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What do you think of baptism?

Roman's baptism is scheduled on May 15th. Seeing as we got married in the Catholic church and are very serious about our religion, we would love to see R be baptized and attend a private Catholic school when the time comes.

 I posted on FB about R's tux and got a pretty ignorant response:

Her: "I just don't agree with baptising babies when they are not even old enough to make their own decisiions haha... I would hate my parents if they baptised me.... just saying :) haha"

Me: "Baptism isn't about Roman making the decision of religion, nor will his first communion be. It's presenting him to a spiritual life and allowing him to be "born again". Most parents decide on baptism because it introduces the child as God's... son. Yes, we eventually would like to see him be confirmed, to take Catholicism as his chosen religion.
The Catholic church doesn't use baptism to solidify the child into the religion, it's merely a practice. During his confirmation, Roman can chose to reject or accept the practice of religion."  Are you or have you had LO baptized and what is your reason for doing so or not doing so?

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  • I would tell her to butt out of your business because she obviously doesn't know what she is talking about.
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  • DD will be baptised the same day as Ronan. She is an ignorant twat and has no right telling you what you should or shouldn't do with your DS.

    I am not a very religous person but I want my child to be accepted into a spiritual life, she can do what she wants later in life.

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  • In the Episcopal church, baptism is a welcoming into the church community.  Finn was baptized and will make his own decision years down the road whether or not he will be confirmed in the Episcopal faith.  It will be totally up to him.  Pretty much the same as in the Catholic church.

    However, I don't think our traditions (yours and mine, OP) are the norm which is why you got the reaction you did.  

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  • imageemilydholmes1:
    I would tell her to butt out of your business because she obviously doesn't know what she is talking about.
    Well, clearly. She shuns any religion, I think, purely out of conformity and ignorance. She isn't well-read into any of it, so it's simple to condemn something for it's facade. 
  • My mom is catholic and never got around to getting us baptized as babies. I am not religious now, but i was as a teen and wished she had done it. It's such a pain to get baptized as an adult. DH is also catholic and together we decided to get DD baptized. She will always be free to choose her own way in life, but if that way happens to involve Catholicism, at least we have given her this foundation. Even as an agnostic adult, I certainly wouldn't have resented my mom for getting me baptized if she had.
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  • She's clearly an idiot and while your response was really good, it's doubtful she'll take anything from it.

     We baptised our children b/c our faith is important to us. It was our way of introducing them to the church and the religion.  they will have the opportunity at confirmation (and really anytime in their adult lives) to choose for themselves what to believe/practice.  I'm not forcing anything on them right now.  I can't imagine why anyone would ever hate their parents for baptising them.  If they don't want to be Catholic, they don't have to. 

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    imageemilydholmes1:
    I would tell her to butt out of your business because she obviously doesn't know what she is talking about.
    Well, clearly. She shuns any religion, I think, purely out of conformity and ignorance. She isn't well-read into any of it, so it's simple to condemn something for it's facade. 

    She isn't well read nor is she into spelling words correctly. Screw her.

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    In the Episcopal church, baptism is a welcoming into the church community.  Finn was baptized and will make his own decision years down the road whether or not he will be confirmed in the Episcopal faith.  It will be totally up to him.  Pretty much the same as in the Catholic church.

    However, I don't think our traditions (yours and mine, OP) are the norm which is why you got the reaction you did.  

    I guess I was just under the impression that it was a common practice to have your child baptized. Not everyone does it, but it's isn't too rare!

    I mean, we aren't sacrificing the baby or something Indifferent

  • Thats a pretty rude and ignorant comment for someone to make.

    As for us, we aren't religious and we don't attend church, so we won't be baptizing Luke.

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  • You should be able to do as you wish. It is your child and your views.

    We don't practice Baptism until you ask and you're aware of the meaning behind it. We dedicate our kids. This is our promise to raise our kids with the word and knowledge of God. What they choose to do after is their business and I will support them.

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    imageemilydholmes1:
    I would tell her to butt out of your business because she obviously doesn't know what she is talking about.
    Well, clearly. She shuns any religion, I think, purely out of conformity and ignorance. She isn't well-read into any of it, so it's simple to condemn something for it's facade. 

    She isn't well read nor is she into spelling words correctly. Screw her.

    Funny that illiterate people who protests things on FB lately seem to be uber dumbasses. 

  • I can't stand this new trend of adding "haha" or "lol" to a rude statement, as though that makes it okay. This is a clear example of how it makes the statement even more disrespectful. End rant.

    We are not baptizing for our own reasons, but I understand why others choose to do it. I would never criticize someone else for following their own beliefs, just because they are different than mine.

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  • Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

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    imagekmeek19:

    Roman's baptism is scheduled on May 15th. Seeing as we got married in the Catholic church and are very serious about our religion, we would love to see R be baptized and attend a private Catholic school when the time comes.

