisted out of my grasp and ran he was still attached to me and could only go 2-3 feet away. We practiced walking and practiced staying with me instead of running when upset and practiced telling me when he was upset, when it was too loud, when he felt bad (overstimulated).
By the time he was 3 I felt it was safe to bring him out without it despite his special needs. If it wasn't for that monkey backpack I would have had him strapped screaming in a stroller until he was much older, which doesn't teach a thing except to hate going anywhere.

I need to do this!

KelzinBoston · May 2011

If I had twins or kids very close in age...I'd definitely consider it.

I used to say "no way", then I had a Toddler while living in the city.

I didn't go the leash route...but I made him sit in the stroller for subway trips and walks downtown where it was incredibly busy. I still make him sit in the double if he's not listening or we're in a very busy area and I'm alone with both kids.

It's not being lazy...it's being safe.

southernsweetieal · May 2011

I will never put one on my child. I hate them. Confused

but I may get this pen they wear that you can push a button and do like a panic button for a car so if she does wonder one day.

MamaLBF · May 2011

I'm not really sure what I think about them. I think I'll decide when it comes to the point where he's walking with me.

Mama_SAS · May 2011

monkiem:
To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.
That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.

I agree. But it's not instinctual. They need to learn how to listen and the leash is a great safety device while teaching them how to listen and how to act.

wife1014 · May 2011

Until you have a toddler, you will never know. That being said, do I think they need to be used in a store, no. If your child doesn't stay with you in a store, use a stroller or the shopping cart. Do I think they should be used in Disney or a crowded fair, yes. If you don't have a child who will hold your hand and walk next you, a harness can be very useful. Personally, I would rather go home with my child then not. We used one in Disney when Olivia was 18months. It gave her a chance to get out of the stroller and ensured we left the park with her.

SarahWaggy · May 2011

I will be using them. I can't tell you how many times when I was a nanny that I had to put this on the 14 year old boy (he is severely Autistic) because he would see something and just book it. I think they are really helpful when children are at the age where they just like to run.

KelzinBoston · May 2011

monkiem:

To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.

That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.

Even very well behaved kids will have moments where they run off/don't listen. The 18 months- 2 year mark had a lot of these moments and I will say my son was very good overall.

QueenBee320 · May 2011

Mama_SAS:
monkiem:
To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.
That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.
I agree. But it's not instinctual. They need to learn how to listen and the leash is a great safety device while teaching them how to listen and how to act.

Well put MamaSAS (I think I may have a bump crush on you!)

This is my defensive response to the parents should parent their children argument c&p from last time this came up: (I'm not directing this at you Monkiem, I'm just being too lazy to type something new.)

The fact that I've used a "leash" on my daughter in no way means that I can't/don't parent her. It means that she is an active child and I'm afraid of her out running me in a crowd or bolting into traffic. You don't have to use one but you shouldn't be so judgemental of those who do, you don't know their child or what's best for them.

Kate621 · May 2011

I love leashes. I leash Jack to the radiator every morning when I go outside to have my morning cig and cup of coffee.

I will also use them on my toddler if/when the time comes.

Mama_SAS · May 2011

wife1014:
Until you have a toddler, you will never know. That being said, do I think they need to be used in a store, no. If your child doesn't stay with you in a store, use a stroller or the shopping cart. Do I think they should be used in Disney or a crowded fair, yes. If you don't have a child who will hold your hand and walk next you, a harness can be very useful. Personally, I would rather go home with my child then not. We used one in Disney when Olivia was 18months. It gave her a chance to get out of the stroller and ensured we left the park with her.

Eh, we never really used them in the store because for us it was a safe place to practice walking together and staying calm without it. But you never know what's going on with someone else you see. The kid could have autism and hate strollers or be deaf and need the leash to just know where the family is. The mother might have a shoulder injury and can only use one hand so a leash is a better option than a stroller.

