Oh goodness, this might be going a bit too far.... — The Bump
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Oh goodness, this might be going a bit too far....

My acupuncturist told me today that our last 3 sessions, she really feels like we have my kidney-adrenal stuff under control (also evidenced by bloodwork), and that my liver qi seems to be doing much better, too (as evidenced by my mood and other things), but now what seems to be holding me back is gut issues. And it's TMI to tell you exactly why I think she's dead on.

She wants me to start some new herbs (fine). And get back on my healthier diet of veggies, fruits, and whole grains that I'd been on forever, but occasionally slip off, like the last month or so when I've been really busy in evenings with music (of course, fine). Then she said, she's getting a read that I have a dairy and soy issue. So she wants me to try to go a month on the herbs and cut.out.dairy.AND.soy.

OMG, are you kidding? A day without cheese, milk, or yogurt is a day without sunshine for me!  And when I have intentionally cut out dairy over my own suspicions about this, what have I replaced it with? Tofu and soy milk!  So here we go. I'm going to give myself until Tuesday (when the herbs come in) to try to get myself down to one or two dairy/soy a day and see what happens.  

The sad thing is that I suspect she may be right.  Today she worked extra on gut issues and I already feel better. I hope I'm not *that* susceptible to suggestion....

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  • Cutting out soy and dairy is incredibly hard.  I had to do that with Charlie b/c he was allergic to everything as a baby.  Everything has milk or soy in it! 

    I wish you the best as you try but suggest maybe you want to do a little research before jumping in and maybe make a trip to whole foods b/c I know they offer special dairy free tours of their store.

     Good luck to you!

  • That would be very brave and bold of you.  I always trust my gut, so I say give it a whirl.  Good luck!
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  • I have a dairy, soy, egg, and gluten/wheat intolerance. I have been living allergen-free for about 2 years now. It's hard. Really hard. But it's worth it because it will make you feel so much better.

    If you can tolerate them, you can try vanilla rice milk, almond milk, or coconut milk. Almond milk actually tastes really really good (but can be hard on the gut - I can't have it). As far as the cheese goes, I can't really help you out there - there's just no good replacement :(. You may find that goat cheese doesn't bother you or that you can tolerate very old, dry cheeses (like parmesan).

    Good luck!

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    May 17: IUI #2 = BFN
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    Sep 17: IUI #5 = Cancelled due to overstimulation (10+ follies)
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    Feb 18: FET #1 (medicated) = BFN
    Mar 18: FET #2 (natural cycle) = CP (beta 1: 54; beta 2: 0)
    Apr 18: FET #3 (natural cycle) = cancelled due to missed ovulation
    Apr 18: FET #3 (natural cycle) = BFP! Beta 1: 201  Beta 2: 585 Beta 3: 3254 Beta 4: 9715 U/S 19May - one bean measuring on track with a HB of 125! EDD: 07Jan2019
  • It is hard, but doable.  I have been lactose intolerant for about 12 years now.  So going from drinking milk and eating pizza and ice cream all the time to stopping all that cold turkey was tough.  I now drink lactose free milk, have lactose free/soy ice cream once in a while, and try to stay away from stuff made with cheese/cream (or I pay for it later). 

    I say try it and see how you do.  Like Kelly said, go to Whole Foods (even Trader Joe's has some stuff).  You can do it!  Wishing you the best of luck.

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  • That would be so hard for me!!  I am a Milk-oholic! 
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  • image AmandaMacD:
    That would be very brave and bold of you.  I always trust my gut, so I say give it a whirl.  Good luck!

    This! I am sure there are plenty of substitutions, right?

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    image AmandaMacD:
    That would be very brave and bold of you.  I always trust my gut, so I say give it a whirl.  Good luck!

    This! I am sure there are plenty of substitutions, right?

    I agree!!
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  • Good luck!  I had to give up milk and soy when B. was a baby and I couldn't believe how many things had soy in it.  I can't remember now if I felt better or not. 
    Trying to conceive #2 since Oct. 2008 BFP 6/14/11, 7/5/11 - Gestational Sac measured 7 weeks 6 days, Baby measured 5 weeks 6 days, No Heartbeat, 7/11/11 - Missed Miscarriage confirmed, 7/18/11 - D&C
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