     I posted on FB about R's tux and got a pretty ignorant response:

    Her: "I just don't agree with baptising babies when they are not even old enough to make their own decisiions haha... I would hate my parents if they baptised me.... just saying :) haha"

    Me: "Baptism isn't about Roman making the decision of religion, nor will his first communion be. It's presenting him to a spiritual life and allowing him to be "born again". Most parents decide on baptism because it introduces the child as God's... son. Yes, we eventually would like to see him be confirmed, to take Catholicism as his chosen religion.

    The Catholic church doesn't use baptism to solidify the child into the religion, it's merely a practice. During his confirmation, Roman can chose to reject or accept the practice of religion."
     
     
    Are you or have you had LO baptized and what is your reason for doing so or not doing so?

     

    The FB comment is really ignorant - yes, some denominations don't do infant baptism, but others do and people should respect that.

    We're having J baptized on Sunday, and it's a super big deal to my H & I.  We're doing it for the same reasons you are: introducing J that she is God's child, and she can choose whether or not to be confirmed when the time comes (and I really hope she chooses to do so!).  We're Lutheran by the way, so some of the thinking is similar to Catholicism - but not totally the same, KWIM?

    Exactly.

    By the way, I love when you post so that I can see your cute little preemie. 

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    As for us, we aren't religious and we don't attend church, so we won't be baptizing Luke.

    This is us as well.




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  • for me, we might get lo baptized because dh's family is sporadically super catholic. i am an agnostic. to me, it's an occasion for cute pictures. i won't fight it if they start making noises. on the other hand, i am unbaptized and dh's aunt once told me she could tell which kids were baptized on the playground. that's kind of awful, isn't it?

    more to the point though, my dad was raised catholic and baptist because of the point your friend brought up. his parents couldn't agree. he was baptized twice and now he hates church. it's not ignorance, it's a bona fide religious disagreement.

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  • I'm a Baptist and we believe baptism is performed when a child/adult/senior citizen puts their trust/faith in Jesus Christ. Usually the person being baptized will confess in front of the church that they believe Jesus Christ died for their sins, he was buried, and rose from the dead, and they accept Him as their Savior. Then he/she will be immersed in the water as a symbol of how we are "buried with Christ in baptism, and risen to walk in the newness of life." (Romans 6:4) Since infants cannot confess their personal faith, we don't do infant baptism. (We do, however, believe that children who have not reached an age where they understand right and wrong are protected by God and will go to heaven if they die. Same with severely mentally handicapped people who do not understand right and wrong.)

    Families in our church have "baby dedications" where we stand in front of our church family and state that we choose to raise our child in our faith, and our church family in turn states they will support us and help us.

    I'm not judging or side-eying or swaying towards my cause, just explaining the different view of baptism for my denomination compared to others. Whether a baby is baptized or dedicated doesn't make up that child's mind over their eternal salvation or what denomination/faith they want to practice, but it's a symbol of their parents' desire to raise them in faith.

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  • We're not baptising the girls because A) We don't have a church right now and B) We want them to be able to make their own decisions about religion later in life.  So with B I'm kind of like your FB friend, but not as douchy. 

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    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

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    DD will be baptised the same day as Ronan. She is an ignorant twat and has no right telling you what you should or shouldn't do with your DS.

    I am not a very religous person but I want my child to be accepted into a spiritual life, she can do what she wants later in life.

    This. She clearly doesn't understand what baptism is, at least in the catholic church.

    We will not be baptizing Morgan, as it would be hypocritical for us to do so as we are not religious nor do we plan on raising her in a church.

    That being said, I was baptized as a child and do not harbor any ill feelings toward my parents for doing so. It is part of the ritual of their church and they baptized me as a sign that they would raise me in the beliefs of the catholic church (which they did).

    I edited to add "she doesn't understand what baptism is, at least in the catholic church".

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    imageShamlet123:

    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    Wait...what?

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

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  • imagekmeek19:
    imageShamlet123:

    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    This is going to be the next clicky poll this afternoon. Have you ever slept with a girl? Hah someone will start it.

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    imagekmeek19:
    imageShamlet123:

    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    Wait...what?

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

    DETAILS pleaze!

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  • MIL was raised "Protestant". She, however, doesn't understand that this generally means any Christian faith outside of the Catholic faith. Regardless, whichever religion it is she grew up with, they baptised as youth/adults. She's since converted to Catholicism as that is her husband's religion.

    When DH was deciding whether or not to convert to the Lutheran faith (mine) his mother would constantly say, "The Pastors always say 'remember your baptism.' Well, you can't. You were babies. I can," with the smuggest smile on her face.