Basically it could just be the happiest and safest way for that family to go to the store and a leash is a restraining device just like a stroller; it's just shaped differently.

monkiem · May 2011

KelzinBoston:
monkiem:

To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.

That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.

Even very well behaved kids will have moments where they run off/don't listen. The 18 months- 2 year mark had a lot of these moments and I will say my son was very good overall.

Totally understandable! All I'm saying, is that as a parent, you do what you have to do make sure your kid is safe, right?

bogus123 · May 2011

J+MS I only posted this because I have never seen one and I haven't seen this topic before. So I'm not trying to start anything. I am on my phone and can't look up previous topics. I was just curious, that's all.

southernsweetieal · May 2011

southernsweetieal: I will never put one on my child. I hate them. but I may get this pen they wear that you can push a button and do like a panic button for a car so if she does wonder one day. not saying this would happen but that pen won't help if she runs into a street, like one of the pp's son does. I thought of just getting the alarm thing too but if my kid is very hyper and has a tendency to bolt, he'll be leashed till he learns how to control himself

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well in areas like that i know she will be in a stroller cause toddlers and small kids get tired of walking ect and dont listen sometimes. When I would let her walk or be free really wouldnt be in an area where there would be lots of dangers like streets to run out to (contained areas). but saying that its everyones choice to do what they see fit. but my preferance i will not keep mine on a leash like a dog. sorry but thats just me. flame on lol

wife1014 · May 2011

Mama_SAS:

wife1014:
Until you have a toddler, you will never know. That being said, do I think they need to be used in a store, no. If your child doesn't stay with you in a store, use a stroller or the shopping cart. Do I think they should be used in Disney or a crowded fair, yes. If you don't have a child who will hold your hand and walk next you, a harness can be very useful. Personally, I would rather go home with my child then not. We used one in Disney when Olivia was 18months. It gave her a chance to get out of the stroller and ensured we left the park with her.

Eh, we never really used them in the store because for us it was a safe place to practice walking together and staying calm without it. But you never know what's going on with someone else you see. The kid could have autism and hate strollers or be deaf and need the leash to just know where the family is. The mother might have a shoulder injury and can only use one hand so a leash is a better option than a stroller.

Basically it could just be the happiest and safest way for that family to go to the store and a leash is a restraining device just like a stroller; it's just shaped differently.

I would not call a stoller a restraining device but whatever. I do understand where you are coming from in regards to reasons a harness would be used in a store. However, personally I would much rather have MY child in the stroller or a shopping cart than on a harness.

monkiem · May 2011

QueenBee320:
Mama_SAS:
monkiem:
To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.
That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.
I agree. But it's not instinctual. They need to learn how to listen and the leash is a great safety device while teaching them how to listen and how to act.
Well put MamaSAS (I think I may have a bump crush on you!)
This is my defensive response to the parents should parent their children argument c&p from last time this came up: (I'm not directing this at you Monkiem, I'm just being too lazy to type something new.)
The fact that I've used a "leash" on my daughter in no way means that I can't/don't parent her. It means that she is an active child and I'm afraid of her out running me in a crowd or bolting into traffic. You don't have to use one but you shouldn't be so judgemental of those who do, you don't know their child or what's best for them.

Oh no! You misread my post! I don't judge those who use the leashes! I plan on using one myself when the time arrives! Particularly in busy places. I guess I should recant what I said....?

My mum had to use one with me. Not because I would run off, but because I had a tendency to talk to EVERYONE. And follow them. LOL

QueenBee320 · May 2011

southernsweetieal:
southernsweetieal: I will never put one on my child. I hate them. but I may get this pen they wear that you can push a button and do like a panic button for a car so if she does wonder one day. not saying this would happen but that pen won't help if she runs into a street, like one of the pp's son does. I thought of just getting the alarm thing too but if my kid is very hyper and has a tendency to bolt, he'll be leashed till he learns how to control himself

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well in areas like that i know she will be in a stroller cause toddlers and small kids get tired of walking ect and dont listen sometimes. When I would let her walk or be free really wouldnt be in an area where there would be lots of dangers like streets to run out to (contained areas). but saying that its everyones choice to do what they see fit. but my preferance i will not keep mine on a leash like a dog. sorry but thats just me. flame on lol

C&P from my response on yet another leash debate:

I used a "leash" on my older daughter. I hate it when people say I won't use one because my kid is not an animal. If you don't want to use one fine, but don't act like I'm treating my kid like a dog because I'm worried about her safety. DD was a bolter and in a crowd there was no way I was taking any chances with her!

RunningWife · May 2011

Depends on where we are.

If I'm wandering around the grocery store that's not very busy, I'm not going to.

However, if I happen to have my child at an outdoor fair or something with 9 million people in attendence, I may consider it.

However, they won't be an everyday thing in my house.

QueenBee320 · May 2011

monkiem:
QueenBee320:
Mama_SAS:
monkiem:
To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.
That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.
I agree. But it's not instinctual. They need to learn how to listen and the leash is a great safety device while teaching them how to listen and how to act.
Well put MamaSAS (I think I may have a bump crush on you!)
This is my defensive response to the parents should parent their children argument c&p from last time this came up: (I'm not directing this at you Monkiem, I'm just being too lazy to type something new.)
The fact that I've used a "leash" on my daughter in no way means that I can't/don't parent her. It means that she is an active child and I'm afraid of her out running me in a crowd or bolting into traffic. You don't have to use one but you shouldn't be so judgemental of those who do, you don't know their child or what's best for them.
Oh no! You misread my post! I don't judge those who use the leashes! I plan on using one myself when the time arrives! Particularly in busy places. I guess I should recant what I said....?
My mum had to use one with me. Not because I would run off, but because I had a tendency to talk to EVERYONE. And follow them. LOL

No need! I wasn't taking offense to you, I know you didn't mean to be judgey, I was just being lazy and posted this old response.

southernsweetieal · May 2011

southernsweetieal:

southernsweetieal: I will never put one on my child. I hate them. but I may get this pen they wear that you can push a button and do like a panic button for a car so if she does wonder one day. not saying this would happen but that pen won't help if she runs into a street, like one of the pp's son does. I thought of just getting the alarm thing too but if my kid is very hyper and has a tendency to bolt, he'll be leashed till he learns how to control himself

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well in areas like that i know she will be in a stroller cause toddlers and small kids get tired of walking ect and dont listen sometimes. When I would let her walk or be free really wouldnt be in an area where there would be lots of dangers like streets to run out to (contained areas). but saying that its everyones choice to do what they see fit. but my preferance i will not keep mine on a leash like a dog. sorry but thats just me. flame on lol

C&P from my response on yet another leash debate:

I used a "leash" on my older daughter. I hate it when people say I won't use one because my kid is not an animal. If you don't want to use one fine, but don't act like I'm treating my kid like a dog because I'm worried about her safety. DD was a bolter and in a crowd there was no way I was taking any chances with her!
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All Im saying is I feel that I would rather have my child in a stroller rather than a leash i just feel like i would be treating her or walking her like my pet. Not that the child is an animal. If she was that rambucious i wouldn't want to keep pulling her back this way and saying no come over here ect like when im walking my dogs or her get mad cause she cant go where she wants and try to throw a fit and fall in the floor ect. Ive seen parents dragging them. i just assume put her in a stroller until she understands how to walk with us without running off. and until she learns that she will just go back into the stroller.