    My argument: baptism is just as much about me vowing that G will be raised in the Christian faith as it is about G being part of God's family. In the our church, we confirm right aroung 8th grade or so. During confirmation, each child answers the same questions that were answered by his/her sponsors on his/her behalf when he/she was baptized. Whether or not you can physically remember your baptism, you can remember what it means and know that your parents cared enough about you to commit you to God when you were too small to answer for yourself. That's our job as parents IMHO, to do the things for our child that he/she isn't yet able to do alone.

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  • This might make me sound like a very silly Catholic, but part of the reason I had J baptized was because the church still technically holds that unbaptized people go to limbo rather than heaven when they die. I don't really believe it, but if (God forbid) the unthinkable happened to J, I'd feel terrible if he was unbaptized. That may mean I'm crazy.
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    Exactly.

    By the way, I love when you post so that I can see your cute little preemie. 

    Well thank you!  I'm hoping to have some more cute pictures of J after Sunday!  :-) 

    She really is just the cutest little gal.

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    imagekmeek19:
    imageShamlet123:

    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    This is going to be the next clicky poll this afternoon. Have you ever slept with a girl? Hah someone will start it.

    I'm more fascinated by the "first" part, implying there will be others. 

    Hmmmmmm....Confused

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  • imagekmeek19:
    imageShamlet123:

    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    Well that changes everything.

    Maybe she's just a little sour about the break up still?

    You know what they say about your first. 

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  • imageemilydholmes1:
    imagekmeek19:
    imageShamlet123:

    Whoever this is, she is a serious twatwaffle. DH & I got married in a Catholic church even though I have always struggled with my faith.

    I'd say that I am a casual Catholic, but that being said, DS is still getting baptized.

    Sorry to be so sappy, but witnessing the birth of my child had made me a believer in miracles for one. And second, as far as protecting DS's soul, I am of the philosophy that it's better safe than sorry.

    Question - does this person even have kids? Just curious.

    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    This is going to be the next clicky poll this afternoon. Have you ever slept with a girl? Hah someone will start it.

    Dunzo.

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    This might make me sound like a very silly Catholic, but part of the reason I had J baptized was because the church still technically holds that unbaptized people go to limbo rather than heaven when they die. I don't really believe it, but if (God forbid) the unthinkable happened to J, I'd feel terrible if he was unbaptized. That may mean I'm crazy.

    Not at all a "silly Catholic" in my opinion. I was terrified that something would happen to G before we got him baptized, and our church doesn't hold to that idea.

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  • As an atheist it would never enter my mind to baptize my kids. As atheists my parents didn't baptize me and their parents didn't baptize them. So I don't understand baptism or when or how it should happen but I would never feel the need to comment negatively on your FB about it.
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    We don't believe in god, so clearly we aren't baptizing. It's overused but it's your kid, do what you want.
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    imageBeanie_mrt:
    We don't believe in god, so clearly we aren't baptizing. It's overused but it's your kid, do what you want.
    This for me too!

    What's overused? The saying or baptism in general? Not judgy, just curious.

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    imageLibby1978:
    imageBeanie_mrt:
    We don't believe in god, so clearly we aren't baptizing. It's overused but it's your kid, do what you want.
    This for me too!

    What's overused? The saying or baptism in general? Not judgy, just curious.

    I'm pretty sure she meant the saying "it's your kid, do what you want."
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  • No baptism. We're atheists. We had a fake christening for my eighty-year-old great aunt. She's a nun and she was fretting so my mother told a white lie. 
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    No baptism. We're atheists. We had a fake christening for my eighty-year-old great aunt. She's a nun and she was fretting so my mother told a white lie. 

    How do you have a "fake christening?"

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    We are Catholic.  I am pretty religious (as is DH).  In fact, I teach at a Catholic school.

    DD was baptized at a very young age, two months.  To me, baptism is about original sin and promising to raise DD to know God.

    When she is older, she can decided if she wants to be confirmed.  That is the real decision as to what you are going to do with your religious life.

    DH was not baptized as a child and had to receive 3 sacraments before his 4th (our marriage).  Needless to say, he was pretty annoyed that his mom never had him baptized or had him make his Communion. 

  • I'm not going to have DD baptized, SO and I are not religious. But I don't care if others do.

     

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    No.She's a lesbian, actually the first girl I've ever slept with.

    Yeah... That seems appropriate for a religion post.

    Maybe she's just jealous.
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    We're not baptising the girls because A) We don't have a church right now and B)We want them to be able to make their own decisions about religion later in life.  So with B I'm kind of like your FB friend, but not as douchy. 

    This is us too.  H and I are both agnostic.  MIL got on us a little bit about not baptizing.  She told H that we were forcing our beliefs on our poor baby.  He asked her to explain what baptism is then :)  If R wants to be a Buddhist or a Catholic or a Wiccan, that is fabulous.  Whatever he finds in his heart to believe. Kind of like Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.  But I would never make some snarky comment on someone's FB about their decision to baptize or not.  Not my place, just as it isn't someone else's place to judge my decision not to baptize.  Not cool, FB friend.

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