Mama_SAS · May 2011

wife1014:
Mama_SAS:

wife1014:
Until you have a toddler, you will never know. That being said, do I think they need to be used in a store, no. If your child doesn't stay with you in a store, use a stroller or the shopping cart. Do I think they should be used in Disney or a crowded fair, yes. If you don't have a child who will hold your hand and walk next you, a harness can be very useful. Personally, I would rather go home with my child then not. We used one in Disney when Olivia was 18months. It gave her a chance to get out of the stroller and ensured we left the park with her.
Eh, we never really used them in the store because for us it was a safe place to practice walking together and staying calm without it. But you never know what's going on with someone else you see. The kid could have autism and hate strollers or be deaf and need the leash to just know where the family is. The mother might have a shoulder injury and can only use one hand so a leash is a better option than a stroller.
Basically it could just be the happiest and safest way for that family to go to the store and a leash is a restraining device just like a stroller; it's just shaped differently.
I would not call a stoller a restraining device but whatever. I do understand where you are coming from in regards to reasons a harness would be used in a store. However, personally I would much rather have MY child in the stroller or a shopping cart than on a harness.

If you're using a stroller or a store cart because your child won't stay with you in a store then you're using it for the same purpose as a leash, which I would call a restraining device. That's my only point - if you're using them both for the purpose of keeping your child with you then I don't see why one is better than another.

I'm not trying to debate anything, just clarifying what I meant by that and I bolded what in your original post that my comment was in response to.

Mama_SAS · May 2011

southernsweetieal:
southernsweetieal:
southernsweetieal: I will never put one on my child. I hate them. but I may get this pen they wear that you can push a button and do like a panic button for a car so if she does wonder one day. not saying this would happen but that pen won't help if she runs into a street, like one of the pp's son does. I thought of just getting the alarm thing too but if my kid is very hyper and has a tendency to bolt, he'll be leashed till he learns how to control himself
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well in areas like that i know she will be in a stroller cause toddlers and small kids get tired of walking ect and dont listen sometimes. When I would let her walk or be free really wouldnt be in an area where there would be lots of dangers like streets to run out to (contained areas). but saying that its everyones choice to do what they see fit. but my preferance i will not keep mine on a leash like a dog. sorry but thats just me. flame on lol

C&P from my response on yet another leash debate:
I used a "leash" on my older daughter. I hate it when people say I won't use one because my kid is not an animal. If you don't want to use one fine, but don't act like I'm treating my kid like a dog because I'm worried about her safety. DD was a bolter and in a crowd there was no way I was taking any chances with her!
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All Im saying is I feel that I would rather have my child in a stroller rather than a leash i just feel like i would be treating her or walking her like my pet. Not that the child is an animal. If she was that rambucious i wouldn't want to keep pulling her back this way and saying no come over here ect like when im walking my dogs or her get mad cause she cant go where she wants and try to throw a fit and fall in the floor ect. Ive seen parents dragging them. i just assume put her in a stroller until she understands how to walk with us without running off. and until she learns that she will just go back into the stroller.

Devil's advocate here - how will she learn anything sitting in a stroller?

With a leash you can make her hold your hand and walk with you while having the leash on as back up in case she runs. Then you can teach her how to act in public.

pepomntpat · May 2011

I think leashes are awesome, especially in crowded places like the zoo.

LO isn't stuck in a stroller. S/he can get up and run around.

LO doesn't have to walk around with his/her arm in the air.

You can't lose track.

I think they are great and we will use them.

southernsweetieal · May 2011

southernsweetieal:

southernsweetieal:

southernsweetieal: I will never put one on my child. I hate them. but I may get this pen they wear that you can push a button and do like a panic button for a car so if she does wonder one day. not saying this would happen but that pen won't help if she runs into a street, like one of the pp's son does. I thought of just getting the alarm thing too but if my kid is very hyper and has a tendency to bolt, he'll be leashed till he learns how to control himself

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well in areas like that i know she will be in a stroller cause toddlers and small kids get tired of walking ect and dont listen sometimes. When I would let her walk or be free really wouldnt be in an area where there would be lots of dangers like streets to run out to (contained areas). but saying that its everyones choice to do what they see fit. but my preferance i will not keep mine on a leash like a dog. sorry but thats just me. flame on lol

C&P from my response on yet another leash debate:

I used a "leash" on my older daughter. I hate it when people say I won't use one because my kid is not an animal. If you don't want to use one fine, but don't act like I'm treating my kid like a dog because I'm worried about her safety. DD was a bolter and in a crowd there was no way I was taking any chances with her!
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All Im saying is I feel that I would rather have my child in a stroller rather than a leash i just feel like i would be treating her or walking her like my pet. Not that the child is an animal. If she was that rambucious i wouldn't want to keep pulling her back this way and saying no come over here ect like when im walking my dogs or her get mad cause she cant go where she wants and try to throw a fit and fall in the floor ect. Ive seen parents dragging them. i just assume put her in a stroller until she understands how to walk with us without running off. and until she learns that she will just go back into the stroller.

Devil's advocate here - how will she learn anything sitting in a stroller?

With a leash you can make her hold your hand and walk with you while having the leash on as back up in case she runs. Then you can teach her how to act in public. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

like i mentioned earlier i will let her walk with me in contained areas where there is not as much danger but if she acts up or doesnt listen she will be promply put back in the stroller and she will learn if she wants to walk she must behave and listen if not she will be put in the stroller. and if she throws a fit we will deal with that as well. but i wont be having the leash.

Mama_SAS · May 2011

QueenBee320:
Mama_SAS:
monkiem:
To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.
That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.
I agree. But it's not instinctual. They need to learn how to listen and the leash is a great safety device while teaching them how to listen and how to act.
Well put MamaSAS (I think I may have a bump crush on you!)
This is my defensive response to the parents should parent their children argument c&p from last time this came up: (I'm not directing this at you Monkiem, I'm just being too lazy to type something new.)
The fact that I've used a "leash" on my daughter in no way means that I can't/don't parent her. It means that she is an active child and I'm afraid of her out running me in a crowd or bolting into traffic. You don't have to use one but you shouldn't be so judgemental of those who do, you don't know their child or what's best for them.

I've been pretty defensive on here on this subject in the past, too.

Honestly I don't care how people feel about me using a leash but I hate that judgmental asses will make someone else not use one when it might save their child's life. I know not every child would need one, but I know it definitely saved my kid's life more than once and if I had been afraid of what others thought my kid might not be here today.

KelzinBoston · May 2011

I put my kid in a stroller...like a dog.

What's the difference?

wife1014 · May 2011

Mama_SAS:
QueenBee320:
Mama_SAS:
monkiem:

To be honest, I kinda think the backpack ones are cute. I'm also not against using one if need be. Particularly if you're in a busy airport, or something of the sort.

That being said, children do need to know how to listen, if nothing else, for their own safety. And parents need to know how to control their children. There's nothing worse than the families you see in restaurants and other places who's children don't listen to them, and the parents are like, "oh, please stop..." or "please sit down", etc., and yet they continue to run like wild banshees.

I agree. But it's not instinctual. They need to learn how to listen and the leash is a great safety device while teaching them how to listen and how to act.

Well put MamaSAS (I think I may have a bump crush on you!)

This is my defensive response to the parents should parent their children argument c&p from last time this came up: (I'm not directing this at you Monkiem, I'm just being too lazy to type something new.)

The fact that I've used a "leash" on my daughter in no way means that I can't/don't parent her. It means that she is an active child and I'm afraid of her out running me in a crowd or bolting into traffic. You don't have to use one but you shouldn't be so judgemental of those who do, you don't know their child or what's best for them.

I've been pretty defensive on here on this subject in the past, too.

Honestly I don't care how people feel about me using a leash but I hate that judgmental asses will make someone else not use one when it might save their child's life. I know not every child would need one, but I know it definitely saved my kid's life more than once and if I had been afraid of what others thought my kid might not be here today.

I have no clue how to quote more than one post.

I can see what you are saying about the stroller/shopping cart, I just don't think of it that way.

I also need you to know that in no way do I judge the use of the harness. As I said in my original reply, I have used one. I will use one again if necessary. I would much rather go home with my child than not. If using a harness ensures that, then it will be used.

southernsweetieal · May 2011

love it lol...its like putting a dog in a purse would you do that too but with a baby lol Big Smile

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